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Speaker 1: You know how you got done with the salmon today.

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Speaker 2: I did get done with the salmon before.

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Speaker 1: I came here for this record. Had a salmon Hi salmon,

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Speaker 1: i come for the record. And Laura, who was in

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Speaker 1: the other end of the room, she was like, what

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Speaker 1: the fuck is that salmon? Will be the undoing of

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Speaker 1: this show. Hey, welcome, you're listening to us. It's because

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Speaker 1: it's a Monday, and that's weird. It's a bonus episode day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we have really really special guests excited about

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Speaker 3: this one.

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Speaker 2: They go by the Buckley's. One is James Buckler and

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Speaker 2: the other is Claire.

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Speaker 1: You may know James Buckley is as Jay from The

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Speaker 1: in Betweeners. And she told me you'd watched this series about.

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Speaker 2: Three hundred times. I still have it on DVD.

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Speaker 1: So are you like a little bit This is like

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Speaker 1: meeting Michael Jackson Jason.

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Speaker 2: Well, during this whole chat, I had an erection. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're lucky. You're lucky. We're all lucky. But they also

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Speaker 2: have a YouTube.

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Speaker 1: As well as a podcast called In Sickness and in Health.

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Speaker 1: Claire is a very.

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Speaker 2: Skilled YouTuber and podcaster.

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Speaker 1: And they've been together for a long time. They're only

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Speaker 1: young about our age, but they've been together for about

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Speaker 1: fourteen years. They've got two boys, both of whom are

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Speaker 1: quite old. They're like almost teenagers now. So it was

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Speaker 1: but much further down the line of their parenting journey.

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Speaker 2: And their parenting style seemed very relaxed.

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Speaker 4: Very children most two chill anyway, enjoy Welcome.

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Speaker 1: To three doting dads and one doting mum. I am Maddie, Jay, I'm.

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Speaker 5: Ash, I'm James, and I'm Claire.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast all about parenting.

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Speaker 2: It's the good, the bad, and the relatable.

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Speaker 1: And if you've come wanting any type of advice, I

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Speaker 1: have to tell you right now. I'm going to stop

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Speaker 1: you in your tracks and say, unfortunately, today we don't

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Speaker 1: give any None will be given. Maybe the Buckleys will

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Speaker 1: have some advice for us. They have got slightly older

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Speaker 1: kids than what we have, Matt, So we've come here.

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Speaker 1: James and Claire, wanting to get some advice from yourselves,

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Speaker 1: because Ash and I we both have two kids, each

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Speaker 1: similar ages about five and three ish two ish three

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Speaker 1: three two. I like that we're looking to you.

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Speaker 5: You've come to the right place. Yeah. Absolutely, I've got

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Speaker 5: all the secrets. I know exactly what I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: Before we go into your kids. I do want to know.

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Speaker 1: I like a love story, and i'd like to see

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Speaker 1: if you can cast your memories back to when you

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Speaker 1: first met. Was it like thirteen or fourteen, fifteen years ago?

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Speaker 5: Maybe fourteen years fourteen?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, fourteen years flown by the two of you

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Speaker 1: locked eyes in the room. Do you remember Was it

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Speaker 5: Pretty much was? Yeah. I would have said I don't

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Speaker 5: It was pretty much. Well obviously, you know. First of all,

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Speaker 5: I'm just in love with you now, that's it.

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Speaker 2: What about you? Claire? It was it love? At first

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Speaker 6: I do I love it, I mean not today.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm getting told off because listen, no offense, guys.

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Speaker 5: But I couldn't be bothered to have a shower. I've

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Speaker 5: It's not my skin. So I just stuck a little

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Speaker 1: When you guys had your first conversation, was was it

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Speaker 6: It was pretty instant that we were about like, okay,

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Speaker 5: It was a couple of hundred miles away.

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Speaker 2: Whereabouts were you?

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Speaker 6: We were in Liverpool and England and James.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly it was trust me. I had to hold

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Speaker 6: That's why I said back down. Yeah, because I nearly

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Speaker 6: It was probably sorry, do you swear on this?

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Speaker 5: You Australian Claire, don't you worry?

