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<v Speaker 4>Have you noticed how oil Love, Britt Sneeze are today

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<v Speaker 4>buck and lubricated.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at those c I actually was so offended last on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I did, thank you. I'm glowing. Thanks. I put

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<v Speaker 3>a tan on.

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<v Speaker 1>And then this morning I woke up and as I

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<v Speaker 1>was Ben and I have our morning FaceTime chat, and

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<v Speaker 1>as I was leaving, he was like, you look great, babe,

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<v Speaker 1>have a great day. And I was like thank He

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<v Speaker 1>was like, don't forget to moisturize those knees.

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<v Speaker 3>And so you went back inside luke your knees up

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<v Speaker 3>and then left. I'm glad I.

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<v Speaker 1>Should ask here's my knee moisturize that I have on me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad I brought it to work because I

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<v Speaker 1>was so self conscious.

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<v Speaker 3>What I take from this is that I make you

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<v Speaker 3>a better person. You should thank me.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you kick me while I'm down, because.

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<v Speaker 3>He's fantastic knean improvements that you have though.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode

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<v Speaker 4>of life.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm cut, I'm Laura, I'm Brittany, and I have very

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<v Speaker 1>moisturized knees.

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<v Speaker 4>Well done, Thank you, well done. I didn't realize that

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<v Speaker 4>it caused you so much upset I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you equally noticed how moist my knees are,

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<v Speaker 1>like you noticed how dry they were the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone, welcome back to another ask on can't where we answer?

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<v Speaker 2>You're deep, you're dark, and you're burning questions. And I

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<v Speaker 2>have a question for you guys, both of you. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you ever in later in life discovered that you have

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<v Speaker 2>an allergy to something?

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<v Speaker 3>And if so, how Yes I have?

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<v Speaker 4>But my story is going to be so zero point

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<v Speaker 4>zero zero one percent.

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<v Speaker 3>I realized that I had an allergy.

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<v Speaker 1>To rats, as in like men, no, I wish.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm allergic to them all I wish no, because you

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<v Speaker 4>can develop allergies. You can develop like sensitivity, certain things

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<v Speaker 4>like after prolonged exposure. And back in my past.

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<v Speaker 1>Life, which was over a decade ago.

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<v Speaker 4>I worked in a research lab and I ended up

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<v Speaker 4>developing an allergy.

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<v Speaker 3>To the rats.

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<v Speaker 4>And it was really bad because you're already gowned up

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<v Speaker 4>and stuff like you already covered.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just think that that's like revenge the rats though,

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<v Speaker 2>because you're there trying to stick things in them and

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<v Speaker 2>doing experiments on them, and they're like, you know, how,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to really fuck her up sinus problems.

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<v Speaker 4>Fair, but they did get cocaine every day.

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<v Speaker 1>When Samuel Loose summerrat them.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a trade off.

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<v Speaker 1>I have developed two allergies later in life, I was

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<v Speaker 1>one of those kids that went through. I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>anything wrong with me, Like I didn't need the braces,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have sinus problems, I didn't have I just perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just scooted through.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say this because my sister got the short end

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<v Speaker 1>of the stick, right, Like she got everything. She had

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<v Speaker 1>flat feet, she needed athotic, she needed bracest, she needed hearing.

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<v Speaker 3>Eight she lost her hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>So like she got everything, and I didn't ever have

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<v Speaker 1>an allergy or anything any great.

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<v Speaker 4>His nickname at school was ski jump Nose because she

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<v Speaker 4>has such a perfect ski jump nose, which I wish.

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<v Speaker 3>Was a joke, but actually it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that wasn't a compliment. There were ski jump

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<v Speaker 1>noses weren't in when I was seven.

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<v Speaker 4>Laura Rhinoplastiah, that's what everyone goes for, do you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm going to sound like a winker, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>it's a flex I do like my I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a great little nose. And now I know that it

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<v Speaker 1>is apparently a desirable nose. And I say that because

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<v Speaker 1>when people call me ski jump nose, Laura, it was offensive.

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<v Speaker 3>They were bullying me.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like, oh, I could word to jump down

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<v Speaker 1>your nose, and I'm like whatever, But people send me

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<v Speaker 1>messages now I'm not kidding, saying that their screenshot my

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<v Speaker 1>nose to take it to get as the reference to

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<v Speaker 1>get a nose job.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm so flattered. I'm like, I'm like, people want

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<v Speaker 3>my nose. That's incredible. And I always sound like a wenkup,

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<v Speaker 3>but I just what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, go off, queen, I thank you, ski jump right

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<v Speaker 4>off that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but I have super bad hay fever most of

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<v Speaker 1>the year now, which I've never had in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>This happened like the.

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<v Speaker 1>Last two years. And I don't want to go into

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<v Speaker 1>this allergy too much because I have a feeling it's

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<v Speaker 1>your allergy. But this year I'm allergic to garlic. I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot eat garlic. Guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys.

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<v Speaker 4>So I went to the pub the other night with

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<v Speaker 4>the kids and Matt and my favorite food in the

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<v Speaker 4>entire world is a pub chili prawn past Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>I fucking love it.

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<v Speaker 2>So the kids are running around, I ordered myself my

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<v Speaker 2>chilipron pasta. I was walking around like watching the kids

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<v Speaker 2>and eating it at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>Delicious.

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<v Speaker 4>Halfway through.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, God, it's really got a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>garlic to it, doesn't it. And I was like, hmm,

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<v Speaker 2>it's very garlicy. Anyway, we're there were some other friends

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<v Speaker 2>and I got about three quarters away through this pasta,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I started talking to a girl who I

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<v Speaker 2>know not that well, mind you, and she was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that pasta must have a lot of garlic in it.

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<v Speaker 2>I stunk so bad that it was coming out of

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<v Speaker 2>my armpits.

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<v Speaker 3>I was to try and to have sex with me

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<v Speaker 3>that night, and he was like, Laura, you smell like garbage.

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<v Speaker 2>The garlic perforated everything. And I'm talking everything all my

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<v Speaker 2>whole body alergy.

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<v Speaker 3>My poos for two days smelt like garlic.

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<v Speaker 4>My farts smelt like garlic, My underarms smelt like garlic.

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<v Speaker 3>My mouth smelt like garlic.

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<v Speaker 1>I also don't know how to break this to you.

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<v Speaker 1>You just smelt because because you don't consume a food, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>And it comes out your pause thirty seconds later like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>This happens with me in asparagus and twenty percent of

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<v Speaker 4>people have the same enzyme deficiency and it makes your

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<v Speaker 4>peace smell like asparagus.

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<v Speaker 3>So you have it for garlic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so it's very similar. It's an enzyme reaction, but

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<v Speaker 2>it is an intolerance. So I I went deep on

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<v Speaker 2>the research and I have a friend who works in allergence,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, dude, something's not right, like intigestion problems,

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<v Speaker 2>like it really went off.

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<v Speaker 3>I also went off sis and it was fucked up.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I had this revelation where I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>because I wasn't drinking, I was like, back in the day,

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<v Speaker 4>i'd go to the pub, I'd have my chili prom

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<v Speaker 4>pasta several glasses of wine and be fucked up. And

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<v Speaker 4>now I go out with my children, I have a

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<v Speaker 4>prom past and it's the garlic cultures.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a dream a year old? How did I

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<v Speaker 3>get here? Like it's garlic, that's all Gali? Has anyone

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<v Speaker 3>seen that kid? There is a hilarious reel.

