WEBVTT - The Real Estate Selling Spree 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:05.040 Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:08.480 hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:11.680 Kate Torbert and coming up on today's show, Steph Claire 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:15.600 Smith's real estate empire up for sale, Graciepiscopo takes the 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:19.120 stand in her ex boyfriend's murder trial, and our highs 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:22.840 and Lows of the Week. But first, after weeks of speculation, 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:25.720 Sky Wheatley chose a Instagram Q and A as the 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:27.600 former to address rumors that she'd. 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:29.560 Broken up with their baby daddy, Locky War. 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:32.400 Responding to a follower who asked what was going on 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:36.040 between the pair, Sky replied, honestly, not much to report. 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:38.160 We just have a little reset break from time. 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:38.960 It's good. 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:41.720 And these comments came after a lot of speculation because 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:43.960 Lockie was staying in his parents house and he'd been 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:47.239 posting a few rogue Instagram stories as well, yes, the 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:51.440 Whole Sausages and Sauna saga. Now, when I read Sky 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:54.760 Wheatly's answer, I just assumed that they'd had a break 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:57.360 like they've had in the past, because she's been very 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:59.440 candid about the fact that they take breaks and then 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:03.560 they come back together. However, the Daily Mail interpreted Sky's 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:06.880 answer differently, and they ran with the headline that Sky 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:09.840 and Locke had separated. Well, I think they interpreted it 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:12.000 how they wanted to, just for clickbase. Yeah, but it 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:13.960 was pretty embarrassing for them because they had to do 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:17.280 this major backflip because they ended up papping Sky at 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:20.080 her active wear pop up at Pacific Fair and she 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:23.000 was there with Lockie and they were spotted cuddling and kissing. 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:24.920 So trying to save face. 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:27.400 The Daily Mail wrote, Sky Wheatley has been packing on 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:30.560 the PDA with her partner Lachlan wat just days after 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:33.559 announcing their separation. I'm surprised they didn't try and frame 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:37.839 Lachlan as like a very supportive X or something. Yeah, well, 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:39.920 did they really think that Sky was going to announce 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.480 the end of her six year relationship with the father 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:44.440 of her two children with a casual Q and a 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:46.759 do they even know Sky Wheatley? Like, do you would 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:48.560 be putting something out that was bigger than Ben her? 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:48.800 Well? 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.440 I could even imagine Lockie popping up in some kind 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.040 of YouTube tell all of why they split. That ran 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.800 for like forty minutes with absolutely no editing involved. 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:00.600 This house. We met, we got engaged, we got married 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:01.680 in Yeah. 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.600 Steph Claire Smith and her husband Josh Miller are in 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.760 the midst of a selling spree. Two of their multimillion 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:10.560 dollar properties are up for sale, just weeks after the 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:14.120 fitness entrepreneur was named on the afr's Young Rich List. 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:17.000 It's been a big month for Steph Claire Smith. Last week, 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:19.480 she announced that she was pregnant with her second child. 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:21.880 A couple of weeks before that, she revealed she'd been 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:25.560 diagnosed with ADHD. Two weeks before that, she announced she 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:28.880 had a vibrator up her bub which went everywhere in 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:30.720 the press. So I don't know if that was part 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:32.800 of your rap cake. No, that wasn't, but we have 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.280 spoken about it a little bit on the podcast. Then 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:37.320 at the start of November, which is what I was 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:40.160 going to say, she was ranked number ninety seven on 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:43.359 the Australian Financial Reviews Young Rich List, with a net 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:46.840 worth of forty two million dollars. Now she's back in 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.560 the news again because her husband Josh has announced that 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.120 he's selling his family's Murray River property. 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:54.440 Plus super Sluice. 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:57.359 Have uncovered plans that they're also selling their seven million 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:00.600 dollar mansion that they moved into just two years ago. 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.480 When it comes to the family property, it's a deliberate 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:07.440 advertising campaign that Josh is heavily involved in. So he's 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:10.080 been interviewed by real estate dot com and also the 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:13.760 Australian Financial Review about the listing. It reminded me a 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.120 lot of when Mitch Orville and Chloe Zepp were selling 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:18.480 their house. Just how much publicity this is getting. Yeah, 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:20.560 they're very keen to get the messaging out there. And 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:22.560 I was shocked when I found out that they were 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.960 selling the property because Steph has spoken in length about 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:28.960 how special it is to her. It's where she first 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:32.440 met Josh, it's where they got engaged and also got married, 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:36.040 And in the interview, Josh said, it's very sentimental. Outside 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:38.520 of just being a beautiful property, it holds almost all 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:40.960 my memories from being a little boy growing up riding 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:43.480 dirt bikes and I'm now thirty three, so it's had 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.280 a massive part in my life. 