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<v Speaker 2>This episode is recorded on Gadigal Land of the Aurora Nation.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Laura. Don't sound so exasperated, Laura bringing over there

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<v Speaker 1>and this is our Thursday episode where we answer all

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<v Speaker 1>of your deep, you're dark, you're burning, troublesome questions. Brittany's

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<v Speaker 1>dogs over there trying to kill a It looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a travel pillow. This is her. She'll come down in

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<v Speaker 1>a minute. She's got one favorite toy and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>sloth and she brings it with her everywhere. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a well, what's it like when the kids have that

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<v Speaker 1>as a blanket. Well, Molly has one called a rabbie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a comfit thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a confuter yeah, speaking of like our children just

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<v Speaker 2>being so comfortable and cute. Do you know what Molly

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<v Speaker 2>said to me on the drive over here? So coming

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<v Speaker 2>to record this morning. I take the kids to daycare,

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<v Speaker 2>drop them off, and then I come here to Brittany's

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful little house and we record out of her studio room.

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<v Speaker 2>Also love that you said speaking of our children, like two,

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<v Speaker 2>I was my child? Yeah what did she do?

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<v Speaker 1>So?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in the car and I was singing what's our

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<v Speaker 2>favorite song at the moment, brit.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck you, mag your mom and your sister. Hang it,

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<v Speaker 1>I say, dog, but that's not so.

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<v Speaker 2>I was singing the very g rated version of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was singing forget you and your mum, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>in the car and I put it up really loud,

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<v Speaker 2>and I hear Molly. She's in the backseat and she

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<v Speaker 2>just goes And I was like, Baba, what's wrong? Thinking

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<v Speaker 2>what sort of huge turmoil is my two year old

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<v Speaker 2>in the back going through?

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<v Speaker 1>She goes, oh, mummy, I hate it when you're talking.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, well, lucky, I talk for a living, isn't it? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, actually, I was singing and she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I hate that too, what do I? Because she has

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<v Speaker 2>so much attitude, my two year old two and a half,

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<v Speaker 2>she's she's gonna be three and three months. She has

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<v Speaker 2>so much attitude.

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<v Speaker 1>I was about to say, maybe she's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>like a really introverted and quiet, but she's got none

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<v Speaker 1>of that. She's not introverted quiet at all.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's so quick to tell you all the things

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<v Speaker 2>that she doesn't like about you, Like she's now she'll

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<v Speaker 2>be like, mummy, what are these? Oh they're wrinkles, Like

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<v Speaker 2>she knows what she's doing. I don't know, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think I don't think it's Malicia. I think there's malice

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<v Speaker 2>in that child.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, like, let's be real, I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>two years old. She's been malicious and she's not pointing

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<v Speaker 1>out your wrinkles to make you feeling secure, Laura. She

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<v Speaker 1>probably doesn't know what a wrinkle is yet.

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<v Speaker 2>And last night, well she does, she says wrinkles, So

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<v Speaker 2>she does. And last night she sat in the shower

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<v Speaker 2>on her potty with a bucket on her head. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the child, this is the child that has so

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<v Speaker 2>much control over my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, then, are you really going to take what a

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<v Speaker 1>child that sits naked with a buffet on her head?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you going to take what she says as gospel?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I don't think you need to anyway, your frinkles

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<v Speaker 1>a fine get some botops, haven't you for it? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what? I just want to mention as well.

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<v Speaker 2>We did an episode on Tuesday that was on the Overwhelm,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have received so many fucking, absolutely lovely messages

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<v Speaker 2>from people this week. Are the moms who listened to

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast and felt exactly the way that we have felt,

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<v Speaker 2>who resonated with what we spoke about, who are also

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<v Speaker 2>in this state of just well, like there's no other

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<v Speaker 2>better word for it than feeling overwhelmed. As want to

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<v Speaker 2>say thank you to everyone who listened and who wrote in.

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<v Speaker 2>It means so much to us when we know that

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about something or we touch on a topic

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<v Speaker 2>that resonates with you guys. And reading those messages, I

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<v Speaker 2>had one woman right to me and said that she

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<v Speaker 2>went for a walk and she was in tears listening

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<v Speaker 2>to it because she fully just feels like her life

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<v Speaker 2>has been so to the point of capacity recently.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, yes, girlfriend, us too, Ah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>really not I love that we do hearing that it's

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<v Speaker 1>making a difference. In complete transparency. I didn't get any messages.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll read this one to you because this one. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's definitely the overwhelmed. Like we said, it

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<v Speaker 1>definitely affects everybody, but I think it hits differently with

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<v Speaker 1>mums because of the fact that it is unrelenting. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I got? I did get a few

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<v Speaker 1>messages from people that said they really felt what I

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<v Speaker 1>felt when I said I was crying over getting a

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<v Speaker 1>dating app. When I was like, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>get back back, They're like, girl, we feel you. It

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<v Speaker 1>is sold a stream. We don't want to do it either.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got a few of those, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get any resonating about the mom.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, this one mum wrote in she said, I

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<v Speaker 2>just listened this afternoon, having an emotional afternoon with my kids.

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<v Speaker 2>After listening, I reached out to my mother in law

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<v Speaker 2>and she came over and looked after my three year

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<v Speaker 2>olds so I could go for a walk with the

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<v Speaker 2>dog in peace. And I cried a bit more while

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<v Speaker 2>listening to this. And I just think so many people

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<v Speaker 2>feel exactly the same, and there's something really something not

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<v Speaker 2>that you want other people to be having the same

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<v Speaker 2>small traumas that you are, but there's something.

