WEBVTT - JOHN & CHRISTINA UNPACK THEIR MASTERCHEF EXPERIENCE 

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<v Speaker 1>and streaming services today. On the podcast, I have two

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<v Speaker 1>of Channel ten's Mastership for Australia favorites. It's John and Christina.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes a lot of courage to come back on

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<v Speaker 1>reality TV after you've already had your first serve, but

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<v Speaker 1>these two took the plunge and returned to the kitchen

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<v Speaker 1>with honesty and integrity, which I think Australia really appreciated.

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<v Speaker 1>They are the first two favorites to exit the competition,

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<v Speaker 1>but as you will find from our chat today, they

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<v Speaker 1>have walked away with a greater perspective on their cooking

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<v Speaker 1>and new missions. In their future endeavors. We will talk

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<v Speaker 1>about their experiences, their highs and lows, what Christina thought

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<v Speaker 1>of the new host compared to the old and if

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<v Speaker 1>she's been in touch with those former judges. John will

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<v Speaker 1>talk about why he said yes to returning and what

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<v Speaker 1>Julie Goodwin said to him after his elimination. There are

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<v Speaker 1>a few audio issues along the way today, but I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you can bear with that, as there were some

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<v Speaker 1>great insights from both contestants. However, let's get started with

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<v Speaker 1>today's guests. I'd like to welcome John and Christina to

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload.

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<v Speaker 2>They might give you sixty minutes to cook. Really you're

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<v Speaker 2>not standing at your bene for sixty minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Musta Sheff has produced some of the biggest names in food.

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<v Speaker 3>Doing season seven, it was very it was very difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>For the first time ever. It's funds versus favorites.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to know about the story, they want to

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<v Speaker 2>know about your heritage.

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<v Speaker 1>Season seven, We've got job.

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<v Speaker 3>If you didn't have a pin, maybe he was the

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<v Speaker 3>one that was going to leave the competition.

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<v Speaker 1>And season five, Christina.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that talking about things so important.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, John, how are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh good? Thank you yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually doing really well. And congratulations on returning to

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<v Speaker 1>Master Shepper, Australia. I feel like you committed to this

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<v Speaker 1>experience physically and emotionally. Were you were You're almost relieved

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<v Speaker 1>when it came to and end last night.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I'll be telling people I was actually a

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<v Speaker 3>half half about it. Half of me wanted to say

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<v Speaker 3>but the other half just wanted to get out of

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<v Speaker 3>that pressure cooker situation. Cooking in that kitchen it's always

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<v Speaker 3>so tough because, like I mean, realistically, who does a

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<v Speaker 3>dish in sixty minutes or in thirty minutes? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>when you cook, you you want to try and pour

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<v Speaker 3>everything into all your love to it and take time

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<v Speaker 3>to sort of nurture that dish and it's something great.

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<v Speaker 3>But in that kitchen, you put that aside and basically

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<v Speaker 3>just rely on your skills and your technique to put

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<v Speaker 3>up a really good dish.

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<v Speaker 1>When the producers called and asked you to return, what

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<v Speaker 1>was that process like for you?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when I get the call, I thought, oh should

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<v Speaker 3>I do this? I was a bit hesitant. I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>is it a good idea to come back? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm happy with what I'm doing now. I still love cooking.

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<v Speaker 3>That's something that would never sort of go away. But

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<v Speaker 3>at that time, I was actually I started a week

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<v Speaker 3>business with my partner. So we're doing human hair wigs

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<v Speaker 3>and it's all custom made, and we do weeks that

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<v Speaker 3>actually fit someone's head rather than relying on say like

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<v Speaker 3>an online which doesn't really fit, like, we'll fit in

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<v Speaker 3>your head, but it's not your the capsize. But that

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<v Speaker 3>was something that we really loved and enjoyed doing because

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<v Speaker 3>we got so much from our clients just the positive

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<v Speaker 3>feedback of what that was giving them. For example, we've

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<v Speaker 3>had a lot of alopecia patients that come to us

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<v Speaker 3>that get the wigs and it's just amazing when they

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<v Speaker 3>put it on, it's like they've gotten their confidence back.

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<v Speaker 3>And to me, that was our goal doing that business,

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<v Speaker 3>and I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess the hesitation, you know, wasn't really there

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<v Speaker 1>because you were worried about how your career would be

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<v Speaker 1>affected in the kitchen because you were already onto bigger

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<v Speaker 1>and better things.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So I had that business and I had to

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<v Speaker 3>really rethink, do I want to leave this behind and

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<v Speaker 3>put that aside and leave all our clients on a

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<v Speaker 3>limbo or go back to master chef and continue on

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<v Speaker 3>with my passion for food. It was definitely a hard

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<v Speaker 3>decision to do because I knew the pressure going into

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<v Speaker 3>the Master Chef kitchen, like I mean, doing season seven,