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<v Speaker 4>This little boy, he must be like two years old,

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<v Speaker 4>and he keeps saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Gali gomic and the mom.

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<v Speaker 2>The mom's like, what do you want? And he wanted,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, minced garlic out of a jar. You know what,

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<v Speaker 2>We'll just put it in here, Garla. This is what

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<v Speaker 2>you want to eat, Garlaic you want garlic garlac.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want turkey?

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<v Speaker 1>You wan't garlic?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I put it in a ball?

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<v Speaker 1>Glic? I think our Instagram feeds it very different, algorith

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<v Speaker 1>quite unique. No. If I eat garlic now, I have

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<v Speaker 1>been a garlic fiend my entire life. Cannot get enough

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Put it in everything, cereal garlic wee picks

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<v Speaker 1>nekay exaggeration.

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<v Speaker 3>But I eat it a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I can't eat it. If I eat it, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like an IBS trigger. I am like I've swallowed a watermelon.

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<v Speaker 1>Like my belly is huge, hard, and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Thought, like, our boss, what your own pit smell like?

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<v Speaker 1>They're not too bad, but it's the it's what's coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of me seasoned. Yeah, oh my god. Like now

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<v Speaker 1>Ben will not put in any food. He's like, you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot be trusted. Yeah, So that's like the earthquake.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it the type of thing like bo where you

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<v Speaker 4>can't really smell your own.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, it's not like that. I wish it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I could smell everything. It was so offensive, even to myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to get away from myself. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>a real shame because usually.

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<v Speaker 1>Away for myself that's hard to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually it's Matt who instigates like the adult time in

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<v Speaker 2>our house, Like he's the one, he's always up for it,

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<v Speaker 2>and unfortunately I was the one that was up for it,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was like, I would rather go and sit

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<v Speaker 2>in the bathroom and masturbate than have sex with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, He's like, you stink so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's a low point where they're like, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>no from me.

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<v Speaker 4>That was two days straight, two nights ruled out. Yeah, anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>that's I just want to give you guys that update.

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<v Speaker 4>No more Garlly for Laura Garli.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you gonna do with the chili pasta? We

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<v Speaker 3>can do that. You're in a new era. It's really upsetting.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like one of the small joys of my life

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<v Speaker 4>that has been taken away from me.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's a specific species of garlic.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe you could try like garlic powder. You could try

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<v Speaker 4>the minxed one. Don't give up yet. It's like people

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<v Speaker 4>who just accept gluten allergies and lactose allergies. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>that's the best things in life unless try other things first,

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<v Speaker 4>unless you're a Celiac, and then I really highly highly

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<v Speaker 4>recommend that you don't take Keisha's advice and you share yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely avoid gluten because you could die from that. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if you are shitting yourself, you stop eating.

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<v Speaker 3>Laura would happily shit. I would should.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the stand it's how it affects everyone else. If

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<v Speaker 4>it was only affecting me, I'd be okay.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, before we get into vised and unsubscribes, Keisha, you

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<v Speaker 2>also had an update the other week. We were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about something that you stole from Bunnings if you missed it.

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<v Speaker 3>An alleged store.

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<v Speaker 4>I stole it from a hardware store that will not.

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<v Speaker 3>Be named Bunnings.

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<v Speaker 4>And also mit atand basically, you know how you go

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<v Speaker 4>into a store and you get a sample pot of paint,

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<v Speaker 4>turns out you're supposed to pay for that sample pot

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<v Speaker 4>of paint.

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<v Speaker 2>And Keisha, that was like a real revelation to her

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<v Speaker 2>and she has stolen many sample pots of paints over

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<v Speaker 2>the years.

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<v Speaker 3>Turns out I'm not the only one.

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<v Speaker 4>Because firstly, we got I specifically to my own Instagram,

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<v Speaker 4>got about one hundred messages from people being like, so

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<v Speaker 4>today was the day that I learned that also I

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<v Speaker 4>am a thief.

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<v Speaker 3>I should also be doing communities.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever there were so many.

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<v Speaker 3>So so, so many.

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<v Speaker 4>But the funniest thing was after I posted this, we

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<v Speaker 4>asked everyone, like, what's something that you've accidentally been doing

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<v Speaker 4>that's illegal? And the amount of people that have been

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<v Speaker 4>stealing barbecue gas bottles is out of.

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<v Speaker 1>Role, which is so funny because there was this one

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<v Speaker 1>go in particular that so Laura's looking at a shock.

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<v Speaker 3>But the gas bottles is something called swap and go.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you've when you've got a gas bottle and

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<v Speaker 1>it's empty, you go in and you swap it out,

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<v Speaker 1>so you leave yours, get the new one, which you

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<v Speaker 1>pay for, and then you leave. But people people thought

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<v Speaker 1>you just swapped it and went.

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<v Speaker 3>In the name. They need to change the name that's

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<v Speaker 3>on them.

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<v Speaker 4>Swap and go is very misleading. But someone also wrote

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<v Speaker 4>to us and said that this is actually the opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>This is someone being super generous. They tried to pay

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<v Speaker 2>for the air that they put in their tire.

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<v Speaker 4>They went to the petro station put air in their

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<v Speaker 4>tire and then went inside to pay for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Revelation, that's not that funny. You pay for air overseas,

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<v Speaker 1>that's such a I just did this big Scottish road trip.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to pay for air in your tie.

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<v Speaker 3>Are they getting it.

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<v Speaker 4>From an oxygen tank or are they just getting it

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<v Speaker 4>from the air and they're charging people to funnel it

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<v Speaker 4>into their tires.

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<v Speaker 1>It's literally the same, and there's lots of other countries

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<v Speaker 1>that do it. But it's the same setup as you

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<v Speaker 1>would hear.

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<v Speaker 3>When you go and pull up.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think there are some places in Australia that

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<v Speaker 1>you pay for air too, but it's the same setup

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<v Speaker 1>where you just put the cord thing into your tires.

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<v Speaker 2>And then have you seen The law Axe? The Law

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<v Speaker 2>Axe is a kid's movie. It's all a kid's book. Brilliant,

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<v Speaker 2>brilliant movie. If anyone's free this weekend five an unsubscribed

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<v Speaker 2>The law Axe is a scene in there where the

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<v Speaker 2>guy who runs the town starts charging for air.

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<v Speaker 4>He's bottling air. That's what this reminds me of. It's

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<v Speaker 4>like a dystopian universe. But no, I've never once paid

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<v Speaker 4>for air. Turns out, I've never paid for example, Potter paint. However,

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<v Speaker 4>I have paid for my swap and go barbecue gas bottle. Guys,

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<v Speaker 4>let's get in to our vibes and unsubscribes. Britney, what

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<v Speaker 4>is your Vibe for the week or unsubscribed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same thing that moisturized my knee this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>People sit back.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a little tiny tub from summer Fridays that

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<v Speaker 1>I've recently discovered. What it is is actually a jet

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<v Speaker 1>lag mask. So for anyone that's flying, I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>say jet lag, but it's for a plane, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you know how you get so dehydrated on a plane.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if anyone else is like me, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was for a long time that person that would

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<v Speaker 1>take like the big scary white face mask on and

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<v Speaker 1>I was sitting my seat next to all these people

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<v Speaker 1>planted on my face and keep it on for an

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<v Speaker 1>hour or two.

