WEBVTT - UNPACKED REALITY - AUSTRALIAN SURVIVOR - RIANNA 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:03.640 TV reload the podcast last week. 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:06.640 They Hey guys, welcome back to TV Riloud. Thank you 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:09.760 for clicking and downloading. On today's episode with Rhianna, the 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:13.680 now seventh place contestant from this year's Australian Survivor, which 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:16.239 is now on Network ten, I will be talking about 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:19.240 Rihanna's time and Samoa, and of course what she thinks 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:21.840 now that the smoke has well and truly been snuffed 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:25.360 out on her torch. Australian Survivor Titans Versus Rebels is 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:28.120 a showdown that pits the winners against the underdogs and 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:31.080 the big wigs against the battlers, with each player competing 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:31.800 for the grand. 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:33.360 Prize of half a million dollars. 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:37.360 Rihanna's close friendship with her primary ally Kirby, stood at 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:40.479 the core of her game in Titans Versus Rebels. Despite 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:43.760 a skittishness that caused her to reneg on several plans 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:46.239 at the last minute, Rihanna was usually kept in the 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:49.920 loop on strategic plans and leveraged her strong physical game 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:53.440 to solidify a place in the end game. However, after 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:56.880 Alex's impassionate speech, blew up Kirby and Rihanna's game at 0:00:56.880 --> 0:01:00.520 the previous night's tribal council. A desperate Kirby's vicar in 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:04.520 the subsequent immunity challenge left Rihanna firmly on the crosshairs, 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.080 seeking to cut Kirby off at the knees. The tribe 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:10.200 managed to vote Rihanna out at the seventh place. We 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:12.959 will unpack the fact that Kirby was not suspected to 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:16.440 be involved with Raymond's advantage and why people didn't question 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:20.080 the immunity necklace being swapped in that tribal council. Rihanna 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:22.959 will share the order she would like to have eliminated 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:26.240 the remaining players, which is pretty juicy. I will ask 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.960 about Kirby and Ferris's relationship in Samoa and question if 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:33.679 Kirby really needs to win every immunity challenge until the 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.720 final jury council. Plus, we will find out what Rihanna 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:39.319 thinks about flying under the radar when it comes to 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:41.600 Survivor and if there was any other way that she 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.560 could have saved herself in the last twenty four hours. 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:47.400 There's actually so much to unpack with Rihanna, and she 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:49.920 is so much fun to talk to. So guys, sit 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:52.360 back and relax as we dive just that little bit 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.880 deeper into the world of Australian survivor. 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:57.200 How are Yourie? Are you all right? 0:01:57.560 --> 0:01:58.520 I good, Thank you. 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:01.600 I've actually come off night and I'm running a bit 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:05.000 of a high at the moment, so just rolling into 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.000 today getting all the lovely feedback. 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:08.080 It's like so nice. 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:10.800 Were there any surprises were you surprised in watching your 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:11.760 last episode? 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:15.760 Well, literally, only that bit conversation between Kirby and Ferris 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:19.160 that when Kirby like starts to be like die straight 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:21.120 so put my name out there. 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:23.960 I did know, like she had warned me about it, but. 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.240 I obviously didn't know about it in the show, so 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:29.560 that that time of the episode, I was like, ooh, 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:30.119 a little. 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:33.200 Bit spicy, But yeah, I love last night's episode. It 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:33.560 was great. 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:35.760 Well, it kind of annoyed me a little bit as well, 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:38.560 for you, because I was thinking to myself, She's saying 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:40.680 to Ferris that she wants the best of the best 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:42.320 to be there at the end for her to go 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:42.960 up against. 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.400 But wouldn't you be part of the best of the best. 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:46.960 Shouldn't she be talking about you? 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.520 Yeah, It's very interesting because then later when they're on 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:52.480 the beach, they talk about who Kirby wants to be 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:55.359 at the end with, and she says Ferris, myself and Kitty. 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.320 So it's a very interesting when you say conversations and 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:02.760 what you actually are meaning. But I honestly do believe 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.160 she wanted me to be there at the end with her, 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:07.840 and unfortunately the other guys got to meet first. 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:10.640 It's one of those shows, though, where you're not actually 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.200 able to know because, like you know, there's so many 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.799 lies being said all the time. You can't take anything 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.520 to heart because you don't know if they're just blagging someone, 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:18.840 you know. 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:21.880 I found this season particular. I don't know if you 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:23.840 guys found it, but I found like we were just 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:25.160 swapping so many times. 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:26.680 I felt like I was in a washing machine. I 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:27.919 was like, who are we trusting today? 