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Speaker 1: Are you feeling paralyzed by climate anxiety? With countless eco

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Speaker 1: overwhelming maze of sustainability options leaves most of us stuck

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Speaker 1: at square one? But what it? Making a real environmental

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Speaker 1: difference was actually simpler than you've been led to believe,

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Speaker 1: and could save you some serious money along the way.

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Speaker 1: Helping others discover how to do just that is the

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Speaker 1: mission of Lotti dl an Australian sustainability advocate, author and

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Speaker 1: founder of Banish, a platform helping Australians adopt eco friendly lifestyles.

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Speaker 1: Lotty was named the twenty twenty three New South Wales

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Speaker 1: Young Australian of the Year and featured on Forbes thirty

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Speaker 1: Under thirty list, And to top it off, she has

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Speaker 1: made all her knowledge accessible in her book three hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty five plus Ways to Save the Planet and

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Speaker 1: your money at the same time. In this episode, Lottie

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Speaker 1: reveals the easiest way to drastically cut our energy use

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Speaker 1: at work with one simple change, a surprising trick to

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Speaker 1: everyday household items that might be leaching microplastics into your

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Speaker 1: food and body. Welcome to How I Work, a show

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Speaker 1: about habits, rituals, and strategies for optimizing your day. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, doctor Amantha Imber. My first question, Lottie, is

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Speaker 1: I want to not like, what is one really small,

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Speaker 2: That's a really great question. I think for me, it

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Speaker 1: I never would have thought about that, and I'm a

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Speaker 2: So if you close down your laptop, then that is great,

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Speaker 1: It reminds me of something you write about in your book,

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Speaker 1: One of the things you suggest is creating a single

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Speaker 1: Amantha dot com. That's Amantha dot com. Now in your book,

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Speaker 2: that I call hugs and swims. So what a swim

435
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 2: is is in my fridge, I have a old or

436
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 2: non mold I have a plastic container filled with water,

437
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 2: and in that I actually put a lot of vegetables

438
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 2: and store them in water in the fridge. So things

439
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 2: like carrots, celery, lemons all go in there and they're

440
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 2: floating around having a great time. Because what happens in

441
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 2: our fridge is it's actually dehydrating a lot of our produce.

442
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 2: So that's why your carrots go bendy, That's why your

443
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 2: spinach goes limp. So by keeping them nice and hydrated,

444
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 2: we're able to keep them crunchy, keep them fresh for longer.

445
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 2: The other section is hugs. So what I recommend is,

446
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 2: in order to again stop things from dehydrating, you wet

447
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 2: a teatowel and then you wrap up things like you're

448
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 2: a leafy greens and then that is going to help

449
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 2: keep your produce fresher for longer.

450
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Speaker 1: Oh God, so you've literally got a swimming pool in

451
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: your fridge. Lighting I do.

452
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: It's so fun. Just can't open up the fridge too

453
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,479
Speaker 2: aggressively and then it's all good. But the thing is,

454
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 2: when you've got these items that last so long, people

455
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: can look at me like I've got two heads, but

456
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 2: I go, well, I've got fresher produce in you, and

457
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 2: it's fine.

458
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Now microplastics, I feel like microplastics are

459
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 1: getting more and more attention. Can you just put for

460
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Speaker 1: those that I guess have been living under a microplastic rock, like,

461
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 1: what are microplastics? Why should we care?