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Speaker 5: It was more that we were you know, we're both

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Speaker 5: To be born to the Beatles, both of them.

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Speaker 5: I did a little test where I said, well, who's

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Speaker 6: He's very high. He's very easy to please with James.

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Speaker 5: In my opinion, I like George. Two kids at a playground.

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Speaker 5: Who's your favorite? Power?

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Speaker 3: And I mean you fell pregnant with Harrison pretty quick

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Speaker 1: What I think was it, were your friends your peers,

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Speaker 6: We were definitely the first. I mean I did a

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Speaker 5: No, I was trying to warn them. I was going,

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Speaker 1: It's tough though, because like we we always talk about,

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Speaker 1: Ash has had the snip. I'm on the fence a

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Speaker 2: Really, do you try and talk to me into having

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and then I.

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Speaker 6: I think for a lot of while, I think, especially

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Speaker 5: I find it really difficult. We're all really close. We

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Speaker 5: That's where it's really tough. Otherwise it be easy, easy

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Speaker 1: But other than that, like what's going for punishment?

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Speaker 2: Take his guitar away, I lock mine in the cupboard,

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Speaker 5: Find something that they really love, find they really love,

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Speaker 5: But I like the commitment to really going above and beyond. Right,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have the It honestly scared me straight.

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Speaker 5: But luckily enough kids are quite cool. They're not there

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Speaker 6: Back is more about you.

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Speaker 5: But now you know what he's like though when you

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Speaker 5: come on, we haven't really.

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00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 6: All these years, well you've been winking on.

444
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 5: It's like what you're saying is that's from The in

445
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 5: Between Us.

446
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 3: But I'm aware of the scene. I'm aware of the scene.

447
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 3: Let's just quickly touch on that. Do you do your

448
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 3: kids are getting older? Do they know who you are?

449
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:30,719
Speaker 2: James?

450
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 5: Yeah?

451
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 6: No, they're always constantly tailing them.

452
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm always.

453
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: Who wants to watch another episode?

454
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,959
Speaker 5: Know when they when they are naughty? I do. I

455
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,120
Speaker 5: do get them to polish my awards. No, that's not true.

456
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 1: But do you have to explain to them, like you know,

457
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: I guess because of people coming up to you in public,

458
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 1: you have to say, you know, not only you know,

459
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: get the TV show, but you've got the podcast, You've

460
00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 1: got the vlogs. So that much draw a lot of

461
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: eyeballs when you're out in the street.

462
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, but they've grown up with it. Yeah.

463
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 6: I mean James was doing The in Between Us before

464
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 6: we even met, so they've since they were little, they've

465
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 6: always known. You know, people want pictures with their dad

466
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 6: for some reason. And then as they got older. I

467
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 6: mean when we went to Australia to film the second film,

468
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 6: the kids were there. Jud was just a baby, but

469
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 6: Harrison was, you know, a little toddler. So he he

470
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 6: knows it and it's you know, it's sort of cliched,

471
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 6: but it's bolden for him, like he couldn't care less

472
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 6: used to it.

473
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, the kids had not seen anything. They've not seen

474
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 5: any They've never seen the in between us. They know

475
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 5: of it, they know they know the boys stuff, they've

476
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 5: never seen it. I mean, I listen, I'm pretty lazy

477
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 5: when it comes to parents in but I do you know,

478
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 5: I do feel like we have social services turned up

479
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 5: at the door if the watch that they've been watching

480
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 5: The Between Claire.

481
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: When it comes to keeping the Spark alive, can you

482
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: give us any advice there?

483
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 2: Please?

484
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 5: The Spark life. As soon as I hear those words,

485
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 5: oh go on, then that's it. I know, I know

486
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 5: she loves me.

487
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 6: Just make it quick, carry out.

488
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 5: And that's it. That's that. I cannot imagine being more excited.

489
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 5: That's that's that's.

490
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 1: There's a hint of sarcasm.

491
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 5: No, not no sarcasm at all. Whatsoever. That's my best dye.

492
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 5: That's how that's how I want to go out. That's

493
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 5: how I want to die.

