1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Two Good Sports would like to acknowledge the traditional owners 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: of the land on which we record this podcast. That 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: will rundery people. This land was never seated, always was, 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: always will be. Hello and welcome to two Good Sports 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: Sports news told differently. 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: I'm Georgie Tourney and I'm Abbe Jelmy and George. What 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: a week it's been. 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: What a week. On today's show, Laroha Rubiales and the 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: reckoning for Spanish football. Just how a kiss unmasked the 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: ugliness of the beautiful game and what it all means, 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: what it all means. There's so many developments on this 12 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: we take you through each and everything that happened. 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: It's going to be a feature film. It really has 14 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 2: to be. 15 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 3: The dramas the twist that turned the starving mother in 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 3: a church. There are layers, There are so many layers. 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,959 Speaker 3: But more the point, we want to break down how 18 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: such a powerful man at the head of a massive 19 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: institution has tumbled and what it all means now But 20 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: for now headlines headline one every time, every time, every 21 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 3: time I watched the Swans, the Swans of last two 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: every what those are the dulcin tones of Robbie Williams 23 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 3: arguably one of the best Grand Final performances of all time, 24 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: and giving his feedback after the Swans were beaten by 25 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: the Blues because he's a carltonman, George, what do you mean? 26 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 2: He's a Carlton manal known fact. 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: Of course, he gave the stellar performance in the pink 28 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 3: suit at last year's Grand Final. Michael Foster smuggled his 29 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 3: way into the mcg and just gave mcguernsey and he went, 30 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: I like you, you're a rule breaker. I'm a bluesman 31 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: and has for some reason decided he's going to upload 32 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 3: that video about the Swans just dragging them after the 33 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 3: performance in last year's Grandfather But. 34 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: That kind of genius that's led the Blues to this 35 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: final series. As someone who hasn't watched like that much 36 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: AFL growing up, I do not see Carlton as a 37 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: winning team except for now. I don't see them winning. 38 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: I don't know how they do this, but now I'm 39 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: calling them flag favorite. 40 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: And more the point people didn't during the year there 41 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: was calls for Michael Voss to stand down. Everyone was going, 42 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: oh my god, we're in the premiership window and why 43 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 3: isn't this happening? 44 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 2: And they've just turned it around, so. 45 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: They're one of the stories. But the main talking point 46 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: from the AFL this weekend happened in the huge Melbourne 47 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: clash with Collingwood the Pies one. Melbourne has to face 48 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: Carlton next week. But it was a moment between Braidon 49 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: Maynard and Angus Brayshaw that has everyone talking. This was 50 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: Simon Goodwin. 51 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: After the game. That'll be sorted out during the week, 52 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: but we've got a pretty shattered player in there. Yeah, look, 53 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: you can only go by the facts. He jumped off 54 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 2: the ground and knocked the guy out. 55 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: So Maynard has been sent directly to the tribunal for 56 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 3: an unprecedented intervention. That was by new AFL footy boss 57 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: Laura Caine, so she's gone. This needs to go straight 58 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 3: to the tribunal, which usually means a minimum of three 59 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 3: weeks suspension. And this has Puris up in arms, essentially 60 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 3: saying what happened and the incident will describe it. He 61 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: went up for the smother braced and in the brace 62 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 3: because he was in mid air, knocked him and Angus 63 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 3: Brayshaw has been concussed so much so that he's in 64 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 3: questions for the rest of the final series awful for Brayshaw, 65 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 3: and Maynard rocked up at his house with a bottle 66 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: of wine to say sorry because they played geniors together. 67 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: But this is such a pivotal moment in AFL going 68 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 3: forward because if this was a football action, he was 69 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: going to smother the ball and then he braced in 70 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 3: mid air. There was nothing when you watch, there's no 71 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 3: malicious intent. There's really nothing else you can do. He's 72 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: just Maynard's a sort of player that just gives his all. 73 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: Should this result in his suspension and that he misses 74 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: finals football for this? 75 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: Yes, yes it should. It's so interesting to me. 76 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: Should it should? 77 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: It's so interesting to me this debate. I think that 78 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: you say that it's a football act, yep, I think 79 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: that he has He could have done so many different 80 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: things there. He just made wrong choice. So therefore it 81 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: has to be careless, it has to be reckless, and 82 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: so therefore there has to be a suspension. So I 83 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: think both of their finals footy is over see. 84 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: I just think when you watch something in slow motion, 85 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: so many times you think, oh, could have done this. 86 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: Could in the moment you just brace for impact. 