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Speaker 1: we've got the Deputy Chief Minister Jared Mayley, good morning

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Speaker 1: to you, Good.

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Speaker 2: Morning Katie, and good morning to your listeners.

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Speaker 1: Honda looking like they got caught in the rain. We've

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Speaker 1: got Matt Cunningham from Sky News, Good.

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Speaker 3: Morning to you, Mash morning will be And we've.

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Speaker 1: Got Duran Young, the acting Opposition leader. Good morning to you, Duran,

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Speaker 1: Good morning Katie and good morning to your listeners. And

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Speaker 1: both of you definitely got caught out there in the

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Speaker 1: rain this morning.

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Speaker 4: We sure do that there's worse people off than us.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: Some people are trying to get indoors and indoors quick.

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Speaker 1: It does seem to have settled down a tiny bit, thankfully.

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Speaker 1: And look, there's a lot to discuss this week. Of course,

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Speaker 1: I've been on leave for eight weeks, so there's plenty to.

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Speaker 3: Cover off on after I've been away.

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Speaker 1: But the topic that continues to be on the agenda

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Speaker 1: is the incoming administrator. We know that Hugh Heggy it

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Speaker 1: is his last day as the Northern Territories Administrator today

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Speaker 1: and the Northern Territory and of course making the decision

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Speaker 1: to announce David Connolly to be the King's pick the

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Speaker 1: next representative in the Northern Territory. But he's been criticized

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Speaker 1: for his social media footprint, with multiple posts appearing to

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Speaker 1: Albin Easy. The Prime Minister was in town this week

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Speaker 1: and he said he's not real worried about any comments

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Speaker 1: about himself. He's worried about whether this person is able

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Speaker 1: is appropriate. Matt, you were at that press conference, I

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Speaker 1: believe earlier this week. He didn't say he's going to

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Speaker 1: overturn this appointment, did he No.

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Speaker 5: He didn't, And I asked him as well about the

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Speaker 5: fact that Federal Cabinet had signed off on this appointment

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Speaker 5: in a process it seemed to take a long time.

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Speaker 5: You know, everyone was wondering why it had taken five months,

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Speaker 5: So maybe we've got a bit of an inkling as

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Speaker 5: to why now, But Federal Cabinet did sign off on that.

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Speaker 5: The Prime Minister made the point though, he said, that

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Speaker 5: is a formality, that is a convention. You know that,

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Speaker 5: to the best of his knowledge, has not been broken.

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Speaker 5: Before the Northern Territory government makes a recommendation, it's basically

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Speaker 5: Governor General, and they've obviously decided, well.

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Speaker 6: If he's your man, you go ahead.

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Speaker 5: You need to own and explain this decision, and I

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Speaker 5: think Anthony Albanez he said, well, it's not the choice

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Speaker 5: I would have made, but you know, questions around whether

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Speaker 5: he's the right man for the job, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, whether he'd seen some of those social media posts

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Speaker 1: would think that one of the first things you do,

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Speaker 1: either the Northern Territory or the federal government, one of

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Speaker 1: the first things you do is check someone's social media accounts.

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Speaker 5: Right, well, one hundred percent, And I know that the

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Speaker 5: Chief Minister, when she was asked about this a couple

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Speaker 5: of weeks ago, she said that she hadn't seen those

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Speaker 5: YEWS and I think the Independent both said well we've

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Speaker 5: sent them to your office.

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Speaker 6: You know, you can't say you haven't seen them.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 6: I'm curious about that. I'm curious.

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Speaker 5: Like you say, these things get vetted within an inch

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Speaker 5: Within Paden r Government hadn't weren't aware of this social

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Speaker 5: media commentary. Yeah, before maybe Jared has a better idea

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Speaker 5: before you know, he was picked as.

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Speaker 6: The man who's going to be the next administrator.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jared, you and I spoke about this earlier

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Speaker 3: Is he the right person for the job?

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Speaker 7: I back him in one hundred percent. He's a good bloke.

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Speaker 7: He's been in the territory a long time and you

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Speaker 7: look at his history Katie, what he's done. He's there

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Speaker 7: And that's what this role is really about. This is

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Speaker 2: And I'm confident him.

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Speaker 1: Twenty percent of the Northern Territory's population is Indigenous. You've

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Speaker 1: they're not prepared to work with him.

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Speaker 3: Sure, that's a.

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Speaker 2: Concerns a concern, but that's his role.

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Speaker 7: And hell, I can only assume that he'll go and

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Speaker 7: and that's what I expect him to do, and I'm

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Speaker 7: He'll he'll go in there and front foot this and

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Speaker 5: Is everyone in the CLP party wing on board with

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Look, we're a united team and we're supporting him.

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Speaker 7: We've made the decision and he's going to be the

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Speaker 7: next administrator, and yes, we're a united team.

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Speaker 5: I thought, I don't know what you've said it, but

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Speaker 5: there was an interesting post from Laurie Zeo in relation

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Speaker 5: you know, put forward the feelings of people in her

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Speaker 1: On well, and one would think that, you know that

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Speaker 3: What do you make of it all?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Look, it's pretty concerning disappointment of David Connolly. And

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Speaker 8: So I think Leaf and Okiiro, you would assume, would

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Speaker 8: concerned concerning enough. But also, you know, the amount of

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Speaker 8: And then he comes out with a weakened, gutless apology

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Speaker 8: that's why those posts were there.

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Speaker 4: I mean, good enough for him to make it good

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Speaker 1: Upon we put in a request to speak to the

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Speaker 1: incoming administrator, David Connolly. Cathleen, my producer had been you know,

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Speaker 1: But I also think it's really important that the government

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Speaker 7: Look, we did veting, but I hadn't seen those social

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Speaker 3: In So what do you think now that you've seen them.

