1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Christian O'Connell show podcast. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 2: Had to answer me this. Did you use the word 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: mullet in the eighties? 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 3: Yes, because I see I remember where it was also 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 3: known in the eighties as ice hockey hair. I don't 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 3: remember him in the mullet to like the nineties. 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: All right, further research into it. The Oxford English Dictionary 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: has credited the Beastie Boys with the term mullet as 9 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: a haircut. 10 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 4: The Oe d Roy is recognized all over the world. 11 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 2: How's this for a scandal? The OED first credited Australian 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: Street Machine Automotive Magazine with the first publication describing the 13 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: mullet in nineteen ninety two, pre dating the Beastie Boys. 14 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: Then later is discovered that the magazine image had been 15 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 2: faked and the twenty eighteen apology posted had the fake. 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: So the MAGA. 17 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 4: Post deep fake was about the mullet. 18 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: The magazine fudged their dates to say we were the 19 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: first one to come up with the mullet. Wow, but 20 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: apparently in the eighties we didn't call it a mullet. 21 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 4: Can someone calling? 22 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 3: Can anyone call in and tell us some of this? Honestly, 23 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: did you really call it the munet in the eighties. 24 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 3: I don't believe we did. I don't memory one calling 25 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: him money. It wasn't known as being awed unusual, just 26 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 3: how you had your hair. 27 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: And if the Beastie Boys did come up with it, 28 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: they should get more credit for coming up with the word. 29 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 3: Got enough credit, I mean, the Wandi recognized the pioneer 30 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: of music. There's nothing held the Beastie Boys back. When 31 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: are we going to get the ju kudos for coining 32 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 3: the words word? 33 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: Christian Connell Show podcast. 34 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 4: We're talking about the great Munnet still going strong here 35 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 4: in Austrow. Did it ever go away? No, it didn't. 36 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 4: You've stood by the monet now. 37 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: Jack has found some interestant research about the origins though 38 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 3: not of the mudllet the haircut, but actually the word mullllet, 39 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: which is what we universally all over the world called 40 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: that ye and. 41 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: When I actually think of the mullet as an eighties 42 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: icon hairstyle. But apparently it wasn't until nineteen ninety four 43 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: that we used the word mullet, and the Oxford English 44 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: Dictionary says the of the term mullet to describe a 45 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: hairstyle was coined by American hip hop group the Beastie 46 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 2: Boys in their song Mullet Heead nineteen ninety four. 47 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, what of You's emailed me saying you're actually at work, 48 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: supposed to be working, but actually now googling this doing 49 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: research for us about the origins of the phrase. Mullllet 50 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 3: send me a link to the Guardian website and a 51 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: very dry dollar con section they've got called semantic enigmas. 52 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: I'm listening to ABC through the night now it was 53 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: time for this week's semantic enigmas. 54 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: Hey, we did Doyley's and Haberdashery ten. 55 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: Stand by that, stand by that. That's hard talk on 56 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: this show. Why is a muddet hairstyle called a mudet? 57 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: Mullett websites done, that was the thing. There are munet websites. 58 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 3: Munllet websites generally credit the car coining of this phrase 59 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 3: to Mike d of the of course Beastie Boys. This 60 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: came from the song Mullettheads on the ninety four album 61 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 3: Ill Communication, which described the hairgun it's wearers. Someone else 62 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 3: chipping in on this. Americans call it the biff rib, 63 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: which stands for business in front, rocking at the back. 64 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 3: Paul Newman apparently refers to actually says the words mullet 65 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 3: heads in his film Cool Hand Luke, which was out 66 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 3: in nineteen sixty seven, which is see if we can get. 67 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 4: Hold of the audio for that. You know, we need 68 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 4: to speak today, right, we've got color. You were lined up? 69 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 4: Is anyone who was a hairdresser in the eighties? 70 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 5: Yes? 71 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 4: What would a guy? 72 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, come in and actually say what they want? Would 73 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 3: they just go look short the back? Leave it all 74 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: big on top? 75 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: I know the person my hairdresser used to be a 76 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: hairdresser to the star. 77 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 4: How did you leave it with them? When you leave 78 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 4: a hairdresser? 79 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: No, no, she retired, Oh she retired scissors. She hung 80 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: up the scissors. I had to leave. But she said 81 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: she used to do all the rock bands as they 82 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: came through the rolling stones on the show. Yeah, Colleen, 83 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: I bet she'll know what number. 84 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 3: Yes, all right, let's try it at that. So all right, 85 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 3: let's go to lines right now. So we're trying to 86 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 3: find out what did we all say in the eighties 87 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 3: for the money? If it didn't come along to the 88 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: Beasti Boys in ninety four, Brett, good morning, good morning, Brett, 89 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: what do you reckon the money, when do we start 90 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: saying it? 91 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 6: Well, in my opinion, the muddlers known as the Bogan 92 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 6: cut in the eighties. 93 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, we used to call it the ice ice 94 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 3: hockey hair in the UK. Mainly we thought it was 95 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: mainly like Canadians that sort of had that look in 96 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 3: the It. 97 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 4: Does feel like a very very Candian. 98 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: Sashes Australians as well, but yeah, go on, Bogan cut them. 99 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, So if you had the mullet, you were 100 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 6: known as a bogan yeap. And and if you went 101 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 6: to the hairdresser you would make sure that they kept 102 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 6: tails at the back. 103 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 3: And I think it's the nastiest manifestation and variation of 104 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 3: the munet. The munet I think can look good, right, 105 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 3: but those rattails if you see it on like a 106 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 3: five or seven year old boy, right, I'm afraid you 107 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 3: judge the parents don't. 108 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: Oh no, wait, I know. I spoke to bretton his 109 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: son has a mullet. 110 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 6: He does, and it's. 111 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 4: Down awkward, Brett. I'll send your price. Brett, thank you 112 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 4: very much for calling. He's triple. 113 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 3: Who knew we could fall out with this is a 114 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: rat tails? I didn't know that was my unpopular opinion. 115 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: Let's go to sorry Breton the son. 116 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 5: Good morning Joe, Yes, Hi, hello Christian. 117 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 4: My friend. What do you say mullets? 118 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 5: Man? Jack's right, we need to call with a mullet. 119 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 5: Matter of fact, back in the late seventies we should 120 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 5: just going in the head dresser and say look, I 121 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 5: takes some off the sides and leave the back along. 122 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 5: That was it. 123 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, no one said the word money. It wasn't known 124 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 4: as that one. 125 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 5: No, it wasn't. If you have look at some of 126 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 5: the some of the gangs back in the early seventies, 127 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 5: like the I think it was the sharpest, normal basedab 128 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:45,679 Speaker 5: their heir along at the back and stuff. 129 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 4: But that too. Yeah, we have to have a look 130 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 4: at some of those gangs of the seventies. 131 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: I want to see Daniel day Lewis the Gangs of 132 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 3: Australia in a mullet. 133 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: Australia is the movie that needs to. 134 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 4: Be nice, getting Daniel day Lewis to call me on? 135 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 4: Who's calling? 136 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 3: Christian now pictured to him he set in the seventies 137 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 3: in Frankston. 138 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 4: You're rocking and money. 139 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 2: Everybody has a mullet, but they don't call it that. 140 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 4: They don't call it that my friend soon as a bogan, Joe. 141 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 4: Great call, Thank you very. 142 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 5: Much, Well well. 143 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: Christian Connell's Show podcast