87 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: But then the impact that impact and the consequences of 88 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,119 Speaker 1: that impact has to be taken into account. Laura Kine, 89 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: the new football boss, would not be getting involved in 90 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: this if there was not going to be a penalty, 91 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: or if the AFL did not want there to be 92 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: a penalty. 93 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: And unfortunately it's a contact sport. 94 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: But that's something that the purists they're going to have 95 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: to get over a little bit. You've got to give 96 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: some leeway here. The AFL is wide open for all 97 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: of these class actions that are happening right now. They 98 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: have to be seen as taking this seriously. And I 99 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: just do not see how Maynard can play again for 100 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: the Pies this year. 101 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: It's a watch and weight on this one. 102 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: We have so many experts and former players coming out 103 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: and saying there is no way that he can get 104 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 3: suspended for it. But like you said, George, if the 105 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: game is going to be seen to be taking CT 106 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: and concussion seriously, there needs to be a change in 107 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 3: the style of play and maybe this becomes the turning point. 108 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: Headline two. 109 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 3: The monkey is back and the beanie is on Georgia's 110 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 3: head because the Broncos have finally beaten Storm. 111 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to the finals, baby, Yes, the last time that 112 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 1: the Brisbane Broncos defeated the Melbourne Storm in Brisbane. Reese 113 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 1: Walsh was seven years old. Now he scores a try 114 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: to help us to a twenty six nil victory and 115 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: make it straight through to the prelim final. The Penrith 116 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: Panthers also massive win. I think was thirty two six. 117 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: Very dominant display against the Warriors, the Raiders and the Sharks. 118 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: They were eliminated in really tight games. But the Brisbane 119 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: Broncos we're coming home. But Ryan Pappenhausen, Oh, it was awful. 120 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 3: There's some stories in sport where you just go some 121 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 3: things aren't fair. 122 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So for context, dear listener, Ryan Pappenhausen, in 123 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: his third game back after four hundred and five days 124 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: away from the game that he loves so much, the 125 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: Melbourne Storm Superstar Fullback, he goes down. It was friendly fire. 126 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: A sofa. 127 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: Solomona, who was the biggest man I have ever seen 128 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: in real life, fell onto Pappenhausen's ankle broke it. 129 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: It was awful scenes. 130 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: You just knew straight away just his reaction. He was screaming, 131 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: he was crying, he was bawling on the ground because 132 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: his whole career was flashing through his mind, which is 133 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: what he would have had every single day for the 134 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: last year by trying to get back from a shattered 135 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: kneecap was his last injury, and now to have such 136 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: a bad break on the ground at the time, people 137 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: were calling it a compound fracture. That is not the case, 138 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: which is great news. However, he still had six screws 139 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: and a plate put in to his ankle in an 140 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: operation over the weekend, but hopefully he may be back 141 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: training or starting his rehab at the end of January, 142 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: which is massively so distraught, he was so sad it was. 143 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: It was honestly just such an awful moment, and the sport. 144 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: It was just a reminder that sport can be so 145 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: cruel because you'd be so unlucky to have one of 146 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: those injuries, let alone two potentially career ending injuries in 147 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: the space of two and a half years. 148 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: We know the storm more wonderful in terms of the 149 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 3: club as an institution supporting their players and they'll get 150 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 3: around him, but our thoughts are certainly with him, and. 151 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: You just you don't like to see it. It's awful, awful. 152 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: Headline number three A little Hailey Rasso, you star, the 153 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: ribbons are flying. Why wouldn't it be? 154 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 3: Grandma would be so proud because she and Sam Kerr 155 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 3: have been nominated for the Bell and Door. And the 156 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: question is is this finally, finally the year for Sam Kerr. 157 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 3: She's been nominated five times, five times. 158 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: I don't think it is to. 159 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: Burst all of our bubbles. 160 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: She obviously is our favorite player here in Australia, she's 161 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: one of the most favorite players overseas as well. But 162 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: I just think it's again not her time. There are 163 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: so many stars in women's football. We know her because 164 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: she's ours. I don't think she's going to do it. 165 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: How dare you? 166 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: I know it? 167 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 2: And thirty on Sunday George Parade. 168 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Sam, I'm sorry better than that, but it's 169 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: great to see Rastlom nominated. 