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Speaker 1: We know that there has been a lot of discussion

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Speaker 1: you've just heard it about those alcohol restrictions in Alice

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Speaker 1: Springs and questions about whether it's just going to push

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Speaker 1: the problems elsewhere. On Friday, we spoke to Joe Hersey,

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Speaker 1: the member for Catherine, who told us that she understands

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Speaker 1: there has been people already arrive in Alice from Alice Springs.

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Speaker 1: I should say to Catherine. Now joining us on the

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Speaker 1: line to speak more about the situation is the mayor

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Speaker 1: of Catherine, Liz Clark. Good morning to you, Liz.

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Speaker 2: I have good morning Katie.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time this morning. Liz. Are

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Speaker 1: there concerns the alcohol restrictions in Catherine are going to

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Speaker 1: push people to places, sorry, the alcohol restrictions in Alice Springs,

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Speaker 1: that they are going to push people to places like

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Speaker 1: Catherine to access alcohol?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think when something is when something like that

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Speaker 2: is done in one town, it should be across the board,

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Speaker 2: not just in Alice Springs, because that's exactly what does happen.

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Speaker 1: So you reckon that we actually need these restrictions right

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Speaker 1: across the Northern Territory, like Mondays and Tuesdays Alcohol takeaway

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Speaker 1: three days.

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Speaker 2: Well, whatever the consensus is here. If you cannot just

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Speaker 2: do it in one town, it only causes crime displacement

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Speaker 2: and it moves the problem to other areas to seed addictions.

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Speaker 2: So it needs to be And I've heard on the

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Speaker 2: news and the Kimberley was suffering as well, So it's

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Speaker 2: across the north that we're all seemed to be having

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Speaker 2: a similar issue.

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Speaker 1: Liz, how are things going in Catherine at the moment?

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Speaker 1: I know that we had Joe Hersey on the show

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Speaker 1: on Friday and she had said that her understanding is

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Speaker 1: that there had already been some people arriving from Alice Springs.

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Speaker 2: What's your take, Well, we certainly haven't slided up on

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Speaker 2: the crime rate. The crime is still very similar to

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Speaker 2: Alice Springs. The people of Catherine have reached their tolerance

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Speaker 2: point and remedies do definitely need to be applied territory

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Speaker 2: wide because how and it needs we need to find

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Speaker 2: the root cause. Why is this happening suddenly now and

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Speaker 2: increasing across the territory, Liz.

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Speaker 1: When you talk about those alcohol restrictions, if they were

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Speaker 1: indeed pushed to know further around the territory, right around

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Speaker 1: the northern territory, what difference. Do you think it would

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Speaker 1: make or how do you reckon it would help.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe it will help. I think that it's

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Speaker 2: just a band aid solution to a bigger problem. We

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Speaker 2: need to find the root cause of why it's happening.

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Speaker 2: You know, why do we have young people out in

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Speaker 2: the streets now? Why suddenly do we have this crime

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Speaker 2: that we that's successive? It It just doesn't seem to end.

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Speaker 2: It just is constant, and it's right throughout the territory,

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Speaker 2: and I think it's I think we need to look

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Speaker 2: at the root causes, not just closing a few bottle shops,

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Speaker 2: because we also have you know, there's also drugs in

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Speaker 2: that out in the street. But we need to look

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Speaker 2: at the root causes, not just closing the bottlows and

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Speaker 2: thinking that's going to help.

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Speaker 1: That's been the interesting thing, hasn't it, Liz. You know,

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Speaker 1: obviously Alice Springs is in dire need of additional support,

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Speaker 1: but the fact is that we've got issues right around

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Speaker 1: the Northern territory. And I did note even at the

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Speaker 1: beginning of last week when the crime stats had come out,

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Speaker 1: that it did show that they'd been quite the increase

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Speaker 1: in Catherine too.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, we need to we need to address the key

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Speaker 2: issues of addiction to alcohol, youth crime, and domestic violence.

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Speaker 2: It's not it's no longer acceptable just to close a

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Speaker 2: couple of bottle shops and thinks that that's going to

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Speaker 2: fix the problem. It is. It is a major problem

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Speaker 2: throughout the territory. We need to look at the root

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Speaker 2: causes of this problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Liz, as that focus you know, continues on Olice

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Speaker 1: Springs though, and as they have you know, these restrictions

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Speaker 1: in place and potentially have a ballad about whether they

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Speaker 1: continue restrictions, et cetera, et cetera. What do you think,

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Speaker 1: you know, the ramifications could potentially be for other parts

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Speaker 1: of the Northern Territory, particularly for Catherine if those if

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Speaker 1: those restrictions do remain in place in Alice.

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Speaker 2: I think what will happen is there'll be a shift

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Speaker 2: and again it'll cause a crime displacement, So people will

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Speaker 2: move further to will move to either both Catherine and

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Speaker 2: to Darwin, and they will also move across the Kunnanara.

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Speaker 2: So anywhere that doesn't have these restrictions will certainly see

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Speaker 2: an increase in people coming to those towns.

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Speaker 1: Well, Liz, I think that you know that the concerns

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Speaker 1: you raise the ones that many of us are worried

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Speaker 1: about at this point in time. I really appreciate you

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Speaker 1: having a chat with us this morning. The Mayor of Catherine,

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Speaker 1: Liz Clark, thanks so much for your.

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Speaker 2: Time and thank you. Thank you very much, Katie, thank

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Speaker 2: you