Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms flexen fromes. This is the Flex and
Speaker 1: Frooms catch up podcast. It's not often that we have
Speaker 1: a bit of a listener letter trying to call us in,
Speaker 1: call us out, but I do appreciate it because it
Speaker 1: is a teachable moment. This person who dmeds us wants
Speaker 1: to know a little bit more about logical fallacies. So
Speaker 1: they've got a question for me that I've previously spoken
Speaker 1: on my old podcast about logical fallacies. But to this
Speaker 1: day she's shook by my frequent use of the phrase
Speaker 1: slippery slope aka a logical fallacy. Thoughts, comments, defense, attack,
Speaker 1: You're lucky, am in a fighting move, babe, sast thing First,
Speaker 1: a slippery slope argument is not a slippery slope fallacy.
Speaker 1: You're getting them confused. A slippery slope fallacy is when
Speaker 1: a person asserts or claims that a relatively small step
Speaker 1: will lead to a chain of events that result in
Speaker 1: a drastic change or a negative outcome, right and catastrophizing.
Speaker 1: So yes, A slippery slope argument is the argument that
Speaker 1: if I do this small thing, it could have a
Speaker 1: drastic effect in future. For example, if today I decide
Speaker 1: I'm going to do the small thing. It never text
Speaker 1: anyone back like it's a little thing to me. It
Speaker 1: could have the drastic effect that I lose all of
Speaker 1: my friends in ten years because I just never text anyone.
Speaker 1: That's a slippery slope argument. A slippery slope fallacy is
Speaker 1: me saying the reason why I won't have friends in
Speaker 1: ten years is probably because I didn't go to that
Speaker 1: one public girl's birthday and she definitely told another friend
Speaker 1: of mine that I was a bad friend, and then
Speaker 1: she told it's making these big presumptions and not connecting
Speaker 1: it in a logical or clear way. It's my brain.
Speaker 1: So when I say slippery slope in the context of
Speaker 1: it's a slippery slope to be coming on the radio
Speaker 1: and encouraging people to to do hypergame right, to date upwards,
Speaker 1: the slippery slope is that if I encourage you to
Speaker 1: go and date upwards, date rich, we're not preparing you
Speaker 1: for the reality that when it's not achievble for the
Speaker 1: most people, but it can create a really abusive dynamic
Speaker 1: when you are relying on one person for all of
Speaker 1: your needs, you put yourself in a very precarious situation.
Speaker 1: And it's not all it's choked up to be right.
Speaker 1: It's not just like, oh, it's gonna pay for all
Speaker 1: my meals. No, this person might leave you in a
Speaker 1: position where you cannot literally fend for yourself unless you
Speaker 1: staying that in that dynamic. That is a slippery slope.
Speaker 1: It's a slippery slope to tell everyone, wait, slippery slope
Speaker 1: fallacy or slippery argument, Like, it's a slippery slope argument
Speaker 1: to tell everyone that what people think about you is
Speaker 1: not your business, okay, because we could argue that, yes,
Speaker 1: if you relieve yourself of caring about what everybody thinks,
Speaker 1: you might get to the point where you know, you
Speaker 1: lose the ability of reason with other people, and you
Speaker 1: become a bit more subjective, maybe a bit more prickly,
Speaker 1: Like there are consequences for not caring about the way
Speaker 1: that you're perceived. You might become more ignorant, you might
Speaker 1: become more unaware of the world around you. You might find
Speaker 1: it more difficult to connect with other people. That is
Speaker 1: a slippery slope argument. We can understand how you could
Speaker 1: get to that conclusion. A slippery slope fallacy is to
Speaker 1: say that a slippery slope fallacy is that if I
Speaker 1: don't take every sponsored content job that comes to me,
Speaker 1: I'll never make money again. Yeah, it's not true. Like
Speaker 1: we could say that in some ways, it's possible, but
Speaker 1: it's not true because how do I make my money.
Speaker 1: I've got other businesses. I'm an author, I'm a DJ.
Speaker 1: There are other ways to make money. So if I
Speaker 1: stop doing this one gig, I will be fine. I understand.
Speaker 1: So the slippery slope argument is not a slippery slope fallacy.
Speaker 1: The two saying slippery slope relies on you to use
Speaker 1: your context clues to figure out if it's a fallacy
Speaker 1: or an argument, And whether or not it's a fallacy
Speaker 1: or an argument depends on how you see the world. Also,
Speaker 1: every time you said slippery slop, I'll just genuinely like,
Speaker 1: picture a slippery slope. Yeah, an avalanche. But it's an
Speaker 1: important thing to recognize because when you are speaking to
Speaker 1: someone you don't really know well, also, you don't know
Speaker 1: whether or they're talking about a fallacy or an argument,
Speaker 1: especially when talking about their own situation, because we do
Speaker 1: catastrophize a lot, we do. You know. We spoke to
Speaker 1: Clementine Ford the other day and she has a new
Speaker 1: book coming out. It's called I Don't it's the case
Speaker 1: against marriage. Someone could say a slippery slope argument is
Speaker 1: that as women, if we don't get married, we might
Speaker 1: not be happy in future. Slippery slope argument or it
Speaker 1: could be a fallacy. We don't know, but how you
Speaker 1: position it for yourself is what matters the most. But
Speaker 1: this is also why we don't argue for fun exactly,
Speaker 1: because whether or it's a fallacy or an argument depends
Speaker 1: on how you perceive my message. You've been listening to
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