170 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: He was about to say exciting times headline ful. 171 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 4: Honestly, thank you to the people who didn't believe in me. 172 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 4: Like a month ago I won a five hundred title 173 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 4: and people said I went stop at that. Two weeks 174 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 4: ago I won a thousand title and people were saying 175 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 4: that was the biggest it was going to get. So 176 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 4: three were like three weeks later, I'm here with this 177 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,239 Speaker 4: trophy right now. 178 00:08:59,679 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 3: So. 179 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 4: You know, I've tried my best to carry this for Grace, 180 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 4: and I've been doing my best. So honestly, to those 181 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 4: who thought who were putting water on my fire, you're 182 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 4: really adding gas to it. And now I'm really burning so. 183 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: Bright right now, the brightest star maybe in world sport, 184 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: but definitely in tennis at the moment, ten year old 185 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: Coco Gough, Is. 186 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: That not one of the most American speeches you've ever heard? 187 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 3: Though, I'm going to take this with grace, but I'm 188 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 3: burning so bright right now. 189 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: You tried to squash me, but here I am. But 190 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: good on her, good on. 191 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 3: And there's a beautiful, beautiful footage of her when she 192 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 3: was knee high to a grasshopper dancing at the US Open. 193 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: I know, and now she's one man, and now she's 194 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: won it. 195 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 3: And there's something about those moments and you get flashbacks 196 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 3: of little ash Barty with a little trophy and those 197 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 3: chubby cheeks where it's been their dream and with tennis, 198 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 3: it has to have been their dream for so long, 199 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 3: and she finally did it. 200 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: God, I miss Ash Barty, but yes, Cocoa Goff defeated 201 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: Arena Sabalanka in the US Open final. She was down 202 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: a set, she fought back to win the next to 203 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 1: in two hours and six minutes. And she is only 204 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: the third American team to win the US Open, after 205 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: Tracy Austin and a little known name siRNA Williams. 206 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 2: Whatever happened to her? 207 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, God, she never really went on to do that much. 208 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 2: Savlenka her consolation prizes. She's number one in the world. 209 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: Oh yes, that's right, she is. And she is number one, 210 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: and she's also and I mean this with all due respect, 211 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: she is a beast. I saw her win the Australian Open. 212 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: Her career is fine. She'll be sad after this. She 213 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: do's herself off and she'll be back. 214 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: As we go to air, we don't want to give 215 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: away when we record very secret, very secret. But ah, 216 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 3: if the men's final is happening, we're not ignoring it. 217 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 3: It's just happening right now. Djokovic wants to fight for 218 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 3: the right to party. If you've seen that grab, If 219 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 3: you haven't, just google it. It's very interesting. But the 220 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: fight is happening right now. 221 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: Gold be interesting up against Medvedev. I don't think Medvedev 222 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: has the legs. We'll play back next week. 223 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 5: I think he's won. 224 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 2: Jokovic, shut up, he won in record time. 225 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: Producer James sid James come through with the breaking Okay, 226 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna now play the fight to the I'm gonna 227 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: find it. 228 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: Fight for the right to party. It's happening right now. 229 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: You gotta fight for all right to far. 230 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: To understand football in Spain is to understand life in Spain. 231 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: That is how seriously all Spaniards take their national game. 232 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,479 Speaker 1: Football dictates the mood of the nation, the economic prosperity 233 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: of the nation. Indeed, you could say it even reflects 234 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: the politics of the nation. That is no exaggeration. Titanic 235 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: Lalliga teams think the Spanish EPL. It is a gigantic league, 236 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: but for listeners who may not know about the football world, 237 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: LaLiga is like the English Premier League. Barcelona and Real 238 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: Madrid are two teams that belong to that league. They 239 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: have a combined worth of eleven billion US dollars. That's 240 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: a trillion Australian dollars. Don't fact check me, but that's 241 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: basically the conversion. So they represent two of the top 242 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: three most valuable sporting clubs on Earth. So it may 243 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: sound dramatic, but it could actually be an understatement to 244 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: say that Spaniards live for football and by default for 245 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: their favorite players, even for their mediocre ones. 246 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,479 Speaker 2: Enter Louis Rubiales. 247 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: He was born in the Canary Islands in nineteen seventy seven. 248 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: Rubiales grew up loving soccer, as the majority of his 249 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: country does. It took him a while to find his feet, 250 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: though jelmy. As a professional player. He only made it 251 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: to the second div I think in the latter stages 252 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: of his twenties, and most of his career. 253 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: Was played there. 254 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: Before his side, Levante was promoted to the top tier 255 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: La Liga in two thousand and four. He played fifty 256 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: three matches for them there from four to eight Interesting 257 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: while he was in that team, he led industrial action 258 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: against that club over unpaid wages. So he was leading 259 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: a strike that union spirit stuck and after he retired 260 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine at the age of thirty two, 261 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: he became the president of the Spanish Footballers Association. In 262 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: this role, Rubiali's made very powerful friends both on and 263 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: off the field. It led him to his current role spoiler. 