462
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: Yes? So, microplastics are defined as a piece of plastics

463
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: smaller than five millimeters in size, So some of them,

464
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 2: they could be a tiny little shred that you can

465
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 2: actually see. Some of them are so small that not

466
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 2: even we can see them with our eye. And there's

467
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: been a lot of news articles, headlines things like that lately,

468
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 2: because microplastics have been found in human brains, in fetuses,

469
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 2: in testes, in everything, so pretty much research has shown

470
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 2: that it's microplastics are in the air we breathe, the

471
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 2: water we drink, the food we eat. The thing is

472
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: that we're not entirely sure what the impact that they're

473
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 2: having on us is. We can kind of put two

474
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 2: and two together and say that they're not going to

475
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 2: be as nutritious as chomping on some kale. But there

476
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 2: are microplastics that are just becoming a part of our

477
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: lives and quite literally our diets. So there's a lot

478
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Speaker 2: of talk and chatter at the moment about how we

479
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 2: reduce these microplastics. And there's definitely a lot of things

480
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: that you can do. Like when you, I don't know,

481
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 2: have a coffee in a single use coffee cup that's

482
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 2: lined with plastic, you're drinking plastics. When you drink from

483
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 2: a single use plastic water bottle, you're also drinking plastic.

484
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: When you have a cup of tea with a tea

485
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 2: bag in it, most tea bag brands contain plastics, so

486
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 2: you're consuming plastics.

487
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: That blew my mind? Can I say when I read

488
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 1: that about tea bags.

489
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 2: So these are all ways that we can control our

490
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: microplastic consumption and reduce our microplastic consumption. But the issue

491
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 2: is we can't control everything. So when you're walking around

492
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 2: your office, when you're walking outside, when you are just

493
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: doing life, you're consuming microplastics. And I think that's probably

494
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: the scariest thing for people, is it's going even if

495
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 2: I try and do everything and anything I can they're

496
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: still coming, I'm still consuming them. What does this do

497
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: for me? And I think that's why there is this

498
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: really scary time that we're in at the moment, because

499
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: it's kind of going we're just chomping away at them unknowingly.

500
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 2: So what's going to happen to us in the future.

501
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: What are some of the most surprising sources of microplastics?

502
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 1: Because like for me, tea bags it was a complete surprise.

503
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: But what else surprises people most from your experience?

504
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the tea bags is a huge one that

505
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 2: kind of people's jaw hits the floor. Another one is

506
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 2: plastic chopping boards. So when you're cutting your vegetables, dicing

507
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: your chicken, doing whatever you're doing, you're slicing into that

508
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: plastic chopping board. And not only are you eating the

509
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: chicken or the carrots, you're eating microplastics too. The other

510
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 2: one is chewing gum. That's another one. What other item

511
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 2: can you chew on for five to six hours it

512
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 2: doesn't disintegrate, it's plastics. And the next one would be

513
00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 2: paper towel, So often a lot of brands have a

514
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 2: lot of paper towel. Brands have a plastic weave in them.

515
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 2: So even if you're wiping down your benches, if you're

516
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: doing whatever, you're leaving a microplastic residue behind that you're

517
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: inadvertedly going to be consuming. And I think the last

518
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: one would be in our clothing. So if you have

519
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: any man made fibers, things like polyesters, las stanes, they

520
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: are plastic, so as you wear them, as you wash them,

521
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 2: tiny little fragments are breaking off and are entering our

522
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 2: oceans or entering the air we breathe. So just by

523
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 2: wearing a garment that is made from polyester, you're breeding

524
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: that into.

525
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,479
Speaker 1: Can I ask about cleaning cloths? So the paper towels

526
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: thing I found very surprising, and microfiber cloths have microplastics

527
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: in them as well. That is pretty much what we

528
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: use to clean things in my household. Like what should

529
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: we be buying instead?

530
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a really good question. So for me,

531
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Speaker 2: I love using Swedish dishcloths. They're made from a plant

532
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 2: based cell you and they will wipe down my benches,

533
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: they will do everything that a paper towel does, and

534
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 2: then I just wash them with my tea towels as well.

535
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 2: When I did move away from using paper towels and

536
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: using things like wetexes and chuses that also have plastics.