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:45.440 Well. 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:48.400 It's funny because originally, when Steph started referring to this 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:51.680 family property, I thought it was some regular shack down 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:55.080 at the Murray River, but this is far from that. Oh, 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.720 I had a good time looking at the photos and 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.640 videos of this property. So it's located on the Victorian 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:03.560 and New South Wales border at Bury, which is around 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:06.040 a three hour drive from Melbourne, or if you're rich, 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:09.320 a forty five minute chopper ride. And if the chopper 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.760 access didn't give it away, the fact this property has 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:15.800 a name just demonstrates how fancy it is. It's called 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.320 the Clarendon. I wait a sex, So does it have 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:20.680 a chopper pad where you can land on? Well it 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.640 must because they kept talking about this chopper access. I 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:25.719 would love to run you through some of the features 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:29.240 of this property. So it's a sixteen hectare property and 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:34.280 has seven bedrooms and five bathrooms. So the main homestead 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.520 was built from two existing dwellings which were shipped to 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:39.840 the property to create one large home. 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:40.400 Sorry. 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.239 Yeah, so one of the buildings was a weatherboard home 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.240 and the other was the former Mornington art gallery. 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:50.520 So sorry, that is actually crazy. 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:51.039 Yeah. 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:54.679 And it also has its own golf course, a twenty 0:04:54.720 --> 0:05:00.080 two meter swimming pool, spa tennis court, Olympic built in trampoline, 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:04.560 cinema or a mental turtcoise lake, ten car garage and 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:08.640 a machinery shed. It also has thirty five established palm trees. 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:09.880 What the fuck? 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:13.799 Like? This is an absolute mansion. Can you imagine rocking 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.359 up to this and not realizing how big it actually is? 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.160 Like you've just come along for a stay at Josh's house. 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:21.440 I would love to stay at the Lace. So its 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:24.960 own golf course. Yeah, what does Stosha's parents do? 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:25.440 Well? 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.640 I did some digging because I thought the exact same thing. 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:31.480 And his dad, Ken is the owner of a shop 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.640 fitting company, which seems pretty large. They've got fifty employees. 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.840 Josh actually used to work for him, But it doesn't 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:40.120 seem from the outside like they've come from a lot 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.760 of money. So Ken dropped out of high school I 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:46.080 think in year eight, and he was just really interested 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:49.640 in maintaining golf courses. So when he bought this property 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:52.839 back in two thousand and six, he started to build 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:54.599 his own golf course and it's just gone from there. 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:56.760 But apparently it's a very high quality golf. 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:58.160 Course, not that I know a lot about it. 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:00.720 No, I can't imagine it's some sort of little crappy 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.479 putting green is put in there now. It has been 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:06.560 listed on real estate dot Com for eight to eight 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:10.159 point eight million dollars. But one thing that's confused me 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:13.279 about this whole thing is who actually owns the property, 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:17.039 because the Australian Financial Review is reporting that Josh's dad 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.920 Ken does, and they said that he purchased it nearly 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.520 twenty years ago in two thousand and six. However, when 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:25.200 I was doing some digging, according to domain it was 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:28.480 last sold in twenty seventeen for just one hundred and 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:32.080 thirty thousand dollars, while it's sold for eight hundred and 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:35.320 seventy thousand back in two thousand and six when Ken 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:38.719 first purchased it. Well, sometimes if you own a property 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:40.559 and you want to give it to your children or something, 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:43.479 you can sell it for a much reduced price. Maybe 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:47.480 this is what's happened, or maybe for business reasons the property. 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:48.640 Has been passed on to somebody else. 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:51.920 Well, it's strange because Steph and Josh have been publicly 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:55.160 stating that they own the property. So after their wedding, 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:57.479 there was a lot of interest in the property because 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.960 it was the backdrop of this amazing influence wedding, and 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:04.320 Josh took on the role of leading renovations on the property. 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:07.040 He also advertised it as a property that you could 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.360 rent out for corporate events or I mean, I suppose 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:10.840 if you've got a lot of money, you could also 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.560 stay in it. And the couple even did a deal 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:16.559 with the Blind Company and they were plastered all over 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.240 their website as the owners of the property. Let's throw 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:20.320 to a little bit of the video. 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.720 Hi, I'm Steph, this is Harvey and I'm Josh, and 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:28.320 welcome to our home clarendonare So we're currently in northern Victoria. 