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<v Speaker 3>it was very It was very difficult, but at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time, I actually enjoyed my time in that kitchen.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I did decide to come back, I thought, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I should give this another go. And when

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<v Speaker 3>they were when they called me, they said, oh, you're

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<v Speaker 3>coming back because people remember you from the white Chocolate valute,

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<v Speaker 3>and that actually triggered something in me, and I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>hang on a sec that shouldn't be what I was

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<v Speaker 3>remembered for, because that's one small part of what I

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<v Speaker 3>did on the show. That shouldn't be what will remember

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<v Speaker 3>me for. So I came on the show to sort

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<v Speaker 3>of show people that that doesn't define who I am

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<v Speaker 3>as a cook. So to me, coming back was my

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<v Speaker 3>sort of redemption to show no, I can work in

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<v Speaker 3>the team environment. Watching back on season seven, I had

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<v Speaker 3>so many amazing team challenges throughout that season, meaning Lasmoba

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<v Speaker 3>Tourist's first team challenge. I was a team leader for that. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>there were so many others that peterfull has sort of

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<v Speaker 3>put back and then had the white chocolate vlute at

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<v Speaker 3>the front, so I thought, no, we need to bury

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<v Speaker 3>that white chocolate lute and just you know, move on.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. Being the first fan favorite to leave, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>does that change the way your relationship is with the show? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>is that changing the way that you think about Master Chef? Mentally?

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<v Speaker 3>No, not at all, Like I mean to me, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a TV show. They needed to bring, you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>best of the best in the competition and I thought, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>just to be picked to be as a favorite to

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<v Speaker 3>come back to the show was you know that it

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<v Speaker 3>itself was I was just thankful for.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely what I mean, this is a really good question

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you. What has Mastership Australia taught you the

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<v Speaker 1>most over the years? You know, looking back at season

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<v Speaker 1>seven and looking at this experience, now, what is the

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<v Speaker 1>show taught you as a person?

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<v Speaker 3>I guess well, what I've taken away from it is

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<v Speaker 3>basically the bond that I've created with all the contestants.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean, we all came in with one single

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<v Speaker 3>with the goal of basically winning the competition, but at

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<v Speaker 3>the same time, we all had the same passion for

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<v Speaker 3>food and learning. With what they've gone through after the competition,

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<v Speaker 3>with the favorites. I've learned so much. I've learned so

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<v Speaker 3>much from Mindy who loves Australian natives, and I'm actually

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<v Speaker 3>going to start incorporating Australian natives the chocolates that I'm relaunching.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing a bean to our chocolate business that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to highly relaunch at the end of the year

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<v Speaker 3>and introduce Australian natives into a sort of flavor profiles

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<v Speaker 3>in that chocolate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well do you think that Do you think that

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<v Speaker 1>Master Chef has been has the best display of diversity

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<v Speaker 1>in reality television here in Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, definitely. I think the good thing about Australia food

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<v Speaker 3>wise is we do have all these cultures that contribute

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<v Speaker 3>to our food scene, and I think that's what's unique

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<v Speaker 3>about Australia compared to other countries that we have, like

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<v Speaker 3>it's a melting pot of different cultures and we create

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<v Speaker 3>some of the most amazing food in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I like the cultural and world diversity that comes with,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the brilliant casting of this show, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think End of Old Shine Australia does a very good

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<v Speaker 1>job with that. But do you think that that is

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<v Speaker 1>because international cuisine leaves no excuse but to have more

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<v Speaker 1>multicultural represents on this show.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely. I think the food that we actually showcase

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<v Speaker 3>in Australia when you ask someone, oh, what is austrain food? Like,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we don't really have our own sort of identity.

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<v Speaker 3>So we've had to actually create our own identity to

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<v Speaker 3>be to be Australian. And that's with all our cultures

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<v Speaker 3>being brought in. And I think when I was in

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<v Speaker 3>this season and talking to Mindy, I think what's important

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<v Speaker 3>now is to sort of go into the direction of

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<v Speaker 3>coming back and respecting the land that we actually standing

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<v Speaker 3>on and sort of showcasing those Australian natives and incorporating

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<v Speaker 3>those into all our different cultures to create an identity

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<v Speaker 3>that is Australian.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. I think you said that's so well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about last night's episode, those pins were being used left,

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<v Speaker 1>right and center. You know if there were no immunity pins,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that someone else may have gone home

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<v Speaker 1>last night?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, whenever I cook, I'm also just sort of focused

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<v Speaker 3>on my on my food, and I don't see what's

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<v Speaker 3>going on around me. But watching last night's episode, there

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<v Speaker 3>were a few cooks that weren't really hitting the spot.

