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Speaker 1: Friday the eleventh. Did anyone have a spooky day? On Tuesday?
Speaker 1: The lions Gate portal was open. I don't really know
Speaker 1: much about it, and I don't endeavor to do any
Speaker 1: more research into it, but if you did have any
Speaker 1: strange things happen, let us know. Threads is flopping, as
Speaker 1: predicted by me. I think it was one of my
Speaker 1: first threads I ever made, that this place is going
Speaker 1: to flop, just like zero and everything else before it.
Speaker 1: I am a witch, though, so I did see that coming. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you were about it, No, you're about it. I love it.
Speaker 1: But my first rag was about it flopping, oh.
Speaker 2: Babe, because I sent you an email FLEXI and I
Speaker 2: was like, is threads just going to flop? Like be real?
Speaker 1: And you were like, no, drag her. Yes, But did
Speaker 1: I not say my first thread was about it flopping? Well,
Speaker 1: get the receipt time pulling it out, I'm scrolling. I said,
Speaker 1: there's nothing like being an early adopter for a platform
Speaker 1: that's likely to fade into obscurity in minutes. Remember Vero
Speaker 1: first thread.
Speaker 2: I don't know how anyways, and let's get the.
Speaker 1: MUMMAE. Can I listen to flex and Rooms? Flex and Rooms, Okada.
Speaker 2: I recently went to the Blue Mountains for a girl's
Speaker 2: trip away. We stayed in a little cabin in Katomba.
Speaker 1: Actually, did you document this? I didn't really see this cointinet. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 2: I tend not to upload things that I do in
Speaker 2: my personal life, not for any reason. I was just
Speaker 2: really enjoying myself in just very deep in life.
Speaker 1: And it's nice when you notice that. Though I always
Speaker 1: have these situations where I'm just having such a ripping time.
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to ruin this. The phone comes out,
Speaker 1: I've ruined the moment. Well, I will say.
Speaker 2: We were at this really scary abba beat was super cheap.
Speaker 2: It was like one hundred dollars in ANNT or something,
Speaker 2: and I had seven rooms. It was deafo haunted. One
Speaker 2: of them had this doll in it and we were
Speaker 2: all playing with a doll. When sat like all sat
Speaker 2: on my bed to take a photo. I had this
Speaker 2: had on that I found in the house holding the
Speaker 2: flexus to shaking head. I was holding the doll and
Speaker 2: we all got a photo and then as the camera
Speaker 2: went off, the doll's head fell off. Yeah so yeah,
Speaker 2: Katoomba is a genuinely scary place. Anyway, we go for
Speaker 2: a walk. Next day, we decide to go to the
Speaker 2: Yellow Deli Cafe.
Speaker 1: The infamous Yellow Deli Cafe. Not just any cafe, mind you.
Speaker 1: It rates amazingly on Google. I'm talking like a four
Speaker 1: point eight stars, more than two thousand reviews.
Speaker 2: But it's not just a cafe, it is a it
Speaker 2: is a cult. So you might have heard of this cafe. Essentially,
Speaker 2: when you go to Katumba, the main strip, there is
Speaker 2: a cafe in the corner that there will perpetually be
Speaker 2: a b linee out the front. It is like all
Speaker 2: made of wood. It's like a tree wonderland in there.
Speaker 2: It's pretty amazing, it's fantastic.
Speaker 1: It's it's definitely the level of detail that any restaurant
Speaker 1: should go to, and they won't. It feels like you're
Speaker 1: in a Hobbit cafe. The tables are made out of
Speaker 1: these definitely carved tree stumps, and like the cutlery and
Speaker 1: the utensils are all beautiful, and all the staff have
Speaker 1: a quintessentially cult like aesthetic yes, do that information what
Speaker 1: you will.
