1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Now, there is plenty happening in the Federal Parliament at 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: the moment, and quite a bit happening when it comes 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: to our local federal representative, Luke Gosling pushing for a 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: few different things right now. Now, I know that the 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: federal government's announced that they're moving to boost supermarket competition 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: in the Northern Territory. Jim Chalmer's announcing the Commonwealth it's 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: going to give the Northern Territory government about one point 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: two million dollars to help cut red tape and make 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: it easier for new supermarkets to open. Now, Luke Gosling 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: joins me on the line from Canberra. He's just stepped 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: out of the chamber, I believe. Good morning to you, Luke. 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for taking the time to have a 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: chat with us. Luke, you've been pushing for some competition 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: when it comes to our supermarkets for quite some time. 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: What are you hoping that this announcement's going to mean 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: for the Northern Territory. 18 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: Well, then it's going to make it easier for a 19 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: new provider of supermarkets, goods groceries to set up in 20 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: the territory. Obviously there's been a lot of talk about Eldi, 21 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: but it's really setting the conditions to make it easier 22 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: for any new entry into our market to get set 23 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: up quickly by getting through any planning delays red tape. 24 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: So it's the federal government assisting the NT government to 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: help get some increased competition and lower grocery prices for 26 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: your listeners. 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. I know there's been a lot of talk about Eldie, 28 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: you and I have spoken about it before, but I'm like, 29 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 1: if they don't want to come here, can we try 30 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: someone else? 31 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, And during this process of trying to get 32 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: ELDI to who have gone right up into Northern Queensland 33 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: to also make the jump into the Northern Territory, there's 34 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: been many constituents, people in Darwen and Palmerston that have said, 35 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: why don't you try this mob or that mob if 36 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: Eldie just remain unin interested in coming up and helping 37 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: us with our lack of competition up here. So there 38 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: are other options, and this funding support to the ANTI 39 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: government to get rid of some of the red tape 40 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: and planning delays is really going to help get someone in. 41 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: So that's not just the two majors. There's going to 42 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: be a third player and that's what we're all working 43 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 2: towards now. 44 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: Luke, I understand that there's also a bit of an 45 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: update when it comes to the aged care facility which 46 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: was announced before the election for us here in the 47 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: Northern Territory. Where are things at? 48 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big day today because the expression of 49 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: interest process is open today to identify a delivery partner 50 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: to take that sixty million dollars of federal funds to 51 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: build a new age care residential facility in Darwin or Palmerston. 52 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: The Northern Territory government has got some land in Palmerston 53 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: that they've identified for it, but the EERY process doesn't. 54 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: It's not just fixed to one location. That depends on 55 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 2: the AOI process and who's keen to take that sixty 56 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: million dollars and show the Anti government and the federal 57 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: government that they've got an age care solution and then 58 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: that funding helps them to build the facility. And then 59 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: there's a review on as well for how much funding 60 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: the service providers residential age care service providers get per 61 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: resident to help with that operation costs as well. 62 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: So look, how soon do you hope that we have 63 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: a service provider well identified or locked in and how 64 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: quickly do you think that construction could get underwy. 65 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: One thing? And I've met with the Minister this morning 66 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: and over the last couple of days to nail down 67 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: the EERI process how long it's open for. What will 68 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: happen then is that there will be a review to 69 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: see which ones look like they're the most credible, which 70 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: service providers linked with a builder is going to give 71 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 2: the most confidence to be able to build that facility 72 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: and operate that facility, and then they'll be asked to 73 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: put in a more detailed plan with a view to 74 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: construction getting underway in the dry season next year. So 75 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: over this period of Christmas and into the new year, 76 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: that detailed planning. Once the EERI process has identified the 77 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: likely provider, well, we. 78 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: Know it's going to have such a big impact on 79 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: our hospital in a positive way in terms of getting 80 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: people into those beds, but also for those seniors that 81 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: actually need us specific specialized bed not being stuck at 82 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: a hospital you know where it's much more difficult I 83 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: would imagine for them to be able to get the 84 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: rehab and the other needs that they need to have 85 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: met needing to actually be able to do all of that. 86 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, Katie. For a long time, constituents have 87 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 2: identified and the previous NT government went through a process 88 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: to try and find a service provider with land available 89 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: from the NT government, but that wasn't successful. So that's 90 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: why the federal government has stepped in with the sixty million, 91 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: acknowledging the price of construction in the North and to 92 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: really be in partnership with the NT government to get 93 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: the one hundred and twenty beds up and running, to 94 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: not only take the pressure off our hospitals, but to 95 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: give senior Territorians a more dignified life living in a wonderful, 96 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: brand new facility. It's very much needed and if I 97 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 2: can just close off on that issue of the expressions 98 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: of interest, Katie, they closed on the twenty seventh of November, 99 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: so about a month from now, and then what will 100 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: be taking into account the ability for a provider to 101 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: co contribute some funding obviously we want then have some 102 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: skin in the game, and also we'll look at their 103 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: capacity to deliver within the period of around two years 104 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 2: to build it, so from this dry season to build 105 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: it in that period so that we can get our 106 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 2: seniors into it as quickly as possible. 