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.320 And they're like, we're over here, we're back over there, 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:32.200 and I was just like, I felt a little bit 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:34.200 like there was no real loyalties. 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.440 It was like on the day, we are trusting you. 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:38.360 And we're like, that's where it's going, and then tomorrow's 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:39.360 completely different story. 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.600 So you can say whatever you want Tomorrow's New Day. 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.520 Well, you're always going to be known as a challenge beast, 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:48.080 and JLP did highlight that, but I just wanted to know, 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.680 is that enough? Were you conscious of trying to balance 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:54.720 out your social game with being a challenge based Like 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:56.440 how are you trying to navigate that? 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:59.920 Very interesting man, because obviously I'm so new to this game. 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:00.880 I don't really I'm not like. 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:03.520 A super fan like Eileen and Eden that love this 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:05.360 game so much. I know the ins and outs. I've 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:08.120 come in like pretty much country girl, come in, give 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:10.960 it my best, go love challenges. That's where I knew 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:13.760 my strengths would hopefully be, and I'm really happy to 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:14.920 show how strong I was. 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:16.680 And I was like, that's but obviously you can't just. 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.279 Win off challenges, like you need to have some sort 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:22.400 of social game or something, and it's hard to see 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:25.080 in this I guess, but like, I obviously do have 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.679 social game to get me to where I was. Obviously 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.080 I've made a ride and die with Kirby that doesn't 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.599 happen for no reason. And then obviously I was on 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:36.760 the after Tribes. Well I got handed a horrendous deal, 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.760 like I have no friends, really, I have all titans 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:41.320 and literally I have to fight. 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:42.520 My way to get back to Merge. 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:44.440 Like I don't even know how people know how hard 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:46.960 that was and how many conversations I had. I have 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:49.039 to wake up every morning that who do I have 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:50.200 to talk to you today? And like who do I 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:52.440 need to like get on side and build some sort 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:55.960 of trust and loyalty. And it's all those small conversations 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.520 behind the scenes that builds that to that so that 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:00.480 gets you through to the next state. And I got 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:02.560 to Merge, and I was like tough with that because 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:05.080 I was like, heck that was rough, Like I would 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:08.160 be on the bottom of the ages. And then I 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:10.159 come through to Merge and I was like, I finally 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:11.120 I have an idol and. 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:12.800 Then now I'm going to use immunity necklace and I 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:13.839 was like, holy hecker. 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:16.240 I was like, what now, I feel like I'm like 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:20.320 somehow actually doing like it is always actually okay. And 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:22.920 I was like very like relief for once in my 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:24.520 life instead of stressing every day. 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.080 So it is interesting because like in some ways you 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:29.479 were acquired a player. I wondered whether or not it 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:31.960 was conscious or whether it's what we got to see 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:35.520 because you did allow maybe some of the noisier players 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:38.040 to sort of eliminate themselves in a way whilst you 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:40.360 sort of bit your tongue. Is that how it played 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:41.760 out on the beach of Samoa. 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:45.480 I definitely was playing that under the radar card definitely 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:47.640 the start off with well, I was definitely trying to 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:49.920 until I became like Kirby's Ride and Die and then 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.080 I just had a target on my back anyway, just 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:55.120 to be her like right hand man. But that was 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.000 kind of where I was going. And do you know, 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:01.000 it's so funny. Some of the other contestants were like, hey, guys, 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.360 did you know he was good at challenges like before merch? 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.320 So I was just like that was like they actually 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:08.720 thought I was just like this skinny little girl that 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:11.400 like was a bit uncoordinated, I think, but I'm I'm 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:12.039 not really sure. 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:14.080 That was like, nah, that really snuck up on us. 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:16.560 So it was very interesting a perspectives of like how 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:19.640 people they were got snuck up by like my game 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:21.560 and they were like, Wow, she's actually just come out 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:23.400 of nowhere here and we're actually a little bit and 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:24.120 we're scared. 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.640 Well, going back a few episodes, why did Kirby give 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:31.640 you her immunity necklace, and why didn't everyone suspect that 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:34.839 she must have been in on Raymond's advantage twist? 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:36.240 Very interesting, isn't it? 