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<v Speaker 1>Really healing in knowing that you're not alone in feeling

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<v Speaker 1>like this on ndred percent. But we're not gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>that now. No, get into I want to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you about an influencer. Oh, I know what you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to me about. Yeah, I'm once speaking to

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<v Speaker 1>the audience. It's happened again, everybody. I'm not talking to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to you. I want to speak to you, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to tell you about an influencer. She's a

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<v Speaker 1>Brazilian influencer, and I'm talking a very big influencer, fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>point seven million followers. Her name, well she goes. Her

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<v Speaker 1>stage name now is Poker, but her name is a

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<v Speaker 1>Vivian di Quero's perrera.

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<v Speaker 2>So fluently Britta no South American, definitely, butgerted that.

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<v Speaker 1>But bless her soul. She's so funny. She's very open

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<v Speaker 1>with the followers. And she went to hospital the other

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<v Speaker 1>night with extreme, extreme stomach pain, like she thought her

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<v Speaker 1>insides were falling out. She was with her new boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, and she's like, she kept him up

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<v Speaker 1>all night because she was in so much pain. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm got it at the hospital or something's really really wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>My my apendix is bursting or I'm dying. She gets

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital and she gets told by the doctor that

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, she's just been she's just been holding her

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<v Speaker 1>farts in. That's it, and it's caused extreme pain. And

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<v Speaker 1>she was really honest. She's like, guys, my boyfriend and

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<v Speaker 1>I were pretty new, we're not on fighting terms yet,

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<v Speaker 1>so she's been holding them in. Little did she know

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<v Speaker 1>that it can be disastrous.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I just say, how can you be so frightened

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<v Speaker 2>to far in front of your boyfriend but so okay

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to tell that many people like surely that

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<v Speaker 2>there's a bit of a gap year And I know

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<v Speaker 2>we've spoken about this before. She is not the first

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<v Speaker 2>person to end up in hospital from holding in her farts. Laura,

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<v Speaker 2>you have I didn't purposely hold in my farts. I

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<v Speaker 2>just ended up in hospital because I had trapped gas.

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<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't get trapped from holding it in.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know, because I would never had a

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<v Speaker 2>corner like I can't find this whay.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, roadblock, I'll just stay here.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never had a prokate, I've never not that okay

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<v Speaker 2>in the early days of a relationship. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>far in front of my partner, of course not. But

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<v Speaker 2>we've spoken about this before. I have no qualms. Once

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<v Speaker 2>I'm comfortable with partner, I think that it's totally fine,

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<v Speaker 2>no holes, bars, let that shit loose.

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<v Speaker 1>I am the pole opposite. I'm not a farer like

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, obviously I do them, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>do it in front of my partner. I never ever

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<v Speaker 1>will unless it was like an emergency or it's slipped

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<v Speaker 1>out accidentally. But I'm never going to be in a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship where I think it's funny to like lift a

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<v Speaker 1>butt cheek and let one rip. It's not, and I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want my partner to do it. Actually, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember when I was in the early stages with Jordan.

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<v Speaker 1>I would even leave, like to go to the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 1>But after probably three weeks he said to me, like

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<v Speaker 1>he was with his friends and he's like, Brett, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't hold these farts in anymore. He's like, I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>extreme stomach pain. Because he used to be like I

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<v Speaker 1>need to fight, and I just wouldn't let him. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you absolutely can't. He's like, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that you could go to hospital with it. So

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<v Speaker 1>I used to make him hold the meat.

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<v Speaker 2>Britt used to leave her apartment and go to the

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<v Speaker 2>public toilets across the beach, public toilets at Bondo beg

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<v Speaker 2>to do a pooh.

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<v Speaker 1>It matters what she did. In my defense, I told

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<v Speaker 1>law of that in confidence. And it was one time.

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<v Speaker 1>I No, there was this one time in the very

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<v Speaker 1>early stages where I think we'd had We'd had drinks

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<v Speaker 1>the night before we had it, We've been out dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd had some not good food, and you know when

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<v Speaker 1>you just not I woke up and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I do not feel well like I this something is

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<v Speaker 1>a miss here. And I was like, this is not

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<v Speaker 1>acceptable to be done in a small apartment. No, the

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<v Speaker 1>apartment was small, the bathroom was next to the bedroom.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no escape in it. He sleeps in. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was like going for a run and just like

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<v Speaker 1>ran across to the public toil to go to the toil.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is actually really funny because I don't know, Laura,

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<v Speaker 1>if you like, it's definitely a common thing. But Abby

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<v Speaker 1>Chatfield was recently on the hundred with Andy Lee. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so relatable because we all do it. But she was

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<v Speaker 1>just saying that she in the mornings with her partner Conrad.

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't want a pooh in front of him. She's

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<v Speaker 1>not at that stage, so she makes an excuse every

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<v Speaker 1>morning to go to a cafe and do what she

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<v Speaker 1>calls an anonymous poop. And I was like, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>so related, like we've I think everyone has been there

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<v Speaker 1>the worst. I think it's the hardest thing about dating,

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<v Speaker 1>and like a new relationship, it is not the hardest

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<v Speaker 1>all to me. I'm so easy going in every other aspect.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, it is when you get together. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>give a fuck about anything else. I'm like, I am

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<v Speaker 1>not ready to fight or poop in front of me.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of all the trials and tribulations and all the

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<v Speaker 2>ups and downs of a new relationship, you think that

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<v Speaker 2>deciding where to go to the toilet is the hardest

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<v Speaker 2>decision that you have to make.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's not just something where it's just how to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid going to the toilet in front of your partner.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean like for me, when you just say

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<v Speaker 1>the trials and tribulations of an early relationship, for me,

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<v Speaker 1>there should be no trials and tribulations. The trial and

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<v Speaker 1>tribulation is going to the toilet. I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I mean, we are so aware that this is

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<v Speaker 2>an incredibly divisive topic. I would say, I mean, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>love to know what the real statistics are. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that there's been a formal hol being done. But like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're either someone who does not care like me, or

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<v Speaker 2>you're someone who deeply cares and passionately cares about keeping

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<v Speaker 2>something sacred in the relationship. I don't want us to

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<v Speaker 2>ever get to a point where we think it's no judgment.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's different. But here is a reason why you should

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<v Speaker 2>get a little bit more comfortable. This is a medical

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<v Speaker 2>this is I'm going deep. This is a report. This

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<v Speaker 2>is what the doctors have to say. Trying to hold

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<v Speaker 2>in your parts leads to a build up of pressure

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<v Speaker 2>and major discomfort. A build up if intest personal gas

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<v Speaker 2>can trigger abdominal distension, with some gas reabsorbing into the

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<v Speaker 2>circulatory system and exhaled in your breath.