Speaker 2: The Yellow Deli has been in Katomba for ages and
Speaker 2: not many people know this, like the girls I was with,
Speaker 2: I swear I told them before I went, but for
Speaker 2: some reason they didn't listen to me. Seems to be
Speaker 2: a recurring theme and they later googled it and it
Speaker 2: turns out it's run by the Twelve Tribes Communities, which
Speaker 2: are also known as the Vine Christian Community Church, a
Speaker 2: Northeast Kingdom community church, and it was founded by Jeans Spriggs.
Speaker 2: That sprang out of the Jesus Movement of nineteen seventy
Speaker 2: two in Chattanooga, Tennessee. So Twelve Tribes started in Tennessee
Speaker 2: and it has found its way to Katoomba. I don't
Speaker 2: want to make any crazy claims, given I could be
Speaker 2: liable for defamation.
Speaker 1: You could google them though. There are a lot of
Speaker 1: stories on the internet. But I think it's interesting, just
Speaker 1: like the like social norms they have, like they don't
Speaker 1: eat sugar or chocolate or coffee or tease. They finish
Speaker 1: their showers with a cold rinse for one to two
Speaker 1: minutes to boost the mind. They're all about confessing sins.
Speaker 1: The men keep beds things like that. That's the light stuff.
Speaker 1: If you want to dig deeper, I would recommend you
Speaker 1: do some research, but it will sour your experience dining
Speaker 1: in the cafe, which I have done myself as well.
Speaker 1: Eat I don't recall, but the powet is not for me.
Speaker 1: It's quite like hearty and sturdy and rusty. It's not
Speaker 1: my vibe. Like you know, you want to get a
Speaker 1: like a fruit salad and there's like cheese seas on
Speaker 1: it or something. But what I will say is that
Speaker 1: I already have this problem that my friends have observed
Speaker 1: where I don't really pay attention to anything that's not
Speaker 1: right in front of me. So if we go out
Speaker 1: to eat, I'm gonna be looking at you through me
Speaker 1: or my phone. I'm not really taken in the site.
Speaker 1: But when I went with three friends, they were like,
Speaker 1: these people were stop staring at you. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't feel like like they're staring at you. So
Speaker 1: I said, well, you want going to do?
Speaker 2: They're like what they see? Yeah, because they think I
Speaker 2: could convert her?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they are, you know, I'm down. I'm already
Speaker 1: half converted at all times. I get what the belief system.
Speaker 2: Is all this I find quite interesting, not because I
Speaker 2: want to go against it, but because I think we
Speaker 2: could learn a thing or two about the Yellow.
Speaker 1: Deli way of life, about belonging.
Speaker 2: I think we need to create our own cult Flexi mummy.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised I haven't already, but I think that's what's
Speaker 1: stopping me is that it takes a lot of sheet
Speaker 1: effort in dedication. And I also think you really you
Speaker 1: need to clear common goal and I don't have that yet.
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna make who cult Flexi. I've got
Speaker 2: it in my third eye.
Speaker 1: You probably called it as soon as it launched. Threads,
Speaker 1: the new social media app Twitter, rip off from Mark Zuckerberg,
Speaker 1: is flopping. It's flopping hard. I personally haven't used it
Speaker 1: since the twenty third of July, and that's for a reasons,
Speaker 1: because you pioneered that. I pioneered that, and I like
Speaker 1: to be ahead of the curb. But the issue is
Speaker 1: for something to maintain. It's a lure. People have to
Speaker 1: use it, and fundamentally that app it was released to
Speaker 1: the world half finished. I honestly think Zuckerberg just liked
Speaker 1: the astrology of launching on that day because it was
Speaker 1: good astrology for Threads the day at launch. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but basically, do you know that quote? It's like millionaires
Speaker 1: don't believe in astrology? What billionaires do?
Speaker 2: Oh no, I like that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I reckon he liked the astrology of the day.