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<v Speaker 2>So fine, I have nothing against that. When I see

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<v Speaker 2>your checky has done that, I'm like, she was prepared.

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<v Speaker 2>That's excellent.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes I did it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing wrong with it. But now you can do

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<v Speaker 1>it without having the big white scary face masking on.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is literally just a cream that's really thick

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<v Speaker 1>like a mask, but when you put it on, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>look like it is. It just looks like you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a really moisturized face. And I used it for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time my recent trip to Romania. And I absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>loved it. It was very hydrating, very moisturizing. I just

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<v Speaker 1>sporadically put it on, like topped it up through the

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<v Speaker 1>plane because I was flying for like thirty hours.

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<v Speaker 3>It's also excellent if you have carpet burn on your knees.

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<v Speaker 1>Great for carpet burn on your knees. It's called Summer Fridays.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in like this bluey little tube and it is

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<v Speaker 1>the jet lag mask. So that is my recommendation this

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<v Speaker 1>week for anyone that might be flying, but you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to do long haul flights. It's even if you've

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<v Speaker 1>got like an hour or two. It's like that that

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<v Speaker 1>aircorn in a plane sucks you dry.

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<v Speaker 4>Keisha my vibe for this week. It's an episode of

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<v Speaker 4>The Human Lab with Esther Perel. Now Esther Perel, she's

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<v Speaker 4>been on lifel on Cut before. She is a world

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<v Speaker 4>redowance psychotherapist. She's probably the guru of relationships and sex

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<v Speaker 4>right she's the bee's knees. And I did find it

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<v Speaker 4>quite hilarious and kind of ironic that Huboman did an

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<v Speaker 4>episode with her on relationships, because allegedly he had six going.

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<v Speaker 3>At the one time.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure if you's those articles back in like

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was like June July, there was a

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<v Speaker 4>whole thing about human.

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<v Speaker 1>However, this episode I really enjoyed that.

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<v Speaker 4>It was kind of a mix between studies about relationships

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<v Speaker 4>and science and neuroplasticity or synaptic plasticity and how that

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<v Speaker 4>kind of changes brain connections and why that impacts our

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<v Speaker 4>relationships as we age.

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<v Speaker 2>To be fair, Hubanman sounds like the perfect person to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about relationships. He had so many of them on

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<v Speaker 2>the goal at once. But that's why it's so ballsy.

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<v Speaker 1>Fancy fancy having like cheating with six different people and allegedly, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not allegedly. I mean they've all come out and

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<v Speaker 1>said the same thing. They've got proof. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's allegedly. I think it's just he did it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think we have to He can't see us now.

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<v Speaker 1>He did it. He put his dick too many places.

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<v Speaker 1>But fancy having the balls to do that and then

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<v Speaker 1>go on get like a world leading relationship specialist on

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<v Speaker 1>unless he's talking about infidelity, like why do people cheat?

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<v Speaker 3>That would do.

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<v Speaker 4>Speak about infidelity in this episode? Yeah, So it's over

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<v Speaker 4>two hours, so it is a long one. It's not

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<v Speaker 4>going to be for everyone because Hubanman, I mean, his

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<v Speaker 4>way of delivering content is a little bit robotic. He

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<v Speaker 4>like he's a lecturer. You know, he's an academic and dry.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got to kind of be into that if you're

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<v Speaker 4>into his content. But yeah, Esther, if this this is,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I've listened to a lot of Esther Perel.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we all have. We've all consumed a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of her things, her books, her podcasts. This in particular,

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<v Speaker 4>I just felt like she she shone. I feel as

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<v Speaker 4>though she just shared so much knowledge and she had

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<v Speaker 4>that perfect balance of well, this is what the studies

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<v Speaker 4>teach us about relationships, and this is what people have

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<v Speaker 4>experienced in therapy. She's been a therapist for gosh, it

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<v Speaker 4>must be like over forty years now. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>really recommend it. It is on YouTube or anywhere you

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<v Speaker 4>get your podcasts. It is called Humanman lab Esther Perel

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<v Speaker 4>How to Find, Build and Maintain Healthy Romantic Relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>I love everything Esther Pearrel. So I'm into that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well let's link that, but let's also link the episode

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<v Speaker 1>that we did with Esther Perel. We did a wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>episode with her like that was such a for me.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a bit of like a highlight being a

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<v Speaker 1>relationships based pod. To sit down and talk to her

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<v Speaker 1>was really cool. So we'll link that one as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a Netflix recommendation and at this Court Into

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<v Speaker 2>the Fire you might have seen it. It is a

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<v Speaker 2>documentary that is currently trending, but I honestly want to

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<v Speaker 2>say it is one of the best documentaries I have

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<v Speaker 2>ever seen. It is truly fantastic, fantastic but also devastatingly sad.

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<v Speaker 2>But the way in which the narrative of the documentary

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<v Speaker 2>is constructed is so well thought out. The storytelling is brilliant,

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<v Speaker 2>and the story itself is just like it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Unbelievable that this could possibly happen.

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<v Speaker 2>So to give you sort of like structurally, it's two episodes,

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<v Speaker 2>very easy to watch in one evening, which I did,

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<v Speaker 2>And the story is about a fourteen year old girl

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<v Speaker 2>who goes missing and what happens. And I won't tell

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<v Speaker 2>you the full you know, I don't want to give

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<v Speaker 2>too much away, but basically, she was adopted out when

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<v Speaker 2>she was a newborn baby nine months old, sorry so

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<v Speaker 2>not newborn, but nine months old. Her mother was very

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<v Speaker 2>very young biological mother was super young, and that's why

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<v Speaker 2>she adopted her out. Now, her biological mother found out

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<v Speaker 2>when her daughter should have been twenty four that she

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<v Speaker 2>had been missing for a decade, and obviously her biological mother, Kathy,

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<v Speaker 2>she really felt compelled to find out where the hell

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<v Speaker 2>did her daughter go. And so this is a documentary

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<v Speaker 2>all around her and how she describes it, going into

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<v Speaker 2>the fire to find her daughter and to find out

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<v Speaker 2>what happened to her. And the documentary does have a resolution.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate documentaries where it's unsolved, especially in this instance

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<v Speaker 2>because it surround such a young girl. You do find

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<v Speaker 2>out what's happened. There is closure in it, but it

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<v Speaker 2>is horrifying and fascinating, and it's just brilliantly, brilliantly put together.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone should go watch it Into the Fire on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get into the questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Question number one. Recently, I found texts on my boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>of five year's phone that appeared to be organizing to

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<v Speaker 1>have sex with a sex worker, as well as messaging

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<v Speaker 1>other girls to meet him out while he was working

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<v Speaker 1>in another country. I don't know if this ever eventuated,

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<v Speaker 1>but the messages were there, stepping it up. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>see each other. Mascha's ie work in Australia and he

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<v Speaker 1>works overseas for a lot of the year. He has