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<v Speaker 1>Holding on too long.

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<v Speaker 2>Means the build up of intestinal gas will eventually escape

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<v Speaker 2>via an uncomfortable fart or hospitalization. There you go, everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>that is what you will breathe your fart out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't let it out, If it doesn't come

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<v Speaker 2>out below it'll come out of it, and you can't

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<v Speaker 2>blame it on garlic, like.

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<v Speaker 1>You can tell you have had some garlia. Ask night,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry about that. Nope, you I'm burping out shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry I had some farts last night. Aarah. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's half about that. Let's get into some questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I have a question which is a very it's

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<v Speaker 2>a question we've never been asked before. Firstly, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to ask a question back to it, but I'll get

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<v Speaker 2>into it. Okay, what do you wear to a group

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<v Speaker 2>audition for The Bachelor?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you go all out ball gown or low key?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to stand out but also not look

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<v Speaker 2>like a complete weirdo? Maybe I'm asking for a friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'm asking because I'm going to an audition.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows? Okay, well we do. If you're going for

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<v Speaker 1>an audition, Okay, well, straight up, you don't wear a

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<v Speaker 1>ball don't. Please don't worry, please please please don't do

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<v Speaker 1>that unless unless you want to be cast as a

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<v Speaker 1>crazy person, unless you actually wear a ball gown day

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<v Speaker 1>to day, don't wear a ball gown. What you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do? My best advice and Laura, I wonder I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna ask in a second if you remember what you wore?

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<v Speaker 1>My best advice is to wear what you would wear.

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<v Speaker 1>You just want to be you. You want to present your

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<v Speaker 1>own personality, but maybe you want to do it at

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<v Speaker 1>the best level. So maybe you want to do what

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<v Speaker 1>you do day to day. But you know, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>polish version, but maybe you're not polished. Maybe you are

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<v Speaker 1>really laid back. Maybe you're a skater girl. Whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 1>my best advice is to just go as you are

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<v Speaker 1>and be you because they can see through anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>They can see it one hundred miles away.

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<v Speaker 2>Be your authentic self. Isn't that take home message of

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<v Speaker 2>this entire podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>What did you? I remember what I wore? What did

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<v Speaker 1>you wear? You would mean jeans in a nice top,

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<v Speaker 1>like every single girl in the world. Literally, I wore

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<v Speaker 1>jeans in a nice top to it. What do you tonight?

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<v Speaker 1>Jean's in a nice top. I just wanted to look

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<v Speaker 1>you unique and stand up. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Firstly, I love that we now know that they're at

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<v Speaker 2>group audition phase for the next season of The Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very interested to find out what they're actually doing

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<v Speaker 2>for this coming season because I think after the absolute

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<v Speaker 2>dumpster fire that were ratings last year. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think the bachelorrett is going ahead, so the Bachelor

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<v Speaker 2>Stool is. But there's been some whispers that maybe they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to do a combined one. Maybe they're gonna they're

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<v Speaker 2>in a combinement, a guy and a girl as the leads.

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<v Speaker 2>So I agree with you, Brit. I remember what I wore.

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<v Speaker 2>I wore a skirt. I didn't actually wear jeans. I

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<v Speaker 2>wore a skirt and I wore and I can't remember

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<v Speaker 2>the car. I think it was like a pinky color.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wore a.

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<v Speaker 2>Navy blue tiger lily singlet that was too low for

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<v Speaker 2>me and so I had to sticky tape at to

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<v Speaker 2>my boobs. And it just reminds me of the days

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<v Speaker 2>when I used to get away with with not wearing

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<v Speaker 2>a bra and I could sticky tape tops to myself

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<v Speaker 2>and now my boobs.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at the floor. Did you wear heels or flat?

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<v Speaker 2>I would have worn sandals because I never wear heels

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<v Speaker 2>because I do not like them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very tall, yes, so I would have won.

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<v Speaker 2>I would want a skirt, like a bohemian skirt, and

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<v Speaker 2>I would have worn it. Lily top and sandals. I

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<v Speaker 2>used to be very boho in my style, so it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't gen. You didn't wear GEN your skirt, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>wore a skirt, so I wore. You're fucking gonna laugh

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<v Speaker 2>so hard, I reckon. I've got the picture somewhere, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>i'll do. I'll put it up on instage. I took

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<v Speaker 2>a selfie or a.

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<v Speaker 1>Picture in the mirror from my friend's house in Sydney

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't live I was a country on Palm Quarry,

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<v Speaker 1>so I had to come and say my friend's house

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<v Speaker 1>for the night, and I took a picture. So I

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<v Speaker 1>have a picture of what I wore. I will try

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<v Speaker 1>and find it and I will put it on the

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<v Speaker 1>stories V I wore, which is so me, all white,

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<v Speaker 1>high waisted white pants that had like a flare, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I wore a white top that was sort of

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<v Speaker 1>tucked in so it gave me like a way, so

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I looked really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>And then to top it off, which is the most bready,

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<v Speaker 2>you wore a fucking hat. Didn't you moore a hat?

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<v Speaker 1>You wore a hats pretty thing you have ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>I wore a hat like a fedora, No, like a

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<v Speaker 1>sun like a round sun hat. The group auditions are inside,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Novertel for example. Just so you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was not for some safety. It was in my

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<v Speaker 1>It was what I thought was fashion. But you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to remember this was a country girl pot McCrory that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what I was doing. But let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you something, Laura, not one other person they had

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<v Speaker 1>had on.