Speaker 1: He said, Mercury is exactly where it needs to be
Speaker 1: for this let's launch. Now, what I will say is
Speaker 1: Zuckerberg himself implied the flop. He said, user engagement has
Speaker 1: fallen seventy percent after launch, and time spent on the
Speaker 1: app has dropped from nineteen minutes to four minutes. And
Speaker 1: I want to know why. I think the fundamental issue
Speaker 1: is sign up stats were inflated because of how frictionless
Speaker 1: it was to sign up to Threads. A click of
Speaker 1: the button, it migrates all your Instagram data to this
Speaker 1: new platform. But it didn't consider that Instagram is an
Speaker 1: image based app. These people aren't words funny. It's too
Speaker 1: much pressure for the average Instagram user to find a
Speaker 1: way to be profound using words, and we're too far
Speaker 1: from the day and age of making statuses. We go
Speaker 1: into this app and we think we've got to be profound, funny, sharp, witty.
Speaker 1: Everything needs to hit and no one was there being
Speaker 1: like I just ate a sandwich, Yeah, bring it back,
Speaker 1: And so that was never going to work for a
Speaker 1: social app. A social media app, it was lacking so
Speaker 1: many features. There's no explore page, you couldn't search by
Speaker 1: topic or search by keyword. You couldn't adjust your algorithm
Speaker 1: to see anything but what Threads wanted you to see,
Speaker 1: which was sorry, your friends. And then it would integrate
Speaker 1: random accounts that it thinks that you would like based
Speaker 1: on your Instagram usage, which we all know that's different,
Speaker 1: like what I like differs per platform. Also, one of
Speaker 1: the biggest barriers I reckon for Threads is that there
Speaker 1: wasn't a desktop app. You couldn't integrate it with anything
Speaker 1: on a desktop. We couldn't embed it in an article.
Speaker 1: So there were heaps of moments to reference threads that
Speaker 1: have been made, but you could only just share it
Speaker 1: to Instagra. It's like its own little ecosystem. So based
Speaker 1: on there, based on Zuckerbird coming out and acknowledging that
Speaker 1: it's been a floppiana, they have gone ahead and said, well,
Speaker 1: there are some new updates coming soon. So if you
Speaker 1: are using Threads at the moment and you think your
Speaker 1: moment's a way of abandoning it for good. Please stay
Speaker 1: tuned because Zuckerbird has said there's gonna be two ways
Speaker 1: to customize your feed, did not disclose in which ways.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be some translations. If you're bilingual, you might
Speaker 1: use that. There's gonna be some new ways to filter notifications,
Speaker 1: a new follow button just esthetically, and a way to
Speaker 1: approve or follow requests. So it's not looking great for
Speaker 1: Threads and they've got literally six weeks to really get
Speaker 1: it together. Don't launch something that's not gonna be a
Speaker 1: super computer of every app we already have.
Speaker 2: Thanks, I'm sick of it.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Flex and Rooms on Kata.
Speaker 2: The girlies know that when you come to listen to
Speaker 2: the Flex and from show. No matter who you are,
Speaker 2: no matter where you live, no matter what your vocation
Speaker 2: or your sexual preference. Oh, dating is a fantastic topic
Speaker 2: that we can all learn a bit about. I was
Speaker 2: on online on the internet and I came across an
Speaker 2: article by Refinery twenty nine.
Speaker 1: Is it, Mickey?
Speaker 2: I don't know that because it was actually you that
Speaker 2: found an article, Frank, because you're tireless.
Speaker 1: Ware who work never no warries. And this is an
Speaker 1: article called.
Speaker 2: One hundred and five Questions to ask your crush when
Speaker 2: you don't know what to say. Naturally, my interest was
Speaker 2: peaked immediately by such a story, and I thought we
Speaker 2: must dig deeper. The girl is must dig deep.
Speaker 1: I'm already stuck on when you don't know what to say?
Speaker 1: What's the issue? I feel like if you don't know
Speaker 1: what to say, that's your answer, right.