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:40.240 So Raymond asked for that boy every day would tell 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:41.200 me where you going home? 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:43.560 He loved it. He's like, ray you played too hard 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:45.280 too early. You're too much of. 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:47.920 A threat, like winning the challenges, and like he would 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:49.320 just say it to me all the time. And I 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.120 was just like, he wouldn't say it to Kirby, but 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:52.840 he loves her to me and it maybe it was 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:53.200 his game. 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:54.560 He loves to stir me up. 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:57.880 But coming into that, I said to it because that 0:06:58.480 --> 0:06:59.760 day Raymond came up to me. It's like if I 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:01.760 hadn't my choice, I would vote you out tonight. And 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:03.560 then I said to Kirby, are you sure he's putting 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.640 hilarious name down? Because I will tell you that boy is. 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.400 I'm on his hit list. And I am a little 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:11.920 bit nervous that how cool would this plan be? We 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.600 will vote I vote for Raymond in his plan and 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:16.360 then he votes me out. I was like, I would 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:19.840 be like Raymond, that is very good, like touche but ouch. 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:24.080 So I said to Kirby, because Raymond adores Kirby like 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:26.480 he was never going to vote her out, so she 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:30.080 felt real safe. So then we're like, can we swap 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:32.960 necklace over? And do you Well, I must admit we 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:37.480 did that so stealthily. Not one person notice, Like I 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:39.840 wish you could see the full time laps of like 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.080 us doing that, because it was over a few stages 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:45.240 of like like slowly like pretending to like itch my 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:46.200 head or whatever. 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.040 And then Jail He's like, you've got. 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.080 The necklace and and I was like, oh, jail me, 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:53.400 I've just done that, so sneaking. 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:56.840 Needs to have a conversation about it. 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.240 And then I was like look at Kerby, like, oh, 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.800 I've caught us. But luckily no one really like at 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:05.280 that moment. They could have really taken advantage of that 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:07.320 and been like why are they doing this? Like and 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.640 then Ferris could have been like hm, but they could have. 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:11.560 It could have been a whole different trible and like 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.880 caused a bit of like issues, but it didn't, thank god. 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.720 And then actually Raymond's pan came off and super happy 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:19.520 for him because it was like an epic like when 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.760 in Survivor do you see that like, it is like 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:23.960 a pretty epic pink to get a whole tribe. 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:24.280 To vote for you. 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:26.520 It is crazy, and I think people are going to 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:28.440 be talking about that as one of the biggest moves 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:31.320 of this season. Bonkers it was, But I mean, I 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.960 just thought, considering that Ferris and Kirby were trying to 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:37.360 hide themselves from knowing anything about what Raymond had done, 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:40.640 That's where it was interesting to me that not even 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.240 Mark was going to question that there was something else 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:44.160 at play going on. 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.520 And I think it's because my name gets pretty much 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.600 thrown out all the time that people just think that 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.360 I might try to protect myself because I reckon now 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:55.360 watching this back, I feel like nearly every trouble that 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:57.839 I'm at, it's my name, like getting put out every night. 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:01.280 And I was like, come on, bus, I thought, I kind. 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:02.520 Of feel like they eliminated you. 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:04.640 And the reason why they eliminated you was they were 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.480 literally just trying to take the legs out from underneath Kirby. 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:08.360 I think they. 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:12.200 Thought you're her ride or die, you're her right hand man, 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:15.200 and you know they're not ready to go for Kirby yet, 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.000 so they're just going to take away some of her power. 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:19.960 I think that's what people were thinking. 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:23.240 Yeah, they definitely did think that from the pretty much 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:25.880 before trub swap. That's where I got my target and 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:28.600 it just went from there. But then and then afterwards, 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.320 it just the challenges. They literally like just didn't see 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:35.120 me as this challenge Beast and which I'm very grateful. 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:37.200 For the name, but it also gives you a target 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:37.720 on your back. 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:40.840 But I'm so proud of those challenges, like literally mentally 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:44.560 physically getting through someone then not like so gnally and yeah, 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:46.560 super proud of like my mental capasity. 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:48.720 Now that we kind of know this about being a 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:50.839 challenge Beast, just do you think that Kirby's going to 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.360 have to win every challenge from now on because if 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.760 she picks up this Challenge Beast title, people going to 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.360 boot her before we get to the final Trouble Council. 