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<v Speaker 1>a much higher sex drive than me and long distance

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<v Speaker 1>slash not much. Sex doesn't bother me, but it really

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<v Speaker 1>bothers him. I haven't told my boyfriend I know this yet,

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<v Speaker 1>and I haven't told any friends or family. I know

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as I tell anyone, they will hate him

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<v Speaker 1>and tell me the things that I would tell anyone

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<v Speaker 1>else to break up with him. The problem is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thirty next year, I want to have a baby in

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<v Speaker 1>the next two years, and I had my life pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much sorted with him on paper. He has his faults,

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<v Speaker 1>but he is my best friend. What's that. The thing

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<v Speaker 1>is he makes an enormous amount of money and I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>In our future, I know my children will be looked

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<v Speaker 1>after and they won't have to struggle. I know I

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<v Speaker 1>won't have to struggle financially. That is, I come from

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<v Speaker 1>a family who doesn't have a lot of money, and

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<v Speaker 1>being with my boyfriend means I know I can take

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<v Speaker 1>care of them better than if I would just single

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<v Speaker 1>on my own. Right now, I don't know whether to

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<v Speaker 1>confront my boyfriend, because I know as soon as I

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<v Speaker 1>say this out loud, I can't take it back and

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<v Speaker 1>it will mean that I have to break up with him,

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<v Speaker 1>as cheating is not something I want relationship. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>morally wrong to just look the other way because of

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<v Speaker 1>the benefits this relationship brings me my family and my

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<v Speaker 1>future family. I know this seems like a super obvious answer,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know how hard life can be. Being with

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<v Speaker 1>him means my life will in some ways be easier

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<v Speaker 1>with him in it, or if this will always be

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<v Speaker 1>the back of my mind and ruin my happiness even

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<v Speaker 1>with the security it brings, help me. Please, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm old, have nothing to show for myself, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm scared I'll never be a mother if we break up.

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<v Speaker 1>Now such a sad question.

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<v Speaker 2>I know how and what I want to say, And

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<v Speaker 2>the problem is is that it does emulate what your

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<v Speaker 2>friends are going to say to you and the things

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<v Speaker 2>that you would say to yourself if you spoke it

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<v Speaker 2>out loud. And I want to tread carefully because you

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<v Speaker 2>know you've said The reason why you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>tell your friends is because you know that they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you that you should not be in this relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is what I want to tell you as well,

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<v Speaker 2>because I just don't think that the benefits of financial

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<v Speaker 2>secure in a relationship outweigh the necessity of trust, respect,

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<v Speaker 2>and fidelity if that's what's important to you. There are

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<v Speaker 2>people in the world who can be in relationships that

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<v Speaker 2>are open relationships where they know they know that their

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<v Speaker 2>partners are doing X, Y Z, and they're okay with that.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is a very different situation. You are not

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<v Speaker 2>okay with it. You have said that you know what

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<v Speaker 2>will mean that you need to break up with him,

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<v Speaker 2>as cheating is not something that.

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<v Speaker 3>You want in your relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>The reality is is that whether you confront him about

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<v Speaker 2>this or not, this type of behavior will continue to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>And the only way that you can have a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>about it that doesn't necessarily have to end in cheating,

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<v Speaker 2>but at least brings everything to the surface and gives

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<v Speaker 2>you and him the opportunity to work through it, is

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<v Speaker 2>to tell him that you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know there are so many parts to this that I

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<v Speaker 1>want to break down.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Same.

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<v Speaker 1>The first part is I want to validate your feelings

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<v Speaker 1>of your financial insecurity and your issues around that because

0:20:56.960 --> 0:20:59.720
<v Speaker 1>that is a really huge issue. The cost of living

0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:02.640
<v Speaker 1>is so expensive and it's really hard to make ends meet.

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<v Speaker 1>And on top of that, if you want to have

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<v Speaker 1>kids and you're not with a partner and you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do that on your own, that's another expense. At

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, you cannot deny that it's

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<v Speaker 1>more expensive to be single. When you get into a relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>everything the stresses and the pressures and your financial stresses,

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<v Speaker 1>everything harves right. All of a sudden, you're paying renting

0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:23.520
<v Speaker 1>a house on your own, someone moves in, you harve it,

0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:26.280
<v Speaker 1>You have the groceries, you have the bills. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>struggling a little bit, you have someone to rely on.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it is, definitely has a comfort in a security.

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<v Speaker 1>What you need to decide is what you want more, because,

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<v Speaker 1>like Laura said, if you're okay with having that family

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<v Speaker 1>life and kids and financial security, know when your partners

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<v Speaker 1>off doing that, that's totally fine. As long as you

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<v Speaker 1>are happy with that relationship. There's no right or wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>But you've said you're not and you've said you feel old.

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<v Speaker 1>You said you're old, and you're worried it's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen to you. I want to stop you in

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<v Speaker 1>your tracks right there. You are not even thirty yet,

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<v Speaker 1>you are twenty nine years old. Yeah, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to keep bringing this back to me, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just want people to realize that it is not old

0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:11.840
<v Speaker 1>and age is literally a number. Of course that is

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<v Speaker 1>not accurate when we're talking about your biological clock. But

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<v Speaker 1>I only met my partner at thirty five, I only

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<v Speaker 1>froze my first eggs at thirty three.

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<v Speaker 3>I met Matt at thirty one, and you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty nine, and I know I remember feeling. You always

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<v Speaker 1>feel at that age like you are older and time

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<v Speaker 1>is running out, but you're not. And it really distresses

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<v Speaker 1>me that you think you need to settle down with

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<v Speaker 1>someone that has this these morals that don't align with

0:22:36.119 --> 0:22:38.320
<v Speaker 1>yours because you think you're running out of time, because

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<v Speaker 1>you're absolutely not. There is so much time. Laura and

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<v Speaker 1>I went on The Bachelor at thirty years old, like

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<v Speaker 1>we started that chapter of our life older than you

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<v Speaker 1>are now.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, look, there's, like we said, there's so many

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<v Speaker 2>parts of this and firstly the cheating part. Obviously we

0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:55.800
<v Speaker 2>need to go deep on that, but I think that

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<v Speaker 2>more so than going deep on that, there's a self

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<v Speaker 2>esteem part to this. You are allowing your boundaries that

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<v Speaker 2>you have in place to erode. And what happens when

0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:08.399
<v Speaker 2>you don't stick to your boundaries, your boundary being that

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<v Speaker 2>the two of you agree to fidelity in your relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>You go, Okay, I'm going to turn a blind eye

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<v Speaker 2>to this because I'm so scared that he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>leave me, because I don't think I can get better

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<v Speaker 2>than him, because I think he is the best person

0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:22.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm ever going to date. Then the next time that

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<v Speaker 2>he does something that is against what your boundaries are,

0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:28.159
<v Speaker 2>it's a little bit worse. But you're already there. You

0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:31.520
<v Speaker 2>already forgave one thing. So your boundaries continue to erode.