Speaker 2: Well no, because it's like, especially on the first set,
Speaker 2: you don't want too many awkward pauses. You need something arsenal,
Speaker 2: even if you don't use it you somedays you need
Speaker 2: to feel secure. Essentially, this person says having a crush
Speaker 2: on someone can simultaneously be the best and worst feeling
Speaker 2: in the world. I feel you, sis. While that jittery
Speaker 2: butterflies in your stomach warmth can make you feel giddy
Speaker 2: and happy, it can also be the most nerve wracking
Speaker 2: thing ever. They go on to share, and this is
Speaker 2: all printed out by Mickey The treads are weeping. One
Speaker 2: hundred and fivequestions to ask your crush. I want to
Speaker 2: start and debunk every single one of them because I
Speaker 2: think they are horrible.
Speaker 1: And to clarify back on my point. We all know
Speaker 1: I make conversation card games. I like questions to get
Speaker 1: to know people deeper. If you're struggling to do the surface,
Speaker 1: I'm concerned, but I'm not judging you. Please, okay.
Speaker 2: Number one, what is your star sign? Or don't you?
Speaker 1: Don't you dare to worry about it?
Speaker 2: The amount of people like I read this thing that
Speaker 2: if you're heterosexual dating and a man knows your star
Speaker 2: sign ran through, I kind of like him ran through. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know, No, that's not a bad thing, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Mickey? I feel like to any of
Speaker 2: us have put out what's your star sign? And now
Speaker 2: they've all got the birth chance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's totally problem.
Speaker 2: Maybe this is a manipulation technique. Do you are you
Speaker 2: actually about that life? Or you're just saying what you
Speaker 2: think I want to hear.
Speaker 1: I mean most people aren't really about that life really.
Speaker 2: What is your favorite book of all time? I cannot
Speaker 2: be ballied unless we've both read it. It's boring. Number three,
Speaker 2: what kind of music are you into it? What's your
Speaker 2: favorite album? Are you serious?
Speaker 1: I couldn't even name one and I'm a DJ. Red
Speaker 1: Flag say less. Number five, where'd you grow up.
Speaker 2: I'll all allow that sixty have any siblings, I'll allow it,
Speaker 2: but that has to be Like if it's a date
Speaker 2: that's two hours and you got to the end of
Speaker 2: tether and you actually want to know, it has to
Speaker 2: be necessary because again, why do you care?
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter right now.
Speaker 2: So no to siblings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't matter. Like when you know, when people
Speaker 1: like don't talk about religion and politics on the first day.
Speaker 1: I feel like your first day is to master conversational rapport.
Speaker 1: It's not what you're talking about, it's how you're speaking.
Speaker 1: Are we bouncing, are we joking? Are we vibing? If not,
Speaker 1: I don't need to know about your siblings. It doesn't
Speaker 1: matter if you have a parent, want one who cares?
Speaker 2: What's you favorite subject of school? Honestly, like, graduated ten
Speaker 2: years ago?
Speaker 1: Ten plus ten blush?
Speaker 2: Would you ever get to tell you? I mean, these
Speaker 2: are absolutely horrendous. If you want to go ring to article.
Speaker 1: And crossing as she grows and it's not looking good,
Speaker 1: he a w.
Speaker 2: A capers in far scary anyway, I've gone through some
Speaker 2: of the questions already, but it's time that we turn
Speaker 2: the focus inwards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're doing a thought experiment for me. Now on
Speaker 1: a date. She's claimed to have liked a few of
Speaker 1: these questions, and so I will do her the honor
Speaker 1: of posing them to her, and with all the enthusiasm
Speaker 1: she claims to have, she will answer them, Well, sure,
Speaker 1: do you have a dating type?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: This is so rough. I just can't. I have walked
Speaker 1: straight into that.
Speaker 2: If I can find one common denominator between all the
Speaker 2: people that I've gone on, like, i've dated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on.
Speaker 2: They're all like friendly.
Speaker 1: Oh they're not even Oh my god. One more, give
Speaker 1: us one way? Okay, what's a dating type? One more?
Speaker 1: What do you listen to anything? I tell you. The
Speaker 1: one thing I taught the girl is when you're on
Speaker 1: the date and you've imposed questions, it's not that telling
Speaker 1: the truth paint the picture. What's my dating type? I
Speaker 1: have the best experience of people who treat me well,
Speaker 1: people who are open to new experiences, people who love
Speaker 1: to joke and have fun. That's my dating type. For
Speaker 1: feeling sassy, you say not when I see it? Yes, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: Next question, what's your ideal first date?