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:30.960 We're about forty minutes north of Shepherd and on the 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.560 Murray River. Obviously we're surrounded by the bush and we're 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:35.760 actually neighboringing the Barme State Forest. So it was really 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:40.200 important to bring the wow element of outside inside well. 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:43.040 To add further intrigue to this story. As you mentioned 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.880 at the start, k super Sleeves have spotted that Steph 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:49.680 and Josh's Brighton East mansion is set to be listed too. 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:52.800 So the couple only purchased the resort style home back 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:55.280 in late twenty twenty one, and at the time they 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:58.840 paid seven million dollars for the property, So they previously 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:01.000 lived in the area and sold their former home for 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.840 three point four million in June twenty twenty one, they 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.240 made just under a million dollars from when they bought 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:09.160 it in twenty nineteen. What's really fascinating is that Josh 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:11.920 has been front and center promoting the sale of his 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:12.880 family property. 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:14.520 Yet we haven't. 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.160 Heard Josh or Steph share any news about the sale 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.640 of this house. It was super sloops. As we said, 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.520 that found this listing by white Fox real Estate. Now, 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:24.200 when I saw a white Fox real Estate, I was like, 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:26.640 is that even a real real estate company or is 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:28.920 that something to do with the brand. It's definitely not 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.560 related to the clothing brand. White Fox real Estate have 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:33.720 been around for quite a while. God, I have never 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:35.240 heard of them, so I had to go check out 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:37.560 their page to make sure it was legit. And the 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:40.880 real estate company and also the real estate agent, Lana Samuels, 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:43.840 shared a photo outside the property with the caption the 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:47.520 deal the Palms by Plessa Perkins and inform coming soon, 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:51.280 and they also shared a real showing off the amazing property. 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:52.280 God, it's nice. 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:54.680 Why do you think they're selling both of the properties? 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:56.560 It seems interesting timing to have them go on the 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:59.520 market around the same time, and also just a week 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:02.480 after def announced her pregnancy with her second child. I 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.600 wonder if they waited because if both of the properties 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:08.000 had gone on the market, people might have thought that 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.280 Steph and Josh had broken up, which they clearly have 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.599 a well, there was some speculation that they might have 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:15.320 broken up around the time that Steph revealed she had 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:17.360 a big announcement to make on her podcast. I mean 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:21.040 that turned out to be Steph's ADHD diagnosis, and obviously 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.760 the pair are very happy together. Yeah, well, that clearly 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.080 isn't the reason. I think it may have something to 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:29.240 do with Steph's wealth. So, as we touched upon she 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:31.880 was named in the Young Rich List. She has forty 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:34.640 two million dollars to her name. That has gone up 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.240 a lot since she last featured on it. So I'm 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:41.160 guessing that maybe they're wanting to expand their actual living 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:44.880 quarters in Melbourne rather living like they're wanting to upgrade 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:46.840 from the seven million dollar property. I mean, it makes 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.400 sense if they're having another baby. I assume there would 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:51.720 be more than enough space for a second baby in 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:55.000 a seven million dollar property, but why not actually go 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.200 fuck it, We're going to buy a bigger place. Maybe 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.760 doing well, Yeah, maybe the second baby needs its own 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:03.080 win maybe state. But the interesting thing is that a 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.960 lot of the time when people start selling off properties, 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.480 it actually indicates that they're not doing as well financially, 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:11.000 which is why it's so interesting, because Steph is doing 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:14.040 better than ever. Yeah, but why not keep the family property? 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:17.360 That's really sentimental. So Josh was quoted in the article 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.280 saying that after developing the compound into what it is 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:22.960 today with his father and brother, it was time for 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:26.000 his family to move on to another project and pass 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:27.880 the private oasis onto another family. 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:29.760 I would be keeping it. 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:32.960 Well, doesn't Steph kless Smith's family have a property nearby? Yeah, 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:35.080 so that's the interesting thing. The town only has one 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:37.560 hundred and sixty people in it, and Steph klees Smith's 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.400 family owned a property there, and then Josh's family had 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:41.280 one as well. 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:42.400 But do they still have it? 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:44.960 Well, I thought they did, but Steph has been staying 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:47.880 more at Josh's family's house because I mean, obviously it's 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:51.080 got to go. Of course, Olympic sized Paul trampoline, so yeah, 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:53.280 so I would be too. But I did notice that 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:55.959 the family are celebrating Christmas at the property this year, 0:10:56.000 --> 0:11:00.120 so it must be a final Farewell you follow Gracie Piscopo. 