0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:34.320
<v Speaker 2>And what we know is is that as your boundaries erode,

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:36.720
<v Speaker 2>so does your self esteem, and so does what you

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<v Speaker 2>think you are valued at and what you can give

0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:41.679
<v Speaker 2>it a relationship and what you can receive back. And

0:23:41.760 --> 0:23:46.600
<v Speaker 2>as that happens, you will continuously put yourself second, third, fourth,

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<v Speaker 2>fifth down the priority list. My fear for you here

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<v Speaker 2>is is the imbalance in this relationship that you are

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<v Speaker 2>creating allowances simply because he has a lot more money

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<v Speaker 2>than what you do. And I guess for me, like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, Britt, is a huge conversation for yourself as

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<v Speaker 2>to whether you can be okay with it. You have

0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:07.919
<v Speaker 2>said you're not okay, and I think most people wouldn't be.

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:10.480
<v Speaker 2>There may be some people who are able to turn

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<v Speaker 2>a blind eye and physically be okay, but I would

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<v Speaker 2>say that that relationship's probably not based on love. It's

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<v Speaker 2>based on a financial beneficial situation, and that's not what

0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:22.399
<v Speaker 2>your relationship is. You're not with him for his money,

0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:24.040
<v Speaker 2>and if you are with him for his money, then

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<v Speaker 2>that's a totally different relationship. So I think a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>has to be had. I don't think you should be

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<v Speaker 2>turning blind eyes to massive, massive fractures and to things

0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:36.719
<v Speaker 2>that people do that really compromise the trust and respect

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<v Speaker 2>that you have for each other.

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<v Speaker 1>There'll be people that don't agree with this, but I

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<v Speaker 1>truly believe not all cheating is equal. There are so

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<v Speaker 1>many different categories of cheating. This kind of cheating. This

0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:51.080
<v Speaker 1>isn't the kind of cheating where it's like I found

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:52.959
<v Speaker 1>out my partner made a mistake. He went out, he

0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:55.400
<v Speaker 1>was on a bux, he got drunk. He's sorry. He's

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<v Speaker 1>never done before this year. Also isn't just premeditated like

0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 1>he's having it with one per He's booking sex workers,

0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:06.199
<v Speaker 1>he is organizing sex and hookups with other random people. Like,

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:09.160
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of premeditation here and a lot of commitment,

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:11.920
<v Speaker 1>and he's also going as far as to pay for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's different to slipping up one night and

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<v Speaker 1>being really apologetic about it. So you're also still in

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:21.000
<v Speaker 1>your early days. You haven't had your kids and settled

0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:22.879
<v Speaker 1>down long term yet. So if this is what he

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:24.639
<v Speaker 1>is setting up for your future, and this is the

0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:28.520
<v Speaker 1>foundation he's saying, like I'm already okay with this, it

0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:30.919
<v Speaker 1>won't get better. It will get worse when you are

0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:33.919
<v Speaker 1>together for ten fifteen years, when you have kids and kids.

0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:36.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't have kids, as we all know, but I

0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:39.879
<v Speaker 1>know that kids are not the band aid. Kids are

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<v Speaker 1>not going to fix a problem. Kids going to add

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<v Speaker 1>so much more stress and pressure. Chances are it could

0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:47.200
<v Speaker 1>very well drive him further away if he's not already

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:49.200
<v Speaker 1>connected to you in that way. I think the best

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:52.200
<v Speaker 1>thing for you to do here, and it's really fucking hard,

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:56.080
<v Speaker 1>is to accept that this is the person that is

0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:58.359
<v Speaker 1>in front of you. Yeah, you can have that conversation

0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:00.640
<v Speaker 1>and see how he deals with it. You know he's

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. I don't think you will be able to

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<v Speaker 1>live with that long term. Even if you say you're

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:07.879
<v Speaker 1>okay with it now, it will wear you down.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so look, I mean, I second guess even the

0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:13.159
<v Speaker 2>way that we've answered this question, because I think if

0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 2>you took away the financial aspects, I know how we

0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:18.119
<v Speaker 2>would answer it. I know the response we would have,

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<v Speaker 2>and it would be a lot more cutting, and it

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<v Speaker 2>would be a lot more pointed. I think the reason

0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 2>why we're trying to be so gentle is because it's

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:28.440
<v Speaker 2>obviously something that's so hard for you, and you are

0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 2>literally saying, I will put myself second. I will put

0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:36.680
<v Speaker 2>myself second if this relationship will continue to financially benefit

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 2>me in some way. I don't think for your own

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:43.320
<v Speaker 2>sense of self that you can continue in this relationship,

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:45.200
<v Speaker 2>regardless of the fact that he is your best friend,

0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 2>regardless of the fact that financially you're going to have

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:51.199
<v Speaker 2>to you know, figure out. But the reality is is

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:54.639
<v Speaker 2>that sometimes life takes big pivots and things are not

0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 2>the path that we thought it was going to be

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 2>for us. And the reality is is that sometimes it's

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 2>better you will meet someone else. You will be in

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 2>a new relationship. You'll be with someone where there's not

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 2>an imbalance of power, where there's not an inequality, where

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:10.399
<v Speaker 2>you're not staying with them simply because they financially have

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:12.479
<v Speaker 2>money and they're cheating on you. Like, think about that.

0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 2>That is so fucked that you're like, I'm going to

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:18.399
<v Speaker 2>stay in this relationship. It's okay that he cheats on

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 2>me because he takes care of me financially. I also

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 2>want to say, I think it is a very bad

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:26.679
<v Speaker 2>idea to not speak to any of your family and

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:30.359
<v Speaker 2>friends about this, because family and friends, as much as

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:32.920
<v Speaker 2>sometimes they might be a little bit brutal, they're also

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 2>very very good at holding up a mirror to the

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 2>values that we want in our life and to the

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 2>things that we want. So do not isolate yourself from

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:43.560
<v Speaker 2>your family and friends for fear of the things that

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:46.520
<v Speaker 2>they will say. Talk to the people who you trust.

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Talk to the people who know him and who know you,

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 2>because they are the people who will give you the

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:54.360
<v Speaker 2>most honest feedback. And I think that with that feedback,

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:57.119
<v Speaker 2>it will give you the confidence to figure out, Okay,

0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 2>what are my next steps?

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:01.199
<v Speaker 1>Reason I'm being gentle about it, and I am being

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:03.159
<v Speaker 1>gentle about it. Do I think you should stay in

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 1>that relationship? No, But I'm being gentle because I understand

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 1>this isn't just a Hey, my boyfriend's cheating. I don't

0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>want to be alone, which should I stay? That's different.

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:14.399
<v Speaker 1>But you are not only putting yourself first, but your

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:17.960
<v Speaker 1>whole concern is around your extended family. So obviously he's

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:20.640
<v Speaker 1>making enough that you are helping them. So I understand

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:23.920
<v Speaker 1>you thinking walking away isn't just you. You think walking

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 1>away could affect your parents in a way, or your siblings,

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:30.320
<v Speaker 1>or whoever it is that you are helping financially. That

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 1>is unfortunately a lot of extra stress that you are

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 1>taking on yourself. And I know a lot of people

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:37.880
<v Speaker 1>do take that stress on so I totally get it.

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 1>But you will meet somebody else, and you will create

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:43.320
<v Speaker 1>another life with somebody, and you will be able to

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>have kids with somebody. I don't want to say you

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 1>will be able to, but the opportunity is going to

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:49.959
<v Speaker 1>be there. A lot of us get stuck in, you know,

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:52.320
<v Speaker 1>we speak about it all the time, the sunk cost

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 1>fallacy of we've put five years in and I'm already thirty,

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to waste the last five years.