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Speaker 7: I still support HM one hundred percent. And it's interesting

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Speaker 7: to drive out he's interested to say that he was vetted,

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Speaker 7: But what about Brent Potter When he was vetted, he

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Speaker 7: obviously the Labour's vetting system wasn't working because it didn't

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Speaker 7: So it's really funny that Durian comes outsease that the

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Speaker 6: But look, but.

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Speaker 5: When Brent Potters, when Brent Potter's post came out, correct

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but I'm saying that Durand just said that he's

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Speaker 7: this support mister Connolly one hundred percent and his administrator

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Speaker 7: is going to be signed in to run.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll let you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, I'm happy to speak to this.

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Speaker 8: And obviously those posts from Brent Potter were offensive, and

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Speaker 8: I'll be the first to meet here. I was one

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Speaker 8: he was obviously not elected, and that's the right.

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Speaker 4: Of the people.

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Speaker 8: The difference with this with the administrator is that this

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Speaker 8: is hand picked by Leo Finocchiara, or correct me if

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Speaker 8: I'm wrong, Jared. If that process goes through cabinet and

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Speaker 8: you all knew about it, did all the cabinet ministers

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Speaker 2: It was a cabinet decision, and.

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Speaker 1: Look, you know, I think it's a difficult situation now

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Speaker 1: that the Northern Territory government finds themselves in. Because mud

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Speaker 1: and you know, she was very cautious in what she

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Speaker 3: However, mud Sticks and I think that.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a difficult scenario for him now

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Speaker 1: in terms of going out to different communities, in terms

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Speaker 1: of being at at different events, and and you know,

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Speaker 1: fronting up I suppose, and trying to unite a community

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Speaker 1: that maybe isn't feeling as though he deserves that respect.

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Speaker 2: I think there's going to have to do. He's going

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Speaker 2: to have to front up and do the hard yard.

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Speaker 4: In a front up.

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Speaker 8: It's been thirteen I understand she's in National Cabinet now,

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Speaker 8: but even before then, it's been what eleven twelve days.

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Speaker 8: Now it's thirteen days, like she has not fronted up

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Speaker 8: at or to actually face the criticism and defend this decision.

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Speaker 1: Though, you guys actually have a look at this, and

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Speaker 2: Position, Katie.

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Speaker 7: We're not going to rethink it. Their decisions we made.

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Speaker 2: You're right, Matt.

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Speaker 7: He's got a difficult job to do. He needs to

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Speaker 7: He'll front foot this, who'll go and meet with those

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Speaker 5: I think that there's some interesting political ramifications of this.

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Speaker 5: And Duran made the point before about Brent Potter and

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Speaker 5: I think that's why we might were seeing her come

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Speaker 1: We're going to have to take a really quick break.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to Mix one oh four nine's three sixty.

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Speaker 1: It is the week that was. There is plenty to

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Speaker 1: it is the week that was the first one for

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Speaker 1: we've got the Deputy Chief Minister Jared Mayley, we've got

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Speaker 1: Now the national anthem, we know earlier this week the

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Speaker 1: The new policy Assemblies, special Events and the Australian National

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Speaker 3: Jerreed, Why was this decision made?

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Speaker 7: This is not about politics, This is about being an

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Speaker 1: Look, it's been largely supported by our audience. I have

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Speaker 1: you know, largely people haven't had an issue with this.

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Speaker 8: Look.

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Speaker 1: Of surprised when this announcement happened earlier in the week

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Speaker 3: My kids are obviously at school.

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Speaker 1: They sing the national anthem every time there is an assembly.

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Speaker 1: They don't sing the second verse, and I'm gonna be honest,

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Speaker 3: So obviously I'm gonna have to learn that.

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Speaker 1: But I was sort of surprised by this and wondered

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Speaker 3: But I'm always skeptical, Matt.

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Speaker 5: That's healthy skepticism. Will feel like, I don't I mean,

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know that national pride is

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Speaker 6: I love my country, you know, but I.

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Speaker 5: Don't feel the need to stand with my hand on

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Speaker 5: In fact, when I was a kid, if you sung

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Speaker 6: If you sung the second you'd be outright ridiculed.

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Speaker 3: I reckon.

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Speaker 6: So look, I don't know. Maybe it was a deliberate distraction.

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 5: Joe Hursey would absolutely reject that accusation. She would say

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Speaker 2: She's a very true territory.

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Speaker 7: She's been her whole life, being in Catherine her whole life,

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Speaker 7: and we're really keen to get up running because it's

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Speaker 2: I know Drhan Wrung.

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Speaker 7: Referred to as a terrorist act, which is pretty disgraceful,

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Speaker 7: I must say, but this is really about just being

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Speaker 6: Yeah, did you over cook that yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Look, it was a look, it was taken out of context.

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Speaker 5: But what I was so exactly I listened to I

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Speaker 8: The concern is, though, with this is around you know,

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Speaker 1: So do you reckon your words have been taken a

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Speaker 8: Yeah, like it obviously has. But I don't think you

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Speaker 4: But there is.

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Speaker 8: When we see this like this is a distraction from

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Speaker 5: I take your point on the on the you know,

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Speaker 5: Can I just read back to you, though, like, because

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Speaker 5: I don't want to take it out of context, exactly

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Speaker 8: Look what I've said, it's it's clearly there that the

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Speaker 8: But what I don't want to see is a mandate

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Speaker 4: And that's the point I was trying to make.

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Speaker 8: We should be like every child should be able to

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Speaker 5: I am curious about that point, Jared, because because one

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Speaker 6: These are the four versions they have to be.

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Speaker 5: And it must be sung in English like and I

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Speaker 7: We're saying this is about about being a being Australian,

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Speaker 6: That as we can't get more Australian than that, can you.

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Speaker 7: Be able to sing to the national anthem? And if

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Speaker 7: It looks, you know, it does, and I'm sure that

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Speaker 1: Issue, Why do I think, because you know what, like

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Speaker 1: But you know, look what I think we're starting to see,

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Speaker 1: really upset when I see, you know, some of the

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Speaker 1: language towards Aboriginal people. It makes me feel really upset

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Speaker 1: when I see, you know, some of the language about

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Speaker 1: not being.

