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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: Weeks ago, I had no idea who Charlie Kirk was.

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Speaker 2: I had absolutely no idea, And when he was assassinated,

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Speaker 2: I had no idea who he was.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people didn't And you know those people

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Speaker 3: if you look at the pie chart, people who didn't

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Speaker 3: know who he was, and this tiny sliver who did.

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Speaker 3: But that tiny sliver has become this incredibly powerful some

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Speaker 3: say terrifying movement.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're doing candlelight vigils for this guy. You know,

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Speaker 2: Like as I said two weeks ago, I didn't even

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Speaker 2: know he existed, possibly because I'm not on X and

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Speaker 2: my algorithm's not tuned into him. But I certainly know

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Speaker 2: who he is now. And I was watching the Charlie

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Speaker 2: Kirk memorial yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Memorial or I don't know rally.

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Speaker 2: It went for five hours.

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Speaker 3: Quite extraordinary. It was a gathering in Arizona for Kirk's

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Speaker 3: memorial service. What needs to be said is that two

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Speaker 3: things can be true at the same time. A Boren's

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Speaker 3: at what happened to Charlie Kirk. He was a opponent

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Speaker 3: of free speech, and he should have been allowed to

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Speaker 3: say whatever he wanted to say. That's what he wanted,

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Speaker 3: was open discourse. He did he should not have been

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Speaker 3: assassinated in that way. You can you can say that

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Speaker 3: and still not approve of what he said without making

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Speaker 3: those two things the same thing. But it was very

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Speaker 3: interesting watching this memorial yesterday. His widow, Erica, spoke absolutely beautifully.

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Speaker 3: She was the one who stood up there in the

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Speaker 3: midst of flashing lights like one of those flash pots.

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Speaker 2: Called it was like kiss were about to beform.

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Speaker 3: It was quite extraordinary and a memorial, and for a funeral,

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Speaker 3: a memorial. She was the only one from the family

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Speaker 3: who was there. No reference to siblings, to parents, to anything. Politicians, yes,

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Speaker 3: but Erica spoke so beautifully.

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Speaker 4: My husband he wanted to save young man, just like

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Speaker 4: the one who took his life on the cross. Our

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Speaker 4: Recevior said, Father, give them for they not know what

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Speaker 4: they do.

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Speaker 5: That man, that young man, I forgive him. I forgive

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Speaker 5: him because it was what Christ did and is what

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Speaker 5: Charlie would do.

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Speaker 4: The answer to hate is not hate. The answer we

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Speaker 4: know from the Gospel is love and always love, love

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Speaker 4: for our enemies, and love for those who persecute us.

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Speaker 3: She spoke in such a presidential straordinary way. And then

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Speaker 3: the actual president got up.

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Speaker 1: He did not hate his opponents. He wanted the best

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Speaker 1: for them.

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Speaker 2: That's where I disagreed with Charlie. I hate my opponent

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Speaker 2: and I don't want the best for them.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I am sorry.

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Speaker 3: Erica, apologizing to Erica or to the people of America.

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Speaker 3: Well done, extraordiny. And then we have Stephen Miller, who's

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Speaker 3: the White House Deputy chief of Staff. He's the top

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Speaker 3: advisor to President Trump, and well he would crazily off

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Speaker 3: peace to have a listen.

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Speaker 1: You are nothing. You can build nothing, you can produce nothing,

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Speaker 1: you can create nothing. We are the ones who bailed.

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Speaker 1: We are the ones who create. We are the ones

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Speaker 1: who left up humanity. You thought you could kill Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 1: You have made him a mortal. You have immortalized Charlie Kirk,

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Speaker 1: and now millions will carry on his legacy.

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Speaker 3: This is a memorial. It's right, and it's a danger.

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Speaker 3: One man killed Charlie Kirk, but this has been politicized

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Speaker 3: to look like a whole movement. Has one man killed him.

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Speaker 3: Most people, I would like to think, are appalled by that.

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Speaker 3: But yes, that was a memorial yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Did you see the aftermath though. There was like fold

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Speaker 2: up chairs, bee cans in the car park. It was

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Speaker 2: it was like a football game.

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Speaker 3: I was, yeah, happy to leave their mess behind. It's

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Speaker 3: an extraordinary time in American politics, history, ideology, all of that.

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Speaker 2: In the meantime, thank god we live in a stride.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely