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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda's it's.

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Speaker 2: It mattered to you that our prime minister is a

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Speaker 2: big churchy.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting, isn't it. He's Scott Morrison is a pentecost

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Speaker 1: of the Pentecostal faith, which is what we used to

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Speaker 1: know is happy Clappy the Hill's song, isn't it? And

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Speaker 1: he has invited the press in in the past to

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Speaker 1: watch him in.

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Speaker 3: Church.

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Speaker 1: So this is open for discussion because he's invited the

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Speaker 1: press to know about this about his life and it

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Speaker 1: does shape his decisions, so it does matter. But does

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Speaker 1: it matter in a good or a bad way? That's

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Speaker 1: I think an interesting discussion too.

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Speaker 2: Get worried about Christians, They don't they We are.

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Speaker 1: A secular society Australia, whether you like it or not.

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Speaker 1: You can complain as much as you like that. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: we're by and large in terms of numbers. We are

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Speaker 1: a secular society. That's not for dispute.

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Speaker 2: And I've worked with a few Christians in my time.

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Speaker 3: Remember Hearst used to do Temporary Australians the Motorcycle Show

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Speaker 3: with and Hirsty used to say to me, he said,

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Speaker 3: do you mind if.

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Speaker 2: I pray for you? And I said I'm happy for

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Speaker 2: you to pray for me. I like the idea of

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Speaker 2: someone praying for me. Greg that's a good thing. A

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Speaker 2: copy a bad thing, surely.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is where it's interesting. We've had some audio

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Speaker 1: that's been recorded of Scott Morrison at a Christian conference

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Speaker 1: last week saying he was called to do God's work

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Speaker 1: as a prime minister. He said, and there's some things

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Speaker 1: in here that have made people feel a bit uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: He said that when he would go to an evacuation site,

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Speaker 1: for example, after a flood or a fire, and he

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Speaker 1: would hug people, he said what he was doing was

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Speaker 1: actually doing laying on of hands. I saw someone yesterday

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Speaker 1: say that should be the new consent video Scott's hands.

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Speaker 1: So while working the role of the Prime minister, he

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Speaker 1: is practicing his faith with the laying on of hands

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Speaker 1: on people. Some people might go that's wonderful. Other people

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Speaker 1: may not be so sure. He said. Also he prayed

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Speaker 1: he's prayed to force state and territory leaders during the pandemic.

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Speaker 1: He said that before the election, before he became Prime minister,

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Speaker 1: the night before the election, he asked his pastor to

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Speaker 1: give him some advice and he turned he said, God,

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Speaker 1: I need you to give me a sign. And he said,

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Speaker 1: and there right in front of me was the biggest

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Speaker 1: picture of a soaring eagle that I could imagine, And

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Speaker 1: of course the verse hit me. The message I got

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Speaker 1: that day was Scotch, You've got to run to not

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Speaker 1: grow weary. You've got to walk to not grow faint.

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Speaker 1: You've got to spread your wings like an eagle, and

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Speaker 1: saw like an eagle. It's interesting to me, though, where

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Speaker 1: he draws the line as a Christian. And I think

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Speaker 1: about that family from Billa Wheeler, a much loved family,

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Speaker 1: part of their.

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Speaker 2: Community stug on Christmas Island.

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Speaker 1: In detention, not just costing the taxpayer millions of dollars

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Speaker 1: every year. But what kind of Christian act is that

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Speaker 1: those people who've caused no harm their community in Queensland

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Speaker 1: wants them who boasted about turning back the votes, the

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Speaker 1: man who seems to we talk about empathy, A lot

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Speaker 1: of people have said he lacks that empathy gene. He's

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Speaker 1: driven by what results seems good. He is driven by

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Speaker 1: his Christian faith and that's a wonderful thing. But where

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Speaker 1: does a Christian faith fall in other cases? He voted

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Speaker 1: against same sex marriage he said, he's fine for the

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Speaker 1: vote to take place. So his Christian values do inform

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Speaker 1: how he lives as a politician, and therefore those things

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Speaker 1: impact on us.

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Speaker 3: Hawky was an atheist, wasn't he? Or he was atheist

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Speaker 3: and then he changed to agnostic. An agnostic again, that's

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Speaker 3: a bit of a bet on its way, isn't it right?

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Speaker 1: I think you feel there's a higher force, but you don't.

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Speaker 2: He gets God.

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Speaker 3: You get there and you go, oh hang on, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I was into you man.

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Speaker 1: Well that's how we also judge Tony Abbott and some

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Speaker 1: of the decisions he was making because he was a

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Speaker 1: well known Catholic. He had been a priest in his time,

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Speaker 1: so we do know this about them. And everyone is

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Speaker 1: entitled in Australia, as I said, we may be a

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Speaker 1: secular society, but we're entitled to our religious freedoms, but

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Speaker 1: we are entitled to have an opinion about it if

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Speaker 1: it impinges on the decisions being made on our behalf.

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Speaker 2: What happens if we get a Muslim boss one day.

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Speaker 1: Well it could happen. Could happen. We are in a democracy,

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Speaker 1: we vote in who we like. Could absolutely happen. How

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Speaker 1: would you feel.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the religious should shouldn't be a part

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Speaker 2: of it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think, well this is this is so when

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Speaker 1: you're saying a different faith to the faith you'd think

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Speaker 1: of as our faith, curis isn't it makes you feel differently?

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Speaker 2: Well? I think it all? Does?

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Speaker 1: It all matters because if it changes your decision making,

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Speaker 1: it matters if we had a Muslim leader. Once again,

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Speaker 1: same thing you say to Scott Morrison, can you please

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Speaker 1: govern for all of us who don't share your faith.

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Speaker 2: Keep it in church man or the mosque, or the

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Speaker 2: temple or the hash ram.

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Speaker 1: But also we're allowed to acknowledge that by and large,

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Speaker 1: the majority of Australians don't don't make decisions based on faith.

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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda's gamination