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Speaker 3: Proud to be Australian as well. And I don't know.

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Speaker 1: How exactly we bridge that divide and I guess that's

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Speaker 1: you know, that's the ever growing question. But I do

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Speaker 1: believe that as a country and as a Northern territory,

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Speaker 1: we're better than that.

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Speaker 5: Well, I was talking about talking to my boss about

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Speaker 5: a similar thing this week because it was ten years

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Speaker 5: on Mondays since I did my first ever life cross

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Speaker 5: on sky and is right, and I did it from

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Speaker 5: the ute run right twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 6: I'm drowning in sweat.

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Speaker 5: I'm standing there, but I'm one of eight reporters as

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Speaker 5: we're going around the grounds to every state and territory

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Speaker 5: in the country where we're marking people coming together and

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Speaker 5: celebrate in Australia Day. So much has changed in ten years,

459
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Speaker 5: ten years down the track, I think I was about

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Speaker 5: the only reporter doing it. In Brisbane, they were talking

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Speaker 5: about a bloke burning the Australian flag and Invasion Day.

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Speaker 5: In Sydney, they're talking about a bloke making anti Semitic

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Speaker 5: remarks at March for Australia Rally in Perth. You know

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Speaker 5: there was the bomb homemade bomb thrown into the rally

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Speaker 5: in Melbourne. You know you've got you know, hundreds of

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Speaker 5: police having to separate Invasion Day protests from March for

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Speaker 5: Australia protesters. I mean, we're lucky that it really hasn't

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Speaker 5: taken off, but you've got to worry about well you do?

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Speaker 1: And do you know look, I think probably all of

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Speaker 1: us in this studio as well, like we're all parts

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Speaker 1: of families that have white and Aboriginal Australians in our families,

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Speaker 1: and I think it makes us all feel pretty bloody

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Speaker 1: upset when you see this division that's happening around the place.

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Speaker 3: And I guess, you know, it makes me feel really unhappy.

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm assuming that it makes everybody feel pretty

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Speaker 1: bloody sad to see it happening. And some of the gusting,

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Speaker 1: you know, language that I've seen as well. I, like

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Speaker 1: I said before, I just feel like we're better than that.

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Speaker 7: And you know, part of the national anthewer is about

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Speaker 7: passing those values onto our next generation, you know, the

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Speaker 7: young kids coming up through school and seeing Australia just

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Speaker 7: those values that we're old and everyone holds them in

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Speaker 7: Australia and maybe some different interpretations of them. But really,

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Speaker 7: if you're here, and you're in Australia, and you've come

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Speaker 7: here because you've come from a worst place and you've

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Speaker 7: here and you're now Australian citizen. I know at how

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Speaker 7: Spring's thirty eight people on Australia become Australian citizens. They

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Speaker 7: take the pledge or the promise. So it's really about

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Speaker 7: bringing those those values that we hold to a future.

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Speaker 1: And what's really what I've found really interesting, I guess

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Speaker 1: over the last six months or maybe longer, is as

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Speaker 1: you see what's happening you know, longer, probably as you

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Speaker 1: see what's happening around the world at the moment too.

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Speaker 1: You know, you've got America in the situation that they're

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Speaker 1: in in Minnesota. You've got you know, other countries at

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Speaker 1: war with one another. And I understand that we've got

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Speaker 1: our divisions and we've got our problems here in the

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory and in Australia. But gee, where lucky to

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Speaker 1: live in a country that is not at war?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Well absolutely.

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Speaker 5: But I remember watching a documentary about you know, social media,

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Speaker 5: maybe five or six years ago, and it was it

504
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Speaker 5: was interviewing you know, the people who've been behind designing

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Speaker 5: the algorithm and this sort of thing, and it finished

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Speaker 5: with the final scene where one of them is asked,

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Speaker 5: these American people where does this all end? And he says, oh,

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Speaker 5: civil war, and look at what's happening in an American now,

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Speaker 5: and we're seeing something similar happening here. You know, you

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Speaker 5: go back to Australia Day. There was a poll in

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Speaker 5: the Sydney Morning Herald this week and it showed that

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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty three, I think forty seven percent of

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Speaker 5: Australian supported Australia a still being on January twenty sixth

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Speaker 5: fourteen percent of post three years down the track, sixty

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Speaker 5: eight percent support Australia Day on the same day, sixteen

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Speaker 5: percent of pose. But what's really happened is the thirty

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Speaker 5: nine percent who were in the middle who were like, oh,

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Speaker 5: you know, I'm proud of my country, but I have

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Speaker 5: you know, I don't. I'm not really proud of the

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Speaker 5: way perhaps we treated Aboriginal people. You know, two hundred

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Speaker 5: and fifty years ago, that's been whittled out. You know,

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Speaker 5: people are just being pushed to the absolute extremes. You know,

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Speaker 5: you're either you're either marching on Invasion Day or you're

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Speaker 5: marching for Australia. You know, you're either you're either pledging

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Speaker 5: unquestionable allegiance to the Australian flag or you're setting it

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Speaker 5: on fire.

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Speaker 6: It's like there's nothing left in the middle, which is.

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Speaker 3: Concerning you know.

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Speaker 8: This is the issue I have, and speaking from being

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Speaker 8: an Aboriginal person myself, is that when you have March

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Speaker 8: for Australia Day rallies, like let's just hypothetically say that

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Speaker 8: I was to go down to Sydney or Melbourne and

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Speaker 8: actually attend one of those rallies, I don't know in

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Speaker 8: that crowd who's in our Nazi or not.

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Speaker 4: I understand that most people there are good people.

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Speaker 8: I get that, but I can't show my face there,

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Speaker 8: and a lot of Aboriginal people can't show their face

538
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Speaker 8: there because we have a serious threat against us and

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Speaker 8: we are concerned about the safety for us. And that's

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Speaker 8: the issue, and that's where it's come to with this.