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<v Speaker 2>You really stood out.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my stand out. But I wore little heels,

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<v Speaker 1>but not because I wanted to wear heels, but because

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<v Speaker 1>my pants were too long. But I was like, what

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<v Speaker 1>is my I didn't know what vibes to go for

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<v Speaker 1>because ninety percent of my life as we all know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, actually wear scrubs. I didn't ever have nice

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<v Speaker 1>fancy clothes. But I was like, I can't turn up

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<v Speaker 1>in active or scrubs. I didn't want to be too

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<v Speaker 1>dressed up for a ball gown. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the happy medium? At every was definitely a Fedora.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the was a happy medium, I reckon. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what got me on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, everybody wears very different things. If you are going

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<v Speaker 2>to a Bachelor group audition, everybody rocks up some people

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<v Speaker 2>are super like super faked hand lots of makeup, perfectly

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<v Speaker 2>at styled outfit, and other people are really really casual.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a huge spectrum of what is and isn't okay,

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<v Speaker 2>But I think you nailed it, brit It is just

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<v Speaker 2>showing up and being like, very very authentic to the person, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it's not to who you are as a person,

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<v Speaker 2>to the person that you want to play on the

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<v Speaker 2>TV show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what's your character? If you want to be a villain,

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<v Speaker 1>you dress like a villain.

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<v Speaker 2>If someone works up dressed like Corella Deville, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but like that's it's what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>You get type cast and they kind of pick you

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<v Speaker 2>out from that group environment to play the characters that

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<v Speaker 2>they think you're going to be. So and the thing is,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to be like when you you I

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<v Speaker 2>think she said, do I want to stand out or not?

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously you want to stand out in some way because

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to go and be a wallflower.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not the point. But maybe that's with your personality.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you can also stand out with a story or

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<v Speaker 1>something about you or who you are or what your

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<v Speaker 1>job is that you don't have to necessarily wear like

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<v Speaker 1>head to toe sequin bodysuit to stand out. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that people, like some women who sign up for

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<v Speaker 1>The Bachelor, who go to the auditions, actually have it

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<v Speaker 1>in their head that they're going to play a certain role,

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<v Speaker 1>like they actually go in there with the intention of

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<v Speaker 1>being the villain, or do you I think it's more

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<v Speaker 1>so the case that, like they get in there, they realize, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't really mesh with the guy, that guy's not

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<v Speaker 1>really into him, and so they just kind of decide, well,

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<v Speaker 1>to get more airtime, I'll just play this character. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's changing a lot, and I think they're saying

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of reality shows the same with mass

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<v Speaker 1>I think people have clued on. Like the early days

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<v Speaker 1>back in like I guess maybe even up until yours,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe just the first three seasons and a season,

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<v Speaker 1>it was so innocent and pure and organic, and people

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know what would happen after the world of The

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor or reality TV on maps. But now people clue on.

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<v Speaker 1>They know what gets attention, they know so there are

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<v Speaker 1>definitely people that go on I think I think the

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<v Speaker 1>people that would go on The Bachelor with zero intention

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<v Speaker 1>of wanting to fall in love, but they're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>i'll go have some fun, I'll get some attention, might

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<v Speaker 1>get some followers, but usually that back Usually that backfires.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that's the thing, right, Like I wonder, like

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<v Speaker 2>what is the benefit? I know that there's that saying

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<v Speaker 2>that like all press is good press, but real negative

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<v Speaker 2>attention and we're seeing it with a Livia or Maps

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<v Speaker 2>at the moment, Like real negative attention genuinely has nothing

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<v Speaker 2>good that comes out of it. The only person that

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen transform their negativity into an incredibly positive platform

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<v Speaker 2>is someone like Abby Chatfield. Totally We're weirdly that we've

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<v Speaker 2>talked about her twice in the episode, but like she's

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<v Speaker 2>the only person who's come from reality TV background where

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen them completely transform. And not that she was

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<v Speaker 2>a villain by any means, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's the thing. Abby wasn't a villain.

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<v Speaker 2>But when it came to her and Chelsea at the end,

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<v Speaker 2>people were rooting for Chelsea in that moment, and then

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<v Speaker 2>she has completely rewritten that narrative that was pitched for her.

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<v Speaker 1>And like you said, Laura, there's not a lot I

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<v Speaker 1>think if anyone's thinking about going into these shows with

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<v Speaker 1>that intention. I would just advise you not to. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>do it going with some pure intentions.

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<v Speaker 2>Wear a fedora and like get you just wear some

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<v Speaker 2>jeans and a nice shirt, and.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, question number two, now this one.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this one's pretty polarizing, and I think that

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<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be something. It's very polarized, and there's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be some people who have some extremely strong opinions around this.

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<v Speaker 1>So and I think strong opinions can be good. All right.

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<v Speaker 2>My boyfriend is my penguin. He is an awesome guy,

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<v Speaker 2>and he is great with kids. We recently took my

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<v Speaker 2>nephew to the park where he got really dirty, and

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<v Speaker 2>my boyfriend was already going to have a shower when

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<v Speaker 2>we came back, and so he offered to just shower

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<v Speaker 2>my nephew, who is three and a half with him. Afterwards,

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<v Speaker 2>my sister said that her partner, which is my brother

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<v Speaker 2>in law, was a bit uncomfortable with it.

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<v Speaker 1>All.

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<v Speaker 2>I was honest with my boyfriend. Read the conversation I

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<v Speaker 2>had with my sister. He took it fine and said

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<v Speaker 2>he wouldn't do it again. I just now feel a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit uncomfortable with this whole thing, and the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that my brother in law's mind even went there. My

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<v Speaker 2>boyfriend would never do anything like that. I totally respect

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<v Speaker 2>them as parents and we resolved it all quickly. However,

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<v Speaker 2>it's left me feeling super icky that this even came

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<v Speaker 2>up as a conversation. What are your views on this?