264 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: His previous current role head of the rf EF, the 265 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: Spanish football Federation. In May twenty eighteen, he marked himself 266 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: really as a president who was unafraid to make big 267 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: decisions at big moments. He fired the men's national coach 268 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: two days before the twenty eighteen World Cup they failed 269 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: to make the final sixteen. He's moved Spanish competitions to 270 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia for big, big paydays, despite the country's poor 271 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: human rights record. He's also the vice president former vice 272 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: president of UEFA, the governing body for European football. For context, 273 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: some argue that you Wafer has even more power than FIFA. 274 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: So all that that means is he is a monumental 275 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: figure in the game of football, not just in Spain 276 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: but over the world. During his tenure, Rubiales was accused 277 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: of misusing federation funds for private parties, making illicit recordings 278 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: of confidential conversations, and having a general apathy towards women's football. 279 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: Because you speak about rubial as being someone who wasn't 280 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 3: afraid to make bold moves and change coaches before international tournaments, well, 281 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 3: the plight of fifteen female players who wrote a letter 282 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 3: to the federation saying, hey, this juge builder. We don't 283 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 3: want to play for him. He's affecting our mental and 284 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: our physical wellbeing. Some of the complaints were as yuck 285 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 3: as the fact that they weren't allowed to lock their 286 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: doors while on camps, but extended to the fact that 287 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: he wasn't playing the rotations as highly as they would 288 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 3: have liked, so different weren't getting. 289 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: Off the sties. 290 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: It's like it's stems both on field. They had on 291 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: field issues with him in terms of tactics. They had 292 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: bulk off field issues with w Wilda in terms of 293 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: how he was running the team and the expectations that 294 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: he had for them. 295 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: And Rubielle said, do you know who we like? Wilda? 296 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: So Vilda stays. 297 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 3: So twelve of those players never featured in the World Cup. 298 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: George, Yeah, twelve of them. That's massive. And despite all 299 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: of that, that's a brief backstory. We've tried to truncate 300 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: it as much as possible because there's so much to 301 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: talk about. But despite all of that, a month ago, 302 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: no one outside of football circles really knew the name 303 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: Lewis Rubiali's a kiss though on a stage in our 304 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: own backyard, Sydney changed everything. Jeremy paint the scene for me. 305 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: Spain has just won the Women's World Cup one nil 306 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: over England. They go to accept their trophies. You and 307 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: I are watching, We're watching, the world is watching. It's 308 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: a wonderful moment at the end of a tournament that 309 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: to this point, particularly in Australia, has been oh soo 310 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: feel good. You're excited about the moment for women's sport, 311 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: You're excited about the viewership in the numbers. Then enters 312 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: onto the stage, a stage that has our own indignitaries, 313 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: including Anthony have an easy Jenny Homoso for context. 314 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 3: Homoso is a thirty three year old forward. She's represented 315 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: Spain from seventeen years old. Wow, that was back in 316 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 3: two thousand and six. She has a decorated career with 317 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 3: top Spanish European clubs. Are talking Barcelona PSG and also 318 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 3: Athletico Madrid. 319 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: This is not her first rodeo. 320 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 3: She gets onto the stage and there is a moment 321 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 3: that is broadcast that everyone just goes gosh, that's uncomfortable 322 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: because Rubiellas can be seen with both hands either side 323 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 3: of Jennie Homoso's head where he kisses her and it 324 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 3: just felt wrong. Also, during the celebrations of that triumph 325 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: for Spain, Rubiellas can be seen grabbing his crutch yep 326 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 3: in celebration. 327 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: With the Queen of Spain not far away next to. 328 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: Her sixteen year old daughter. 329 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is the sort of bloke that we're 330 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 3: dealing with. That at a women's sporting game or any 331 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 3: sporting game, the way that he celebrates his by grabbing 332 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 3: his generals sounds real. 333 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 2: Stand up. 334 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 3: The world watches that and goes, oh, that was uncomfortable. 335 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 3: That was a bit weird, And in a live stream 336 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 3: after the game, Jenny Moso says, yeah, I didn't like. 337 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: It, but what are you gonna do? Yeah. 338 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 3: The Spanish Football Federation then the next day brings out 339 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 3: a statement saying Homoso said, oh, you know, it was consensual. 340 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 3: It was basically it was swept up in a moment 341 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 3: and what you saw was joy and celebration. 342 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: But definitely mutual joy and celebration. That's how it was painted. 343 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: That is what the statement said. 344 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 3: Turns out Jenny Moso didn't consent to any statement and 345 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 3: they were not her words. 346 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: That's right. 347 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 3: Rubiales initially George apologized for the kiss. This is really 348 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: important because initially after he described his critics as idiots, 349 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 3: he said there was a conversation that took place where 350 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 3: the kiss was consented to. He also really tried to 351 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 3: stress the fact that Jenny picked him up. 352 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: That was really weird. 