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Speaker 8: But the way we need to do it is actually

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Speaker 8: have a mature, respectful conver about it from both sides

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Speaker 8: to be able to work through it as a nation.

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Speaker 1: Look, we are going to have to take a bit

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Speaker 1: of a break. It's twenty five minutes away from ten o'clock.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to three point sixty. It is the

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Speaker 1: week that was, You're listening to Mix one O four

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Speaker 1: nine's three sixty. It is the week that was in

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Speaker 1: the studio this morning. We've got Duran Young, Matt Cunningham

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Speaker 1: and Jared Mayley. Now we know that earlier this week,

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Speaker 1: of course, the Prime Minister Anthony Albanezy was in town

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Speaker 1: as we discussed en route to Team or lest with

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Speaker 1: some good news about the age care facility that we've

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Speaker 1: been waiting for. The Prime Minister announcing a major step

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Speaker 1: forward in that age care with the Queensland base not

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Speaker 1: for profit provider oz Can named the preferred partner to

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Speaker 1: build and operate the new residential age care facility in Palmerston.

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Speaker 3: Now this is a long time coming, you know.

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Speaker 1: This is an age care facility. I remember interviewing Natasha Files,

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Speaker 1: the former Health Minister, about and in the past we've

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Speaker 1: had that difficulty, I guess in terms of there not

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Speaker 1: being enough funding to be able to entice a provider.

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Speaker 3: So this certainly is very welcome news.

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Speaker 1: But I tell you what, you know, it cannot come

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Speaker 1: soon enough for those people in our community that have

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Speaker 1: members who are aging, family members who are aging, that

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Speaker 1: maybe need dementia support and that are forced to stay

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Speaker 1: in beds in Royal Darwin Hospital at this point in.

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Speaker 3: Time, because there's nowhere else.

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Speaker 1: They're in a hospital, one of our other you know,

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Speaker 1: territory hospitals. So it needs to happen. It needs to

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Speaker 1: happen fast. Who's going to be sort of managing the bill?

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Speaker 1: Does that come down to the Northern Territory government?

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Speaker 7: Look, I don't know, but I can assume it would

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Speaker 7: be because it's in the territory. But this this is

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Speaker 7: a long overdue promise and we're really keen to get

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Speaker 7: up and running because you're right getting these people out

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Speaker 7: of the hospital, because that will free up people who

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Speaker 7: are generally sick.

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Speaker 2: You better go to the hospital.

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Speaker 7: We know we've had Code yellow's and the hospital is

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Speaker 7: under strained at the moment. So those some eighty odd

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Speaker 7: Territorians who are in there because there's no other place

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Speaker 7: to go. We'll be able to move out that into

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Speaker 7: this age facility and we will push can you get

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Speaker 7: it done as quick as we can. We're going to

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Speaker 7: provide the land at Parmesan in the headworks. We'll get

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Speaker 7: that happening. It's really about getting this promise.

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Speaker 1: I mean, on top of this, obviously National Cabinet is

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Speaker 1: happening today with the ministers, and well, I believe it's

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Speaker 1: the Chief Minister.

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Speaker 3: She's there at the moment.

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Speaker 1: It's hope that a funding arrangement or agreement's going to

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Speaker 1: be reached. Regarding our hospitals. We've been discussing well. Towards

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Speaker 1: the end of last year, there's been a lot of

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Speaker 1: discussion on this show about the need for a new

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Speaker 1: hospital here in Darwin, a new tertiary hospital. God knows

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Speaker 1: how we're going to find funding for that though.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's like we need billions of dollars. It's

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Speaker 2: a big thing.

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Speaker 7: And you're right, our hospital literally falling down Come and Care.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, during the cyclone there was parts falling off the building,

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Speaker 1: which is a worry. I mean, it's it is important though,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like the area of health at the moment,

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Speaker 1: it's one of those things that it's always you know,

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Speaker 1: there's always underlying issues, but they until your family are

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Speaker 1: until you are impacted by those health issues, by those

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Speaker 1: issues with health and needing to get into the hospit

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Speaker 1: or needing to get into the healthcare system, you just

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Speaker 1: don't know, you know, how long you're going to have

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Speaker 1: to waste or what the situation is going to be

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Speaker 1: and we've got wonderful healthcare workers in the Northern Territory,

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Speaker 1: but we need to make sure that our healthcare system

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Speaker 1: is really up to, you know, the standard that we deserve.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we're two hundred million dollars under in relation to

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Speaker 7: that funding, and that's what the Chief Menders is down

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Speaker 7: there in National Cabinet now asking for it to try

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Speaker 7: and get that to be on par with the other states.

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Speaker 7: So at the moment we're I think we're about six

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Speaker 7: percent less, So we want to bring that up to

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Speaker 7: the two hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 2: And remember also in the rest of.

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Speaker 7: Australia, the Royal Flying Doctor Service does of the carriage

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Speaker 7: of the emergency services.

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Speaker 2: Up here, the helicopteries do Care Fly Carefly, so I

626
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Speaker 2: could remember that, so careful. That comes out of our budget.

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Speaker 7: So that's another cost to the charitory taxpayer, which impacts

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Speaker 7: the health system because it's ally under pressure.

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Speaker 5: I guess the counter argument is that eighty percent of

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Speaker 5: our funding comes from the federal government, so we rely upon.

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Speaker 2: The label to do that.

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Speaker 7: Where I've got communities all across the territory and we

633
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Speaker 7: get cut off every part of the year and Grand Electric.

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Speaker 4: Knows it this.

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Speaker 7: You can't get to some of the communities, and yet

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Speaker 7: people still get sick and they need to be able

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Speaker 7: to be flown out and it's important they do that,

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Speaker 7: and that service has to be offered.

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Speaker 2: It's it's a crucial service.

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Speaker 7: And unfortunately the federal government han't come to the party

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Speaker 7: in relation to that.