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<v Speaker 2>And is it weird for a three and a half

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<v Speaker 2>year old to shower with their semi uncle.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a hard one because there's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>no right or wrong. This is going to be very

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<v Speaker 1>dependent on literally the parents, and unfortunately it is up

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<v Speaker 1>to the parents. I don't have kids, obviously, Guys, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a spoiler. I don't have kids, so it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>for me to comment from what I would feel as

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<v Speaker 1>a parent. Of course, you know your boyfriend's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to do anything otherwise you wouldn't be dating him. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, if the parents feel

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<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable with you showering with him showering with them, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that is just something you need to accept

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<v Speaker 1>and take.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, when you said there is no right and wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, the right and wrong is whatever the

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<v Speaker 2>parents think is.

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<v Speaker 1>Right and whatever else is wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand where the feelings of like hurt come from

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<v Speaker 2>because it's like, you would never.

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<v Speaker 1>You're so offended, he would never do that. Understand that.

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<v Speaker 2>I totally understand the offense. However, I think it does

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<v Speaker 2>go beyond just around like a fear of predatory behavior,

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<v Speaker 2>which obviously, like that is a huge fear that a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of parents have, and their parents do put in

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of parameters in place to make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>their kids are safe, Like that's one thing that it's

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<v Speaker 2>their responsibility to do so, regardless of the other person.

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<v Speaker 2>It's as a parent, it's your responsibility to protect your children.

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<v Speaker 2>But secondly to that, maybe being nude is also just

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<v Speaker 2>not something that they're very liberal within their household. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they don't even shower with their kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Like people approach.

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<v Speaker 2>These things incredibly differently, and I think that there just

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<v Speaker 2>has to be a respect for how the child's parents

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<v Speaker 2>want it to go down. Like in our household, could

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<v Speaker 2>I show with my nephew, absolutely, he's three and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>Would Matt shower with my nephew? Probably not.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I guess the other thing as well as is

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<v Speaker 2>children change so quickly, and other people could see the

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<v Speaker 2>three and a half year old as being like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>like he's so little. He's three and a half, but

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<v Speaker 2>three and a half year olds are super inquisitive little children.

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<v Speaker 2>They ask lots of questions. They could put you in

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<v Speaker 2>a position where you don't feel comfortable either by you know,

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<v Speaker 2>asking about your penis or asking something that's like beyond

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<v Speaker 2>the scope of what you are skilled in to have

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<v Speaker 2>that conversation with that child. So I think, like, just

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<v Speaker 2>to avoid confrontation, to avoid any uncomfortable feelings. Yes, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to get naked around somebody else's child for

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<v Speaker 2>any reason, ask the parent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it could be very different if, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys came back and he was like, oh, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just throw him in the bath, I'll watch him, that

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<v Speaker 1>might be different for the parents he was. If he

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<v Speaker 1>was on the sideline and he was just literally making

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<v Speaker 1>sure the child was safe in the bath, that could

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<v Speaker 1>be different as well. Again for the parent, that might

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<v Speaker 1>be a no go. I think you're feeling upset because

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<v Speaker 1>of the implication. I think you're upset because you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at this as in, well, how dare they not trust

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<v Speaker 1>my partner and how do they think that anything could

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<v Speaker 1>go wrong? But that's not at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>No, and I don't think it is that either. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I to be perfectly honest as a mum,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't really feel comfortable with Marley, who's two and

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<v Speaker 2>a half, having a shower with her uncle, and not

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't trust her uncle. Like I completely trust

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<v Speaker 2>both both my sister's husband and Matt's sister's husband. I

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<v Speaker 2>completely trust them both. But I also just don't want

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<v Speaker 2>Marley to be in an environment where it's normal for

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<v Speaker 2>her to be around naked older men, just other men exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>She definitely has had showers with her dad, and that's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's normal for us and in our house, But

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<v Speaker 2>do I want her to think that it's normal for

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<v Speaker 2>her to be naked around other people's husbands? Fucking absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>no way, Like yeah, and it's not so much about

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<v Speaker 2>the person, but it's reenforcing this idea around your children,

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<v Speaker 2>around consent, around like what isn't isn't normal?

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<v Speaker 1>Like it should be your.

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<v Speaker 2>Child aut at three and a half should probably find

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<v Speaker 2>it abnormal to be naked around somebody else who's also

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<v Speaker 2>naked as an adult.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's so much tied into this.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think like at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>if you are ever in this situation, don't take it

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<v Speaker 2>to personal offense because you know it comes what you

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<v Speaker 2>were trying to do came with good intention. But also

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<v Speaker 2>just understand that that parent, your sister, is trying to

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<v Speaker 2>do the absolute best thing by her children and raise

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<v Speaker 2>her children in a way that protects them and protects

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<v Speaker 2>the way that they view the world. Well, said Laura, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a hard one, isn't it, Because I think I mean, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, but it isn't because it's like I just said,

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<v Speaker 1>when I say there's no right or wrong, you're correct

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<v Speaker 1>in saying, well, there is a right and wrong, because

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<v Speaker 1>the right is just listening to the parents, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like we've just come full circle. It's unfortunately, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>it comes down to. They're the guardians, they're a family.

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<v Speaker 1>It's their choice to how they raise their child and

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<v Speaker 1>what they allowed to happen in their house. Totally something

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<v Speaker 1>you get on board.

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<v Speaker 2>With, totally, and it's not with the intention of offending.