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.240 Yeah, she's like she's in a bit of strife. I 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.520 think like she's going to have to win or she's 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.400 going to have to try and meant that with Ferris 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:11.000 to say, getting the two strongest people to the end, 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:12.800 So you kind of mean the best kind of that 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:14.920 she made that notion on the beach for them to 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:18.680 do that, but it's a risk on anyone's move, so like, yeah, 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:20.080 we'll have to see how it all pans out, but 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:21.400 I really hope she wins them all. 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.480 I want to ask you about Alex. I mean, it 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.199 is the episode before you left, but he kind of 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:28.679 looked like he was digging his grave in that final 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:31.679 tribal council. For him, it was like a kamikaze dive. 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:33.800 Why why did you do that? Like it kind of 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:35.800 felt like he blew up his game. But is that 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:37.640 because he knew there was nothing he could do and 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.199 he just was just trying to create some noise and 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:43.160 make it difficult for Kirby and a few others. 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.080 Oh poor Alex. I love Alex. 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:48.360 I think I think he probably read the room at 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:49.800 you pretty well in the sense that he knew he 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:50.320 was going home. 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:51.520 He just didn't probably. 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.880 Know how to exactly plan a way of getting out, 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:56.840 And I think he just went down swinging be cause 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.080 I'm I remember on the beach, we'd made up that 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.600 fake plan to vote Raymond and Ferris like a split 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:03.200 vote from the SPA, which. 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:06.600 Was absolute load of bolocks. But he came to us 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:10.600 three who you voted for? Raymond yep, and he's like, 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:11.600 you're v Raymond. 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:13.440 I was like, oh, so, I think he just like 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:15.679 knew that we were voting, Like he just here it 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:16.360 is like Riatto. 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:17.640 Trust. 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:20.520 So then obviously, instead of probably thinking a way of 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.439 like maybe spinning it a different way to kind of 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:25.160 keep him in, he just yeah, it was like, do 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:27.440 you know what, I think everyone's voting for me, I'm 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:29.080 just going to take out Kirby and do you know what, 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.200 I'm just going to go down and tell say whatever 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:32.920 I can to try and put a target on her 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:36.120 back and try and direct the focus on her instead 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:39.400 of him. But obviously he still went and it actually 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:41.800 did put some heat on Kirby. So yeah, so I 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:43.679 guess it kind of worked fifty to fifty for him. 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:45.640 It did kind of work out. I mean, he's leaving 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:47.640 the game and he just made it difficult for other people. 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:50.400 But I guess at this point, you know, there's less players, 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:53.920 there's more fatigue, you know, partial insanity. Have you all 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:57.840 become accustomed to your surroundings of the fog that is 0:11:57.920 --> 0:11:59.800 survivor at this point of the game, have you all 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:00.720 lost your mind? 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:03.760 I feel like I was losing my mind a little bit, 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.280 like I was almost like look at the Jurubula. 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:07.720 Like and all the people coming in, I'm like, man, 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:09.040 they look good and they. 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:11.480 Look fresh, and I'm like I'm over here just being 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:13.480 like I'm just trying to survive out here, like I 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:16.240 hadn't eaten for so long, and like, thank god Alex 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:18.080 took me on that spa or you'll be seeing a 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.240 skeleton exit this game because there. 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.760 Wasn't much left to me. Oh okay, so. 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.040 And like it's just so hard, like without the food 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.600 and like you don't sleep, and then it just gets 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:31.319 so much more intense, like all the mind gave your brain. 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:33.040 And I know lots of the time people look like 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:34.679 I've got no clue, but I feel that my brains 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.600 are like like try to listen to every conversation and 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.080 put it together, and yeah, it gets exhausting. 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:41.120 You just never stop. 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.240 And I was thinking about this the other day, but 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.080 I literally when I came out of the game, I 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:48.440 still had this paranoida for a good week, Like I 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:50.439 would dream about people voting me out, and then I 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:52.280 would be in my real life and I'd think people 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.760 were like trying to still scam against me and I 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:56.640 was not even in game anymore. This is how bad 0:12:56.679 --> 0:13:00.600 this social experiment like absolutely transforms your brain so much, 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:02.560 like for a week, I'll be like someone was doing 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:04.160 something in the kitchen and talk to someone else. 