537
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: I noticed that my teatowel consumption went up, but my

538
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: teatowels are made from linen or cotton, so that's fine,

539
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: and I'm just washing them and reusing them more. And

540
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: then when it comes to cleaning my dishes, I have

541
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: a it's almost looks like chain mesh. It's a stainless

542
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 2: steel scrubber. So that's to clean all of my kind

543
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: of cast iron pots, and then to clean everything else,

544
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: I use this funky spaghetti scrubber that's actually made from

545
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: peach pits. And what it does is it's got an

546
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: abrasive surface to it, and then it cleans all of

547
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: my dishes.

548
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Speaker 1: Wow, oh my gosh. Okay, if I'm going shopping after this,

549
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: I feel like another area that I found really interesting

550
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: in the book. And you talk about like cleaning products

551
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: and the chemicals that we're using to clean, and you

552
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: have a section called the Mighty for cleaners. Can you

553
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: talk about what they are and just some simple swaps

554
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: that we can do for how we clean our clothes,

555
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: how we clean our dishes, and how we clean ourselves.

556
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: So it's a great one because I feel like, as

557
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: I mentioned before, I do not love cleaning, but I

558
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: do clean, of course. And it's estimated that in Australia

559
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: we have thirty different cleaning products in our cleaning cupboard

560
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: and I don't even know what that is to clean.

561
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: There are so obviously with a lot of things to

562
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: clean in our house, but we don't need thirty different

563
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: cleaning products. Not only are a lot of cleaning products

564
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 2: like a bathroom cleaner and a kitchen cleaner often made

565
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: with the same ingredients, but there's often a lot of

566
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: chemicals that are unnecessary in this And when we clean

567
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: our shower screen or when we wash our dishes with

568
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: a dish washing liquid, we're inadvertedly going to be breathing

569
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: in that steam from the shower screen. We're going to

570
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: be eating off those dishes, so we're going to be

571
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: eating and consuming those chemicals, and for me, that's something

572
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: that I don't want to be doing. Also, the cost

573
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: of all of these items, and if you look at

574
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 2: the back of the pack of a lot of the

575
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: cleaning products, you'll actually see that the number one ingredient

576
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: is water. So we are shipping around the world and

577
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: around Australia a whole lot of water in bottles. So

578
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: for me, the Mighty four or the Powerful four is

579
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: for ingredients that I think that ninety percent of households

580
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: will already have in their cupboard, their low cost and

581
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: the best thing is their multi use because so many

582
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 2: of the different things that I talk about in the book,

583
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: it's all about coming back to not buying so much stuff.

584
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: So in the four are lemons is to any kind

585
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: of citrus, so it could be orange as lemons, limes,

586
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: it is, bicarb, soda, white vinegar, and castile soap. And

587
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: using these items, either individually or in combos, I think

588
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: can clean pretty much your whole entire house. I did

589
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: a video the other day showing three different ways to

590
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: use lemons. One of my favorite things to do when

591
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: I've kind of squeezed every last ounce of a lemon

592
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: up is I put it in the kettle and I

593
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: boil it. And what this does is it actually descales

594
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: your kettle completely literally by just boiling it and leaving

595
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: it in there. The same with if you wanted to

596
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: get all of that grease out of a oven or

597
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: a microwave, you just put a glass bowl with a

598
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: lemon in it and water and you cook in the

599
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: microwave or cook in the oven, and that actual citrus

600
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: that comes out of there then acts as a natural degreas,

601
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: So then you don't need to use any elbow grease

602
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: and you can just wipe away your microwave or your oven.

603
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: The other one with lemons is it's really great to

604
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: kind of clean and sanitize all of your wooden chopping boards.

605
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: And also you can pop it in the a squeezed

606
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: half lemon in the top rack of your dishwasher and

607
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: it acts as a natural rinse. Aid.

608
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: Oh, that is nuts. How about for clothes washing, like,

609
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: which of those four ingredients or a combination should I

610
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: be putting in the clothes washup? And I do wash

611
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,479
Speaker 1: with cold water, not hot, because I know that has

612
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: a massive impact on the planet and the power bill

613
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: as well. So what should I be putting in?

614
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: Big tick for you then for doing that. So white

615
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: vinegar is something that is going to soften your laundry load.

