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Speaker 1: Jomb mission with Jones and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: I thought I'd had my fill of the whole Lindy

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Speaker 2: Chamberlain thing because we lived through it as kids at

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Speaker 2: school and everyone talked about it. It was such a

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Speaker 2: big thing in this country. This one has been narrated

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Speaker 2: by Sam Neil and it probably gave us as I

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Speaker 2: was watching it, it did give us the saying trial

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Speaker 2: by media, because when you look at this documentary, she

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Speaker 2: was pretty much trial by the media, and in the

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Speaker 2: eighties there was It was ruled by toxic masculinity back then.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember in the eighties, if you're read, you

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Speaker 2: were some sort of puff if you didn't smoke, you

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Speaker 2: or some sort of puff. That's what it was back

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Speaker 2: in the eighties.

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Speaker 3: In Australia, And we didn't question our authorities. No, these

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Speaker 3: days with social media we question everything. We questioned science.

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Speaker 3: We think our opinion matters, but then no one questioned it,

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Speaker 3: like we're looking now at what a travesty that trial was?

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Speaker 2: That extraordinary well, and also there were no female journalists

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Speaker 2: back then. It was all men and they didn't listen

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Speaker 2: to women or minorities or anything like that. The indigenous

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Speaker 2: people around Uleru at the time said that indeed, a

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Speaker 2: dingo could take a baby and probably did do it,

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Speaker 2: but they weren't listening to Northern Territory police had a

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Speaker 2: bee in their bonnet and they were made to look

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Speaker 2: foolish in the coroner's inquest about their handling of the

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Speaker 2: evidence and the jumpsuit and the matine jacket, which didn't

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Speaker 2: turn up for some time.

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Speaker 3: But when we spoke to Ray Martin about this, was

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Speaker 3: it on Friday, and he said that we chose to

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Speaker 3: judge her because she seemed unemotional. Yes, there was an

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Speaker 3: unusual religion involved. We just thought she was other.

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Speaker 2: Well, the crazy rumors were going around that she was

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Speaker 2: sacrificed to appease a satan. This is what happened to Azaria.

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Speaker 2: She was sold to white slave traders, and no one

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Speaker 2: said anything. Back in those days, no one said anything

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Speaker 2: about anything like someone would know what happened to us

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Speaker 2: AERA's body if indeed it just didn't get eaten by

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Speaker 2: a dingo, which is more likely than anything. But back

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Speaker 2: to that emotion, there was a bit every time you

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Speaker 2: saw her on the news, you never saw her being

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Speaker 2: emotional about his area, and that really stuck in the

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Speaker 2: crawl of most Australians at the time. But then this

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Speaker 2: guy explained why you didn't see any emotion from Lindy.

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Speaker 1: At the Royal Commission, we were able to get hold

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Speaker 1: of the full tape recording, including all of the all

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Speaker 1: of the takes, and we were able to see the

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Speaker 1: process unfold. It began with the journalist saying, missus Chamberlain,

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Speaker 1: what happened to your baby? She began to answer and

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Speaker 1: choked up in the stress and burst into tears. He said,

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Speaker 1: take one and take to start again. This is Chamberlain,

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Speaker 1: what happened to your baby. She got a little bit

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Speaker 1: further and checked up again, and they said, look, Lindy,

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Speaker 1: if you're going to have if you're going to get

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Speaker 1: your message out there, you really are going to have

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Speaker 1: to control yourself. Now try again, get your emotions under

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Speaker 1: control and try answer our questions. And so they persevered.

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Speaker 1: What actually went to was take seven.

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Speaker 2: Take seven, and you never saw you only saw the

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Speaker 2: sanitized version.

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Speaker 3: That's how she was judged because we thought she was unemotional.

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Speaker 3: Imagine being imagine your daughter being killed like that and

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Speaker 3: then being accused of it, going to prison. It just

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Speaker 3: was amazing, extraordinary, extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: Now We question everything the world.

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Speaker 3: Is it flat, isn't it, isn't it

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Speaker 1: With James and Amanda