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Speaker 1: I mean how often, Like obviously when it comes to

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Speaker 1: health funding, we are reliant on the federal government, but

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Speaker 1: we also I mean it feels like we're not. We

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Speaker 1: don't have the best relationship with the federal government at

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Speaker 1: the moment. I could be wrong on that, but it

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Speaker 1: feels like it's quite combative often so that I'm like,

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Speaker 1: how do we go to the masking them for money?

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Speaker 7: But even last in the last term of government, the

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Speaker 7: last eight years, that's been a labor government and a

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Speaker 7: labor government for the last three years. Timement was for

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Speaker 7: the last treear So it really is just a matter

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Speaker 7: of you know, I don't think it's a political issue.

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Speaker 7: It's just the Feds have got to come to the

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Speaker 7: party and stump up the money for right across the territory,

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Speaker 7: all these communities that need to be evacuated they need

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Speaker 7: the health services and unfortunately in many years we've been

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Speaker 7: neglected by the federal government.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, look, I welcome the announcement of obviously the age

660
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Speaker 8: Care announcement of up to one hundred and twenty beds. Obviously,

661
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Speaker 8: that's going to take a lot of pressure off our hospitals,

662
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Speaker 8: our healthcare system. We know that a lot of the

663
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Speaker 8: elderly people are taking up beds in our hospitals, so

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Speaker 8: this will really take away those pressures from the hospital

665
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Speaker 8: as well. But yeah, in terms of hospital funding, I'm

666
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Speaker 8: really looking forward to seeing what comes out of today's

667
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Speaker 8: National Cabinet around the National Health Agreement. I'm hoping we

668
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Speaker 8: get a good outcome. I mean, that's up to how

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Speaker 8: well all the first heads of state negotiate and put

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Speaker 8: their points forward. And I think it's a good starting point.

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Speaker 8: But you know, it is crucial that you know, as

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Speaker 8: a territory government, it doesn't matter what side of politics

673
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Speaker 8: you are on, that you do need to build those

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Speaker 8: good relationships with the federal government. And you know, we've

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Speaker 8: seen time and time again this government just go out

676
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Speaker 8: and absolutely criticize and get personal with some of the

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Speaker 8: ministers in federal government. And that's not building relationships. That's

678
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Speaker 8: not being respectful. I think we need to have those

679
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Speaker 8: working relationships in place.

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Speaker 1: We've got to make sure we do because we rely

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Speaker 1: so heavily on that funding as well. Hey on to

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Speaker 1: another topic though, while the while the PM was in

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Speaker 1: well he was, I guess the topic always comes up

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Speaker 1: while he's here in the Northern Territory and that's the

685
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Speaker 1: Darwin Port. But I don't know Matt was he asked

686
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Speaker 1: much about it at the press conference earlier this week.

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Speaker 1: We know that Chinese ambassador has now come out and

688
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Speaker 1: spoken about it, but was elbow asked much about it

689
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Speaker 1: throughout the week.

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Speaker 5: It was a very short press conference. Wolfy went for

691
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Speaker 5: four minutes and twenty two seconds.

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Speaker 3: Is that it?

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Speaker 6: But I did get one question into the PM about

694
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Speaker 6: the DA.

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Speaker 5: And port and the problem with I mean, he's so good,

696
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Speaker 5: like you've got to give him credit. Here's the master

697
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Speaker 5: of handling a press conference, right, Because he goes, I'm

698
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Speaker 5: going to you you right, so you get your.

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Speaker 2: One question and that's it.

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Speaker 5: He can give you whatever garbage answer he wants. You

701
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Speaker 5: don't get an opportunity to butt back in. He said, no,

702
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Speaker 5: you've had your turn.

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Speaker 6: I said, they were.

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Speaker 5: So anyway, I did ask him about the port and

705
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Speaker 5: the point and because it's more nine months since he

706
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Speaker 5: promised he was going to take it back into Australian

707
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Speaker 5: hands in a very hastily arranged ABC radio interview four

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Speaker 5: o'clock on a Friday afternoon when he got win the

709
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Speaker 5: Dutton was going to do the same and it hasn't happened, right,

710
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Speaker 5: so now there's and he said that we're still going

711
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Speaker 5: to do it and rolled out the lines that they

712
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Speaker 5: always use about what a terrible decision it was by

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Speaker 5: the colp government of the day at the time, with

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Speaker 5: a federal coalition in power who gave them a financial

715
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Speaker 5: incentive to do it. That's his line, but he says

716
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Speaker 5: he's going to do it. But then it was interesting

717
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Speaker 5: that the Chinese ambassador came out the next day and

718
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Speaker 5: basically said, if you take this back by force, you

719
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Speaker 5: know there's going to be hell to pay. And I

720
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Speaker 5: think that'd be weighing pretty heavily on the Federal government's mind.

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Speaker 5: They backed themselves into a bit of a corner here.

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Speaker 5: Peter Dutton's announcement before the election was that if it

723
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Speaker 5: wasn't if a commercial deal couldn't be done in six months,

724
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Speaker 5: then they would compulsorily acquire it under the Defense Act.

725
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Speaker 5: That Labor didn't make the same promise. So you know,

726
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Speaker 5: we're now nine months down the track and there hasn't

727
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Speaker 5: been a deal done. And you've got to say, especially

728
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Speaker 5: on the back of what the Chinese ambassador said the

729
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Speaker 5: other day, Lambridge is in the greatest bargaining position of

730
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Speaker 5: any company ever in the world because they can just

731
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Speaker 5: sit back there and go, you have to you have

732
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Speaker 5: to buy this office, or you're going to pay.

733
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Speaker 6: Politically, I mean, what's your price.

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Speaker 5: There's one I think the NT News reported at one

735
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Speaker 5: stage that they're asking one point three billion.

736
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Speaker 6: I haven't heard Landbridge confirm that.