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:04.080 Gracie is one of the great many social media stars 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:06.760 who are wildly popular, but to whom normal people are 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:11.040 completely oblivious. The twenty six year old is considered Tammy 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:14.120 Hember two point zero because she has also modeled for 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:15.040 the Kardashians. 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:19.400 Perth influencer Gracie Piscopo has taken the stand in the 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:23.280 murder trial of her ex boyfriend Andre Robello. Rebello is 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.680 accused of murdering his mother to access her life insurance 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:30.040 policy in a bid to alleviate his debt and maintain 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:33.800 a glamorous lifestyle. Rebello denies killing his mother, but has 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:37.080 admitted to forging documents in order to obtain the five 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:40.440 hundred thousand dollars life insurance policy, which he took out 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:43.720 in her name days before her death. His defense team 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:47.160 claims he took out the policies at his mum's request. Now, 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:49.840 there has been a lot of speculation over whether Gracie 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.720 would take the stand. This week, she appeared as the 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:55.360 final witness in the trial, and we do want to 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:58.600 reiterate that Gracie has not been accused of any wrongdoing 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:01.120 in terms of reporting on this story, we are being 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:04.520 really careful because we only want to discuss the facts 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:08.120 today and not delve into our own personal opinions and hearsay, 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:10.640 because this is a matter that is still in front 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:12.280 of the courts and we don't want to say anything 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.400 that could prejudice this case. Well, while Gracie isn't under 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:18.520 investigation for any wrongdoing, her name has been all over 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:20.520 this case. Yeah, and it's easy to see why. She 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:23.240 is an influencer with over a million followers. It adds 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:26.360 a lot of intrigue or even more intrigue. 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:26.480 To this case. 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.120 And it was only two weeks ago that her financial 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:32.760 status was under the microscope. So not only was her 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:36.000 salary revealed, but the court also heard that both she 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:39.560 and Andre were living off borrowed money and applying for 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:43.280 Centrelink benefits. So in court proceedings, it was revealed that 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:46.280 Gracie made one hundred and forty one thousand dollars in 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:51.199 twenty nineteen and two hundred and nineteen thousand the following year. However, 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.839 despite her high salary, it was revealed that she was 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:57.120 in debt with multiple credit cards, personal loans, and after 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:00.840 pay accounts and a few months before Colleen's death, Gracie 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:04.040 and Andre Ribello both applied for the early release of 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:08.040 their super annuation under the COVID nineteen hardship rules, and 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:11.560 Gracie also applied for Centlink job seeker payments. And just 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.320 to point out, a lot of people did this during COVID, Yeah, 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.440 a lot of people were, but it's quite clear that 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.920 they were in financial hardship because around that time Gracie 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:24.240 also made eight loan applications and multiple credit card applications. 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.680 Just eight months before Andre was arrested, he also applied 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.920 for bankruptcy with just fifty dollars cash and eight hundred 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:34.120 worth of assets to his name. Now, when Gracie appeared 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:37.760 in court, she was questioned about the day of Colleen's death. 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.280 So at this time she and Andre had been in 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:43.120 a relationship for eight years and were living together with 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:45.600 their son. So Gracie told the court it was just 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.520 like any regular week day. She said Andre had left 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.240 that morning to run errands, which included dropping off some 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:54.280 clothes at his mum's house for his younger brother. Now 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:57.240 this is in contrast to what Gracie told the police 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:00.600 in twenty twenty when interviewed. Originally, she told them that 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.160 she and Andrea hadn't left their home on the day 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:07.240 of his mother's death. Prosecutors quized Gracie about why her 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:09.800 story had changed, and she told them I didn't think 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:14.160 it was important, and when pushed further by prosecutors, she responded, 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:16.080 it was scary, and I just told them what I 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.960 knew and what I could remember. Prosecutors then accused Gracie 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.040 of trying to protect Andrea, to which she responded, I'm 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.680 telling the truth the best I can. I came to 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.640 court because I have been spoken about the entirety of 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.560 the trial and I want to have my voice. Everything 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:34.080 I do is for my son. I'm just following my 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:36.760 heart and doing the right thing right now. I'm just 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.640 telling the truth to help everyone. And I can understand 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:42.200 where she's coming from because her face has been splashed 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.640 all over this case, even though she is not the 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:47.400 one on trial now. On Monday, the court was shown 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:50.360 phone records which revealed Gracie had tried to call Andre 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.480 more than a dozen times between eleven ten am and 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:55.760 eleven thirty five am on the morning. 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:56.480 Of his mother's death. 