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Speaker 1: This is a Will and Woody podcast.

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Speaker 2: Nini, You and I had a brilliant opportunity on the

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Speaker 2: weekend to interview Louis Tomlinson of former One Direction, One

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Speaker 2: Direction fame, Big name, big big name. The interview was

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Speaker 2: on a Saturday afternoon, so to do it, we're.

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Speaker 1: Professed nothing to do it. It would have definitely.

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Speaker 2: Come in if you're away on a couple's retreat.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a coincidence. I would have canceled the couple's retreat.

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Speaker 2: If if either way, either way, whether whether it was

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Speaker 2: you know, had anything to do with the favorite it

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Speaker 2: was on a Saturday afternoon or not. We decided to

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Speaker 2: send our junior producer, Analyse, and it was her birthday

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Speaker 2: as well as lined up perfectly and more importantly, Analyse,

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Speaker 2: you used to run a One Direction fan page, so

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Speaker 2: the interview meant a lot to you. Welcome back to

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Speaker 2: the studio. Analysts is going to have you in here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you for having me back. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for the opportunity to chat to Louis.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, talk to us about Saturday. So, how

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Speaker 2: does that's your birthday? How did you get into it?

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Speaker 1: I came in for a walk. You know, just like

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Speaker 1: to clear them. Mine came in for a walk, came

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Speaker 1: into the studio to go for a walk. I actually did,

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Speaker 1: what do you mean? So I walked from home to

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Speaker 1: the studio.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And then when it got a toasty, drove home because

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Speaker 1: I left my car here the night before. And then

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Speaker 1: you really are going in the decent.

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Speaker 2: You came into work, got a toasty, drove your car home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then just prepped pretty much started started glamb

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Speaker 1: at like a glam glam started about like two thirty three,

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Speaker 1: you mean physically prepping, yeah, and notes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, both, it was makeup and hair and all that. Yeah, yeah, extraordinary. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: so that's a zoo for a zoom enginew.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and did I slow.

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Speaker 4: Actually you sent the team a photo of yourself.

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Speaker 1: You're very dressed up, looking very glammed up. As you said,

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Speaker 1: how are you feeling before like the zoom connected. Well,

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Speaker 1: so digital producer Kate was also here and she pretty

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Speaker 1: much had to take me through like a meditation because

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Speaker 1: I was like I was buzzing. I was like I

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Speaker 1: was so excited. I was like shaking, but I was

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Speaker 1: like breathing fast. But then I was like like I

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Speaker 1: was all over the place. I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I'm about to speak to Louis. I was like I couldn't.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't like get my words out. And I was

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Speaker 1: even just talking to Kate and I was like, Kate,

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Speaker 1: good thing we're not chatting? Is this interview? Because you

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Speaker 1: know things, my words aren't coming out?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 2: And kV here, Yeah, you're glammed up to the mines.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we were like looking really good. She's not even

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Speaker 1: on camera and she climbed up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, you left your cart work, all the

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Speaker 2: details a tasty. Let's get into it, shall we.

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Speaker 3: Are you ready?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: It was your birthday and Saturday as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was my birthday.

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Speaker 2: You absolutely sent it the night before as well, went.

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Speaker 3: As well.

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Speaker 1: We kept it, we kept it light. We go.

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Speaker 2: This is you interviewing one of the people you idolize,

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Speaker 2: Louis Thomins, and you haven't heard it yet.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually really nervous to hear it.

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Speaker 2: All Right, here we go.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited for this. I'm gonna be completely honest,

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Speaker 1: I'm freaking nervous. I'm so nervous, nervous. This is my

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Speaker 1: first interview and I'm like, it's with someone who I

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Speaker 1: literally grew up like idolizing. I'm like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I'm a little bit speechless.

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Speaker 4: Show that's cool. You'll you'll be good, mine, You'll be good.

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Speaker 1: Amazing. Well, I'm very excited. Amazing, perfect, perfect, Well, shall

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Speaker 1: we crack straight into it then? Amazing? Well, Louis, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for joining me. Will and Woody, who

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Speaker 1: I work with, were very very very kind by sending

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Speaker 1: me down because they knew how much of a big

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Speaker 1: fan I was of yours. So I wanted to start

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Speaker 1: off by asking you, I know this is a bit

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Speaker 1: of a road question, but do you believe in signs?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Now, I don't. I ate to burst your bubble.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I should have lied and said, yeah, eh.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I might change your mind, though, I

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Speaker 1: think I'm gonna change it. Okay. So today's my birth birthday,

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Speaker 1: So happy birthday. Thank you, it's my birthday. I'm it's

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Speaker 1: the twentieth of July. On the twenty third of July.

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Speaker 1: One direction was formed. Correct when you guys, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to cast your mind back to when you guys did

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Speaker 1: video diaries back in the days. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: video diaries in response and like ask questions, and I

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Speaker 1: in my brain was going to send it to you guys.

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Speaker 1: Obviously it didn't quite get there. You're lost, unfortunately. But

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Speaker 1: for your birthday on the twenty fourth of December, I

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Speaker 1: actually sang you happy birthday one year. Yeah, I've got

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Speaker 1: a little bit of audio to show you this beautiful,

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Speaker 1: amazing here we go and birthday, thanks Louis. Are you

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Speaker 1: just found out? So happy birthday, Louis, Happy birthday to you.

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Speaker 1: You live, you look your monkey.