Speaker 2: My ideal first date is someone who organizes it.
Speaker 1: Trauma, trauma, because what you're saying is that you don't
Speaker 1: go on dates. Say shut up, shut up, Come on.
Speaker 1: That one is a target of attack.
Speaker 2: You know who you are. Okay, my favorite first date.
Speaker 2: I want to go on an adventure with you. I
Speaker 2: want to go out for dinner and then we go
Speaker 2: and do something crazy like once I went on a
Speaker 2: date and oh, I actually can't say because it's illegal,
Speaker 2: but nice, you know, ran into these restaurants that were
Speaker 2: closed and like jumped on the tables and then walked
Speaker 2: through Hyde Park and we saw a squirrel and we
Speaker 2: held hands and we kiss beautiful.
Speaker 1: Oh, lots of crazy stuff happened, I will say. Look,
Speaker 1: the article is titled one hundred and five questions to
Speaker 1: ask you a crush when you don't know what to say,
Speaker 1: And here's my thing. I don't even know what to say,
Speaker 1: and I don't have a crush on. I imagine that
Speaker 1: a lot of people would resonate with an article like
Speaker 1: this because they've hyped up what's happening in the early
Speaker 1: stages of a day. It honestly is a vibe assessment.
Speaker 1: I speak to three me often, and I say that
Speaker 1: some of our relationship isn't asking questions back and forth.
Speaker 1: It's providing information and someone responding, providing information and responding.
Speaker 1: What makes the friendship is how we keep responding to
Speaker 1: each other. We have a similar humor, We like each
Speaker 1: other's ideas and thoughts. That's the environment you're creating in
Speaker 1: a day. You're not trying to mind information to create
Speaker 1: a picture of a person. You're trying to assess a vibe.
Speaker 1: If you're having difficulties assessing the vibe, I might say
Speaker 1: there is no vibe, and therefore, go and seek out
Speaker 1: someone you have a better vibe with you, go and
Speaker 1: seek therapy. It shouldn't be so prescriptive. You really are
Speaker 1: looking for something into tangible, but something that ultimately feels good,
Speaker 1: simple as that.
Speaker 2: Any other questions you'd like to ask me flax before.
Speaker 1: You go, Yes, I have a few. I'd like to
Speaker 1: ask you. This is a good one. How did you
Speaker 1: meet your best friend and what do you love about them?
Speaker 2: My best friend's name is Madison. We met on MySpace.
Speaker 1: See this is great tell me more two.
Speaker 2: Thousand and eight. We went to the same school, with
Speaker 2: different campuses. She was from the country campus. She was
Speaker 2: a horse girl. She had the cause my space of
Speaker 2: anyone in our school all HGTML whatever did helping and
Speaker 2: then we just got talking. Our friendship really was cemented
Speaker 2: obviously in high school. To this day, we talk every day.
Speaker 1: What do you like about her?
Speaker 2: She's the most one of the most sensitive people I know.
Speaker 2: Her comprehension skills, very specific comprehension is unheard of.
Speaker 1: She is completely never.
Speaker 2: Makes me feel stupid for being anxious. It's like a
Speaker 2: safety blanket, but also one of the smartest feel of
Speaker 2: ever met. An incredible writer and a very very honestly
Speaker 2: like intellectually gifted.
Speaker 1: What do you reckon? She likes about you? It is
Speaker 1: like love.
Speaker 2: We have something that is akin to love.
Speaker 1: You'd hope. So after being friends for literally templus, I
Speaker 1: think I think it's love.
Speaker 2: You know me, I never trust myself. What does she
Speaker 2: like about me? She likes that I'm creative and that
Speaker 2: I'm sensitive, and that we like the shared understanding and
Speaker 2: the shared language that no one else can have except
Speaker 2: fast too.
