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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, Good morning Katy.

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Speaker 1: It's lovely to have you in the studio, both of you. Freda,

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Speaker 1: much for joining us. Now tell me what was it

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Speaker 1: Talk me through what you were doing that night.

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Speaker 2: Oh night, I had television on and I was a

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Speaker 2: I was listening to that, and they said something Saint

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Speaker 2: then the wind was getting stronger and that, and and

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Speaker 2: So I have to worry, you know, with that. But

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Speaker 2: Well, I think I was probably sedated and that, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Well, I had done in Bridgbane there, I had many

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Speaker 2: I have that im plaster and everything like that. Freem

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Speaker 2: Maybe there, I probably was, because they brought her in

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Speaker 2: we had absolutely nothing for her there this Salvation family.

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Speaker 2: Because when when got off the plane, she was handed

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Speaker 1: And so so your your husband stayed back in Darwin

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Speaker 2: He never really talked about it, you know, he never

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Speaker 1: And that and so so, Brenda, you were a salvation Army.

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Speaker 2: We came. I came back on the nineteenth of March, yeah,

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Speaker 4: You know, so I believe they looked after me for

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Speaker 4: about six months, wasn't it, mon Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, no, And you're seeing those photos now that tag

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Speaker 1: When you look at the way that you know that

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Speaker 1: sort of make you feel through through what's been such

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Speaker 3: Do you look at the place.

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Speaker 1: And think, what an amazing you know, what an amazing feat?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh when it gets around about that time, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you get scared when you're you're always making sure you're

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Speaker 2: you will also have things you know you never forget,

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Speaker 2: you never. I still have trouble my leg. I still

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and freedom, how do you feel as we

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Speaker 3: I I won't be able to listen tomorrow, and we'll

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Speaker 1: I'll forgive your freedom. But I first met you a

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Speaker 1: And I found out then that you're a cyclone tracy

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's beautiful to think now, you know,

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Speaker 4: Still live here, living here. Yeah, we're still here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. And like and you know, when

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Speaker 1: but gee whiz, we are like people are truly territory tough.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't get much tougher than you. Freda. I tell you.

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Speaker 2: Funny things in the story, dude, because I forgot to

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Speaker 2: I must have been all right. I said, I'm not

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Speaker 2: going without my teeth. I'm not. They couldn't find no

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Speaker 1: Lucky, lucky. I wouldn't go without my It's lovely to

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time. I really really

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Speaker 1: so much.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Kate, lovely, thank you.

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Speaker 3: He laid a fine