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:59.880 She'd also sent him several text messages asking him to 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.240 answer the phone and asking him where he was. So 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.800 messages range from answer your fucking phone to where are you? 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.400 And oh my god, I swear to god, Andre, do 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:11.400 you have a phone? What is wrong with you? 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:11.800 Answer? 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:15.840 For fuck's sake, I'm fuming at you. I'm so angry. Now, 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:19.280 prosecutors allege that Andre was in the process of killing 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.120 his mum while Gracie was attempting to get a hold 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:25.440 of him. This is something that Andre denies now. When 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:28.480 asked about these messages, Gracie explained that she was really 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:31.360 frustrated with her boyfriend at the time because he had 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:34.000 a habit of keeping his phone on silent and she 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:37.200 thought he was coming home to see her cousin. Now, 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.920 he did end up getting home around lunchtime while her 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:42.800 cousin was still there, and she said there wasn't anything 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:46.080 unusual about him and confirmed he had no injuries. Now, 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:49.680 part of the States case against Andre Ribello has been 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.280 attempting to build up a narrative that he was in 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:56.160 debt and being hounded by collection agencies. So they are 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:59.160 alleging he was desperately trying to maintain and I quote 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:03.000 a plastic fantastic lifestyle. So a lot of questions were 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:05.440 aimed at Gracie about her financewers. 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:05.920 Now. 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:09.520 I found this particularly interesting from an influencer perspective because 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:13.320 normally influencers don't share how much they're hirving, but obviously 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:15.920 in this situation she had to. So she told the 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.120 court she could earn up to eight thousand dollars in 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:21.880 Instagram post through her brand collaborations, and as much as 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:23.120 five thousand dollars for. 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:24.480 A YouTube video promotion. 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:27.440 She also revealed one of her brand deals earned her 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:30.880 eighty thousand dollars over twelve months. It was also revealed 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:34.480 in court that Andre Rebello was working as Gracie's assistant 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:37.840 and he was earning around twenty thousand dollars and also 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:40.120 was a stay at home dad, so this isn't start 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.280 contrast to the figures that Gracie was earning. Now, Gracie 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:46.560 was also asked about a conversation she allegedly had with 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:50.680 Andre in the week surrounding his mother's death. Prosecutors alleged 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:52.960 that Andre told Gracie he was going to get five 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:56.840 hundred thousand dollars in cryptocurrency. However, Gracie said that she 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:58.280 couldn't recall the conversation. 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:00.160 However, when asked if. 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.520 Andre had told her he was finally going to make 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:06.080 a big sum of money before his mom died, Gracie replied, 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:06.880 I guess. 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:07.400 Now. 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.919 This court case is continuing and we will keep you 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:12.480 up to date with any relevant findings that come out. 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:15.920 Now let's get into our highs and lows of the week, Amy, 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:18.159 I'm going to kick things off. My low of the 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.800 week is my postpartum hair loss. I thought I had 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:24.200 missed it. I was getting really cocky. I'm like, Oh, 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.000 it's not going to happen to me. I've always had thin, 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:27.879 shit hair, so I. 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:29.240 Was like, maybe I'm in luck. 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:32.320 Maybe my scalp is going to hold onto this extra 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.200 thigger hair. It was looking shiny. I'd even been getting 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:39.560 compliments about it, which is very unusual for my hair. No. Literally, 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.320 at the four and a half month mark, it started 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:43.120 dropping out and it. 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:43.880 Has still came out. 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:45.439 Is it just like when you brush your hair, just 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:47.920 heaps of extra hairs come out or does it actually just. 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:48.760 Like fall out? 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:52.120 So what happens is you suddenly start noticing a lot 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:55.880 more hair coming out in the shower and then so before, 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:58.399 when I was pregnant and postpardum, for up to that 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:00.640 four month period, i'd put a hair tie my hair 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:02.960 and no hair would come off. And literally there is 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.200 so much hair attached to my hair ties. I've got 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:08.040 them hanging in the shower. They look so disgusting. Our 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.359 drains are starting to get blocked up. Yeah, and it 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.320 just comes out and like, and I'm like, I am 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:15.320 going to be bald. I have no hair left, so 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:17.359 I think I'm actually going to have to get the 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.000 mum bob. And I've always judged people for doing that. 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:21.960 I'm like, why would you cut your beautiful hair off? 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.359 But now I get don't cut it because I can't 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:28.119 stand the winging associated with it. I think, just hold on, 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:29.640 like that's gonna pass. 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:31.679 Hair will come back. Yeah, it will come back. 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:33.679 It's gonna It's taken me years to grow it to 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:34.280