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<v Speaker 2>You think it's the big thing to take home from this,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not with the intention. I love your partner and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Think anything negative either, Like yeah, I can understand why

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<v Speaker 2>it would be offensive, but I think, look at it

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<v Speaker 2>from the other perspective is what I would kind of

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<v Speaker 2>try and recommend in this situation. Alrightie, Question number three, Brittany,

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<v Speaker 2>this is your one okay jump on in Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So, a close girlfriend and I have been working together

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of years now. We had a work

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas party. We both got super drunk and ended out

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<v Speaker 1>evening separately playing the away game. So anyone that does

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<v Speaker 1>not the away gaming is when they get down somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>at town. I got up in the morning and headed

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<v Speaker 1>home and then proceeded to pick her up once she

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<v Speaker 1>woke up. I ended up staying at a randoms while

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<v Speaker 1>she ended up at a hotel with one of our

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<v Speaker 1>married colleagues. Now, I don't like cheaters, and I got

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<v Speaker 1>quite stern and upset at her. I believe that she

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<v Speaker 1>is part of the problem, knowingly sleeping with a married man,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it is a known thing that he does.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not telling the wife or even acknowledging him in

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<v Speaker 1>the office. Luckily, we're in completely different departments, and I

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<v Speaker 1>believe he is leaving, so I'm not worried about that.

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<v Speaker 1>My friend however, thinks it's unfair of me to judge her,

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<v Speaker 1>and the onus does not lie with her. She's basically

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<v Speaker 1>switched the narrative from ME being upset with her actions

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<v Speaker 1>to how dare I judge her? I love my friend,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think it's a fair argument on her behalf.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think she's completely turned this on me. Woo.

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<v Speaker 2>This is such a good question because this is not

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<v Speaker 2>just relative to this. It's like, if you know that

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<v Speaker 2>your friend is actively going out and seeking out a

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<v Speaker 2>relationship with a married person, are they at fault? That's like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a question that relates to so like, so many

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<v Speaker 2>people would have experienced this.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I literally in the last I guess it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>last month. I know somebody, like I guess a friend,

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily a bad friend like these, but I know somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a male and he slept in the

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<v Speaker 1>married woman and told me and I well, it just

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<v Speaker 1>came up in conversation. I got really mad and I

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<v Speaker 1>got really upset, exactly like this girl, because I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's cooked. I was like, that's someone else's relationship some

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<v Speaker 1>like and he's like yeah, but you know, like they're

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<v Speaker 1>having problems and she says is probably nearly over anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah blah blah, And I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hearing his excuses. At the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, you are knowingly breaking up someone or you're

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<v Speaker 1>contributing to it to someone else's marriage problems, and personally,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not cool for me. So I actually really resonate

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<v Speaker 1>with this question. The girl your friend is turning the

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<v Speaker 1>narrative on you because she feels guilty, and she probably

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<v Speaker 1>deep down knows that's pretty fucked. That's why she's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to shift the blame. It's what people do when they're

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<v Speaker 1>in the wrong. They always try and shift the blame

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<v Speaker 1>to make themselves feel better.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's a level of defensiveness with it, you think totally.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's interesting and I think that there's so

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<v Speaker 2>much to unpack in this. Firstly, if you are somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who's in a marriage and you've made that commitment, you're

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<v Speaker 2>an a monogamous committed you said those vows. You are

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<v Speaker 2>the person who is responsible for maintaining your relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>That is up to you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that I personally think that the sole

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<v Speaker 2>onus of like responsibility in terms of where the cheating

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<v Speaker 2>took place is on the married man, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it's on the temptation. However, does that mean that the

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<v Speaker 2>person who actively sought him out actively was the one

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<v Speaker 2>flirting and trying to get into bed with someone who's

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<v Speaker 2>a married man is absolved of all sort of moral

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<v Speaker 2>compass in this. I think it's a reflection that your

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<v Speaker 2>friend doesn't have respect for the boundaries of his relationship either.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess at the end of the day, like

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<v Speaker 2>you can't force your friend to see things the way

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<v Speaker 2>that you see things. You can't force your friend to

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<v Speaker 2>have the same morals that you have, or to view

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<v Speaker 2>things in the way that makes you feel aligned. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is something that I don't think you guys are

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<v Speaker 2>going to agree on. If she's so headstrong that she

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't feel like she's done anything wrong, then that's a

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<v Speaker 2>reflection of how she views relationships and of how she

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<v Speaker 2>views monogamy and she views other people's relationships. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think you're going to change that. I think you

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<v Speaker 2>have to accept that you view this very differently. She's

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<v Speaker 2>not sorry for it, and is that something that you

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<v Speaker 2>can overcome? Do you want to be friends with somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who actively seeks out married men, or is that such

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<v Speaker 2>a wedge that you might want to take a step

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<v Speaker 2>back from the relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think you just need to say to her, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>do what you want, but don't tell me about it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't want to know about it totally, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Do what you want, don't tell me about it, because no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not cool with it. Question though, But also, don't

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<v Speaker 1>let her put this on you. And maybe you can

0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>say that too, Maybe you can say, Look, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>come at me for having a problem with your sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>with a married man. I'm going to be displeased with

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<v Speaker 1>it every time you tell me. So let's just keep

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<v Speaker 1>the friendship as a friendship. Don't tell me when you're

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping with someone that's in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's the part of this question that's

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<v Speaker 2>actually gets so sticky is that it goes beyond just

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<v Speaker 2>sleeping with someone who's in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>It's shitting where you eat, like this is literally.