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Speaker 4: And two can you hear it?

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Speaker 1: Say a massive happy birthday, twenty second birthday and I'd

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Speaker 1: like to congratulate you to get it.

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Speaker 4: That's my brother Fletcher, and I just think it's a great.

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Speaker 3: Job you've got so far well done.

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Speaker 1: With your life and have a birthday. It was your

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Speaker 1: twenty second birthday and today's my twenty second birthday.

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Speaker 4: So the stars are.

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Speaker 1: They're a lined. It's all it's all meant to be.

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Speaker 1: It's all meant to be. But I wanted to ask you,

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Speaker 1: have you when you were first getting into like music

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Speaker 3: I think for me, it's probably most commonly in my

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Speaker 3: not I don't really want to single anyone actus. I've

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Speaker 3: been looking off to work with a lot of great people,

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Speaker 3: but especially when you're in the room with someone who's

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Speaker 3: it's and especially obviously as a songwriter myself, that that's

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Speaker 4: So yeah, probably one of the many songwriters I've worked.

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Speaker 1: With, I love that. And it's kind of crazy that

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Speaker 1: to you for your for your lyrical abilities and amazingness,

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Speaker 1: and it kind of leads me into like, obviously your

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Speaker 1: has it been touring from like with four other guys

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Speaker 4: It's it's been amazing.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, this is this has been the best year I

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Speaker 4: I've really really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the process is obviously different from touring with

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Speaker 4: Bit different totally.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I can't complain it's it's been absolutely amazing.

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Speaker 3: Are you gonna come down to on it shows?

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Speaker 1: I would love to come down to a show, like

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm planning on getting some tickets to the Tuesday

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Speaker 1: pre COVID, But then all the lockdowns happened and obviously,

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Speaker 4: Well, well, it was a bittersweet in a way because

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Speaker 3: It was frustrating because I wanted to carry on doing

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Speaker 3: from because for years, you know, I've been wondering what

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Speaker 3: it just gave me a taste and a better understanding

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, And like now you're in this area where

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Speaker 1: you're by yourself now, like touring by yourself. I have

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Speaker 1: to say, have you got any more perks in comparison

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Speaker 3: I see ye, but yeah, you're right, the perks might

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Speaker 1: Really, so now you get the best hotel room every

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Speaker 1: single time. Oh my god, that's heaven. That's absolute heaven

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Speaker 1: in your dressing room. Speaking of, do you have anything

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Speaker 3: To be fair, there's some random random stuff on there,

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Speaker 4: Just yeah random. I should probably ever think about what you.

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Speaker 1: Make the most of it. I reckon you should milk it,

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Speaker 1: like you know, get some like fresh cakes in there or.

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Speaker 4: Something fresh cakes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll make you some cook I'm a good cook.

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Speaker 4: Not not not specifically.

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Speaker 3: I mean we all kind of getting a little foodle

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Speaker 4: Yea, but nothing too specifically, a little like one, two

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Speaker 1: I love that. And so earlier you were saying, how

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Speaker 1: like you've come into your songwriting and obviously you you

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Speaker 1: were one of the people who had out of the

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Speaker 1: when you're in one direction, who had the most song credits,

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Speaker 1: Like when in terms of like writing, you've obviously written

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Speaker 1: your last album as well, Walls. How has it been

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Speaker 1: in terms of like where were you draw inspiration from now?

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Speaker 1: In comparison to when you were in One Direction?

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Speaker 3: I think writing for one, it was very very different.

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Speaker 3: It was very It wasn't that it was super specific,

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Speaker 3: it's kind of easier to kind of have this like

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Speaker 3: the thing is about being a solo artist that you're

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Speaker 3: overthinking every lyric, every melody, everything, whereas of course you

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Speaker 3: were you were conscious of that in the band, but

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Speaker 3: it was it's just a slightly different feeling.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. Have you ever gotten to like the last stages?

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Speaker 1: Like with Wolves, did you ever get like to the

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Speaker 1: last ages? And you had like that one lyric when

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Speaker 1: you're like nap that needs to change guys, that just

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Speaker 3: That's that's a difficult one as well, because there's also

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Speaker 3: that's another thing. It's very easy to be over analytical

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Speaker 1: I love that. That's really beautiful and like get that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'm so I'm so blessed to have such

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Speaker 4: So to say that you were a part of it

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Speaker 1: Oh no, thank you, And honestly, like, it's really nice

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Speaker 4: For definitely that sounds for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, perfect, all right? First one, do you keep your

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Speaker 1: Yeah, love that. What do you do to keep yourself

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Speaker 4: I'm answering now or I'm answering as me and the band.

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Speaker 1: or you can do then and now?

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Speaker 4: Or what what?

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Speaker 2: What? What?

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Speaker 1: What? What? What?

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Speaker 4: What? Was the question? What do I do on tour boards?

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Speaker 3: You can't?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Modern technology?

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Speaker 1: But it was the thought that mattered. It was the

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Speaker 4: Is what's going to happen?

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Speaker 3: Come to the show whenever you get the chance, I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, Okay, it's a deal. It's a deal.

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Speaker 1: I'm coming. I'm gonna be the girl with the sign

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Speaker 1: I love that. Thank you so much. Hey, Louis, this

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Speaker 4: Thank you for your time. And by the way, you

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I had a few moments where

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I really really appreciate that. That's

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Speaker 1: honestly the sweetest thing. Here more of the boys on

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