1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: The Unplayable Podcast is proudly presented by quantas the official 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: podcast partner and the official airline partner of Cricket Australia. 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: Once again this season, Quantus is proud to be flying 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: Australia's cricketers as they take on the world. Good evening, 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Unplayable Podcast. A great day for Australia 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: here at the Adelaide Oval in the third NRMA Insurance 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: Test Match. They lead England by one hundred and fifty 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: eight runs. The English only have two wickets in hand. 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: We saw a great bowling display from the Australians today 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: and they rightfully have the stronger position in this game. 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: It might be the best bowling performance I've scene from 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: this Australian attack and at this current iteration of it. 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: We know there's been a few different members of them 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: over the journey, but in what were just horrific bowling conditions, 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: it must be said. I mean, I think it was 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: forty one forty two on the Mercury that we could 17 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: kind of see. But then the mini mandrid noticed before 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: said that their reading was forty seven. So that kind 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: of cauldron like atmosphere that has stayed and creates made 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 2: it even hotter out there, and they barely bowled a 21 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: bad ball all day. 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 3: It was relentless. 23 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 2: It was on probably the flattest pitch of the series, 24 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: a slow wicket. An England side that has been demanded 25 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: to fight by their captain and fight like a dog. Well, 26 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: we didn't see a whole lot of it apart from 27 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: the skipper himself, and but you know, you can understand 28 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: it when a bowling attack is that good. 29 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 4: Definitely. 30 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. Pat Cummins and Nathan Lyon both came in and 31 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: they both made early in roads into this England eleven. 32 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: That was after Mitch Stark got to his second fifty 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: in a row and got Australia's total up to three 34 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy one. Probably not a heap to talk 35 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: about there, other than Josh Racher getting a five wid Hall, 36 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: which I thought was pretty well deserved in the end. 37 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 38 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, subsequently we saw a bit of footage 39 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: of Archer and Stokes kind of having a bit of 40 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: a barmie with each other, which I kind of I 41 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: saw a little bit at the time, but I didn't 42 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: think it was that bad. But then the television replays 43 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: later on in the day, conveniently played when England had 44 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: kind of collapsed, made it look a lot worse. 45 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: I don't know if that was really the case. 46 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: I mean, these things do happen, you know, you have 47 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: disagreements on the field and you settle it pretty quickly. 48 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 3: I wouldn't read heaps into it, but you know, there 49 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: was that. 50 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: But then there's also the fact that I think we 51 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 2: kind of felt like Australia were unders you know last 52 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 2: night going in what was about three twenty five. They've 53 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: added nearly fifty to get the three seven one. But 54 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 2: it felt like, you know, if you didn't have a 55 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: four in front of that first inning total, you left 56 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: yourself vulnerable to you know, to a team who can 57 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: score really quickly. 58 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: It wasn't the case, no, I mean I was having 59 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: a look at the previous day matches here in Adelaide 60 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: and the first inning scores. Well, this is only the 61 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: third day match here in the last decade, but West 62 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: Indies scored one hundred and eighty eight in twenty three 63 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: twenty four, and then India when they won in twenty 64 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen, scored only two fifty. So it's not as 65 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: if there'd been really big totals on the opening day 66 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: here for the red ball cricket. But maybe we were 67 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: all saying mae, Australia under But maybe and Ben Stokes's 68 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: reaction showed it. Maybe they thought they were right on path. 69 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I still think Australia under a chief with 70 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: the bat And you know we've said it a few 71 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: times on this podcast, like this Australian group, the batting 72 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: team just doesn't up and then their bowling attack goes 73 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 2: to work. Gee, they were incredible today. And you think, 74 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: you know, half of the front line bowlers in line 75 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: and pack commons, you know, bow two overs between them 76 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 2: in the series. Coming into this game, pac come Ands 77 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: hadn't played a Test in five months. 78 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 3: They were just remarkable. They were so good Bowland. 