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<v Speaker 3>I was actually surprised with Tommy facing his broth. It

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<v Speaker 3>was like he wasn't getting much flavor and he wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>getting the right sort of punches that he wanted in

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<v Speaker 3>his dish. And he's an amazing cook, and that really

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<v Speaker 3>surprised me because, like, I mean, an egg challenge that

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<v Speaker 3>he really threw him off. And I guess having a

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<v Speaker 3>community pin in the back of his mind maybe played

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<v Speaker 3>a big part in the way he thought about his dish.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe he was just thinking, Oh, should I use this

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<v Speaker 3>or should I just keep cooking. I think that hindered

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<v Speaker 3>his ability to cook something amazing. And maybe if he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have the pin, maybe it would have been a

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<v Speaker 3>different story. But if he didn't have a pin, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>he was the one that was gonna leave the competition.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's kind of how I saw it as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I was shocked. John. I think the funniest

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<v Speaker 1>moment for me as a viewer last night was that

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<v Speaker 1>I think I had just as much sweat on my

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<v Speaker 1>forehead as you did as you were waiting for the

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<v Speaker 1>whites to thicken. And I was like, yeah, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>how is. I was patting my own head down as

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<v Speaker 1>a viewer, going, oh my god. You know so, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just such a stress stressful situation you know

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<v Speaker 1>to be And I still think you handled it so well.

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<v Speaker 3>I was down to my last three eggs and I

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<v Speaker 3>thought this needs to whip up because and I even

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<v Speaker 3>made sure everything was clean. I requested for new equipment

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<v Speaker 3>to actually whip up the egg whites, and I thought

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<v Speaker 3>this is gonna work because I know if you get

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<v Speaker 3>one little bit of a speck of oil or anything

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<v Speaker 3>anything foreign into that egg white, it's not going to

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<v Speaker 3>whip up. And that's what happened in yesterday's challenge. It

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't whipping up, and I had no eggs left, so

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<v Speaker 3>quick thinking, I thought, I'm just going to do chantilla

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<v Speaker 3>cream and put it on top. When it actually worked.

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<v Speaker 3>I've tasted it. The chantilla cream actually added a luxurious

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<v Speaker 3>element into it because lemon tart is quite sweet and

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<v Speaker 3>adding to it sort of added that extra layer of sweetness.

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<v Speaker 3>But putting the chantilly cream it actually balanced the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So I thought I'm probably safe doing this. But being

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<v Speaker 3>an next challenge, the judges were expecting him around on top.

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<v Speaker 3>To cap it off, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Have to ask about this son in law, which was

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<v Speaker 1>the first dish that you cooked. You know, I'd never

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<v Speaker 1>heard of, you know, a son in law before, so

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know, like, where does that name come from.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's got something to deal with a son

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<v Speaker 3>in law impressing their mother in law that they can

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<v Speaker 3>actually cook, like a dish that they sort of cooked

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<v Speaker 3>to impress them that sort of that can marry their

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<v Speaker 3>future wife. That's the story of the son in law.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's it's definitely a beautiful dish. It's something that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm definitely challenging to cook because you know, you don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to overcook that egg. And I guess in that

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<v Speaker 3>challenge yesterday I've I'm there, made myself in the timing

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<v Speaker 3>and ended up having a robbery egg. But I mean

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<v Speaker 3>the comments that came with them was amazing, Like the

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<v Speaker 3>jam mel was saying that I should bottle it. So

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<v Speaker 3>I was happy with the with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that sounds like a good side hustle. And

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<v Speaker 1>I can confirm that you already have one customer.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that in the last cook though, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that or did you ever have another dish that

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<v Speaker 1>you might have cooked last night instead of the lemon meringue,

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<v Speaker 1>and seeing how the judges reaction, you know, reacted to

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<v Speaker 1>the other contestants as food. Do you think that you

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<v Speaker 1>know that other choice might have been a better choice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, thinking of it now, I should have just

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<v Speaker 3>done a cram caramel because I always do that. I

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<v Speaker 3>always pook that dish and it always turns out the

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<v Speaker 3>way I want it. I mean, that's simple cooking. But

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<v Speaker 3>I mean this competition is interesting because they actually prefer

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<v Speaker 3>you to do classics right. But for me, we wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to impress the judges and show them the techniques that

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<v Speaker 3>I have. Having sixty minutes, I wanted to impress them

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<v Speaker 3>and show them a nice, beautiful tut But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>should have just had a bit of restraint and gone

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<v Speaker 3>back to this, like a really simple cram caramel, and

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<v Speaker 3>that would have saved me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, one thing I think I'm going to remember you

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<v Speaker 1>for from this season is this emotional moment that you

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<v Speaker 1>had where you walked out of the kitchen, which was

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<v Speaker 1>last week. You know, you talked about your partner who

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<v Speaker 1>loves your food and is your biggest champion. I was

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<v Speaker 1>curious to know, you know, was it hard for your

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<v Speaker 1>partner to watch that moment as it played out on telling.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, we actually haven't sat down and watched the

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<v Speaker 3>say that that episode together.