353 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: There were so many articles that I saw at the 354 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: time being like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, it has 355 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: to be consensual. Jenny actually embraces him and lifts him up, 356 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: so therefore it's a green light. 357 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 3: Essentially, he sort of gave one of those stories that 358 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: was like, I'm sorry if I offended you, but I'm 359 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 3: not sorry for what I done. So it was done 360 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 3: without any ill intention in a moment of highest exuberance. 361 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 3: What we saw was a natural, normal, no outside commotion, 362 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 3: like we just you know, and described it as I 363 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 3: kissed her the way that I. 364 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: Would kiss my daughters. Yeah. Not great. 365 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 3: Back home in Spain, one hundreds protest against Rubala's essentially 366 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 3: having seen the moment, being embarrassed about the way that 367 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 3: it's been spoken about internationally, saying that he needs to 368 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 3: stand down. Joining that chorus is the Spanish Prime Minister 369 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 3: who says, I think the apology mister Rubalees has given 370 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 3: was insufficient. I'd say it wasn't adequate, and that he 371 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 3: should keep taking further steps. 372 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's pretty big. We should stress that 373 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: imput from the government of Spain that they are getting 374 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: into this, because I think it's important to note that 375 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: some of the commentary around what's happened, and especially in 376 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: the fallout from the kiss, the unsolicited kiss, is that, oh, 377 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: it's cultural, that's what happens in Spain. They're just different 378 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: from us. They get very excited, that's what it is. 379 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: But I think that that is a cop out, and. 380 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 3: It is because gratefully the world is talking about this, 381 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 3: and there are Spanish journalists and Spanish football journalists that 382 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 3: are female and or male saying no, and you might 383 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 3: see back and go is that cultural? Is that just 384 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 3: how it is? Yes, they might be more affectionate than 385 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 3: some Western cultures, but to be grabbed like that and 386 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 3: kissed like that when it wasn't consensual in any context, 387 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 3: particularly in a workplace. It's an extraordinary workplace, but it 388 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,479 Speaker 3: was her workplace where he is her boss's boss. 389 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: Consent has layers to it. 390 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 3: Yes, and our gut feeling of this isn't right, was right, 391 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 3: because Jennihimoso then came out with the help of her union, 392 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: essentially with a long statement that she released on the 393 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 3: twenty fifth of August on Twitter saying I've been disrespected. 394 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 3: I did not consent this. People are saying this on 395 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 3: my behalf. I felt violated. This is not okay. 396 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: And ironically that's the same union that Rubiales used to lead. 397 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: So that is how powerful this figure is in the 398 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: context of Spanish football. He has been at the helm 399 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: of very powerful institutions within it. He's been on the 400 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: boards of a million things. So for that institution itself, 401 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: the system to back the player instead of him. 402 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: Is huge, you say, the system. FIFA then comes out 403 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 3: and opens a case against Ribale's. 404 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 1: Because at this point Rubiali still has a. 405 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: Job very much. So yeah. 406 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 3: He then comes out in one of the most extraordinary 407 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 3: press conferences you'll ever see and chance I will not resign. 408 00:20:54,840 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 6: Nod no boiimid no no boy me. 409 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: Seems to be quite a bit of applause there at 410 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: the end of it, so obviously his speech, this spectacular speech, 411 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: was well received by the people in the room. 412 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 3: The speech went on to say a social assassination is 413 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 3: taking place. I'm ready to be vilified to defend my ideals. 414 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 3: I don't deserve this manhunt that I've been suffering. 415 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: Suffering suffering interesting choice of words, yep. 416 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 3: And the Spanish government later said they're beginning legal proceedings 417 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: against Rubalas, and the Spanish secretary says they want this 418 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: to be Spanish football's me too moment, So the big 419 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 3: dogs are getting involved. You've got FIFA, you've got the government, 420 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 3: and all through this, Rubales is standing there saying I 421 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 3: didn't do it. In the meantime, eighty one Spanish players, 422 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 3: including Homoso's triumph of teammates, have all said that they 423 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 3: won't play for the country. 424 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: And now a movement is growing that the Spanish government 425 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: themselves seem to be embraced, let alone the Spanish people 426 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: and all the football fans around the world. Their reactions 427 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: to it have largely been in support of Jenny Homoso, 428 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: but still not enough so that Rubials was like, yeah, 429 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: you're right, guys, not good from me, so sorry. 430 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 3: FIFA suspends Rubalas for ninety days and says that you're 431 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 3: not all out of contact Jenny Homoso's. 432 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: Team, which is wild for FIFA to be getting into 433 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: wars when it comes to, you know, moral high ground. 