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<v Speaker 2>Your workplace and these are your work hool So I

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<v Speaker 2>guess that and that you've been brought into it, and yeah,

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 2>and you have been embroiled in this because you had

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<v Speaker 2>to pick her up.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess that there's more to this situation than

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<v Speaker 2>when it happens just in like a normal friendship and

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 2>you find out that your friend's sleeping with a married

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<v Speaker 2>man or a married woman. Whoever, in this instance, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that like you as a person have been dragged

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<v Speaker 2>into it more than you opted into it, if that

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense. But at the same time, I think like,

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<v Speaker 2>let people deal with their own shit, their own junk,

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<v Speaker 2>let them behave in a way that they want to

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<v Speaker 2>behave in and it doesn't have to reflect on you.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you decide where your boundaries lie with that person.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to maintain the friendship? Does it make

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<v Speaker 2>you frustrated? If you don't want to hear about it,

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<v Speaker 2>then exactly what Britt said, tell them like, I'm so

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 2>not for this. I disagree with what both you are doing,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that you both have responsibilities in this

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not cool with me. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>know what would you do? Here's my question. If I

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<v Speaker 2>was single and I started hooking up with a married man,

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<v Speaker 2>what would be your opinion of me if I did that?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I would for sure it out with you. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have it out of you, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>let you. I wouldn't be happy about it. But that's

0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 1>just because I guess because I've been on the receiving end,

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 1>and I think anyone that's been in that situation where

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a relationship and your partner's doing the dirty

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<v Speaker 1>on you for you know, maybe it's once, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>a long period of time. I think it hits differently

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 1>once you've lived it. Maybe this girl's never been cheated on,

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe she's never had anyone be unfaithful to her. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess there is a level and I don't even come

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<v Speaker 1>in I'm going to say this, but there's a level

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<v Speaker 1>that might be dependent on the situation. So, for examplered percent.

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<v Speaker 2>I think cheating it or cheating is different. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that there's one brushstroke that you can be like

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<v Speaker 2>once a cheater, always a cheater, or every situation is

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<v Speaker 2>the same, Like, there are definitely different environments and situations

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 2>that need to be taken into consideration when cheating's involved.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, so I have a friend. This is going back,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean ten years now. I have a friend that

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<v Speaker 1>was cheating someone was she was single, but she was

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping with a guy that was in a very committed relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>and I never see to her, but I was like,

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 1>it's just so for fucked, Like that's how I felt inside.

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, why are you doing that? There

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 1>are so many men in the world. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>I had the conversation with her once and she said,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't explain it. There's something there, like I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>just sleeping with him because I want to have sex.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, there's just something unexplainable. And they would because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trauma bonded to have a situation. But they went

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<v Speaker 1>on to get married and have kids. Yeah, because I

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<v Speaker 1>guess what was there obviously that that person's relationship wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>right and it turned out to be a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a happy ending for the other relationship. So I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that I'm not condoning that, but I'm saying there

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<v Speaker 1>are situations where I guess, I don't want to even

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<v Speaker 1>use the word leaning. I don't know what the right

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<v Speaker 1>word is. There are situations where I guess it can

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<v Speaker 1>be more acceptable. But if you came to me and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, hey, fucking this guy that's marriage just because

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 1>he's hot, I'd be like, Laura, that's not cool. Like

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't want to know. I'd be like totally, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would probably advise you. As a friend. I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>as a friend, I'm going to advise you to stop

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 1>doing that immediately. But then if you're going to continue

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, that's completely your choice. Takes two to

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<v Speaker 1>ten go, but I wouldn't want to know about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of the big things that we've learned

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<v Speaker 2>from doing this podcast is that, like, relationships are so

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<v Speaker 2>tricky and that and not just tricky in that they're

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:06.479
<v Speaker 2>hard to navigate, but there you do a boom and

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:08.840
<v Speaker 2>where do you go to the public toilet? No, but

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 2>there are so many things that go on in a relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's hard to just black and white anything, even cheating,

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<v Speaker 2>even though we know that cheating is so detrimental to people,

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 2>it is so hurtful and damaging and like a really

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 2>fucking horrible thing to do to someone. We know that

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 2>there is nothing in life that is black and white

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 2>and is a void of that gray area. I guess

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 2>in this instance and this particular question and situation, the

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<v Speaker 2>reason why I kind of feel like your friend is

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<v Speaker 2>contributing to it more or really should assess her own actions.

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 2>It's because she doesn't care about the other person. It's

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 2>her lack of empathy for the woman who he's married to.

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 2>It's the lack of caring about her at all that

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 2>makes me think carelessly and recklessly can go in intentionally

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 2>fuck up someone's relationship when it means nothing to them,

0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 2>like it was a one night hookup, a hang and bang,

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 2>and like she just doesn't care about what that looks

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 2>like there's no remorse for it.

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, when I sort of said exactly that how I

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>felt to this guy that I know, when I was like, look,

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:10.719
<v Speaker 1>put yourself in that position, just for example, reverse it

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 1>that as in people we would know, Like you know,

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 1>I was like, if this person was cheating on you

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 1>with this person, blah blah blah, imagine how you would feel.

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 1>And he was like, yeah, you're right, He's like I

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 1>just He's like, I guess it's so it's so innocent

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 1>and you believe what they say. You're like, oh, it's

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:25.600
<v Speaker 1>coming to an end anyway, it doesn't matter. But he

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 1>was like, it does matter. I realized that I was

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>probably just accepting what they were saying. As gospel because

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 1>it suited the situation totally, and he was like, I

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 1>will never do it again. You are absolutely right, that

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 1>was not right.

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:39.560
<v Speaker 2>I think that in this instance, she's just shown that

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 2>she really has a lack of empathy for other people

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 2>and doesn't have any remorse, And that's where the frustration lies.

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 1>If Jason momoa your whole pass. If you were out

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 1>at a bar and he came up to you and

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 1>he was like, I saw you from across the room,

0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 1>you were so beautiful, never and he said, do you

0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:01.480
<v Speaker 1>want to come back to my farm? I have You

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 1>could not get into temperate.

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 2>There is nothing nobody in this world that would even

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 2>remotely make me okay.

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 1>As much as we joke about it.

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but like I've lived on the other side of it,

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:14.360
<v Speaker 2>I have cheated and I have been cheated on.

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 1>To what I said. Once you've I think, once you've

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<v Speaker 1>experienced it and it might go it might go the

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 1>other way. Some people might maybe once they have experienced cheating,

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe it makes them be cheated under again. There's no

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 1>like one size fits all for this. But for me

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 1>being on the other side, I hope to God I

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 1>never cheat on anyone. I hope there's no ever temptation

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>at any point in my life, and I don't imagine

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 1>there would be because I'm not like that. But for

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:38.280
<v Speaker 1>me it did the other thing.