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Speaker 5: How much did they take pay five hundred million for

738
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Speaker 5: you that's a pretty good return on investment.

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Speaker 3: We'rep and another the point.

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Speaker 5: The other point the Chinese ambassador made that I thought

741
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Speaker 5: was a good one. He said, when we took this

742
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Speaker 5: port over, you know, he said, last year it finally

743
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Speaker 5: turned a profit. When they took it over, it was

744
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Speaker 5: literally sinking into the harbor. It was going to cost

745
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Speaker 5: god knows how much money in repairs and ongoing maintenance.

746
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Speaker 5: They've worn all of that cost, and so they're saying, well,

747
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Speaker 5: you know, now we've we've taken a basket case and

748
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Speaker 5: turned it into a profitable business, and.

749
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Speaker 6: Now you want us to want us to hand it back. So,

750
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Speaker 6: you know, it's going to.

751
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Speaker 1: Be really interesting to see how this plays out. And

752
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Speaker 1: I suppose we're in a you know, like the lay

753
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Speaker 1: of the land internationally at the moment is so different

754
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Speaker 1: to what it was when that when that lease was done.

755
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Speaker 1: As well, we know that, you know, international tensions are

756
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Speaker 1: sort of all over the place, for want of a

757
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Speaker 1: better word, I mean, Jared, how is it? How is

758
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Speaker 1: it going to play out? From the Northern Territory government's perspective?

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Speaker 1: Are you quite happy for Lambridge to continue to hold

760
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Speaker 1: on to this lease?

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Speaker 7: What we want is the Labor government to fulfill their promise.

762
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Speaker 7: You know, his owned apartment, Albou's own department, okayed it.

763
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Speaker 7: So he's in a tough situation.

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Speaker 3: He's the infrastructure minister, wasn't it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: There's been two defense reviews done. One was done in

767
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Speaker 5: twenty twenty three, just before Elbow flew to China, and

768
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Speaker 5: it came back and said that you know that the

769
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Speaker 5: security concerns, you know, weren't serious enough to force it

770
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Speaker 5: backtrain and hands. I'm paraphrasing there, but yeah, so so

771
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Speaker 5: that that was That was the I'm sure the Gosling

772
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Speaker 5: will text in and correct me on them. That was

773
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Speaker 5: the report I think in twenty twenty three. I don't

774
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Speaker 5: know whether times have changed since.

775
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Speaker 3: Then, but yeah, I don't know.

776
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Speaker 7: I think we all agree that Indivestris should come back

777
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 7: to Australian hands, but how it gets there is really

778
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Speaker 7: up to the federal government Albanieth in his team to

779
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Speaker 7: come up with the deal.

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Speaker 6: You wouldn't want it back in the Northern Territory government's hands,

781
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Speaker 6: they would you.

782
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Speaker 2: Well, we've got no money.

783
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Speaker 7: The FEDS already paid for that anyway, We're a complete

784
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Speaker 7: we're a fifteen million dollars yet from and we're literally.

785
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Speaker 1: Just talking about a hospital, a new hospital. And you go,

786
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Speaker 1: then if we're having to pay more than a billion

787
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Speaker 1: dollars for you know, to get our port back, yeah,

788
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Speaker 1: then that money would be very well spent on the.

789
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Speaker 2: Health health system and the education system, the police.

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Speaker 7: You know, we are in a world of hurd and

791
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Speaker 7: like we've got all these great facilian frontline people are

792
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 7: working hard, but they could always do with more resources.

793
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Speaker 7: So we need to spend tax payers money wisely.

794
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Speaker 2: That's what it is. Is not our money, is the taxpace money.

795
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Speaker 1: Look, we're going to take a bit of a break.

796
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Speaker 1: You are listening to Mix one O four ninees three sixty.

797
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: It is the week that was. You're listening to Mix

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Speaker 1: one O four ninees three sixty. It is the week

799
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Speaker 1: that was. In the studio this morning, we've got Duran Young,

800
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Speaker 1: Matt Cunningham and Jared Mayley.

801
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Speaker 3: Now we know that.

802
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Speaker 1: Earlier this week, of course, the Prime Minister Anthony Albanezy

803
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: was in town as we discussed en route to Team

804
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Speaker 1: or lest with some good news about the age care

805
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Speaker 1: facility that we've been waiting for. The Prime Minister announcing

806
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Speaker 1: a major step forward in that age care with the

807
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Speaker 1: Queensland base not for profit provider oz Can named the

808
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Speaker 1: preferred partner to build and operate the new residential age

809
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Speaker 1: care facility in Palmerston. Now this is a long time coming,

810
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Speaker 1: you know, this is an age care facility. I remember

811
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Speaker 1: interviewing Natasha Files, the former Health Minister, about and in

812
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Speaker 1: the past we've had that difficulty, I guess in terms

813
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Speaker 1: of there not being enough funding to be able to

814
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Speaker 1: entice a provider. So this certainly is very welcome news.

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Speaker 1: But I tell you what, you know, it cannot come

816
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Speaker 1: soon enough for those people in our community that have

817
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: members who are aging, family members who are aging, that

818
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: maybe need dementia support, and that are forced to stay

819
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Speaker 1: in beds in Royal Darwin Hospital at this point in time.

820
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Speaker 3: Because there's nowhere else.

821
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Speaker 1: We're in a hospital, one of our other territory hospitals.

822
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Speaker 1: So it needs to happen, it needs to happen fast.

823
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Speaker 1: Who's going to be sort of managing the bill? Does

824
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Speaker 1: that come down to the Northern Territory government.

825
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Speaker 7: Look, I don't know, but I can assume it would

826
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Speaker 7: be because it's in the territory. But this this is

827
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Speaker 7: a long overdue promise, and we're really keen to get

828
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Speaker 7: up and running because you're right getting these people out

829
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Speaker 7: of the hospital, because that will free up people who

830
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Speaker 7: are generally sick to be to go to the hospital.