107 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: Luca quick One. Yesterday on the show, we spoke about 108 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: the latest domain house price Starter showing the median price 109 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 1: in Darwin sitting at six hundred and fifty six thousand 110 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: dollars with a steady increase and it's jumped in the 111 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: last six months. We caught up with Ruth from the 112 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: Property Council. She said the numbers can't be ignored and 113 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: that she's spoken to you and I think nationally the 114 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: Property Council has also reached out to the Housing Minister 115 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: about the time bias scheme and that six hundred thousand 116 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: dollar cap being lifted. Where are things at from your perspective, Yeah. 117 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: I have been in touch with the Property Council and 118 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:19,559 Speaker 2: other stakeholders as well. Just for your listeners to understand 119 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: how that was set. It was taking into account. The 120 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: idea of this program is to get first homeowners into 121 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: their first home, so then the definition of a home 122 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: is both units, apartments and houses. There's been about twelve 123 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: hundred people in Darwen and Palmerston utilize this facility to 124 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: get into their first home. When it comes to houses, 125 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: and that's the data you're referring to. We know that 126 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: there's very few offerings every weekend for a standalone house. 127 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: So I've written to the Housing Minister to let her 128 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: know that there is for houses an increase in the market, 129 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: which means that people that want to get into a 130 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: house are finding it difficult to use the five percent 131 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: setting and that it be reviewed. There's a lot of 132 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: homes under six hundred, when units and apartments and so 133 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: forth that people are wanting to get into, and as 134 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: I said, about twelve hundred so far I've done that. 135 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: But yeah, there's a difference between a home and a house. 136 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: A home can also be a unit. 137 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: That's right, and we have all and things like that 138 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: come into play as well for a lot of those 139 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: first time buyers and sometimes your body corporate fees they're 140 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: really expensive and so go all right, well can we 141 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: do it different? So just to confirm, So you've written 142 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: to the Housing Minister and you're hoping to have that reviewed. 143 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I mean our policy is to review it 144 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: over time to make sure it keeps up with the market. 145 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: So far it's doing that for those wanting to get 146 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: into a first home when that home is a unit 147 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: or an apartment. But as I said in my letter 148 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: to the Minister. We're seeing an increase in the market 149 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 2: for standalone houses, so we'll be reviewing that over time. 150 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 2: The NT Treasury is where we've been tracking the median, 151 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: which is the middle rate for dwellings, so we'll keep 152 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: an eye on that. And it's now with the Minister. 153 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 2: Brought it to her attention that for houses we will 154 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: need to see an increase over. 155 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: Time, which I think is a good move. I think 156 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: people will be pleased to hear that loud quick one 157 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: before I let you go. I know that there's also 158 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: the federal government's released the terms of reference or a 159 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: Productivity Commission inquiry into regional air fes. Is this going 160 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: to help us to get those prices down? 161 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, it's going to help to the biggest way. 162 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 2: It's going to help when this come out of a 163 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: deep dive we did in the Aviation white Paper. And 164 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: obviously I'm talking to the Ministry a lot about we 165 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: pay fifty percent more for our regional airfares than others 166 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: going between capitals down south. So the Productivity Commission we'll 167 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: be looking at competition pricing practices and so what happens 168 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: then is the airport itself, but also the operators and 169 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: everyone in that supply chain of providing services aviation services. 170 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 2: We're going to look at the profit margins across that 171 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 2: supply chain. Who's taking how much, where and when and 172 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 2: who's paying. Now we know that anecdotally it's US that's 173 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: paying territorians of pain, but this is a deliberative process 174 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,479 Speaker 2: where people have to go on the record and explain 175 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 2: how they are making sure that territorians are getting a 176 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: fair deal. We know we're not currently, but this dissects 177 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: each part of the supply chain to see who is 178 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 2: gouging and by how much. And that pressure will mean 179 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 2: that you know, we can continue to have well, not 180 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 2: only safe, but we can start to have more affordable 181 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: as well as more reliable air services in remote areas. 182 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: And obviously for the territory, that's incredibly important to connect 183 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: people around the territory and connect people to down South 184 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: as well. 185 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, Luke, will have to let you go, We've 186 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: got to get across to the national news. But I 187 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: will mention the fact that you are still hoping to 188 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: find a couple of families who served in the Korean War. 189 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: Will their family member did so I'll give that a 190 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: mention a bit later on. Thanks so much for your 191 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: time this morning. 192 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 2: Good on you, Katie, Thanks you