494
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 6: Well, we'll see if we can make that happen. Keeping

495
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 6: the spark alive, I don't know. We're not we're not

496
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 6: very sparky people. You know, we're we're setting our ways

497
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 6: over here. We're old, the kids are older. We've got

498
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 6: you know, the dishwasher constantly needs empty.

499
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 5: There's just stuff to be doning need for sparks.

500
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 2: We are, we're just we're from the outside looking in.

501
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 3: The banter that you guys have together is something that

502
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 3: I think, like, I don't know, it's just so fluent

503
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 3: and whenever I watch videos of you guys, it's like,

504
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 3: I think that everyone should have that banter in their relationship.

505
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: Would you agree with that? Do you guys?

506
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 5: There's no spark. There's no spark.

507
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 6: It's more like going back to the spir No, it's

508
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 6: more like.

509
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 5: A glowing ember that's constantly.

510
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: Oh that's beautiful.

511
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:25,719
Speaker 5: It's just a little flicker there.

512
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 6: It makes spark up.

513
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 5: There might be something, you know, on a after we've

514
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 5: had a.

515
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 6: Couple of beers, birthday. No, I think I do think

516
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 6: I say this quite a lot because we get that

517
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 6: question a lot, like do you really get on as

518
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 6: well as you know it looks like you're doing stuff?

519
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 6: And we do, I mean obviously not twenty four seven.

520
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 6: I mean he gets on my nerves a lot of

521
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 6: the time.

522
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 5: This is news to me. Yeah, you should have mentioned something.

523
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 6: I just had to make him take a pawn. Shore

524
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 6: was wearing a porn show to do this podcast.

525
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 2: It's a bit not one of the would I like it?

526
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 5: No, it's like a little Clint No.

527
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 6: I was like, get that off.

528
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 5: To wander up.

529
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: I'm guessing it's cold there, right, it's a.

530
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 6: Little bit chilly, not cold enough for a willy hatton

531
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 6: a porn show. But I think I think what I

532
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 6: would say is that we're genuinely friends, like we get

533
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 6: on if you take if you take marriage at the

534
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 6: equation and the whole like, oh we're together because we're

535
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 6: in love and we're married and all that stuff. If

536
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 6: you take that, me and James can you know, go

537
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 6: to the pub and set in chat for four hours

538
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 6: and have some drinks, we can watch a film, we

539
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 6: can get a take like we just we genuinely enjoy

540
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 6: spending time together. And he does I think we make

541
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 6: each other laugh. We can we can have fun absolutely

542
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 6: with the marriage stuff with it sex remember that, and

543
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 6: I was a fun with it sex.

544
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah.

545
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: I always think if only Ash would give me a blowjob,

546
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: would be a match made.

547
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 5: And hair.

548
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm frigid. I'm frigid like that.

549
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,239
Speaker 5: That's it. I mean, as soon as as soon as

550
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 5: our spokes realize we can just do that to each other,

551
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 5: ladies are in trouble. The worst thing is is if

552
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 5: we learn how to do it to ourselves, that's the

553
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 5: breakdown of society.

554
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 6: Yeah.

555
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have been practicing years. The order I get,

556
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 2: the less flexible I get to.

557
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 6: There was always that rumor at school that somebody could

558
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 6: do it to themselves, wouldn't they.

559
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 5: I'd never reach No matter how flexible are, I'd never

560
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 5: be able to get there.

561
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 3: Even though you're never going to get there, it's definitely

562
00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 3: worth a try, all right, Claire, Not into the self blood.

563
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: Sorry.

564
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: When you think back at the twelve years of parenting,

565
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: is there anything that you think, Oh gosh, I wish

566
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: I knew this twelve years ago before I embarked on

567
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: this journey.

568
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say something, but it's so cliche and annoying,

569
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 6: but it's so true. I genuinely wish because people tell

570
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 6: you all the time, but I genuinely wish if I

571
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 6: could go back in time. No, I genuinely wish I

572
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 6: knew how fast it goes. And I know people tell

573
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 6: you that all the time, like, oh, enjoy it and

574
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 6: they're only little for so long and that sort of stuff.

575
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 6: But every day when you're doing it, when you've got

576
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 6: a two year old or three year old, every day

577
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 6: you're like, this is I've been here for years, Like

578
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 6: why is nothing? Why can nobodice still feed themselves or

579
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 6: wipe their own us?