79 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: We'll probably get none of the plauded today, but I 80 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: thought he was, you know, just every bit as good 81 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: as you as he was in Brisbane. Nathan Lyon comes 82 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: in and takes two wickets in his first over and 83 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: pat like that. You know, we talk so much about 84 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: that extra bounce that he gets out of nowhere that 85 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: just kind of leaps on batters and gets outside edges. 86 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 3: Well, that was on display, very very early as well. 87 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of criticism so far this serious 88 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: for England's batting and the shots that they've been getting 89 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: out on. Well, there weren't too many of those today 90 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: because they were out to a lot of great deliveries. 91 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 4: Zach Crawley, Ben Duckett. 92 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: Maybe the only Pope one was a bit of a 93 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: loss of concentration, but Joe Root and Harry Brook all 94 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: fell to really good deliveries close to unplayable really. Maybe 95 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: Ben Duckett played a little bit Outsideay's line, but I 96 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: mean the ones from Cummens who had Alex Carey in 97 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: the game again with another five catches. Not much you 98 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: can really do about those. 99 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it is an interesting one. Yeah, Like you 100 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: did feel that England played a little bit differently. I mean, 101 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 2: Harry Brook scored it a good clip, Ben Duckett scored it. 102 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: A good clip. 103 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, they all You're right, I reckon They did all 104 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: get undone by very good deliveries. I mean that Crawley 105 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: won geez, like he did well to edge that and 106 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: that wasn't much more he could done. Look duck at 107 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: angled blade against a ride I'm off spinner from around 108 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: the wicked could he have kind of covered that, like 109 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: you'd rather probably rather nick that or go out everyw 110 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: then get bowld by it and beaten on you outside 111 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: edge and then to get hit off stump. You know 112 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: Joe Root pushing at one, was he thinking about the 113 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: bouncer that had admittedly hit for four two balls earlier? 114 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: But you know there was just a tentative step forward. 115 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: I reckon he would have been disappointed in his footwork. 116 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: There is going to be accusations of mixed messages from 117 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: Miss England camp, like this whole bas ball movement has 118 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: been based on aggression. The assistant coach, Marcus Strascothic, the 119 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: batting coach, said that basically their whole ethos is about 120 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: taking the putting pressure back on the bowlers. I think 121 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: is his word as a starting point. And then if 122 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: you need to absorb pressure, that's you know, the giving 123 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: of pressure, the putting on of pressure is the default 124 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: option and then anything else is a divergence from that. 125 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: Will you know the way Stokes has been talking about 126 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 2: and showing fight, well like I think that's more about 127 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: absorbing pressure like that. To me, you know, showing fight 128 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: isn't getting caught long off potentially you know, trying to 129 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: hit a guy out of the attack, and in the 130 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 2: past they've kind of said, well that's fine if guys 131 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: get out doing that, well, you know, what's the difference 132 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: between that and playing a forward defense and getting out? 133 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, potentially could they have Was this 134 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: a day for baseball? 135 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 3: Was this? Yeah? 136 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 2: Okay, Australia's bowlers are on top. Cummins is bowling a 137 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 2: dream Stark, we know how good he is. Was it 138 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 2: the data to attack them off their lengths? You know, 139 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 2: they didn't pursue that option, and Stokes was kind of 140 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: really the only one who was. 141 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 3: Able to follow the plan that it looked. 142 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: Like that'd set today and maybe that was the initial plan. 143 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: I mean, they came out pretty aggressively, as they always do. 144 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: Crawley induct and Ducket hit five fours, but then they 145 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: lost three for five and we just crippled really immediately, 146 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: so they had to sort of reevaluate. Perhaps I want 147 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: to get your take on Pat Cummins. Obviously his return 148 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: both five spells today, three of them are only two 149 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: overs each. Obviously he's trying to ease himself back into 150 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: the game, but he still managed to have an impact. 151 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: Even with these really short spells. 152 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: It's amazing to think that he has not bowled a 153 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 2: ball in proper in a cricket game since July. You know, 154 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: an interesting process that he's gone through to get here. 155 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: So he had the back skin and during that Jamaica 156 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 2: Test in July didn't look great. Came back to Australia 157 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: four weeks later, scan looked even worse. Four months I 158 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: think it was sixteen weeks off bowling completely. And you know, 159 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: if they were if this was a normal kind of 160 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: if there was anything other than. 161 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 3: Ashes, he's probably resting the whole summer trying to get 162 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 3: it right. 