1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families Podcast. It's the podcast for. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 2: The time poor parent who just wants answers now. 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: All this week on the Happy Families Podcast, we are 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: talking about time crunch moments today, mornings, those moments where 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: the pressure is on, We're parents are kind of freaking 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: out and the kids are not necessarily being compliant. We 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: thought it was a helpful idea given that school has 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: gone back about a week ago now. For Queensland and Victoria, 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: we're studying week two of school term four, New South 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,319 Speaker 1: Wales the Act and WA it's week one. School goes 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: back today or tomorrow, depending on which school your kids 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: are going to. South Australia, Tassy, they've got one more 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,319 Speaker 1: week of holidays. They started their holidays a bit later 14 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: than everyone else. But mornings, Kylie, time crunch moments. 15 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: We've spoken a lot about this on the podcast in 16 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: recent times, and specifically about the routine and structure that 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: we've created around our. 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: Mornings, making mornings magic. Thinking. He's evolved, hasn't it since 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: we started talking about this a while ago. 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: Well, our children have grown too, and so that definitely 21 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: makes a difference. We're dealing with a nine year old 22 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: and a couple of teenagers, which is very different to 23 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: dealing with than when they were in primary school altogether. 24 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: So what we thought we would do here is for 25 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: those of you who are new to the podcast or 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: need a refresher on making mornings magic, we thought we 27 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: would share the old ideas that we've probably shared on 28 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: the podcast once or twice previously, but then we want 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: to step into how our thinking around these ideas has evolved, 30 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: partly because we've changed, partly because our own circumstances have changed, 31 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: but also partly because every family needs different ideas to 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: make this stuff work. So I'm going to whizz through 33 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: our old ideas and then Kylie is going to step 34 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: through our new ideas the evolution of how to make 35 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: mornings magic. So in the old days, it was very 36 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: much about getting the kids independent, about getting the kids 37 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: to make stuff happen. The first thing that we've always 38 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: emphasized is that the morning begins the night before. This 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: means getting uniforms ready, or getting school bags ready, or 40 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: making decisions about the next day before bed, things like 41 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: what are we going to have for breakfast, what are 42 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: we going to have for lunch, making sure that the 43 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: right stuff's in the fridge so that everything goes smoothly 44 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: the next day. Morning begins the night before, especially in 45 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: terms of prep and decisions, core components that really haven't 46 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: changed even with the new thinking. But you'll talk more 47 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: about that shortly. We also focused very much on making 48 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: sure that we got up ten fifteen minutes earlier than 49 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: we normally would so that we could be ready, and 50 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: then getting the kids up ten fifteen minutes earlier so 51 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: that they've got a bit more margin in their morning 52 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: they don't have to rush. But essentially, at the very 53 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: core of it, the making Morning's Magic formula that we 54 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: built is about keeping the kids moving, getting them following 55 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: their list, making sure that they've got plenty of autonomy 56 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: and what's happening, and being there to support them while 57 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: they do it. So that's the old way and it 58 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: served us very very well for the majority of our 59 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: child rearing, with all six of our kids, Kylie, things 60 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: have changed. We have some new ideas. How do you 61 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: think that mornings have shifted as we've just kept on 62 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: practicing and practicing the things that are important to us. 63 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: So with teenagers in the house, it's a little bit 64 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: harder to get them up, so early in the mornings, 65 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: and I just was noticing that it was actually causing 66 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: a bit of contention. 67 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, from about the age of what maybe eleven or twelve, Yeah, 68 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: we find that the kids don't want to get up anymore, 69 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: like when they're little, they can't wait to get out 70 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: of bed, and then they're. 71 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: Usually jumping or knocking on the door, jumping on our bed, 72 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: knocking on the door to wake us up way too early. 73 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: But I realized that this was causing a lot of 74 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: anngs in the house, and I just I wanted to 75 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 2: take that away. And so one of the things that 76 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: we've done. While we still recognize that the best mornings 77 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: begin the night before, we've let the kids sleep in 78 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: a little bit more right and given them just a 79 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: much slower start. You and I are very different with mornings. 80 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: I really like to just wake up in my own time, 81 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: and I might read for ten or fifteen minutes. I 82 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 2: really just enjoy being able to be there without the 83 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: necessity to jump out of bed. 84 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: And I jump out of bed at about four thirty 85 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: and go and ride or swim or run or do something, 86 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: and I come back at six thirty or seven o'clock. 87 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: A million miles an hour. I'm like, why is everyone 88 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: still in bed? What's going on? So there's been a 89 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: hard adjustment for me to step into a slower start 90 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,119 Speaker 1: to the day, but it has felt different and felt good. 91 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: It's felt way better, and the kids have responded better 92 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 2: to it. So that idea that fast is slow and 93 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 2: slow as fast, I think, has really come to fruition 94 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: in our morning routine. 95 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: And we actually talked about this just recently on and 96 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: I'll do better tomorrow. You had said to me, we 97 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: need to slow down so we can go fast. It's 98 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: kind of like when you're doing a maths problem with 99 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: a child who is doing long division or doing some algebra, 100 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: and they're getting a head full of steam. They're getting 101 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: really emotional and they keep on making mistakes, but when 102 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: you slow them down, they actually move through it more 103 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: fluently with fewer mistakes because the process is happening gently. 