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<v Speaker 1>It busy making wigs.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he was actually out of the country and then

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<v Speaker 3>I was actually coming back from la and then when

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<v Speaker 3>I got back, he had to leave as well. So

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<v Speaker 3>I will sort of like ships in the night sort

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<v Speaker 3>of past at each other. And yeah, but when he was,

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<v Speaker 3>he was definitely emotional when when that came up.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think of my partner when things happened

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<v Speaker 1>to me when I've been on television before. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's fearfully protective of me, and you know, yeah, at

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<v Speaker 1>that point, you know, sort of what can you do

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<v Speaker 1>after that moment though, I mean, Melissa was just so gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you think and she does such a fantastic

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<v Speaker 1>job on the show. I just I think she's my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite judge. I shouldn't say that because you shouldn't have favorites,

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, do you think that that chat that

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<v Speaker 1>you had outside brought you and Melissa closer together?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely, it definitely did. Just the worst that she gave

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<v Speaker 3>me was just it really pushed me push my limits

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<v Speaker 3>and made sure that I do belong in that competition,

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<v Speaker 3>And she was the one that actually made me realize,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you do belong in this competition and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not a Twitter and for me to hear what Meles

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<v Speaker 3>said really cemented my place in that competition. I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm going to do this and push through.

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you think is going to win at this

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<v Speaker 1>point of the competition when you walked out, not what

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<v Speaker 1>you know now, but like as you came out of

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<v Speaker 1>the kitchen that day, who did you think was going

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<v Speaker 1>to win? Like who was your pick or I.

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<v Speaker 3>Thought Mindy was I thought Mindy definitely. Her knowledge, her

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<v Speaker 3>experience and just the way she talks about food was

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<v Speaker 3>just inspiring and I thought, I want her to win

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<v Speaker 3>that competition absolutely well.

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<v Speaker 1>One question I ask everyone who joins the podcast is

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<v Speaker 1>what it is something from behind the scenes that we

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<v Speaker 1>did not see and we won't see that you can

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<v Speaker 1>reveal from behind the scenes, like a behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 1>moment from your time making Master Chef Australia fans versus favorites.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, guess the bond that we actually created behind the scene.

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<v Speaker 3>We came, we all came in with the same passion

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<v Speaker 3>for food and just sharing that knowledge as well. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what the audience don't actually see. I mean, I guess

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<v Speaker 3>you do see it on screen when someone leaves the kitchen,

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<v Speaker 3>and you do see that genuine emotion outflowing. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think just behind the scene, the things that we share,

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<v Speaker 3>just having each other's back. I mean, we all talk

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<v Speaker 3>around the table and we don't even feel like we're

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<v Speaker 3>in a competition. That's how strong we walk into that

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<v Speaker 3>kitchen and we just cook for ourselves, not as a competition.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that's something that people don't see behind

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<v Speaker 3>their scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there any advice that any of you or other favorites,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the winners and the favorites that were back.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there anyone that gave you any words of wisdom

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<v Speaker 1>after your elimination.

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<v Speaker 3>Keeping it simple and just cooking the food that you

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<v Speaker 3>love and not trying to cook to impress, but cook

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<v Speaker 3>what you love.

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<v Speaker 1>And who gave you that advice?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, Mindy and Julie, they were the ones that were

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<v Speaker 3>you know, kept telling me, oh, you know you've got

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<v Speaker 3>to you can do this, and you know, just cook

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<v Speaker 3>from your heart and don't try to impress others, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>start with yourself and cook what you love.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, John, I loved watching you on the show. My

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<v Speaker 1>favorite reality TV contestants of all time are people who

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<v Speaker 1>are honest and people who are real. And I have

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<v Speaker 1>to say I absolutely loved watching you on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh thank you so much. I mean, that was my

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<v Speaker 3>whole intention. Like, I'm not the type of person that

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<v Speaker 3>wants to be in front of capta camera, but going

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<v Speaker 3>into I knew what I could actually bring, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>bringing honesty and the love of food was my main goal.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the most relatable currency that you can have being

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<v Speaker 1>on television is being real. So it's strange to me

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<v Speaker 1>that not everyone is like you and can just lay

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<v Speaker 1>it all on the line like that. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a beautiful, a beautiful talent to have.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's definitely some great insights from John. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>unpack Christina's experience on Master Chef Australia as we find

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<v Speaker 1>out why she returned to Australia's favorite kitchen. Hi Christina,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm good?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is really funny because I have come and

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<v Speaker 1>gone with Master Chef over the years, you know watching it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've never really watched a full season as intently

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<v Speaker 1>as I am this time around. However, I did remember

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<v Speaker 1>you on the season five so it was nice to

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<v Speaker 1>see you back.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, thank you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I had a very distinctive look as well

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<v Speaker 2>in season five, so I think it was a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit easier for people to remember me as that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>rockabilly chick. But yeah, it was great to be back.