163 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: But they fast track his recovery. He manages to basically 164 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: look fully fit for that Perth Test, but they just 165 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: keep him on eyes for those next two. They go 166 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: pretty close to blaying him in Brisbane under an over's restriction. 167 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: But you know, they having won the first Test and 168 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: then obviously winning the second Test, they were just in 169 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: the perfect position to unleash him today and he hadn't 170 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: missed a beat like you could. There has been signs 171 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: of rust before when he's come off a long layoff. 172 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: I think of the Perth Test last summer against India. 173 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: He was by a lot of full balls in that game. 174 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: Australia lost the game. The World Test Championship Final in 175 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, he bowed ten no balls. Both of 176 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: those games were coming off not a lot of first 177 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: class cricket, if any first class cricket leading into those matches, 178 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: so you know, we were all kind of watching him 179 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: forty degree heat as hard as it's going to get. 180 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: He was spectacular today. I thought, did we touched on 181 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: the Crawley dismissal? The Joe rupeball was also, you know, 182 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: just a peach that nipped. 183 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: Away just a little bit. 184 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: And then amid some DRS kind of drama late in 185 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: the day, he gets Jamie Smith. I mean, I feel 186 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: like I'm already sick of talking about the DRS, but 187 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: not I feel like we probably do have to touch 188 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: on it. 189 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: We better wait into it just a little bit. Pat Cawins, 190 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: I just touched on his figures there three for fifty 191 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: four from fourteen overs today and the twelfth time has 192 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: dismissed Joe routes across all Test crickets. So we know 193 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: that they've both played a lot of Tests and against 194 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: each other, but he certainly got the wood over the 195 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: Star of England. But that DRS stuff. Okay, we had 196 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: the controversy yesterday with Alex Carey. I mean he basically 197 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: admitted that he hit that ball and then the frames 198 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: didn't line up. Today they said that they had recalibrated it. 199 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: England got their review back that they lost yesterday. 200 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 3: Did they did the operators actually say that they'd recalibrated? 201 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 3: Is that? What is that kind of what you'd heard? 202 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: Because I saw the they admitted it was faulty yesterday. 203 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 2: I wasn't sure if they said that. 204 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: They'd been that wasn't part of the statement. But I mean, 205 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: if you're going to say that it was wrong, then. 206 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 3: You you probably wouldn't. You wouldn't admit it was wrong 207 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 3: at all if you knew that you couldn't fix it. 208 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 4: I suppose, yeah. 209 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: So and the other bit, Sorry, just to add there 210 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 2: was that Brendan McCullum had a meeting with match referee 211 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 2: last night, you know, like not complaining essentially, and the 212 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: review got reinstated. 213 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: That they'd lost on. 214 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: The on the Alex Carey one on seventy two that 215 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 2: cost him about thirty four runs, maybe more if you 216 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: include run scored at the other end, so that that 217 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 2: was significant in a sense as well, that there was 218 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: an a mission of fault there. 219 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the England team had sort of already been 220 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: aggrieved that there were a couple maybe earlier in the 221 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: series that didn't they thought didn't quite line up. And 222 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: so then today when Jamie Smith was hit on the 223 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: helmet by Pat Cummins, well the third I said he 224 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: was hit on the helmet, but replays sort of were 225 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 1: a bit inconclusive about what it actually hit, whether it 226 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: was glove or helmet, ball balloon to Kwaja, probably didn't 227 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: carry to him. So there was all this sort of 228 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: controversy going on, and then the following over. 229 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 3: Just before we go to the next one. 230 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 2: What was your opinion on that because I was I 231 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: didn't watch with any of the commentary. I was kind 232 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 2: of watching the images on silent. 233 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it looked like to me a glove because 234 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: when the umpire then asked Smith to get a concussion test, 235 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: because Ben Stokes looked completely confused and yeah, as if 236 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: to say, why would he need a concussion test because it. 237 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: Was Smith's shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up. 238 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 4: So yeah, there was all that sort of stuff. 