580
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 5: And they are They're fucking useless. When they first turn

581
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 5: as well, they can't heads up. They're just saying they're

582
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 5: flopping about. You've got old their heads forums, So you go,

583
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 5: where are you going to survive? You need to s.

584
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 6: Before you know it, they're going to be a teenager

585
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 6: and you know they're it. Really genuinely does just go

586
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 6: sow quick? Makes me a boutside.

587
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're in the thick of it, sort of two

588
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: three year olds at.

589
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 3: The moment where it's like this, I think that they're

590
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 3: smarter than we give them credit. For because they're not

591
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: that useless. I've seen my youngest, I've seen a fin

592
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 3: for itself without me. But I know what you mean.

593
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: And look, it does go really fast, like having you know,

594
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 3: both met and I have five year olds.

595
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 2: Now I look at photos from a couple of years

596
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: ago and I go.

597
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 3: Holy ship, like it went it was slow, But then

598
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 3: you look back and it's like a holiday.

599
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: Really, is there a phase that you missed the most?

600
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 6: I really missed the toddler two three, two and three. Yeah,

601
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 6: they were just so funny because the say, like, I've

602
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 6: got this video that I watch of Judd, which is

603
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 6: really bad, but he had for some reason he heard

604
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 6: bullshit somewhere right the word bullshit, which isn't really something

605
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 6: that we even see.

606
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 5: It's quite an American, but.

607
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 6: He just would not stop saying it. He was just

608
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 6: walking around this bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, that's bullshit. And obviously,

609
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 6: like you are laughing at the time, but you're like,

610
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 6: that's very bad. You don't say that's a bad one,

611
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 6: and you go through that. But just looking back at

612
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 6: those things where they were just because they're not us,

613
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 6: isn't they Toddlers are just.

614
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: Insane little drunk people.

615
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, they are in they're hilarious. Yeah, so I do.

616
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 6: I really like that.

617
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 5: That's the problem when kids swear, though, because your immediate

618
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 5: reaction is to laugh. It is funny, it's really oh yeah,

619
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 5: it is funny.

620
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: It's hilarious.

621
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 5: But then it's too late that I don't even tell them.

622
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 5: You can't turn around and go right, well, don't do that.

623
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 4: I know.

624
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 5: I laughed and found it really funny.

625
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 6: Because if they get a laugh, understand, it's like you,

626
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 6: if you get a laugh, you're going to keep doing

627
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 6: it exactly.

628
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 5: But I am. I am the kids whore. I don't

629
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 5: know what it is about my memory, but the kids,

630
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 5: the way the kids are now, just how I always

631
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 5: remember them. And I've said that for years. I've just

632
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 5: been like, well, they're just like they are now. So

633
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 5: like Jude now he's going to be eleven this year.

634
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 5: Yeah's baby Jude, he's going to be eleven this year. Yeah,

635
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 5: and like and like Covid was only well I keep

636
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 5: saying only a couple of years ago, four years ago

637
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 5: this year, so he was six, he was six years old, Yeah,

638
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 5: but Covid was only last week.

639
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 6: I think the Covid thing I think it did put

640
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 6: like a little weird time warp on everybody's timelines, because

641
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,479
Speaker 6: I did just feel like I messed a year. I

642
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 6: was kind of like, oh, like before you knew it,

643
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 6: there were actually two years of don't we hadn't done anything.

644
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 6: It was just it was odd.

645
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: To not was I missed? I miss it.

646
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 6: I loved that.

647
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 5: I was in lockdown. I was in lockdown way before

648
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 5: it was cool to be in.

649
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: Lockdown, before it was a fad. I been doing this

650
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 2: for you.

651
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 5: I got a phone call it was like, Oh, it's

652
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 5: good to see I haven't seen you for ages. How

653
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 5: are you getting on in lockdown? I was like, what

654
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 5: are you talking about?

655
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 6: You don't even know what was going on.

656
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 5: You're not allowed to leave your house, that's.

657
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 6: Fine, allowed to leave your host, not allowed to see people,

658
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 6: you're not allowed to go in where me and James.