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<v Speaker 2>I was shocked and they called me and said yes

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<v Speaker 2>straight away of course. But yeah, it's been great being back.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'd had more time, I went and found this

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<v Speaker 1>to put in my hair while to interview Perfect, which

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<v Speaker 1>is like a red bandanna. Because this is a podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>no one can see what I'm holding up. But I

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<v Speaker 1>ran out of time. But I was hoping to look

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<v Speaker 1>a bit like you for the podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know what, I'm just going to visualize it.

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<v Speaker 4>You look stunning.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no one can see, so I just tell them

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<v Speaker 1>that it's happening.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, congratulations on returning to mastershef Australia. Did season five

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<v Speaker 1>to season fourteen feel like a really long break?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it felt like a very long break and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot happened you know in my personal life as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So and then we also, you know, went through a pandemic,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, I think that extended everyone's far as

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<v Speaker 2>that felt like it went on forever as well. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it felt like a really long time, and I felt

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<v Speaker 2>very rusty.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably felt like fifty years, you know when you think

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<v Speaker 1>about a pandemic.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, with Mascheff and TV in general, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're gone for that long, it's basically fifty years in TV.

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<v Speaker 4>Land, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what a compliment that, you know, myself and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia remembered you and were excited to see you

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<v Speaker 1>come back. You know, what were the biggest changes for

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<v Speaker 1>you in your personal life over that time?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So the biggest change for me was I ended

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<v Speaker 2>up getting diagnosed with endometriosis. So I got very sick

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<v Speaker 2>just after I was on the show, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>basically bound to my couch for a year. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>able to move and I had a total of like

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<v Speaker 2>five surgeries for it and just in and out of hospital,

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<v Speaker 2>lots of pain killers, all like the whole nine yards.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I ended up looking more into like alternative

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<v Speaker 2>medicines and that led me down like a food path

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<v Speaker 2>and how was you know, the that I was consuming

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<v Speaker 2>affecting my body. And I then changed the way I ate,

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<v Speaker 2>and I haven't had a surgery in like three years,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm no longer on painkillers and it's all because

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<v Speaker 2>of the way that I now eat, and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's really just eating more clean and that coincided with

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<v Speaker 2>me just falling in love again with my Portuguese heritage

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<v Speaker 2>and that food and Portuguese food is very simple and

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<v Speaker 2>it's eating like good quality ingredients and there's not a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of ingredients in the food, so it's all kind

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<v Speaker 2>of went really well together. And so that's probably been

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest change both in my personal life and then

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<v Speaker 2>my cooking.

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<v Speaker 3>Life as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, we're going to be following you on your

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<v Speaker 1>social media, you know, post show with your food, but

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that you'll be able to share a

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<v Speaker 1>part of that journey, you know, with the people that

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<v Speaker 1>do follow you, because I think at the moment, what

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<v Speaker 1>is really powerful is people on television being able to

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<v Speaker 1>share their real stories and connecting with the audiodiences. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, endometriosis is such a you know, for years

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<v Speaker 1>it was a bit of a taboo thing where people

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<v Speaker 1>either didn't know enough about it or they didn't feel

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable talking about it. And then you think about who

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<v Speaker 1>you you are as a person. Do you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel comfortable to be sharing that kind of stuff?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely, And I've shared a little bit and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of times when I do. When I create like an

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<v Speaker 2>endometriosis friendly recipe, I always you know, hashtag it in

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<v Speaker 2>my social media that sort of thing like ENDO friendly,

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<v Speaker 2>and I spoke a little bit about it on my

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<v Speaker 2>intro video to my new YouTube channel, a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>about the ENDO. And so as I continue doing that

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<v Speaker 2>in creating recipes of definitely be talking about it and

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, just telling people why it's a good

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<v Speaker 2>recipe to eat, like, you know, why it's a good

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<v Speaker 2>meal sorry to eat for the endometriosis and that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of thing. So I think that talking about things is

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<v Speaker 2>so important. You know, when I was on the show

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<v Speaker 2>last time, I spoke about you know, my my drug

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<v Speaker 2>A did when I was a teenager, and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people were like, you're talking about that, and it's like,

0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:07.320
<v Speaker 2>but you have to because you don't want people to

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<v Speaker 2>feel alone, and people need to know that you can

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<v Speaker 2>move forward and that these things happen and you just

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<v Speaker 2>roll with the punches and life does get better, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, whether it's an addiction or a health condition,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is. I think information is key.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. Share your story is what I always

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<v Speaker 1>say to people, and we forget how powerful it is,

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<v Speaker 1>or we forget how alone some people feel without that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. But we should talk about the show.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about food as well. So when the producers

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<v Speaker 1>called you and asked you to return, what did you

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<v Speaker 1>think that you would bring this time around that you

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<v Speaker 1>know that might not have that you might not have

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<v Speaker 1>achieved last time.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, I thought, well, I'm definitely going to showcase

0:22:49.000 --> 0:22:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Portuguese food. There hasn't been a contestant on the show

0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:55.399
<v Speaker 2>that's really done that, you know. There have been a

0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:59.160
<v Speaker 2>couple of attempts at some Portuguese tarts, which I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know why someone would trying to attempt to make

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<v Speaker 2>a Portuguese on the show. They're so difficult to do,

0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:07.840
<v Speaker 2>but you know, power to them. I tried to make

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:10.480
<v Speaker 2>a barata, so who am I to, you know, to judge,

0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:15.399
<v Speaker 2>But I definitely wanted to bring Portuguese.