831
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Speaker 7: We know we've had code yellows and the hospital is

832
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Speaker 7: under strained at the moment. So those some eighty odd

833
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 7: Territorians who are in there because there's no other place

834
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Speaker 7: to go, we'll be able to move out that into

835
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 7: this age facility and we will be pushing to get

836
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Speaker 7: it done as quick as we can. We're going to

837
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Speaker 7: provide the land at Parmesan in the headworks. We'll get

838
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Speaker 7: that happening. It's really about getting this promise.

839
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Speaker 3: On top of this.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, National Cabinet is happening today with the ministers and

841
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Speaker 1: well I believe is the Chief Minister chiefs there at

842
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Speaker 1: the moment. It's hope that a funding arrangement or agreement's

843
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: going to be reached. Regarding our hospitals, we've been discussing

844
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: well towards the end of last year, there's been a

845
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: lot of discussion on this show about the need for

846
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Speaker 1: a new hospital here in Darwar and new tertiary hospital.

847
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Speaker 1: God knows how we're going to find funding for that though.

848
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Speaker 3: I mean it's like we need billions.

849
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Speaker 2: A thing, and you're right, our hospital literally falling down

850
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Speaker 2: come Care.

851
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, during the cyclone there was parts falling off the building,

852
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: which is a worry.

853
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it is important though, and I.

854
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: Feel like the area of health at the moment, it's

855
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: one of those things that it's always you know, there's

856
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: always underlying issues, but they until your family are until

857
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: you are impacted by those health issues, By those issues

858
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: with health and needing to get into the hospital or

859
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: needing to get into the healthcare system. You just don't know,

860
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: you know how long you're going to have to wait

861
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Speaker 1: or what the situation is going to be. And we've

862
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Speaker 1: got wonderful healthcare workers in the Northern Territory, but we

863
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: need to make sure that our healthcare system is really

864
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: up to, you know, the standard that we deserve.

865
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Speaker 7: Yeah, well we're two hundred million dollars under in relation

866
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 7: to that funding, and that's what the Chief Miners is

867
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 7: down there in National Cabinet now asking for it to

868
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 7: try and get that to be on par with the

869
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 7: other stakes. So at the moment we're I think we're

870
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 7: about six percent less, so we want to bring that

871
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 7: up to the two hundred million dollars. And remember also

872
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 7: in the rest of Australia, the Royal Flying Doctor Service

873
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 7: does of the carriage of the emergency services up here.

874
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 2: The helicopteries do.

875
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 7: Care flight CareFlight, so I couldn't remember that. So careflow

876
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 7: that comes out of our budget. So that's another cost

877
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 7: to the charity taxpayer which impacts the health system because

878
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 7: it's all.

879
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: Really under pressure.

880
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 5: I guess the counter argument is that eighty percent of

881
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 5: our funding comes from the federal government, so we rely.

882
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 7: Upon the laborer to do that, and we're I've got

883
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 7: communities all acrothe territory and we get cut off every

884
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 7: part of the year and grand in electric notices. This

885
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 7: you can't get to some of the community. And yet

886
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 7: people still get sick and they need to be able

887
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 7: to be flown out and it's important they do that,

888
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 7: and that service has to be offered.

889
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: It's as a crucial.

890
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 7: Service, and unfortunately the federal government havn't come to the

891
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 7: party in relation to that.

892
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: I mean how often, Like obviously when it comes to

893
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: health funding, we are reliant on the federal government, but

894
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: we also I mean it feels like we're not We

895
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: don't have the best relationship with the federal government at

896
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: the moment. I could be wrong on that, but it

897
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: feels like it's quite combative often so that I'm like,

898
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: how do we go.

899
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 3: To the masking them for money?

900
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 7: But even last in the last term of government of the

901
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 7: last eight years, that's been a labor government and a

902
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 7: labor government for the last three years time in the

903
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 7: last year, so it really is just a matter of

904
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 7: you know, I don't think it's a political issue. It's

905
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 7: just the Feds have got to come to the party

906
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 7: and stump up the money for right across the territory.

907
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 7: All these communities that need to be evacuated, they need

908
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 7: the health services and unfortunately in many years we've been

909
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 7: neglected by the federal government.

910
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 4: Yeah.

911
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 8: Look, I welcome the announcement of obviously the age Care

912
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 8: announcement of up to one hundred and twenty beds. Obviously,

913
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 8: that's going to take a lot of pressure off our hospitals,

914
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 8: our healthcare system. We know that a lot of the

915
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 8: elderly people are taking up beds in our hospitals, so

916
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 8: this will really take away those pressures from the hospital

917
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 8: as well. But yeah, in terms of hospital funding, I'm

918
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 8: really looking forward to seeing what comes out of today's

919
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 8: National Cabinet around the National Health Agreement.

920
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 4: I'm hoping we get a good outcome.

921
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,919
Speaker 8: I mean that's up to how well all the first

922
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 8: heads of state negotiate and put their points forward, and

923
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 8: I think it's a good starting point. But you know,

924
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 8: it is crucial that you know, as a territory government,

925
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 8: it doesn't matter what side of politics you are on

926
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 8: that you do need to build those good relationships with

927
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 8: the federal government. And you know, we've seen time and

928
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 8: time again this government just go out and absolutely criticize

929
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 8: and get personal with some of the ministers in federal government.

930
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 8: And that's not building relationships, that's not being respectful. I

931
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 8: think we need to have those working relationships in place.

932
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: We've got to make sure we do because we rely

933
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: so heavily on that funding as well. Hey on to

934
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: another topic though, while the while the PM was in

935
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Speaker 1: well he was. I guess the topic always comes up

936
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: while he's here in the Northern Territory, and that's the

937
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: Darwin Port.

938
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 3: But I don't know Matt was.

939
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: He asked much about it at the press conference earlier

940
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: this week. We know the Chinese ambassador has now come

941
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: out and spoken about it, but was elbow asked much

942
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: about it throughout the week.