239 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: But that was and that was confusing again because the 240 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: pictures maybe look like they didn't marry up with the 241 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: the audio. 242 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: There was just a murmur at best, and not no 243 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: sort of spike that you might expect if it brushes 244 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: a glove or something like that. 245 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: So and then maybe Kawhda didn't take the care anyway. 246 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: Well that's the most likely situation, right, yeah, because I 247 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: think the third umpire was heard saying, oh, it's bounced 248 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: before he'd even got to that point. So that was 249 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: the first time Cummins and came back to the following 250 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: over bowler, another sort of short of a length ball. 251 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: Smith has tried to pull it, he's missed it, supposedly, 252 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: and then Kerry's taken the catch. A very half hearted 253 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: appeal from Cummins, but umpire men and. 254 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 4: Gives it out. 255 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: They go upstairs and Jamie Smith is ready to review. 256 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: He's making the signal, but he can't review if it's 257 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: an umpire review for court, just checking if it was 258 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: a legitimate catch. So again there's more controversy about the 259 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: order of operation of these DAR reviews. 260 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: It looked like both sides were ready to review the 261 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: decision if it went again regardless, and I felt we 262 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: had to chat about this and we should make this 263 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: clear that I really feel like the umpires, no one 264 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: should be criticizing the umpires in this, least of all 265 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 2: the on field umpires because Nitton Mennon, the guy who 266 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: was at the end for Pat Cummins on both of 267 00:11:58,800 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: these decisions. 268 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 3: He can't make a soft signal. 269 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: Right, that's like that's been a radit that was e 270 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 2: radicated two years ago, and that kind of gave I mean, 271 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: I felt like that was an important part. I know 272 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: why they scrapped it, but for the viewers and maybe 273 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 2: even for the people on the players on the ground, 274 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: it was kind of a It showed what the decision was, like, 275 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: what the ump I thought, whether. 276 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 3: It's out or not. 277 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 2: We're discussion earlier in the day and you pointed out 278 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: that he basically gave both of those out even but 279 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: like you know, the Aussie team are kind of going, 280 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: hang on like that's out, that's out, that's out, and 281 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: presumably men it is saying to them, yeah, I've given 282 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 2: it out. I'm just not giving the soft signal. They 283 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: want to influence Chris Gaffney, who's doing television replay. 284 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Men doesn't call to check the catch if 285 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: he's not giving it out in the first place, if 286 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: he's giving it night out, then the Australians have a 287 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: decision to make whether they want to review it. 288 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. And that's the other really confusing video. 289 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: I mean, if you're not a cricket fan, you know 290 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 2: you're surely not listening to this podcast at this point anymore. Yeah, 291 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: But like if you are a cricket fan, this these 292 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: kind of the minutia matters, right. Neither team reviewed these 293 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: decisions because Men in both instances was checking whether it 294 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 2: was a clean catch and was effectively saying, yes, I 295 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: think the batter has hit it. In the first instance, Gaffney, 296 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 2: the television umpire, then said no, he hasn't hit I 297 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 2: don't think he's hit it. And then the second instance 298 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 2: he goes, well, I do think he has hit it, 299 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 2: and that was didn't pass near the helmet. That probably 300 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: I think that was probably the right decision. Like there 301 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: was a spike around the time the ball passed a bat. 302 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: It didn't marry up perfectly, I've got to say, but 303 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 2: it kind of looked like it kind of brushed the 304 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: toe of the bat on the way through. 305 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 3: I don't know what else that could have been. 306 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 2: Often you watch the batter for their reaction to see 307 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 2: whether that gives it is a tell as. 308 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 3: To what has happened. 309 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: But I think Smith was just going to review anything 310 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: because they've obviously had a chat and just gone well, like, 311 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: it's an absolute lottery with the RTS at the moment. 312 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 2: It's not marrying up and though they've tried to it 313 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 2: sounds like they tried to recalibrate it, but I don't 314 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: think they've successfully done so if it's not marrying up perfectly, 315 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: then that's. 316 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 4: A good point. And Smith had that. 317 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: Scenario in Perth where he was given out and he 318 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: started to walk before he reviewed, and then he was 319 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: upset that he was given out even though he was walking. 