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 2>It made me be so off cheatersh Well, I think

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 2>the thing with that is like some people cheat, they

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 2>get away with it, and therefore it then becomes like, well,

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 2>I can just do this. There's normal and there's no

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:50.720
<v Speaker 2>remorse and there's no empathy all that shit that I

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 2>just talked about.

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 1>But for other people, like.

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 2>When I say, and I know that even when I say, oh,

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 2>I've cheated in the past, that there will be some

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 2>people who will listen to that and be like fuck,

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 2>that's because nobody wants to admit that they've cheated in

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 2>the past. You're so put into a basket of being

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 2>like a bad person, like a leopard can't change his spots. Yeah, like,

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 2>once a cheater, always a cheater. But I guess from

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:12.359
<v Speaker 2>my personal experience is I've seen how damaging it can be.

0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 2>I've seen how hurtful it can be, and I've seen

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 2>the pain I caused somebody else by doing it, and

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:19.840
<v Speaker 2>I would never want to do that to somebody I

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 2>care about ever Again. So for me, it was like

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 2>a huge lesson that I also on the flip side

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:26.760
<v Speaker 2>of that, have been cheated on so many times as well,

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 2>and I know how fucked it is, and it wouldn't

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 2>wish it upon anyone.

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 1>And if you're going through it and we're here with

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 1>jasonma nobody, Okay, I'll just text him until I'm not

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 1>to come over them.

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:38.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I still want to have I want to

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 2>watch him. I want to see him in re alive.

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 2>I want to like rub somebody on him and like,

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:44.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, just watch him.

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:47.879
<v Speaker 1>My life mission is to try to get some form

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:50.479
<v Speaker 1>of contact with Jason Momoa for you, whether it's lying

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>you get into do me a birthday. I'll try. I'm

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:55.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, can I try to get a video from him?

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I've actually I'm not gonna lie. I already tried once.

0:34:57.160 --> 0:34:57.799
<v Speaker 1>He didn't write back.

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:00.920
<v Speaker 2>It's my birthday next week, So anyone wants to slide

0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 2>into my DMS with a birthday video from Jason Momoa

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 2>umor here for even if he was just like.

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Working out and I scooped up some sweat and the

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 1>jaff room and gave something like there's got to be

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 1>something in it. Anyway, That is it guy, That is

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 1>it from us.

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 2>But we also have an absolutely fucking cracking episode for

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 2>you next week on Tuesday. If you put it in

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:20.840
<v Speaker 2>your diaries, I want to see you all six am Tuesday.

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Next week, we are interviewing MARKA.

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Groves. I always feel bad when we do this and

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 1>we haven't interviewed the man. You know what's in casey cancels.

0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 1>The interviews booked in like a day or two. But

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 1>in case something goes wrong. I always hate like telling

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:35.360
<v Speaker 1>people what it's going to be in case something happens.

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Because he's overseas internationally, he's very popular.

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 2>So in case something does go wrong, Okay, we're supposed

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:42.720
<v Speaker 2>to be interviewing him tomorrow.

0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:44.799
<v Speaker 1>Morning at nine am our time or eight am our time.

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 2>If that goes terribly not to plan, then he won't

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:50.360
<v Speaker 2>be on the podcast and we don't really have a backup,

0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:52.400
<v Speaker 2>and we have no fucking back up. But at the moment,

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:54.560
<v Speaker 2>it is Mark Groves and he If you guys haven't

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 2>looked him up, go online. Find him on Instagram. His

0:35:57.280 --> 0:36:01.760
<v Speaker 2>instagram is Create the Love. Mark is an readible relationship expert.

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:04.799
<v Speaker 1>Well he refers to himself actually as a human connection specialist.

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:07.800
<v Speaker 1>So he's just very deep in the world of love

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 1>and lust and relationships, and he puts out heaps of

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 1>like really inspirational quotes that I also look at on

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 1>his Instagram. I've looked at him for a long time.

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:17.279
<v Speaker 1>I've followed him for a long time. He's got a

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:19.399
<v Speaker 1>million followers. A lot of you probably know about him,

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 1>but if you don't, go and look him up, because

0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I find him a really nice go.

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:26.279
<v Speaker 2>To And he's also just like he's such a modern

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 2>day philosopher when it comes to relationships and how relationships

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 2>evolve and how we navigate them. We're going to be

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 2>doing a massive deep dive, not just in relationships, but specifically.

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I think this is going to be a really great.

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Episode for our single people and also for people who

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:43.080
<v Speaker 2>maybe are like finding themselves in a tricky situation in

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 2>their current relationships and going through a bit of a

0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 2>like a all right, where is this heading?

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Where are we now? Type episode? Well, he wants to

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 1>help people love better, he wants to help them connect deeper,

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 1>communicate with intention. It's going to be something that I

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:58.439
<v Speaker 1>don't think we've spoken to somebody previously, not like him,

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 1>not like him, so I'm excited. You should get excited.

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Laurie's excited and hope he doesn't cancel him, but I

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm so fucking excited.

0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:05.879
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, guys, that is it from us, and this week

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<v Speaker 2>we hope that you've loved to ask Uncut questions. If

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 2>you have any questions for next week and you want

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 2>to slide on into our DMS, you can do so

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:15.279
<v Speaker 2>at Life Uncut Podcast. You can also come and join

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<v Speaker 2>the Juicy US Facebook discussion group, which is the Life

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Uncut Discussion Group, because that's where all the sexy stuff

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:22.399
<v Speaker 2>goes down.

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<v Speaker 1>And don't forget so tell your mum to your dad,

0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 1>tell you dog to your friends, and share the love

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<v Speaker 1>because we love love