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to start again having to meet somebody.

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 1>And that is all also a dangerous place to be

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 1>because you're not wasting that time. And I really want

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 1>everyone to get their head around this. It took me

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 1>a long time to get my head around it. You're

0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 1>not wasting that five years if you leave and start again.

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 1>You've had an amazing five years with somebody. He was

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 1>your best friend, You've created memories together, You've learnt from him,

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 1>you know what you do and don't want. One of

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 1>those things that you now know you don't want is

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 1>a partner that cheats on you. You want somebody that

0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 1>is committed to you. You will find.

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 2>That, but you may also not leave this relationship. Having

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 2>a conversation with him about it and telling him you

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 2>know and holding a mirror up to his behavior doesn't

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 2>mean that you are taking the very first step and

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 2>being like, fuck off, I'm out of here. Like it

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that you're leaving right away, but it means

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 2>that there are consequences for his actions, and that he

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 2>knows you know, and so maybe who knows, Maybe that

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 2>might kick him into gear. It rarely does, but it

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 2>might like she's not going to leave straight away, like

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 2>she just isn't. I would guarantee that if you spoke

0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 2>to your family and said I am in a relationship

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 2>with a man who cheats on me because it financially

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 2>benefits all of us.

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 3>Your mum, your dad, your.

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Siblings, whoever is financially benefiting from this situation.

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 3>Would be horrified. Well, we don't know that. I think

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 3>they would be.

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 2>I think you can say we don't know that, but

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 2>I think there would be very few parents who would

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 2>encourage someone to stay in a relationship of infidelity because

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 2>they felt the pressures too financially.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean my advice would differ. I wouldn't be telling

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 1>my family right now because that's just too much external

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 1>pressure everyone, every single person in your life that you tell,

0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:33.360
<v Speaker 1>I can guarantee you will say, get the fuck out

0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 1>of there. And that's probably not what you need right now,

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 1>because you already know that. I think you need to

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 1>go in a bit more gently and get there on

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>your own. Everyone. There's no one that you were going

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 1>to tell that it's going to be like, oh, what

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>a catch, Like stay you know, so it's real, but

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't you do need to talk to someone. Definitely,

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>don't isolate yourself, but personally, you know, the second you

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 1>tell all your friends and family that that's all, they're

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 1>going to be talking about why you still with him?

0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Have you had the conversation, Yeah, when you're leaving fuck

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>him off. He doesn't deserve you.

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't.

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not convinced you need that pressure right now. But

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 1>whether you speak to somebody that is an acquaintance, like friendly,

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 1>but not like that's who I used to download on,

0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 1>not my closest people. Maybe it's a therapist, like, maybe

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 1>it's professional help. But you shouldn't be keeping this to yourself.

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 1>And I love that you've told us. We feel so

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 1>grateful for that, but we're not there with you in

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>the day to day I think.

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I would love to know, Bri, like, what

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 2>are your opinions on relationships that are based purely on

0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 2>financial gain? In terms of like, I'm going to be

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 2>in this relationship with this person. I love them, but

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to turn a blind eye to behaviors that

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 2>absolutely are so compromising to what I want in my life.

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 2>But I financially benefit from this, So I'm going to stay.

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:43.680
<v Speaker 1>It's not for me, but I have nothing wrong with

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 1>it if it suits that couple, Like I'm not gonna

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 1>yuck anyone's yum. If there's a relationship that's happy to

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 1>make compromises, they still live happily together.

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it makes you think there's loads of really unattractive,

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 2>very very very wealthy men.

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 3>Who get fucking hot as models, and it makes you question.

0:31:58.840 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 1>It's not their personality.

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:03.959
<v Speaker 4>Would she date him if he was poor? Probably not,

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 4>But that's what I mean.

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Finances play so much more of a role in relationships

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 1>than we either a wanna admit and want to be

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 1>truthful about, which is why she's told us and not

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 1>her friends, because we're not gonna judge her and we're

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>not in her day to day life. We're in her face.

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 1>But finances are a huge thing. You cannot deny that,

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 1>even if it's not your most important thing there is.

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I can guarantee you there's not one person listening right

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 1>now that hasn't thought about money today.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if you've got money, there are so many things

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 2>that this is not a guaranteed for. And the other

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 2>thing that it's not guaranteed. For is, if you have

0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 2>a baby with this guy, if you start a family

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 2>with somebody who is consciously cheating on you, what's that

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 2>life going to look like when that kid's three or

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 2>four or five. Are you gonna continue to turn a

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 2>blind eye to this for the rest of your life

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 2>You're okay with that? Or are you're gonna raise children

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 2>in an environment where their parents have such a disdain

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 2>for each other because one of them's cheating all the time.

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 1>But there's also the fact of, like, you know, you're

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to be good doing constant SDI check how

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 1>frequently is he with them? Like, you've got to look

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 1>after your sexual health, and you've got to be hyper

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 1>aware if he wants to come home and have unprotected

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 1>sex with you, you have to have the conversation. You don't

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 1>have to break up with him. We're not saying that, well,

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 1>we are saying you have that convo and then you.

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 3>Decide question number two.

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 2>I've recently got engaged and we have already started talking

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 2>about when and where as these are the biggest questions

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 2>we have to answer. We would like to have it

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<v Speaker 2>maybe this time next year to allow people into state

0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:31.760
<v Speaker 2>and internationally to sort their lives out and come, Brittany,

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 2>did you write this question in?

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 3>Now? The big question is where?

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 2>My family is all East of Australia. Literally, this is

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 2>you and we live in Western Australia.

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 3>That's not you.

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 2>My fiance's immediate family is here in Western Australia as well.

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:46.719
<v Speaker 2>Our friends are in WA. I have family that are

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 2>elderly and wouldn't be able to travel. However, we have

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 2>both brought up the subject with my fiance's parents and

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 2>mother in law and it didn't have a very good reaction,

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 2>which I knew would happen. How do I say that

0:33:57.760 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how long my elderly family met will

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 2>be with us, and I want them at my wedding

0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 2>as they mean so much to me. How do I

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 2>approach this topic and not seeing like I'm being a

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 2>bridezilla making us have our wedding east or do we

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:12.319
<v Speaker 2>just elope and have two parties, one in the East

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:13.360
<v Speaker 2>and one in the West.

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:15.880
<v Speaker 1>So is she saying that most of the family are

0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 1>on one side, but the oldies or on the other,

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:19.919
<v Speaker 1>so she wants the majority to travel for them?

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:20.719
<v Speaker 3>Is that what she's saying?

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:23.360
<v Speaker 2>What she's saying is is that her whole family is

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 2>on the East. Yeah, his whole family is in Wa

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:28.360
<v Speaker 2>and they live in Wa, and they've also got a

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 2>big friendship group that's in Wa.

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 1>So it makes slightly more sense to having Wa. But

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:32.719
<v Speaker 1>she wants it East.

0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:34.880
<v Speaker 2>But she wants it east because it would mean that

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:37.840
<v Speaker 2>her grandparents absolutely couldn't be there for if it was

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:40.280
<v Speaker 2>in Wa, just have it in the East.