0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:18.560
<v Speaker 4>Food to to and scase that. So that was my

0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:21.040
<v Speaker 4>main focus in coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I mean you have remembered earlier on in

0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:28.280
<v Speaker 1>your first season for being a fairly emotional cook under pressure.

0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Did you think that you might have that might have changed,

0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:35.439
<v Speaker 1>or you know, had you come to accept that maybe

0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:37.440
<v Speaker 1>you know that's just a part of your personality.

0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:38.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Look, I thought that I would be able to handle

0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:43.640
<v Speaker 2>the pressure a little bit better, and then the very

0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:48.000
<v Speaker 2>first cook, I was shaking so badly I could barely

0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:51.160
<v Speaker 2>chop the onions, and I was like, you know what,

0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:55.400
<v Speaker 2>it's just me. And I always say that, like cooking

0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:59.119
<v Speaker 2>and food is my love language. So if it means

0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:02.040
<v Speaker 2>that I'm an emergent cook and those emotions come through

0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:03.000
<v Speaker 2>in my food.

0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:04.359
<v Speaker 4>Then so be it.

0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:07.600
<v Speaker 2>I've just had to learn to accept it and go, Okay,

0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:11.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to cry and then that'll be okay and

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:12.359
<v Speaker 2>then we just have to move past.

0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:14.600
<v Speaker 4>But I just need to get the cry out and

0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:15.440
<v Speaker 4>then we'll be good.

0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:18.560
<v Speaker 1>It's okay to cry, you know, it is.

0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:20.439
<v Speaker 4>It is okay to cry. It's just sometimes you're like,

0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:22.040
<v Speaker 4>just not now.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we get to control that kind

0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:27.960
<v Speaker 1>of stuff, you know, And I can't watch. I gravitate

0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:30.560
<v Speaker 1>towards emotional people, so you know, like you've got me,

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:34.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, it doesn't Did your photo of your family help?

0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 2>It definitely helped, And even thinking about it now, like now,

0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:42.280
<v Speaker 2>I get choked up because it's one of the only

0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:44.679
<v Speaker 2>photos that I have with everyone in it. My sister

0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:48.680
<v Speaker 2>and her husband live overseas and so they're in that photo.

0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:52.720
<v Speaker 4>Like every member of my immediate family and everyone who.

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:56.440
<v Speaker 2>I really love is in that So looking over at

0:24:56.440 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 2>it and remembering that I'm doing it for them did help.

0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:02.639
<v Speaker 2>It did, obviously, you know, catch me in my bills

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 2>a little, But it helped more than not.

0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:05.400
<v Speaker 4>Having it there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely. I mean I love that you had the

0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 1>photo of the kids the first time around, you know,

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:13.200
<v Speaker 1>being the second favorite to leave the competition. What does

0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 1>this say about the fans of this series, the fans

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 1>versus favorites. So do you think that they're doing doing well?

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Like a you're thinking, Wow, they're doing better than you thought. Yeah.

0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:24.800
<v Speaker 4>I think that.

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:27.760
<v Speaker 2>At first people would have heard the concept of the

0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:31.880
<v Speaker 2>show and thought, well, wait, like this is not a

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:36.240
<v Speaker 2>fair competition at all. But those fans are really good cooks,

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:38.440
<v Speaker 2>and I think that what happened was it just took

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:41.200
<v Speaker 2>them a couple of weeks to kind of figure out

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 2>the kitchen, figure out where all the ingredients were, where

0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 2>all the equipment is. And now that they've figured that out,

0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:49.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm really scared for the favorites.

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:51.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm a little bit scared for them. Originally I was like, oh,

0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but you know, also last night I

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 1>just wasn't gonna originally ask this, but when Gareth Winton,

0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:01.359
<v Speaker 1>is that how he came into the kitchen? I was

0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:03.320
<v Speaker 1>so pleased that you talked about his hotness.

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:09.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah he was. I was like, are you kidding me?

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 4>How am I meant to focus on this touch?

0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:14.480
<v Speaker 2>It was a little uncomfortable last night watching that with

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 2>my boyfriend beside me.

