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Speaker 1: Ever wondered what it's like to do someone else's geek,

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Speaker 1: it's time to find out.

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Speaker 2: This is Clezy and Lisa's inside job.

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Speaker 3: Well, with the incredible rise of popularity of women's cricket

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Speaker 3: and everything being thrown into it these days, we thought

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Speaker 3: we'd get behind the scenes and go inside somebody's job,

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Speaker 3: especially when it comes to the equipment, because it's got

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Speaker 3: to be right and making women's bats like nobody else.

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Speaker 3: The batmaker from her company De Lacy Cricket, Claire Johnson.

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Speaker 3: Welcome Claire, Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Cling credit Lisa, this is not something I'd ever consider,

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Speaker 4: to be honest with you, that the girl's cricket could

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Speaker 4: probably stand to have a different bat to the men's cricket.

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Speaker 2: How did you get into bat making?

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Speaker 4: Ah?

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Speaker 1: That was through an article that my mum gave me

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Speaker 1: to give to a strange and it was called a

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Speaker 1: Weekly Times, which is a rule sort of a newspaper. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and there was an article in the paper with and

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Speaker 1: Callen putting a call out to see if people wanted

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Speaker 1: to learn to make cricket bats, and he was running

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Speaker 1: a course and wanted to do this credited cricket bat making,

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Speaker 1: and my friend wasn't interested, but I kind of looked

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Speaker 1: at it and meant I used to play cricket and

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Speaker 1: an awesome idea to do an old craft, Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: try and make crickets.

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Speaker 2: Many old crafts still around, are there, So that's that's

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Speaker 2: very cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you mentioned Ian Callen, the former Australian fastball

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Speaker 3: a right, there's a cricket trade indeed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cricket absolutely. But I used to own the

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Speaker 1: sports store when I was a kid, and I used

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Speaker 1: used to bother him and he actually taught me. He

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Speaker 1: taught me. I got a friend of his who was

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Speaker 1: an English player to teach me how to winke and keep.

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Speaker 1: So I knew him from a while ago. So I

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Speaker 1: knew a good blake mad bowler, but.

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Speaker 3: He was pretty quick.

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Speaker 2: How does one become accredited in bat making? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Were you familiar with the lathe beforehand?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: No, you know, not at all. So I've always done

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Speaker 1: things by hand. I used to help my dad do

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Speaker 1: a bit of carpentry around the place, and I'd like art,

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Speaker 1: so you know, he's like using my hands anyway. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I sort of set up this course so he got

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Speaker 1: choose the right cleft for their bats, and then to

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Speaker 1: actually learn how to shape them. So he grows the willows,

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Speaker 1: growing the willow in Hillsville and Victoria, so it's actually

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Speaker 1: Australian growing cricket and so you know, we're making an

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Speaker 1: Australian grown cricket bat, which is even more awesome.

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Speaker 3: So one thing I learned from seeing you during the

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Speaker 3: Australian Women's Test when we had a great win here

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Speaker 3: in Perth was I didn't really realize how different the

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Speaker 3: handle and a bit lighter.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's.

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Speaker 2: Part of it.

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Speaker 1: I mean I know some women who like a bigger

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Speaker 1: handle and a bigger bat going for the tonku. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is, it's really, I mean it's really I'm doing bespoke,

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Speaker 1: of women preferred that smaller oval shaped handle I know

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Speaker 4: It's interesting you say bespoke because I would imagine that

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Speaker 4: this is definitely not a one size fits all type

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Speaker 4: some people have delicate hands, and that's that's not necessarily

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Speaker 1: No, absolutely not. So I think you know, like I,

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Speaker 1: You know, we're doing so well in the cricket and

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Speaker 1: the women's cricket. It's just fantastic to watch, Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you know, to encourage young girls to go out there

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Speaker 1: it just gives you an option if you've got ten

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Speaker 2: You mentioned willow Hillsville willow.

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Speaker 4: Is that is that the preferred a timber of the

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Speaker 1: The English cricket bat willow. Yes, yeah, it actually came

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm thinking just as an aside, we've got you

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Speaker 3: stacks for blokes and maybe one or two for women cricketers.

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Speaker 3: It is changing because recently we're working East Perth here

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Speaker 3: I went to the cafe over the road. There's a

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Speaker 3: in their fifty sixty seventies walking down to the whacker

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Speaker 3: for a day of Test cricket. Watching the Australian women

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Speaker 3: play that's got a as a cricket tragedy. That's warming

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Speaker 3: my heart. How about yourself, because that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: It's really cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I've got cousins

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Speaker 1: So but yeah, to see men women's cricket is just

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Speaker 1: fantastic and like you know, we're seeing it in the

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Speaker 1: soccer under following matieldas you know, we're just enjoying good sport.

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Speaker 1: You know, these are the best players in the world

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Speaker 1: and it's you know, we should be taking it all in.

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Speaker 1: So all blokes keep on going down.

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Speaker 4: Claire, Can you name drop any of the of the

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Speaker 4: players using your back? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Who you got?

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Speaker 1: H No, I tend to do. Most of mine are local.

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Speaker 1: the up and coming plays in Pakistan. Yeah gets out,

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Speaker 1: It's really interesting how far these podcasts. Yeah, so no

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Speaker 1: one at the moment. Look, I'm happy to do them

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Speaker 1: for them, but you know, small business and do other

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Speaker 3: I was really hoping that recent six that at least

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Speaker 3: Perry hit in the Women's Premier League that smashed the

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Speaker 3: sponsor's car back window six from one of your but

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Speaker 3: you never know in the future.

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Speaker 1: Look, yeah, that would be fantastic. I'd love to be

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Speaker 1: able to do that. And yeah, look I'll peep working

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Speaker 1: towards that goal. But yeah, at the moment, it's on

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Speaker 1: my shed in there out on the farm, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just do it. It's fantastic. And I've met some

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Speaker 1: really amazing people and you know, I had some amazing

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Speaker 1: stories and talk to some great people like yourself. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's great to be cricket tragic with everybody.

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Speaker 4: Else, well, Claire, the one question that we do ask everyone,

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Speaker 4: what is the one question that people always ask you

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Speaker 4: about your job?

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Speaker 3: Now? What's to go to?

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Speaker 1: What is to go to?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: It really is like like, am I people who starts me?

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Speaker 1: Am I the only woman in the world who makes

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Right, But it's not quite true. There is another There

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Speaker 1: is another lady up in Sydney that does make She's

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Speaker 1: been making cricket bats apparently for about twenty years, which

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Speaker 1: I had been here until it till later. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it took me a long while to find that out.

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Speaker 1: But there's not many females inyway in the world that

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Speaker 1: make cricket bats, so I'm surprised. But yeah, apparently it's

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Speaker 2: It's fun to be niche.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I would imagine with the way the sport's going,

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Speaker 1: Five, you know, continue to Yeah, I know. I did

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Speaker 1: shown up a couple of other women. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: if they're still going over there, so they needed to

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Speaker 1: find out if they're still still around. But there are

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Speaker 1: do in the future. But yeah, at the moment, I'm

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Speaker 1: I hope, definitely hope that there's more women out there

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Speaker 1: and that you get better profile for this sort of stuff.

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Speaker 4: It's great, amazing. Well, Claire's company is the Lacey Cricket.

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Speaker 4: She'll make you a bat. Thank you, Claire, Claire.

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Speaker 1: Well, thanks Lisa.

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Speaker 3: And looking forward to catch up with batgirl. So that's

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Speaker 3: all the best.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so good