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I think you can just have it in the East,

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 1>so your wedding it Also, picking the location doesn't make

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:46.760
<v Speaker 1>you a bridezilla.

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 3>It'd be different.

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:49.319
<v Speaker 1>I would say you're a bride dealer if you're like,

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 1>none of my family can afford to travel, they're all dying,

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 1>so I'm going to Italy.

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:54.320
<v Speaker 3>That's different.

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 1>But Slash, that's a bit more like I would be like.

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:00.800
<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the d it's only the

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 1>other side of Australia, and it sounds like there's almost

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 1>equal amounts of people that would have to travel either way.

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:08.920
<v Speaker 1>So you're just suiting the people that are really important

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 1>to you. At the end of the day. The people

0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 1>that are important to you obviously include your grandparents. You

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 1>want them there. If they are not there, you will

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 1>regret that for the rest of your life totally.

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 2>And let me say this, it is wild the amount

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.840
<v Speaker 2>of people that will come to your wedding who you

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 2>in ten years, fifteen years, twenty years, will will lose

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:30.960
<v Speaker 2>touch with. Like it's actually wild, funnily enough, like our

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 2>wedding video, I mean, like, like, who is that awkward?

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:36.360
<v Speaker 2>But like it's got Mitch and Hayden in it. So

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:38.759
<v Speaker 2>Mitch being our co host on the pickup, Hayden's his

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:40.839
<v Speaker 2>ex boyfriend. Haven't seen Hayden since they.

0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Broke up, never saw him before, literally.

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 3>Never saw him before.

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 2>So now I've got someone who I'm never going to

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:49.879
<v Speaker 2>see again in my wedding video. Also, the other person

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:52.719
<v Speaker 2>in my wedding video is Matt Sex girlfriend, who I

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 2>never see. So I've got two people in my wedding

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 2>video who I have not seen since my wedding. The

0:35:58.120 --> 0:35:59.719
<v Speaker 2>thing I want to reiterate about this Rea, why I'm

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 2>bringing this up is simply because it is more important

0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:04.400
<v Speaker 2>to have someone like your grandparents, who you are not

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 2>going to see much, who you don't.

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:06.920
<v Speaker 3>Get to see very often.

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 2>I would do anything to have had my grandfather at

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 2>my wedding, to have him walk me down the Aisle.

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 2>I would give anything for him to be there. It's

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:16.920
<v Speaker 2>not a Bridezilla review to make that decision. And also,

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:19.319
<v Speaker 2>if your mother in law father in law are going

0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 2>to react badly to it, just get your fiance to say, hey, Mom,

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:25.400
<v Speaker 2>you know Sarah, it's really important to her that grandparents

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 2>are there. They can't travel because they're a bit old,

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 2>and so we're going to have it in the East.

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:31.839
<v Speaker 1>You just made me realize that, Like.

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:36.720
<v Speaker 4>At my wedding, Nana Hockley, No, at my wedding, I'm

0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:38.399
<v Speaker 4>not going to know anyone, and Ben's not gonna know anyone.

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 1>We don't know each other's families.

0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:41.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, who are all these people? And he's gonna

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 3>be like, who are you?

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Like, we're going to be a lot of us, like

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:47.879
<v Speaker 1>extended friends and families. We've never met his best friend,

0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 1>his groomsman, I quote unquote no, because we FaceTime. I

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:53.319
<v Speaker 1>don't know him.

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:55.720
<v Speaker 2>Your wedding would be the best wedding to wedding crash

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 2>because you'd have no fucking idea if the person was.

0:36:58.400 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 1>Supposed to be there or not.

0:36:59.360 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Guys, it's in.

0:37:01.840 --> 0:37:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Come crash the wedding. Brittany's going to be like, that's

0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:05.160
<v Speaker 2>probably Ben's cousin.

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 3>She got no, it had a big camera.

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:11.239
<v Speaker 1>No. But one thing that I can relate to is

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:14.040
<v Speaker 1>and I am grappling with it a little bit at

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:16.279
<v Speaker 1>the moment because it's like new news to me. But

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:19.640
<v Speaker 1>my I only have one grandparent left, my Nana. And

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:22.360
<v Speaker 1>if you're a listener, you'll know that. A couple of

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:24.880
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, I went to Port mcquarie, to my hometown,

0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 1>and out of nowhere, she pulled all the rings off

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 1>her hand and she goes take these because in case

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:30.279
<v Speaker 1>I die. And I was like, well, Nana, like, you're

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:31.399
<v Speaker 1>not going to die down.

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 3>But then you.

0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Know she was going to come to the wedding overseas.

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:39.840
<v Speaker 1>And I sometimes forget how old she is because she's

0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 1>she has an age to me, you know, she's still

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 1>the same Nana as twenty years ago. But at the

0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, she's in a late eighties and

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:49.279
<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago, she's like, I don't think

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:51.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be able to calm makes me really sad.

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:53.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to cry, And I'm like, of course

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 1>you can come, and she's like, no, I don't think

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I can. Like I'm old I can travel that far.

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 1>And you know, she had a fall and broke all

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>these bones not that long ago, and she's like, I'm

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 1>in pain a lot of time. And then I just

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 1>think I have to accept now that she can't come.

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 1>And there's a part of me that was like, do

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:11.279
<v Speaker 1>I cancel my old wedding, like but I can't. But

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:14.320
<v Speaker 1>I think I'll have to have a little mini one here.

0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 1>But I feel what you feel when you say that,

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 1>like they're important to you. So I think you make

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 1>that decision absolutely, and your fiance should one hundred percent understand.

0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree.

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that this is not the benchmark of

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 2>what makes people bridezillas, that's for sure. And it's not

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:33.200
<v Speaker 2>like you're having people have destination weddings, like we said

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:35.560
<v Speaker 2>BRIT's gone to BALI like you have this destination.

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:35.600
<v Speaker 3>Am I.

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's in Italy. Maybe I've been trying to throw

0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:39.440
<v Speaker 1>you off the scent.

0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:42.200
<v Speaker 4>But I think you know, Western Australia to Sydney, Like, yeah,

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 4>it's a bit of a ball leg, but it's not

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:43.919
<v Speaker 4>that bad.

0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 2>It's not nice holiday, it's not Europe. People will come,

0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 2>don't worry about it.

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 1>And also it's a good way to read people out

0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:51.839
<v Speaker 1>and keep your numbers down because maybe they won't and

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:52.360
<v Speaker 1>that's fine.

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 3>Maybe your mother in law will decide it's too far.

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:56.720
<v Speaker 3>Sounds a good option, dude. Weddings are hard.

0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Fuck it Elope, alope with you non.

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 3>Heard in these? Okay?

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Question number three? Now, this one was in the Facebook group.

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:10.800
<v Speaker 2>If you're not a member, La Funker discussion group is

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:13.440
<v Speaker 2>where all the fun ship goes down. This was in

0:39:13.480 --> 0:39:16.239
<v Speaker 2>the discussion group and it was really popping off, and

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:18.240
<v Speaker 2>people asked if we could talk about it on the podcast,

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:18.799
<v Speaker 2>so we.

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 3>Uh, pop off. It was pumping off.