434 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 3: Oh hey, Wilda then goes, oh no, oh no, I've 435 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 3: seen applauding this bloke at a press conference where he 436 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 3: said he's going to pay me five hundred thousand euros 437 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 3: instead of one hundred and forty thousand euros that I 438 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 3: was on and has offered me a new job. 439 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: This doesn't smell good. 440 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 3: I need to come out and essentially say I regret 441 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 3: deeply that the victory of the Spanish women's football team 442 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 3: has been harmed by the inappropriate behavior of up until 443 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 3: now top leader Robales. 444 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 2: So he comes out and says, oh, I don't know 445 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 2: how I feel that. 446 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: And there's layers to that as well, right, because Wilda 447 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: and Rubyale have had each other's backs, but the best 448 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: part of a decade, like as soon as Juge Wilda 449 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: took up the coaching job of La Roha in twenty 450 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: fifteen or so Rubiali's becomes president in twenty eighteen, they've 451 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: always kind of been like, don't you worry, I've forgot you. Yeah, 452 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: I've got you. So there are layers to this. So 453 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: for Wilda to come out and say, oh, yeah, actually 454 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: maybe a bit inappropriate, huge. 455 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 3: When the bloke had just very publicly offered you a 456 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: massive pay rise and lauded you and had you back 457 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 3: and supported you to that moment. 458 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 2: This is the bit. 459 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 3: That made morning television hell television around the world. His 460 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 3: mum decided to lock herself in a church and go 461 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 3: on our hunger st went on a hunger strike, and 462 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 3: Jess said, my son. 463 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: My poor son, Louis, my poor son. 464 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 3: Jenny, tell the truth. I am not eating until this 465 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 3: is done. And can you believe it? Three days later 466 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 3: she was taken the hospital by a priest. 467 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: It's honestly so unbelievable everything that has happened. 468 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 3: And yet that is the part that was spoken about 469 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 3: on breakfast television this morning. They said, Loos Robialis has 470 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 3: stood down, and someone goes, didn't his mom starve herself? 471 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 3: And that's the bit that cut through and bizarrely she 472 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: was trying to get an end to the drama and 473 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 3: my god that she perpetuated. 474 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, because all of this are further. 475 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 3: Headlines that the world can talk about and highlight of 476 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 3: going gee, this is FIFA standing him down, his mum's fasting, 477 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 3: what's happening? If he had just come out and done 478 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 3: what so many people do and paid lip service and said, 479 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 3: you know what, I've had time to reflect. I'll receive counseling. 480 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 3: The kiss wasn't right. The world goes away and the 481 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 3: pressure doesn't mount on Spanish football to need to do 482 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 3: something about this the way. 483 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: That it has. 484 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 3: But thankfully he couldn't because for whatever reason, he believes 485 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 3: so deeply in himself that he's done nothing wrong, even 486 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 3: though the victim has said, I've been vilified, You've taken 487 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 3: a moment from me that I'll never get back. This 488 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 3: isn't right, and the world's going, yeah, mate, this isn't right. 489 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 2: And then Wilda get sacked. 490 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 3: So he's claiming that he's going to defend his unfair dismissal. 491 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 5: Jeez. 492 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: It's interesting though, because I mean, now, with events that 493 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: have happened, even since that which we're about to get to, 494 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 1: it did kind of reek at the time of is 495 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: the wrong person standing down here? Is he the sacrificial lamb? 496 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: I am not defending how he has behaved in the past, Wilda, 497 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm not defending his actions. He has been a very 498 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: controversial figure for a long time with Larroha, but at 499 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: that point his whole coaching staff had already stepped down 500 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: in protest, that already said we do not support what 501 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: is going on at the Football Federation. 502 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 2: As had all of his players, but he hadn't. 503 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: But he hadn't. He was like, this is fine, this 504 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: is I am here to reap the rewards of what 505 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: I've just been able to. 506 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 2: Lead the team too. 507 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: At that time he could have been seen the sacrificial 508 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: lamb because Rubiales, yes had been stood down from FIFA 509 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: for ninety days a temporary suspension, but was the wrong 510 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: person going This morning, Jelmy, we woke up to some 511 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: pretty big news Lewis Rubiales talking to Piers Morgan announcing 512 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: he is stepping down as the president of the Football 513 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: Federation of Spain because his position has become untenable. Not 514 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: that he's necessarily sorry for the actions and everything that 515 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: he has done, but he is unable to continue in 516 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: the role because the noise around it has just become 517 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: too loud and not good for the game, the greater game. 518 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 5: You've come under ferocious pressure for three weeks now on 519 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 5: you and your family. It's been very difficult for your daughters, 520 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 5: the young girls. I can only imagine as a father myself, 521 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 5: I have a daughters, and around the age of one 522 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 5: of your girls credibly difficult. There comes a point, perhaps 523 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 5: when the pressure is just so relent relentless, that you 524 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 5: do think about what you should do with yourself and 525 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 5: your future. Many people think you should resign as president. 