320 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: So he's surely been given acting lessons between tests one 321 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: and test three. But look, you can understand I'm a 322 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: Mitchell Stark had some strong words to say into the 323 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: stunt microphone. 324 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: He basically said, snickers, what was the exact quote? 325 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 4: It needs to be sacked. 326 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: Needs to be sacked, yep. I mean, isn't a human 327 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: being like it's it's a piece of technology. It does sound. 328 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: I haven't gone deep into the weeds with this stuff, 329 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: but it does sound like there is a more expensive 330 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: version of this technology that is available to broadcasters that 331 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 2: hasn't been taken up, and I believe it hasn't been 332 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 2: taken up for tests in Australia before. Weirdly enough, the 333 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: onus actually falls on the broadcasters, and I believe Trent 334 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: Copeland on Channel seven was kind of talking about this 335 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: and making a fair point, although there is an element 336 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: of self interest in this that you know, the bosses 337 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 2: at Channel seven or Fox would be saying, well, let's 338 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: put it on the ICC to actually pay for this technology, 339 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: and they look, they probably have a point like if 340 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 2: you know, if they're going to have this stuff, let's 341 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: be fair to income about and let's get the best 342 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: technology available because what we're using currently isn't working. 343 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you want it to be fair and even 344 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: and uniform across the board, ideally in all test matches, 345 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: don't you. 346 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 4: So that would be the way to do that. 347 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. 348 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: And look, the other thing is like Jamie Smith walks 349 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: off the ground like he's the most unlucky bloke in 350 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: the world. Like, mate, they just set the most obvious 351 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: shortball trap to you. You had like literally three blokes, 352 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 2: one guy just in front of square on the leg side, 353 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: one guy behind, and then another guy at deep midwick 354 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: and he's still trying to take him on and hit six. Like, yes, 355 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: you hit a couple of sixers, but you're gonna you're 356 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: just going to get out if you keep trying that 357 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 2: on a slow pitch. And like, you know, even if 358 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: the other one wasn't out, even if there was some 359 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: doubt over this one, he was playing with fire. 360 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: He's averaging fifteen for the series. Don't reckon. He can 361 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 3: really say it's down to technology. 362 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: Lou I want to get to the liquor. Land cheers 363 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: to that moment. And we've got a good one today 364 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: because Harry Brooke was racing along at forty five of 365 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: sixty three today hit a beautiful six over the off 366 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: side of Scott Bowland, reminiscent of that one we saw 367 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: in Perth. And then Cameron Green was throwing the ball 368 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: just as Harry Brook and Ben Stokes had sort of 369 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: put together a fifty run stand. They were forging a comeback, 370 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: and Cameron Green, with his third ball, manages to bowl 371 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: an absolute crackeut. Let's be fair, it was right on 372 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: the money. He'd started with a couple of short length deliveries. 373 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: He had two men back for the poor hookshot, just 374 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: in case it was extra short, and maybe that played 375 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: on Brooks by just a little bit. Brook was sort 376 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: of caught on the crease, a bit caught behind, and 377 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: the Cameron Green with a. 378 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 4: Real show of emotion. 379 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: We don't see a lot of emotion from the big vuler, 380 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: but there was a big jump and a big fist 381 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: pump and a big celebration from him. 382 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it would have been a bit in that, I reckon. 383 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: And you think back to his last two batting innings, 384 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: like in Brisbane he got out in that ugly way 385 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 2: trying to back away and hit casts through the off side, 386 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: and then on day one of this Test he's gotten 387 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: out second ball, offering a pretty limp catch in the 388 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 2: first over after lunch, so you know he's probably really 389 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 2: feeling a little bit. His place in the team was questioned, 390 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 2: I saw from some of the reports yesterday, so you 391 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 2: know there's a bit of emotion there. But you know, 392 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 2: the beauty with a play like him is if you 393 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: failed with the bat, you've got a massive chance with 394 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 2: the ball. 395 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 3: He got the ball pretty late. 396 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 2: I thought I thought there might be some kind of 397 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 2: injury concern over him, because I reckon it was probably 398 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: about the third thirty seven thirty there you go, thirty 399 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: seventh over before he got to go. And on a 400 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,479 Speaker 2: hot day, you would have thought Pat would have been 401 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: going to everyone and cycling through them pretty early. But 402 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 2: so he's got slightly soft the ball, and yeah, it 403 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 2: was just an absolute cracker. Like Brooke just looked at 404 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 2: it and just going hang on, like I've gotten through. 