616
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: So if I'm washing towels or sheets or anything like that,

617
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: white vinegar is what I'm going to do. You can

618
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: also again add lemons because that's going to help get

619
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: rid of those yellow stains. But when it comes to

620
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: washing my clothes, I actually use a thing called soap

621
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: nuts or soap berries, and what they are is they

622
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: are quite literally what they sound like, a little berry

623
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: or nut. You put four in a bag into your

624
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: laundry and what happens is when they touch water, they

625
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: release a natural soapnin that cleans your clothes. So there's

626
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: no chemicals, no nasties, They're completely natural. And then you

627
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 2: just let the soaps or the berries dry in between

628
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: each use, and then you use them four times, so

629
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: four berries four times, and then you just compost them

630
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: when you're done.

631
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: Okay, how about the dishwasher, because I know you're actually

632
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: an advocate of the dishwasher over hand washing lots of

633
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: things like filling that you sink to do. So like

634
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: what do you put in the dish washer? Because right

635
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: now I use those little dish washing pods and I

636
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: now know after reading your book that is a nightmare

637
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: for the environment.

638
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: Yes, because of that little dissolvable layer around your dishwashing

639
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: at tablets is one that is actually going to be

640
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: made with plastics probably, So when it comes to actually

641
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: cleaning and using the dishwasher. You're right, less water is

642
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: used if you use the dishwasher than actually hand washing

643
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 2: each of our dishes and plates. So for me, I

644
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: use a dish washing powder that's mostly made of a

645
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: bicub soda. I use a brand called Kinkin, which is

646
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: just a natural brand that you can buy online, and

647
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: that's the dish washing powder that I use, and then

648
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: it's just happy days. But again, I'm only washing full

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Speaker 2: dishwasher is when you pre rinse every item before you

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Speaker 2: put it in, so no rinsing.

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Speaker 1: Now, I would love to know, out of everything we've

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Speaker 1: is just one change that you would recommend that people

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Speaker 2: So it's really difficult because I hate being prescriptive because

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Speaker 2: everyone's leading different lives, everyone's at different stages in their

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Speaker 2: because I believe that everybody's got that thing that's kind

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Speaker 2: of on their bucket list or they've been thinking about.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, getting a more energy efficient appliance, or

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Speaker 2: walking to work more or doing something like that. But

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Speaker 2: if I was going to tell everybody a second thing,

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Speaker 2: it would be to eat what you've got left in

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Speaker 2: your fridge. For me, I don't go to the shops

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Speaker 2: once a month, one week every month, and I just

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Speaker 2: eat whatever is in my fridge, my freezer and my pantry,

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Speaker 2: and I've never gone hungry. There is always something that

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Speaker 2: I can create there. So for me, that would probably

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Speaker 2: be the biggest one. It's going to save you a

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Speaker 2: ton of money and the planet at the same time.

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Speaker 1: Lottie, thank you so much for all these tips. I

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Speaker 1: feel like you make like having a better impact on

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Speaker 1: the planet and also just on saving money, like you

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Speaker 1: make it so easy and so practical. So thank you

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Speaker 1: for writing a brilliant book and for your time today.

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Speaker 2: No, thank you so much for having me, and I

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Speaker 2: really appreciate it because it is that thing. I'm just

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Speaker 2: trying to make living sustainably something that we can all do.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's up to a handful of individuals.

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Speaker 2: I just think that every person can be doing just

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Speaker 2: a little bit more than they currently are.

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Speaker 1: I hope you loved this chat with Lottie as much

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Speaker 1: as I did. I know that I will be making

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Speaker 1: sure not to leave my computer on standby mode at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day anymore. If you want to

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Speaker 1: learn more about Lotty, I highly recommend her book three

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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five plus Ways to Save the Planet

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Speaker 1: and your money at the same time, and also check

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Speaker 1: her out on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: The links to both are in the show notes.

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Speaker 1: If you like today's show, make sure you git follow

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