526 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 5: What are you going to do? 527 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 6: I love so much my daughters, and they love me 528 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 6: so so much. Time very happy, I'm very proud of them, 529 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 6: very very proud of then they are very near to 530 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 6: me about magnation, Yes, I'm going to do I'm going yeah, 531 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 6: I'm going to Yes, course I cannot continue my work. 532 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 3: If I hear one more man in power use having 533 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 3: daughters as a character reference as to why their behavior 534 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 3: is more exemplary than other people's. I am going to 535 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 3: write like I. 536 00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 1: Just it's giving Schmo. If asked Jenny, he even if. 537 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 3: He is saying I have a daughter, you have daughters 538 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 3: to preface this conversation about an unconsensual kiss is so 539 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 3: nauseating and at the crux of this entire problem. 540 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: I would say that Lewis Ribali is as far as 541 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: he is concerned. I don't know the man personally, but 542 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: I think that I can say it's safe to assume 543 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: that he would feel like he's not done anything wrong here. 544 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: It's the first time I think that he has had 545 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: true accountability to face. He felt like he was just 546 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: so excited at the time. That's how he celebrates that 547 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: he was showing his love for this team. And I 548 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: think that that's the narrative that he is going to 549 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: have to reckon with himself now that he is no 550 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: longer in this position. He's also stepped down from being 551 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: vice president of YUEFA. 552 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 2: He's also being prosecuted. 553 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Jenny and Moso has sought legal action and 554 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 3: Spanish state prosecutors have accused him of sexual assault and coercion. 555 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: Yes, and with charges at the time of this recording, 556 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: that with charges expected to be laid. Criminal charges. 557 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 3: So with that statement that we just heard comes the 558 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 3: follow up from that interview where he says, I will 559 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: defend my honor, I will defend my innocence. I have 560 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 3: faith in my future. It's a goal. The powers that 561 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 3: be have made it so difficult. I cannot continue my work. 562 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 3: This is a witch hunt. I have daughters. I'm thinking 563 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 3: of them. It's not that this is getting so loud 564 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 3: I have to step away and reflect. 565 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: There's no I don't think there's too much self reflection here. 566 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: It's him falling on his sword. But what we must 567 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: remember is the sword is of his making and also 568 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:58,479 Speaker 1: representative of a system that has, I think shown a 569 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: lot of misogyny, are very misogynistic system in Spain. 570 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 3: The irony of this whole story loop is this kiss 571 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 3: is a good thing because without the kiss, Spanish female 572 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 3: footballers had tried, as the head of FIFA had said, 573 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 3: pick your battles, push the doors. 574 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: They had picked their battles. 575 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 3: They were pushing the doors to try to convince us men, 576 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 3: as were so eloquently. 577 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: Described by Gianni Infantino, what. 578 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 3: Changes needed to be made, and twelve of them were 579 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: stood down. And now because of the world's attention on 580 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 3: this kiss, which is horrendous and we hope that justice 581 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 3: is served for Jenny Homoso, but because of it, the 582 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 3: world is looking at an institution and saying, hang on, 583 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 3: this isn't okay. And those people, the institution and the 584 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 3: buddies that all took care of each other one by 585 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 3: one have fallen from pressure from the government itself. But 586 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 3: the pressure from the government only comes when the world 587 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 3: is looking in saying what are you doing about it? 588 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: If you want to be a global game, you have 589 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: to have global eyes on you, right. And if there's 590 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: a lot of global scrutiny following this and it goes, 591 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 1: oh hang on, that doesn't add up, then could there 592 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: have been a different result here? I don't really think so. 593 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: I just think that it took a very long time 594 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: for Rubiales to step down. 595 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 3: I put this to you. Do you still feel joyous 596 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 3: about the Women's World Cup? 597 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 2: Yes? 598 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: Yes I do. I do because I hate to say 599 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: that it is a good moment. But the positives that 600 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: can be taken away from the kiss is that Spain 601 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: now has a new coach. It's a female coach, Monts Matome. 