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Speaker 1: Now, Samara Lavity has been at the forefront when it

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Speaker 1: comes to calling for changes around bail legislation and the

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Speaker 1: way in which we're dealing with crime in the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 1: Part of those calls for change have been at the

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Speaker 1: online petition, which has now got more than twenty six

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Speaker 1: thousand people who've signed that petition calling for change. The

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Speaker 1: petition's going to be debated in Parliament next week and

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Speaker 1: Leo Fanocchiaro is calling for standing orders to be suspended

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Speaker 1: so the debate can happen as soon as parliament resumes

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Joining me on the line is Samara Lavity.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Samara, good morning.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time this morning. Now, Samara,

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Speaker 1: has the government given you an indication of when this

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Speaker 1: petition is going to be debated?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I received at text this morning saying that it

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Speaker 2: actually now will be debated first seeing out of the

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Speaker 2: opening of parliament, so it will commence shortly after ten

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Speaker 2: am on Tuesday next week.

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Speaker 1: So that is that is good news, and I've got

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Speaker 1: to say I'm actually pretty surprised to hear that from

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Speaker 1: you this morning, Samara.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little bit surprised as well. It just shows

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Speaker 2: I think that they are finally starting to listen to

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Speaker 2: what people are asking for, which is a great start.

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Speaker 1: So, Samara, have they given you any indication at this

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Speaker 1: point in time as to whether that debate is going

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Speaker 2: No. I have asked that question and I haven't received

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Speaker 2: any answers to that. So my understanding is that at

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Speaker 2: this stage it will still be limited to the sixteen minutes.

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Speaker 1: Well, Leah Finocchiaro joined us on the show yesterday. She

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Speaker 1: is calling for this well for standing orders to be

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Speaker 1: suspended so that the debate can not only happen as

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Speaker 1: soon as Parliament resumes, but happen for longer. Do you

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Speaker 1: think that that is should be what should happen here?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, sixteen minutes to debate such an important topic

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Speaker 2: is it's barely a token effort to understand where not

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Speaker 2: only I, but twenty six thousand other people are coming

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Speaker 2: from in regards to their concerns about crime and knife

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Speaker 1: You're spot on, Samara. I mean, the thing is, like

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Speaker 1: I said to you last time we spoke, we have

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Speaker 1: never been in a situation as far as I know

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Speaker 1: where that volume of people have signed a petition, and

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Speaker 1: you know you've been at the forefront of that, and

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Speaker 1: your son is the reason that twenty six thousand people

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Speaker 1: have signed that petition. Because people want to see change,

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Speaker 1: they want to see the government take action, and I

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Speaker 1: think that the right thing to do next week in

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Speaker 1: Parliament is for the government to allow a proper discussion

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Speaker 1: to happen.

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Speaker 2: I completely agree. There's nine points in our petition. In

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Speaker 2: sixteen minutes, you would be flet out just reading what

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Speaker 2: those those points are, let alone discussing them or talking

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Speaker 2: about anything that has anything to do with making those

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Speaker 2: points a reality. Sixteen minutes, you couldn't even really debate

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Speaker 2: whether or not chocolate or vanilla I'm dream is better.

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Speaker 2: Let alone. Something's so important.

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Speaker 1: It's so rich. You know, I've spent sixteen minutes here

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Speaker 1: on the radio talking about things that are far less important,

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Speaker 1: far far less important, And I think that this is

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Speaker 1: what the community wants, this is what they are calling for,

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Speaker 1: and the government needs to listen. Samara. In Queensland yesterday,

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Speaker 1: There we've seen that here in the Northern Territory. We

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Speaker 1: now obviously have those twenty six thousand signatures to that petition.

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised that the government at this point is

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Speaker 2: Yes and no. The reality for us is that this

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Speaker 2: is what we've been dealing with since the nineteenth of March.

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Speaker 2: It just seems to be a very tokenistic knee jerk.

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Speaker 2: Let's just say what people want to hear, and then

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Speaker 2: let's not follow through with what needs to be done.

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Speaker 2: I just hope that out of all of this that

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Speaker 2: to community expectations. In sixteen minutes is just not enough

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Speaker 2: to meet that. Yeah, it's very far from it.

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Speaker 1: Samara. Are you going to be traveling here for Tuesday?

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Speaker 2: Yes? I am coming over on Monday to be present

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Speaker 2: in Parliament for that debate.

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Speaker 1: And will it just be you or is the rest

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Speaker 1: of your family going to be present for that debate

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Speaker 2: It'll just be me Brigitte. My daughter has to work,

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Speaker 2: so yeah, it will just be me.

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Speaker 1: Well are you anticipating that there will be other friends

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Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely. I've had quite a few people reach out

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Speaker 2: saying that they want to be there, and now that

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Speaker 2: we've got a more definitive time that will allow people

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Speaker 2: to support our family and hopefully show the government how

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Speaker 2: important this issue is to the community.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you, Samara. Do you think that

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Speaker 1: as well in a show of support.

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Speaker 2: I'm really not sure it is. Today is still only Thursday,

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Speaker 2: and it is Tuesday, so there's not a lot of

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Speaker 2: around work or other commitments that they have on But

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Speaker 2: we are hoping that as many people who are able

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Speaker 2: to come can come, and those who can't come now

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Speaker 2: have an idea as to what time they can tune

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Speaker 2: in to watch it live as well.

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Speaker 1: Well. Look, we'll make sure obviously I'll be on air,

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Speaker 1: morning as well. We'll stay in contact with you and

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Speaker 1: and yeah, you know, please do the same, and we'll

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Speaker 1: do our very best to make sure that everybody around

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Speaker 1: And I really hope that that debate gets the time

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Speaker 1: that it deserves.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. So do we. But that is the one

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Speaker 2: thing we are pushing for is please just listen to

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Speaker 2: what everybody else is saying. This cannot be debated in

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Speaker 2: sixteen minutes. It's too important for that. So hopefully they

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Speaker 2: some real meaningful change.

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Speaker 1: Well, Samara, I am going to be speaking to the

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Speaker 2: Thank you. We appreciate that more than we can express

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Speaker 2: to you.

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Speaker 1: That is no problem. Metal Samara, I really appreciate your time,

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Speaker 1: and maybe I'll get to catch up with you when

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Speaker 1: you're here next week.

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Speaker 2: I hope, so yeah, that would be lovely. I'll send

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Speaker 2: you a message when I get in.

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Speaker 1: Sounds good. Thank you, Samara, I appreciate your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: Thank you,