0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 1>No, it's not. It's not crustinated, because you know what's

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 1>beautiful about you is you remind me of myself. Like

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 1>when you see things, you call it out, you say

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:29.640
<v Speaker 1>it as it is, and you know we've all got

0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:31.920
<v Speaker 1>blood running through our bodies. We're allowed to say that

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 1>you know that someone's hot, you know, without saying.

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 4>Well he even said he was like, yeah, look, I

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:40.440
<v Speaker 4>don't blame me. He's pretty hot.

0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:44.399
<v Speaker 1>He's like, oh, yeah, he was not insecure about it,

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, which I also love in.

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:48.919
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. No, he was like, yeah, you know, he's hot,

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:52.000
<v Speaker 4>look at him, and he can cook. So you know, like,

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:54.359
<v Speaker 4>I'm surprised that you're still sitting beside me on the couch.

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:58.439
<v Speaker 1>Well, let's talk about that, tut. So you said that

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:02.719
<v Speaker 1>you that wasn't going to play into your strengths. Do

0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 1>you think that producers know that kind of stuff and

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 1>that they do need to get rid of certain people

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 1>along the way.

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:11.679
<v Speaker 2>No, I just think that like ninety percent of pressure

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:15.680
<v Speaker 2>tests are dessert based, and so, you know, usually because

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 2>there are so many steps and there's a lot of

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:20.359
<v Speaker 2>measurements when you're talking about dessert, and it tends to

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 2>be more high pressure cook than cooking savory, and most

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 2>of the cooks on the show gravitate towards savory dishes anyway,

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:30.400
<v Speaker 2>There's only really a few that prefer to do sweet dishes.

0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 2>So I think it just levels the playing field a

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 2>little bit more, just doing like a dessert based pressure test,

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:40.359
<v Speaker 2>And so that's why it didn't play into my strengths.

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:42.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm terrible at desserts.

0:27:43.240 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 1>What were you hoping for? I guess it would have

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:48.120
<v Speaker 1>been unfair. On the others, if it was Portuguese food.

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:51.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like if they had just like given some bugal

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 2>out I, you know, would have smashed it, Like it would.

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 4>Have been great.

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 2>On the other hand, Usually when something on Master Chef anyway,

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:04.359
<v Speaker 2>when it's your challenge to win, it's usually when you lose.

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:07.120
<v Speaker 2>It's usually when someone else does a better job.

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>So, how do you think Julie's going to go? Well,

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 1>how do you think she's going with the popularity? I mean,

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of pressure on her with her popularity

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 1>of the return in lots of ways, people are talking

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:20.439
<v Speaker 1>about the fact that she's holding the competition. You know,

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 1>how do you think that she will be if she

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:23.400
<v Speaker 1>doesn't win.

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think Julie will be fine if she doesn't win.

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I think that she I think she'll be shocked if

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 2>she ends up winning. To be honest with you, she

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:35.639
<v Speaker 2>has so much self doubt in her cooking, and you know,

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 2>you see that on the show that she doesn't feel

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 2>like she's you know, good enough, and that her cooking

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 2>is not up to scratch, although her food is amazing

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 2>and the stuff that she does in the fact that

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 2>she made like her own butter on an episode because

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 2>she didn't have butter light. The way that her brain

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 2>works is incredible. So I think she'll be fine if

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 2>if she doesn't win. I just hope that she get

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 2>really far into the competition. And so how great would

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:02.840
<v Speaker 2>it be if she did win? And if she won

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 2>season one and then she wins this season, like that

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 2>would be pretty bloody epic.

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it would be hard as well. I

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 1>mean the odds aren't really in your favor with that,

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:15.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, so it would be a challenge. And do

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 1>you think that the competition has evolved much from your

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>time in season five, two, fourteen and what you know,

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 1>what are those changes that you noticed?

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's definitely evolved.

0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, firstly, there are three new judges, so that has

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 2>changed the competition and also the style of cooking. So

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, the previous judges were really focused on like

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 2>technique and the way that a dish would look and

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:44.719
<v Speaker 2>obviously like the flavor, but they were really technique based,

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 2>where with these judges, they tend to be more focused

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 2>on the flavor. And I think with a lot of

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 2>us favorites, that was something that we struggled with a

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 2>little bit because We're so used to cooking for the

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 2>other the previous judges, so that everyone had to kind

0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 2>of like shift their focus a little bit when it

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 2>came to the food, and it's all about flavor with them.

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 2>And then just like the cooking, it just gets better

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 2>and better every year. And I know that they say

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 2>it in the ads and we all think, like does

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 2>it really like, couldn't really get any better?

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 4>But it really does.

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 2>Like I thought that there was some good cooks in

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:28.320
<v Speaker 2>my season, and there were, but the fans, like they're incredible.

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 2>And then to be around all these you know, favorites

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 2>who you know, like Michael Weldon, like his food not

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 2>only doesn't look beautiful, but.

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 4>It tastes amazing.