602 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: She is a former player for Spain. She had a 603 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: few caps for Spain, but she played a lot of football, 604 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: including at Levante. Ironically a lot of football, and she 605 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: knows the players very well. Apparently she has a really 606 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: good relayationship with them. I put an asterisk on her 607 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: because she was part of Wilda's regime, so she was 608 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: his deputy, so she was there throughout all of the 609 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: complaints as well. So would she have been hamstrung by 610 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: what she could have done as a deputy. I have 611 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: no doubt, but I'm hopeful that having her now as 612 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: their head coach, and hopefully she does have that good 613 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: relationship with the players, that there may be a little 614 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: bit more of a dialogue happening between those parties. So 615 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: I take that away as a positive thing. I take 616 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: away it being positive because it's raised these conversations into 617 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: the wider culture within Spain, and it's also a reminder 618 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: that yes, the Matildas have made so much ground and 619 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: it was world changing for us here in Australia, but 620 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: there's still so much to be done when it comes 621 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: to I want to say equality, but even just accountability 622 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: and belief. 623 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 3: There's a lot of commentary around not just women's football, 624 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 3: but women's sport of just playing. Why do you always 625 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 3: have to have agendas? Why do you always have to campaign? 626 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 2: Just play? 627 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 3: Hopefully this is a step towards what all female athletes 628 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 3: want to do, which is just play sport. 629 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: Jelmy, you know what, dam it is. It's time for 630 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: another fun fact. As we know you may not know, 631 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: dear listener, but the Rugby World Cup is happening right now. 632 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: Overseas in France, gelmy brace yourself for this. Did you 633 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: know that Ireland is a number one team no currently 634 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: in the world, in the world rugby standings, Island is number. 635 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 2: One, not the lie. 636 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: Do you know where the All Blacks sit? No, it 637 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: goes Ireland Spring Box, France All Blacks. 638 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 3: No wonder the kiwis have been quiet. We hadn't heard 639 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 3: much from across the ditch for a while and now 640 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 3: this makes sense? 641 00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: Yes? 642 00:33:58,720 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 2: Right? 643 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: And did you even know what's in more shocking? That's 644 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: not even our fun fact. I was just telling you. 645 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: I was just getting me an update. What's happening right now? 646 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 3: For context? I don't know what the fun fact is. 647 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 3: And George said, don't look. And I believe that was 648 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 3: the fun fact because that shocks me. 649 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: Did you know that the Rugby World Cup has one 650 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,439 Speaker 1: of the most random traditions that I have seen. They 651 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: have a ceremonial whistle that they have been using to 652 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: launch the first game of the competition for most, if 653 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: not all, editions of the World Cup. They have a 654 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: mangy old whistle from nineteen oh five. It is a 655 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 1: very important piece of supporting history. But as I apologize, 656 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: everyone who loves the gil Evans whistle? 657 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 2: But is it wooden? 658 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: It's no, it's actually it's metal, but it's rusty. 659 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 2: But is the little ball that moves around wooden? 660 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: That? I don't know that because I'm confirmed un confirmed 661 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: growth on that theme, Like I just can't. So Apparently, 662 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,280 Speaker 1: in nineteen oh five, the first rugby game but between 663 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: England and New Zealand, a Welsh referee named gil Evans 664 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: used this whistle and he used it to officiate all 665 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: of his matches. Then after that he bestowed it like 666 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 1: a baton to another Welsh referee, and then he used 667 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: it throughout his career and since then it has been 668 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 1: used since the World Cup to start the first game. 669 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,280 Speaker 1: Did you also know that this is how Bonker's tradition 670 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: is with respect? That whistle is passed around like an 671 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: Olympic torch relay and eventually goes on these travels and 672 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: eventually ends up in the host nation for the Rugby 673 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: World Cup. So just think you can't be telling me 674 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: that you have that whistle and every single person that 675 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: you meet along that journey ain't blown it? 676 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 2: Is it like the Melbourne Cup? Or you need to 677 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 2: weg gloves and only if you are a referee. Are 678 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 2: you allowed to blow on them? 679 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: Yeah? 680 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 2: I have so many questions. 681 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: It is actually and to be serious, it is revolting. 682 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 7: You're sorry, Fun fact, tradition, steep, lovely, all of those things, 683 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 7: some old hundred year old communal mouthpiece that for some 684 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 7: reason survived COVID. 685 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 2: They're still using that. 686 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: I was really drugged. You know what. It's giving rose 687 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: from Titanic. 688 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 2: And you know what the whistle was around. 689 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: That's it for our fun fact this week. That's also 690 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: for our show today. 691 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 2: It's the final whistle. 692 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,240 Speaker 3: If you will, thank you, thank you for listening to 693 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 3: Good Sports this week. 694 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 2: We better go. We've lost it. We've officially lost it. 695 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 3: We'll see you next week, or you'll hear us next 696 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 3: week however you want to play it. 697 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 2: But until then, be a good sport.