104 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: It's the same thing, right. We've taken the rigidity and 105 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: the pressure out of the mornings, which is really hard 106 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: to do because sometimes you've got to get out the 107 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: door there is stuff to be done. But this seems 108 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: to be working. 109 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: Because everything's done the night before. Their uniforms are out, 110 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 2: their school bags are packed, their shoes are ready to go. 111 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: In the morning, they literally have to get up, put 112 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: their uniform on, have some breakfast, brush their hair, brush 113 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: their teeth, and except for making a few decisions around lunch, 114 00:05:58,400 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: they're done. 115 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: And we have found so very much that by making 116 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: those decisions about breakfast and lunch the night before, even 117 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: that makes things so much smoother. I mean, when the 118 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: kids don't know what to have for breakfast, you end 119 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: up waiting fifteen or twenty minutes while they stare at 120 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: the fridge, and they stare at the pantry and they 121 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: get distracted and they don't want to do this, or 122 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: they want something but we don't have it, and so 123 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: you've got to work out how in the world do 124 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: I leave the kids here and have time to get 125 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: to the shops. Like it's really really tricky to do 126 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: all of that. There's got to be better solutions, and 127 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: we've found that that night before, making those decisions, especially 128 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: around the food stuff, makes such a difference. 129 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: And I think the other thing that's been really important 130 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 2: with the changes we've made is that you and I 131 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 2: are a lot more involved. In the early days, we 132 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: kind of gave them their list, and we created the 133 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: structure and the routine for them, but we tried to 134 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: give them the autonomy to work through the list at 135 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: their own pace and in their own way. But it 136 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: meant that we were kind of constantly kind of having 137 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: to jab at them. It's what it felt like to them. 138 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: I'm sure you know these gentle reminders, but at the 139 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: end of the day, Mum and Dad are just aut 140 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: me all the time. I've got to keep moving through. 141 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: Whereas by doing what we've done, we've actually taken a 142 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: lot of things of the less The kids used to 143 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: have to do jobs in the morning before school, but 144 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: because we've actually got a longer commute than we've had 145 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 2: for a little while, we just kind of felt like, 146 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: let's just simplify this. Let's just make this as peaceful 147 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: as start to their day as possible, because it sets 148 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: them up beautifully. 149 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So slowing things down, making decisions ahead of time, 150 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: being involved, and being part of the process, and simplifying 151 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: they're the four amendments. They're the four ways that our 152 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: magic mornings have evolved. And what has happened as a 153 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: result of that is that our children are easier to 154 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: deal with and in slowing down, we do see that 155 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: things get done with a whole lot less fuss. One 156 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: question that I think a lot of people will be 157 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: listening to this conversation and feeling free straight up by 158 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: is but what about those days where you've got a hurry? 159 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: What about those days where you've got to get out 160 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: the door, and for some families that is kind of 161 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: every day, right, What do you do on those days? 162 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: The key to everything is everything begins the night before. 163 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: So if you know that you've got an early start tomorrow, 164 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: then maybe it means it's a pre packed lunch, so 165 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: it's actually all done the night before. But what I've 166 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: actually noticed we've had a couple of mornings at the 167 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: end of term where we had to be there half 168 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: an hour early, like it was a big deal. We're 169 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: usually maybe on time and maybe a little bit not 170 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: on time a lot of the time. But this was 171 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: a particularly stressful morning. But I noticed that it actually 172 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: wasn't stressful because everything had been done the night before 173 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: and it was just and that morning I actually said 174 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: to the kids, We're not even going to make lunches today. 175 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: You can just have touch shop. It was a really 176 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: easy way to kind of get out of the stress 177 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: and the strain and get out the door on time. 178 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: Until we got a flat tire and that changed everything fast. 179 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: You can't plan for everything. 180 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: You can't plan for everything, I know. But I think 181 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: what's critically important here is when you do the prep, 182 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: when you know what you need, when you make arrangements 183 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: to get things organized, when decisions are made ahead of time, 184 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: you can slow things down. The other thing is we 185 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: often make a big deal about leaving on time when 186 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: the deadlines aren't nearly as serious as we make them 187 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: out to be. 188 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 2: And I think what I'm noticing in our kids is 189 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: that they just live in this world of rush all 190 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: the time. You know, I talk to you about one 191 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: our nine year old who constantly is frustrated because she's 192 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: halfway through something at school and she's told she has 193 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: to pack up and move on to the next subject. 194 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: It's like they don't ever get time to just move 195 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: through things at their own pace. They're always being shoved 196 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 2: to the next activity, the next activity. So whatever I 197 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 2: can do on my end to just slow things down 198 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: and allow them to have the time that they need 199 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: to transition in more natural ways, the better and happier 200 00:09:58,960 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: my children. 201 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: Are making Morning's magic, the old and the evolved. We 202 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: hope that this has been helpful for dealing with those 203 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: time crunch moments in your family across the next week 204 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: or so as the kids head back to school. Thank 205 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: you so much for listening to the Happy Families podcast, 206 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: produced by Justin Rawan from Bridge Media. 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