943
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 5: It was a very short press conference. Wolfy went for

944
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 5: four minutes and twenty two seconds.

945
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Speaker 3: Is that it?

946
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 6: But I did get one question into the PM about

947
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 6: the Darwin.

948
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 5: Port and the problem with it. I mean, he's so good,

949
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 5: like you've got to give him credit. He's the master

950
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 5: of handling a press conference, right because he goes, I'm

951
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 5: going to you you right, so you get your one

952
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 5: question and that's it and he can give you whatever

953
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 5: garbage answer he wants. You don't get an opportunity to

954
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 5: butt back in. He said, no, you've had your turn.

955
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 6: I said they were.

956
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 5: So anyway, I did ask him about the port and

957
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 5: the point and because it's it's more nine months since

958
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 5: he promised he was going to take it back into

959
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 5: its hands in a very hastily arranged ABC radio interview

960
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 5: four o'clock on a Friday afternoon when he got win

961
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 5: the Dutton was going to do the same. And it

962
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 5: hasn't happened, right, so now there's and he said that

963
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 5: we're still going to do it, and rolled out the

964
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 5: lines that they always use about what a terrible decision

965
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 5: it was by the COLP government of the day at

966
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,919
Speaker 5: the time, with a federal coalition in power, who gave

967
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 5: them a financial incentive to do it.

968
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 6: That's his line. But he says he's going to do it.

969
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 5: But then it was interesting that the Chinese ambassador came

970
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 5: out the next day and basically said, if you take

971
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 5: this back by force, you know there's going to be

972
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 5: hell to pay. And I think that'd be weighing pretty

973
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 5: heavily on the Federal government's mind. They backed themselves into

974
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 5: a bit of a corner here. Peter Dutton's announcement before

975
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 5: the election was that if it wasn't if a commercial

976
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 5: deal couldn't be done in six months, then they would

977
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 5: compulsorily acquire it out of the Defense Act. The Labor

978
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 5: didn't make the same promise. So you know, we're now

979
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 5: nine months down the track and there hasn't been a

980
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 5: deal done. And you've got to say, especially on the

981
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 5: back of what the Chinese ambassador said the other day,

982
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 5: Lanmbridge is in the greatest bargaining position of any company

983
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 5: ever in the world because they can just sit back

984
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,479
Speaker 5: there and go you have to you have to buy

985
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:16,959
Speaker 5: this office, or you're going to pay.

986
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 6: Politically, I mean, what's your price.

987
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 5: There's one I think the NT News reported at one

988
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 5: stage that they're asking one point three billion.

989
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 6: I haven't heard Lanmbridge confirm that.

990
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 5: How much did they take paid five hundred million for

991
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 5: ye that's a pretty good return on investment. And another

992
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 5: the point, the other point the Chinese ambassador made that

993
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 5: I thought was a good one. He said, when we

994
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 5: took this port over. You know, you said last year

995
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 5: it finally turned a profit. When they took it over,

996
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 5: it was literally sinking into the harbor. It was going

997
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 5: to cost god knows how much money in repairs and

998
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 5: ongoing maintenance. They've worn all of that cost and so

999
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 5: they're saying, well, you know, now we've taken a basket

1000
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 5: case and turned it into a profitable.

1001
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 6: Business, and now you want us to want us to

1002
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 6: hand it back.

1003
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: So, you know, there's something really interesting to see how

1004
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: this plays out. And I suppose we're in a you know,

1005
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: like the lay of the land internationally at the moment

1006
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: is so different to what it was when that when.

1007
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 3: That lease was done.

1008
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: As well, we know that, you know, international tensions are

1009
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: sort of all over the place for want of a

1010
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: better word, I mean, Jared, how is it, How is

1011
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: it going to play out? From the Northern Territory government's perspective?

1012
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: Are you quite happy for Lambridge to continue to.

1013
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 3: Hold on to this lease?

1014
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 7: What we want is the Labor government to fulfill their promise.

1015
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 7: You know, his owned department in Albou's own department, okayed it.

1016
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 7: So he's in a tough situation.

1017
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 3: He's the infrastructure minister.

1018
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 5: Was he, Yeah, there's been two defense reviews done. One

1019
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 5: was done in twenty twenty three, just before Elbow flew

1020
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 5: to China, and it came back and said that, you know,

1021
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 5: the security concerns, you know, weren't serious enough to force

1022
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 5: it back into Australian hands. When paraphrasing there, but yeah,

1023
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 5: so so that that was that was the I'm sure

1024
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 5: the Gosling will texting and correct me. Yeah, yeah, that

1025
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 5: was the report I think in twenty twenty three.

1026
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 6: I don't know whether times have changed since.

1027
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 3: Then, but yeah, I don't know.

1028
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 7: I think we all agree that indvestrients should come back

1029
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 7: to Australian hands, but how it gets there is really

1030
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 7: up to the Federal government, Albanezi and his team to

1031
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 7: come up with the deal.

1032
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 6: You wouldn't want it back in the Northern Territory government's hands, though,

1033
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 6: would you.

1034
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: Well we've got no money.

1035
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 7: The FEDS already paid for that anyway, so we're a

1036
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 7: complete well we're a fifteen million dollars yet.

1037
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: From and we're literally just talking about a hospital, a

1038
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: new hospital. And you go, then if we're having to

1039
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: pay more than a billion dollars for you know, to

1040
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: get our port back. Yeah, then that money would be

1041
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: very well spent on the health.

1042
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: Health system, the education system, the police.

1043
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 7: You know, we are in a world heard and like,

1044
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 7: We've got all these great facilitiy and frontline people are

1045
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 7: working hard, but they could always do with more resources.

1046
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 7: So we need to spend taxpayers money wisely.

1047
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 2: That's what it is. It is not our money, it's

1048
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: a tax pays money.

1049
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: Look, we're going to take a bit of a break.

1050
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: You are listening to Mix one oh four nine's three sixty.

1051
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: It is the week that was