659
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 5: Were like, per correct, brilliant, brilliant.

660
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: We just want to say thank you so much for your.

661
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 5: Time, thank you for having us.

662
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: It sounds like you've got it fucking dialed reckon.

663
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't feel like it.

664
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Speaker 3: Well, just so you know, from the outside looking in,

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Speaker 3: it looks like you're killing it.

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Speaker 5: It's all we're doing though, so we're doing. You can't.

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Speaker 5: It's difficult to give child advice anyway, because they're all different,

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Speaker 5: these kids, they've all got their own combination. And you learn, Like,

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Speaker 5: that's what I say to someone just about to have

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Speaker 5: a child, because it is daunting and it's scary. You

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Speaker 5: want to be a good and you'll learn, you'll learn

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Speaker 5: what works, you'll learn what doesn't, and you'll be fine.

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Speaker 5: You'll be absolutely fine.

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Speaker 2: Heard of the very confident?

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Speaker 6: Many you surprisingly confident?

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Speaker 2: Have you heard?

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Speaker 5: Have you guys heard of the Jeremy Carle Show over Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I lived in London for four years. I watched

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Speaker 1: it a bit.

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Speaker 5: It was this talk show and it's all these nuts. No,

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Speaker 5: but I just used to because I remember one day

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Speaker 5: I was like, fuck, I'm going to be a dad

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Speaker 5: and I'm not. I've never been good at anything, so

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Speaker 5: I really imagine I'm going to make a mess of this.

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Speaker 5: And I was watching the Jeremy Carle Show during the

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Speaker 5: day and I was.

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Speaker 6: Just like Jerry Springer.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like Jerry Springer, you get sort.

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Speaker 2: Of oh okay, okay, ye're trashy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I was just thinking, well, these have all

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Speaker 5: got kids, they're all still alive and stuff.

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Speaker 6: And that was the bar and I was like, you

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Speaker 6: can do it.

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Speaker 5: I can do it.

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Speaker 3: There's got to be a little bit better than that.

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Speaker 5: Married couple coming on and the husband beyond and he'll

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Speaker 5: be like you slept with my grandma and be like

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Speaker 5: these guys are all still you.

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Speaker 2: Work it out.

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Speaker 1: There needs to be like when you like when you

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Speaker 1: leave hospital, it's like you get your blanket, you get

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Speaker 1: the goodie bag, and that should be like a DVD

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Speaker 1: of Jerry mc like, if you ever feeling stressed out,

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Speaker 1: watch episode just stay up grandma.

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Speaker 6: And you're a fane.

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Speaker 2: That's solid. Advice is solid.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again, guys, guys jumping on, well, how did you

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Speaker 1: find that big guy? That was good, big big man

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Speaker 1: our first English guess and our first couple that we've

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Speaker 1: had on the podcast, which is I'd like to do

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Speaker 1: more couples and interviewing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Laurel, look out see.

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Speaker 1: Where things go. But yeah, nicest, nice to speak to

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Speaker 1: others who are just doing a bloody great job at

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Speaker 1: parenting now. That was was great to talk to them.

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Speaker 1: If you have any other people individuals that you think, hey,

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Speaker 1: they'd be great to have on the podcast as a guest.

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Speaker 1: Please send him away either in our DMS or our email.

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Speaker 1: I believe hello hello at two Doting Dads dot com.

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Speaker 2: It'll be in the show in.

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Speaker 1: The show notes.

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Speaker 3: We'll also put in the show notes a link to

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Speaker 3: James and Claire's YouTube and their.

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Speaker 2: Podcast why Not, Why Not? Why Not?

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Speaker 1: Very generous of you. I'm a generous guy, not a

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Speaker 1: generous guy, and as always asking quietly for you to just,

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Speaker 1: you know, please review, subscribe a few stars. And I'm

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Speaker 1: about to ship myself with this salmon, so I'm going

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Speaker 1: to get out of here.

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Speaker 2: I've already shit myself, so I'm good.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Two Doting Adds podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of

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Speaker 1: country throughout Australia and the connections to land, sea and community.

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Speaker 3: We pay our respects to their elders past and present

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Speaker 3: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestrate Islander

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Speaker 3: peoples today.

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