405 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: I got through bowl, and I got through Cummins negotiated line. 406 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: He hit a cracking shot off bowland and over or 407 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 2: two before that, over cover for six. You know, he's 408 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 2: just started to hit his straps and then oh yeah, 409 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 2: we'll just throw the ball to the six foot seven 410 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: or rounder guy who hasn't bowled yet. Oh yeah, he 411 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: bowl one hundred and forty five clicks as well, and 412 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 2: see you later. I think that's why I keep saying 413 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 2: today was one of the best bowling efforts I've seen. 414 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Brooks' reaction certainly said a lot, didn't that 415 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: he just sort of twelve the bat on his hand 416 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: and stared at the pitch and thought what more can 417 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: I do? 418 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 4: Sort of thing. 419 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: So Scott Boland he had a great day, especially that 420 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: final spell in that third session five overs for mate 421 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: and two for one in oppressive heat, it must be said. 422 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: Nathan Lion said it was up there with the hottest 423 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: conditions he's ever played in and competitive to the sub continent, 424 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: and he's played over one hundred Test matches and played 425 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: in some really draining days, so a lot of credit 426 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: has to go to the Victorian quick there. He's had 427 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: a lot of critics coming to the series. A lot 428 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: of English journals were saying that, you know, the baseballs 429 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: take care of him as they did in twenty twenty three. 430 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: But so far this series he's got nine wickets at 431 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: an average of twenty eight and only Joff for Archer 432 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: has a better economy rate so far in the series. 433 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 4: So it's a big tick for Scott Bold. 434 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 3: He's been incredible. 435 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: It would have been a discussion, I reckon whether they 436 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 2: pick him or Nissa for this Test. We know the 437 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: mcg's coming up and you'd be a brave selection panel 438 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: to leave him out there. But it might not matter 439 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 2: if Australia can wrap things up here. Worth dwelling on 440 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 2: Nathan Line a little bit today as well, like it 441 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: goes past Glen mc grath. You know, he was only 442 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 2: level with Glen McGrath for a couple of balls before 443 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 2: he got his second wicket In that over, McGrath looked 444 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: like he lifted the chair. 445 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 3: Above his head and that was actual celebration. 446 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know now i'd ask you, Josh, like 447 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: he's only got worn in front of him in terms 448 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 2: of Australians, he's what five six four, about one hundred 449 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: and fifty or less than one hundred and fifty away 450 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: from warning seven eight? 451 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 3: Any chance we. 452 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: Can never write him off, especially because he keeps talking 453 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: about making the ashes and the to gave a Sched 454 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: trophy in twenty twenty seven, doesn't he? And you know 455 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: he's looking as fit as he ever has he He 456 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: rarely gets injured. He had that calf strain of course 457 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: at the Ashes, but I mean he's just so durable, 458 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: he's so consistent and he was able to come in 459 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: today and impact straight away as if he'd been bowling 460 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: the whole series when he'd only had two overs way 461 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: back in Perth. So you'd be a brave man to 462 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: write him off. 463 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 464 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 2: Well, and you know, like I know, it's only not 465 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: only off spin, but it's a people will say, you know, 466 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: spin doesn't take quite as much out of you, but 467 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 2: you know, like it puts a lot of strain on 468 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 2: your shoulder. And he's now thirty, he's about to turn 469 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 2: thirty nine. 470 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 3: I reckon the next few months, he's certainly thirty eight. 471 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 472 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 3: Was he Quadra's thirty ninth birthday today? 473 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 4: Out of happy birthday is one? 474 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, out of interest? 475 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 2: So you know that he's getting older and older, and 476 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 2: there's gonna be question marks over whether he's putting as 477 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 2: many ReBs on the balls as he as he used to. 478 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 2: He's been left out two of the last three tests, 479 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: so you know, like he had a point. 480 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 3: Prove, I reckon, and he proved it today. 