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:41.240
<v Speaker 2>And you know the food that he made, like he's

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 2>the only person in the world who's made me like

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 2>a vengamite.

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 4>That's because it was mixed with champagne.

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 1>But he sounds great.

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, it's the cooking style is just incredible.

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, not to put words in your mouth, but I

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 1>mean one of the things that I've really enjoyed about

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 1>the evolution of those posts is there seems to be

0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more emotional intelligence in the way in

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>which they are presenting, and I think that is why

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:11.239
<v Speaker 1>the show's still on telling Like, I felt like that

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>evolution was really important. And then it's amazing that we

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>get someone like yourself that's experienced both competitions and then

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 1>to talk about those those differences, you know.

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think it's really important to have that

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 2>change up and to you know, shake things up a bit,

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 2>you know. And although I absolutely loved, you know, the

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 2>three judges or previous judges, these guys are just like

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 2>completely different, and it really is they want to know

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 2>about the story. They want to know about your heritage,

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:47.400
<v Speaker 2>like an emotional experience. That's what they want. They don't

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 2>care how pretty it looks. They don't care about any

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 2>of that. It's give me food that you would feed

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 2>me in your home. That's the sort of food that

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:00.280
<v Speaker 2>I love to eat as well. So it's great to

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 2>see that.

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Did you reach out to the old judges though, Like,

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 1>did you reach out to them in the process of

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 1>being cast on this show and now being that we've

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 1>seen it now on television, have you had communications?

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 2>I haven't, so leading up to it is all confidential.

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 2>So obviously I could only tell my immediate family because

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 2>I do have children, so you know, my mom knew

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 2>because I had to move in and look after them

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 2>while I was gone.

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 4>But no, I didn't reach out to them.

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:31.160
<v Speaker 2>I've spoken to them a little bit, like just about

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 2>the years, but I haven't reached out inflation to this season.

0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Send them photos of your food nast than what they

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 1>would have said.

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially that first dish. They would have just been like,

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 2>what is this?

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 4>No.

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Well, one of the things that I always ask everyone

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:50.480
<v Speaker 1>that joins the podcast is what is something from behind

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 1>the scenes that we didn't get a chance to see

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>that we won't get a chance to see that you

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 1>can reveal from the behind the scenes magic of your

0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 1>time on Mastership Australia. Fans versus Favorites, Oh.

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 3>That's a good question.

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Other than how unfit I am and that I should

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 2>have worked on my fitness, it's also just like how

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 2>big the space is, you know, like there is like

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 2>that pantry is really far away, and the equipment pantry

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 2>is also really you know, far away. So although you

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 2>know they might give you sixty minutes to cook, really

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 2>you're not standing at your bench for sixty minutes because

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 2>you're running back and forth the whole time, and you know,

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 2>normally at home, if you forget something, you know, your

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 2>fridge is maybe two steps away. So the amount of

0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 2>like running that you have to do and the distance

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 2>between everything that I think that's one of the reasons

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 2>why no one ever goes out to the garden, because

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:53.720
<v Speaker 2>you could either run out to the garden to get

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 2>past or just go.

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 4>To the you know, to the pantry that's a little closer, so.

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:02.400
<v Speaker 1>That you're working up in appetite, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, and then you know, you have these heavy

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<v Speaker 2>boots on and you're wearing jeans, and you know, it's just, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not exactly the easiest task to do to cook

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<v Speaker 2>a dish there.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that's why half the time we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Like like heavily breathing, trying to trying to catch our breath.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's the kitchen itself is a lot bigger than

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<v Speaker 2>what people would imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>So for people applying for the show, start running now,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be great. I don't know about you, but

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<v Speaker 1>I also cook in my in my either my pajamas

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<v Speaker 1>or my sweatpants, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so get some heavy boots and wear pint

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<v Speaker 2>jeans and just run around like your house a few times,

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<v Speaker 2>like in between doing stuff like chop the onion and

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<v Speaker 2>then run around the block and then come back with

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<v Speaker 2>like one garlic clove and mince that and then go

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<v Speaker 2>for another on because that tends to Yeah, well, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I focused on my cooking, but I didn't focus on

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<v Speaker 2>my fitness being.

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<v Speaker 4>Up together, and I probably shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Have done that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I absolutely loved watching you on the show and

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully you know what is it, you know, every seven

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<v Speaker 1>years you come back, so I'll look forward to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm I'm more than happy to come back at

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<v Speaker 2>third time and hopefully that will be third time's charm, right, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Every year from now on, you know, yeah, we Needese food.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we need all Portuguese food on Australian television.

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<v Speaker 1>Please, Well, thank you so much for joining us on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast today and unpacking some of your experience and yeah, thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be in your audience and Sobill Australia. So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to following you on social media and seeing

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<v Speaker 1>what you get up to next.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeh, no, thank you so much for taking the time

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<v Speaker 4>out to chat to me. It was a lot of fun,