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:05.160 Are you talking about me? 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.000 Or like are you are a time for some more therapy. 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:10.320 Well, it's kind of funny that you mentioned that, because 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.200 like I did Big Brother ten years ago, and everyone 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:16.000 played that game like Big Brother, and I played it 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:18.920 like Survivor because I'm a big Survivor fan. So I 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.520 was in that show for four months, and so then 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:25.520 it took years to go out socially and not think 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:28.480 to myself, I like all of you guys, but which 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:30.400 order am I going to get rid of you? 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:34.640 I think it's so fascinating, like just these whole reality 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:37.080 TV and how we get conformed into this space and 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:40.640 you literally have to adapt and change and like everything changes. 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:42.680 It's not like the real world, Like people watch the 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:45.040 TV from home, they're like you fling it, but like 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:48.960 in the game, you're literally it's so different. It's wild, 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.320 like not nothing like I thought it would be. The 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:55.480 psychological game. Literally it nearly like got me good, and 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:57.760 I feel like I'm pretty strong but I was like, oh, 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:01.040 this is hard getting stabbed left right in my back, Like, 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:02.120 oh man, if. 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:06.000 You could choose the order of people being eliminated, that's left, 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:07.000 what's your order? 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.360 Can you try and give that to me? 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:11.839 Obviously, Mark? I don't know how many times I put 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:13.240 Mark's name down for Mark. 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:14.320 I don't know if you read this. 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:16.520 Did you read the comment on social media yesterday where 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.480 it was like re left doing what she's always doing, 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:20.920 and that is putting a vote on Mark. 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:23.480 Yeah, I've left the game the way I started. 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.160 I think Mark is an incredible player, but obviously I 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:28.480 just think it was like underestimated, Like how do people 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:29.560 not see how good he is? 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:31.760 Like he's doing great? And I was like, yeah, so. 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:36.280 It would be Mark, Caroline and then Kitty and I 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.800 would like to see the two big boys fight it out. 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:40.040 That's what I would probably do. 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:42.080 Okay, but where does Raymond fall into that? 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:42.640 Oh? 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:45.680 Sorry, Raymond, Sorry Raymond? Oh my god, I got I 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.520 put Raymond after Caroline and then okay, kid. 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.840 I guess the question that it would be that I 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:53.760 need to ask you at this point is is there 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.120 anything you could have done? Because I actually didn't think 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:57.960 there was I've kind of felt like you got backed 0:14:57.960 --> 0:14:59.760 into a corner. Is there any way that you could 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:02.680 have tried had to pull in any other relationships On 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:07.000 that final day in Samoa. 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:07.920 I think I was toast. 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.560 I just don't think no one, not no one wanted 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:14.600 to work with me because I obviously they were scared 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:17.240 if they did, and there was a challenge, they all 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:19.320 knew they couldn't beat me, so they were all just 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:23.240 like terrified. So the only other option you can try 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.000 and vote out would obviously be Fairest because Kirby had 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.320 our necklace, and just no one. I just don't think 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.920 anyone wanted to keep me and Kirby in Like that's just. 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:33.880 Like like while we do that, that seems just like ridiculous. 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:37.480 So I'm like the easiest pick, and yeah, they've I 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.400 think if I was in the same situation, I would 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:42.360 have voted myself out like they probably needed me to go. 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.560 So I always say break out the vegi mind because 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:46.680 the toast is ready. 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:48.160 I was absolutely toast. 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:50.800 I had nothing, I had no avenues to even weezer 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:53.760 my way in anything. So when that challenge was done, 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:55.560 Kirby one, I was like. 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.880 Well that was it. That's my game done. 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.440 What was it like watching Kirby and Ferris? 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:04.760 Because we're watching this on television and it is iconic, 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:08.840 people are going to talk about the dynamics between their friendship, relationship, 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:11.920 their rivalry, however you want to call it. What's it 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.280 like when you're living with them day in and day out. 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:17.320 What's going on with those two? I don't think it's 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:21.160 sexual tension, but there's definitely some interesting things happening in 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:22.000 the minutia. 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:25.200 They are like brother and sister, I would say, but 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:28.840