481 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: He'll have a big say as well in this fourth 482 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: innings of this match as well. You would imagine there's 483 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: already been a bit of turn that we've seen, so 484 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: that'll continue to increase as the match progresses. 485 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 4: Should we finish with the BBL grid game, Well. 486 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 2: The only other thing I was going to say was 487 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 2: I just reckon we should give up Archer a bit 488 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 2: more love. 489 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 3: We did it yesterday. He ended up taking five for today. 490 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: I really deserve five for came despite getting that bait 491 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 2: from from Ben Stokes. But then you know, after all that, 492 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 2: like he's the one at the end of the day 493 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 2: thirty not out standing firm with his skipper. He's scored 494 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,239 Speaker 2: a lot more runs and we've scored a lot more. 495 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 2: He's scored more runs and all of his top order 496 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 2: bar Brook and Stokes obviously as well. 497 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 3: So that showed, you know, showed a lot of ticker. 498 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 3: I reckoned with ball and bat. 499 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 2: He came under question, you know in Brisbane for you know, 500 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 2: only cranking it up when when was on the line. Well, 501 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: this game is on the line for that team, and 502 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: you know he showed a bit. So yeah, I just 503 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 2: really rate Joff for how he's responded in this Test 504 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: so far. 505 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: And Stokes too. I mean he was hit on the 506 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: helmet in the second session. He was cramping a lot 507 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: during that third session. I now he's put the baseball away. 508 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, a lot of credit has to go to 509 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: him for staying out there for one hundred and fifty 510 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: balls three or four hours. He was out there in 511 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: really tough conditions. He was struggling. He had the towel 512 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: on his head. At the two drinks breaks per session 513 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: which we had, he was lying down, he was doing stretches, 514 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: he was popping pills, he was doing all sorts of things. 515 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: And he's going to be out there tomorrow. We know 516 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: what he's capable of. We've seen him dig in against 517 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: Australia before. Is there something else to come from Ben 518 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: Stokes in this series? 519 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be interesting watch tomorrow. 520 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: Now, both of them would would be good BBL grew dancers, Josh, 521 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 2: because if you had a square that was either Melbourne 522 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 2: Renegades or Hobart Hurricanes players and then another square that 523 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: was international players, Yeah, you could use those two for 524 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 2: one of them. I was on the meltonur Renegade supplementary list. 525 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: Funnily enough, when Ben Stokes played the randicame, do you 526 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 2: remember Bollington in Net? 527 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 3: I shoul should ask him. 528 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 2: I can almost guarantee he wouldn't remember that, but yeah, 529 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 2: that'd be good answers in your good game. 530 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 3: That's my attempt to segue. 531 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 4: I could thank you. That was great. 532 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: Well, my best score today came from the Hilton cart 533 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: right teammate on one line and then on the other line. 534 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: I had BBL debut after BBL ten, BBL team the 535 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: last five seasons. 536 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: What are we up to now, BBL six sixteen, so 537 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: last Yeah, it's almost post pandemic. Yeah, post at Cartwright teammate. Yeah, 538 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 2: post pandemic. When did so he's played for the Stars 539 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 2: and the Scorches. 540 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, just Stars in that timeframe. 541 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 3: Oh right, okay, just Stars. 542 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 2: So you want a unique Melbourne Stars teammate of Hilton 543 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 2: cart right, Liam bow. 544 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 3: That Yeah, that would have been pretty in the last 545 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 3: six seasons. 546 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 4: Not sure any debut. 547 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: I went for one of the COVID top up players 548 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: if you remember that little scary ye Charlie Wakem Stars 549 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: debut zero point three percent, So I'll take that one. 550 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty good. 551 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: I might have gone I wouldn't have been as rare, 552 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: But like Tom Rogers, he's kind of kicked on. I 553 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 2: reckon now he's he's more permanent that Star's side. Yeah, no, 554 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: Charlie Wakem, I don't reckon. I could beat that in 555 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: terms of the rarity, but I'm sure some of our 556 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 2: listeners are probably screaming some obscure Melbourne Stars big bash 557 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 2: names into their into their phones. 558 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 1: Get onto the Big Bash app and play the good game. 559 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: Lou A great day for Australia. Here can they continue 560 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: to push forward the advantage on Day three? You'll find 561 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: out on the unplaper podcast