Speaker 1: One more question, One more question. What's a compliment that
Speaker 1: you've been given that stuck with you.
Speaker 2: I went on a show recently. I won't name who
Speaker 2: it was, but a very I trusted Australian. Yeah, in
Speaker 2: the entertainment industry said to me, Jee, this is good stuff. Honestly,
Speaker 2: one of the nicest things. I did repeat this to
Speaker 2: a date recently. I thought, this is the kind of
Speaker 2: stuff you need to be said to me. They said,
Speaker 2: you have an excellent energy and a clever but unpredictable mindea,
Speaker 2: a rare combination, and a stuck and it's true. I said,
Speaker 2: damn you stawmicking.
Speaker 1: It's nice to be seen. I was sweating.
Speaker 2: I was so excited. I feel like in a dating scenario,
Speaker 2: I want someone actually wrote a manifest list. I want
Speaker 2: someone who thinks that I'm very unique. Yeah, because that's
Speaker 2: but I need to keep doing the thing where I
Speaker 2: think about what I want from someone, because I don't
Speaker 2: know if I want the same thing for them. Do
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Beautiful, I want to be a store.
Speaker 2: I want to be a store mummy. Anyway, print the
Speaker 2: list one hundred and five questions to ask your question
Speaker 2: you don't know what to say, and ask your friend.
Speaker 2: It's so nice answering questions. Flex thanks Yeah, time that
Speaker 2: I asked the question. Has furiism gone too far here
Speaker 2: in the human community?
Speaker 1: Not gone far enough?
Speaker 2: I've seen a news story on news dot com dot
Speaker 2: au man spends twenty two thousand dollars to become a
Speaker 2: real life Border Collie dog. Instantly, my mind is back
Speaker 2: to one of the greatest news stories of July August
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. There is a zoo in China, Okay.
Speaker 2: And inside the zoo in China, there is a bear enclosure.
Speaker 1: Skinny bears all across.
Speaker 2: The globe, all across the Internet. I see human in disguise,
Speaker 2: zoo forced to deny bear is a person in a costume.
Speaker 2: What I then see is a bear walking on its
Speaker 2: hind legs, has the saggiest ass I've ever seen on
Speaker 2: a four legged friend, and the bear. The bear went
Speaker 2: on the zoo social media and said, some people think
Speaker 2: I stand like a person. It seems you don't understand
Speaker 2: me very well. Tell me why when they're trying to
Speaker 2: convince everybody that the bear is a bear and not
Speaker 2: a human, do they decide to go first person on
Speaker 2: the social From bears perspective, It's strange because in this instance,
Speaker 2: I don't know if we're familiar with the make and
Speaker 2: build of an average bear, but it's juicy.
Speaker 1: A bear is voluptuous, right, this one is skinny and
Speaker 1: has no bend in the leg, and also the legs
Speaker 1: are long. Bears have short legs. No, I think it's
Speaker 1: legs for short.
Speaker 2: You're giving it body dysmorphia.
Speaker 1: But also I think it's the fact that like we
Speaker 1: we try and humanize animals to relate to them anyway,
Speaker 1: Like we pretend that we see cats smiling, and we
Speaker 1: pretend that we see dogs smirking, And so this just
Speaker 1: feels like we've taken it too far, perhaps like we've
Speaker 1: just been able to see a human like character in
Speaker 1: a bear, and now like it must be human, so
Speaker 1: that seems more absurd.
Speaker 2: Do you think it's a bear or human?
Speaker 1: I think it's a bear. I think it's a human.
Speaker 1: But I think it's a bear, you know, No, Like
Speaker 1: I look at it and say, that's a person for sure,
Speaker 1: But I know that's just my own filtering and brainwashing.
Speaker 2: If you could be an animal, what would you be?
Speaker 1: A puma?
Speaker 2: A puma? Yeah, pooh mammy.
Speaker 1: Nice as if you're all laughing about, say you ain't
Speaker 1: in that, mummy, this is flex mummy.
Speaker 2: Pooh pooh mammy, and pom's poms and pruh mammy.
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