1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Think we've got Nicole Walsh from the Chamber of Commerce 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: with us this morning. Good morning to you, Nicole, Good morning, Yeah, 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: very well, thank you so very much for your time, Nicole. 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: From your perspective, how did that mandate rollout go on 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: the weekend for our businesses around the territory. 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: We've done quite a bit of a check in over 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: the weekend with a number of different members and other 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: contact works that we have. We definitely have seen as 9 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: been pockets of industry that's been impacted. But as far 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: as the feedback, what we're getting so far from our 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: members is that the impact perhaps hasn't been as what 12 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 2: it was maybe expected or not feared, but you expect 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: it to be, which has been really good. 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: Yeah. We heard from Master Builders at a guest between 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: seven and ten percent remain unvaccinated, Hospitality and tea saying 16 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: more like between zero and five percent. Do we have 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: any idea from the Chamber's perspective with those percentages? Sport 18 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: number it could be. 19 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 2: We don't have a number I know in the past 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: that we've we've certainly seen with some of the web 21 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: cloculation information that we've done it's around. 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: Four percent, but not yet we've been a very broad 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 3: mix across all industries at the moment. We did our 24 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: survey last week which was interesting. 25 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: We had the results from there talking about how and 26 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: what sort of frame that businesses were expected to deal 27 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: with this. But at the moment we're just collecting information 28 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 2: because again it's such it's got such a broad rage 29 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: industries across all regions as well. 30 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Nicole, have you seen any sort of businesses 31 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: decide to close or shut shop because of the mandate? 32 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 3: Not that we're seen. 33 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: I was definitely hearing that there's been so again in 34 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: some particular senses where people have lost considerable stuff perhaps 35 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: you know, perhaps people from overseas or visiting they're not 36 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: visiting now people from overseas, but not as much. 37 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 3: We've sort of people. 38 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: Are saying, look, a lot of people that were unvaccinated 39 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: staff members have decided at the end to get that 40 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: at full on that Thursday and Friday. They're definitely pockets 41 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: that generally, not overall. 42 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: And I know we spoke to a businessman last week 43 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: who had said that there were you know, potentially hundreds 44 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: of businesses who had met and who had spoken about 45 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 1: their concerns around the vaccine mandate. I mean, are you 46 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: sort of still hearing concerns from different businesses. 47 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: There's definitely, there's definitely concerned. I mean for many the reasons. 48 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: And we did the survey last week. We're over sixty 49 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: percent supported the vaccination. The principal, the manager that joseholsla 50 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: are and principle and they understand it and they put 51 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: it that need and understand need to get on with it. 52 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: Doesn't mean they. 53 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 2: Don't have concerns, No, it doesn't either both of some 54 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: it's about them as an. 55 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: Employer and their responsibilities. 56 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: And just making sure they're covered. And then other people 57 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 2: in our surveys indicated different reasons, whether it be for 58 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: you know, personal or the lack of choices in an 59 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: issue as well. But generally people understand it's something we 60 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 2: and business that we need to get on and get 61 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: on what's doing now. 62 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: I know there was quite a bit of discussion some 63 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: angry people over the weekend upon learning that public servants 64 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: who refused to get the vaccination wouldn't be stood all, 65 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: they'd be stood down, but in some cases still continue 66 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: to receive full pay. What was the reaction from the 67 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: Chambers perspective on this one. 68 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: We did see something. 69 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: Over the week and then we've actually written to the 70 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: Chief Minister's Office just to get clarification on that one 71 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: as well. So we'll wait until that comes back and 72 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: we'll keep definitely keep our members updated on that one. Obviously, 73 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: you know, we speak and where we're on behalf of 74 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: our members. 75 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know, well, we have heard back from 76 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: the Chief Minister's Office this morning. They said that there 77 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: was that forty eight hour grace period. That's something that 78 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: is obviously part of the public service pay and conditions. 79 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: But the reality of it is I think that they're 80 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: going to have to show cause by five pm this afternoon, 81 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: is my understanding with those public servants. So I know 82 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: that you know that it was a worry over the 83 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: weekend wondering why it was one set of rules for 84 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: you know, for public servants and one set of rules 85 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: for businesses. But hopefully it does mean that there's that 86 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: further clarity. 87 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: Now, absolutely, and you know from business take with absolutely 88 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: that kind. 89 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: Of clarity has definitely been sought by the Chamber of 90 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 3: Commerce as well. 91 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 92 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: I haven't had a chance to see the front page 93 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: to the paper yet, but absolutely. 94 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not too sure. Yeah, I don't know exactly 95 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: what the what the paper's saying about it this morning, 96 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: but but yeah, we've spoken to to the Chief Minister's 97 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: office this morning and did just get that bit of clarity. Anyway, Nicole, 98 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: it does sound as though it's probably not been as 99 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: big an impact over the weekend as what some were expecting. 100 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Again it's again just different pockets people with different 101 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: different industries and not even in dependence that we're in 102 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: different industries for different regions and so forth. I think 103 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: the role that will come this week people would be 104 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: up personally thing some people that have said have pleased 105 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: to employment. But again everything thanks gone along pretty well 106 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: as well for a number of businesses is which is ill. 107 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: Well, let us know how it all goes throughout the week. 108 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: But we appreciate your time this morning, Nicole Walsh, the 109 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: Chief Operating Officer for the Chamber of Commerce, thanks so 110 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: much for having a chat with us. 111 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 2: Great, thank you, thank you.