0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:23.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm in a tough it's also do with cheating, so

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:27.279
<v Speaker 2>there's you know, it's a flavor of the month. Unfortunately,

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 2>it's just something that so many people go through, right

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 2>flavor of life. I'm in a tough situation to need

0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 2>some advice. I overheard my partner talking about a night

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:38.320
<v Speaker 2>out where one of his co workers cheated on his partner,

0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 2>who is home with their six month old baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Dickhead.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel awful for the woman and want to tell her,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know her partner or her very well,

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 2>and my partner would be furious if he knew I

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 2>was eavesdropping. On top of that, if I say something,

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 2>it could put my partner in difficult positions. Since the

0:39:56.760 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 2>cheatah is connected to management, I can't shake the few

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 2>feeling that I need to do something, but I'm worried

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:04.840
<v Speaker 2>about the consequences for everyone involved.

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<v Speaker 3>What should I do? We did get some additional information

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 3>on this.

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<v Speaker 4>So the woman's partner who was having the conversation, he

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<v Speaker 4>works in five FO and he was very disturbed about

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:17.280
<v Speaker 4>this news when he heard that the coworker said he was cheating.

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, so he wasn't like high five and now I

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 1>good on your bro, Like, get that bussy?

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 3>Sorry? Is I how guys talk?

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:26.560
<v Speaker 1>That's how I picture them talking, John, because I hate

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 1>you talk. Do you call your friends? In my head,

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:36.239
<v Speaker 1>that's men. I also pictured her up against the wall

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 1>with a glass like eavesdropping, like trying to hear information.

0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:42.759
<v Speaker 1>This is tough, but not tough. Every part of me

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:46.080
<v Speaker 1>is like, yes, like girl's code, girl's code teller. But

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:48.600
<v Speaker 1>the truth of it is, I probably wouldn't. You don't

0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:50.839
<v Speaker 1>know them. I know it sucks you don't know them,

0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:54.799
<v Speaker 1>And it could directly if it's your partner's boss, it

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 1>could directly affect his work. Like, it's a pretty big thing.

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:00.200
<v Speaker 1>It'll be different if it was one of your best

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:02.279
<v Speaker 1>friends or a close friend, but if you literally don't

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:06.320
<v Speaker 1>know either of them, you overheard one half of a conversation,

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 1>not the other half. It's a pretty big thing to

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 1>go and explode someone's life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree, And look, even if you did choose

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:16.280
<v Speaker 2>to say something, you are not the one doing the exploding.

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:18.759
<v Speaker 2>But some people may feel differently to this, But I

0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:21.919
<v Speaker 2>do not believe that it is our job to hold

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:25.320
<v Speaker 2>up the moral compass for other peoples in their lives,

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:28.400
<v Speaker 2>in their relationships, especially people who we do not know.

0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:30.799
<v Speaker 2>If it's someone who you are very close with, if

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 2>it's someone who it directly affects you and you feel

0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:36.719
<v Speaker 2>as though you cannot live with yourself, that's a different situation.

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:39.480
<v Speaker 2>But I think in this instance, it is going to

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<v Speaker 2>bring so much drama into your life. And even though

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:46.040
<v Speaker 2>the best thing and the right thing might be to

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:49.000
<v Speaker 2>give the woman the information, the problem is is because

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:51.239
<v Speaker 2>you don't know her, you also aren't there to do

0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:54.680
<v Speaker 2>the aftercare. You're not there to ensure that she's okay.

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:57.480
<v Speaker 2>So you're dropping an absolute bomb in their life with

0:41:57.560 --> 0:41:59.919
<v Speaker 2>the information that you've found out, but you're not able

0:41:59.920 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 2>to actually be there to see the damage or to

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:04.879
<v Speaker 2>tend to what that does for that person. We don't

0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:07.160
<v Speaker 2>know what state she's in, we don't know anything about her.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't think I would be inviting this sort

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:12.680
<v Speaker 2>of drama, toxicity, the way in which it's going to

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 2>affect your relationship with your husband, the way in which

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:16.640
<v Speaker 2>it could affect him at work, into my life. I

0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 2>think that the risk for you far outweigh your responsibility

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:20.920
<v Speaker 2>in this situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I would not be able to not talk to my

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:25.319
<v Speaker 1>partner about it.

0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you have to talk to her.

0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:29.560
<v Speaker 1>I would be like, Sozzy, I overheard him say he

0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 1>was under the bed at the time of the conversation

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I heard about the pussat No, I would have to

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:39.960
<v Speaker 1>say that I could not keep it to myself and

0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 1>go about my day. And I think if he's your partner,

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:45.320
<v Speaker 1>he's not going to kick off that you accidentally overheard

0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:47.719
<v Speaker 1>a conversation unless it was in a really private place

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:50.480
<v Speaker 1>where you had to like sneak there, Like if it's

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:53.760
<v Speaker 1>in the men's change room at the gym, like, don't

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:54.799
<v Speaker 1>own up to that shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep take that.

0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 1>To the grape, I'd ask him about it, because you

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:00.480
<v Speaker 1>do only have one side of the story. He might

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:01.880
<v Speaker 1>have hung up the phone call and been on the

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:04.719
<v Speaker 1>phone to someone else you don't even know, Like there

0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:07.440
<v Speaker 1>are so many variables here. You haven't seen any proof.

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:09.960
<v Speaker 1>You've heard one side, and you don't know them, so

0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:13.760
<v Speaker 1>curiosity would get me and I would want to know more.

0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:16.000
<v Speaker 2>The other thing is is look, I mean, I know

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:18.480
<v Speaker 2>it comes with all good intention, but actually play this

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 2>out in your head. Right If I received a message

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 2>from someone who I have never heard from in my

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:28.080
<v Speaker 2>entire effing life and they said, hey, my husband works

0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 2>with your partner. I overheard him saying that he cheated

0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:35.120
<v Speaker 2>on you, like hope you're okay or whatever it is.

0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 2>And then I sat down with Matt and I said, hey, Matt,

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:41.279
<v Speaker 2>I've received this message from some person who I don't know,

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:43.560
<v Speaker 2>and they've accused you of cheating on me. And then

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Matt turns around and says, Laura, I would never I

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:47.480
<v Speaker 2>have no idea what they're talking about.

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:50.400
<v Speaker 3>She's crazy. Why is she trying to ruin our relationship?

0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I love you.

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<v Speaker 3>I would of course believe my husband.

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Because I have That puts a red flag in my brain.

0:43:56.160 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 3>It would put a red flag in my brain. But

0:43:57.640 --> 0:43:59.800
<v Speaker 3>I would question Mark one hundred percent. But it wouldn't

0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:01.640
<v Speaker 3>be an enough for me to leave him. It wouldn't

0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:03.880
<v Speaker 3>be enough. All it would do would be.

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:06.399
<v Speaker 4>It would create so much distress, but actually not enough

0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 4>distress for me to actually leave my husband, you know

0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:11.319
<v Speaker 4>what I mean. So it's like you're not there to

0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 4>give enough of the information or enough of the aftercare

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:16.360
<v Speaker 4>that I actually just think it's super damaging without having

0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:19.320
<v Speaker 4>like a good resolution to the problem and without actually

0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:21.960
<v Speaker 4>allowing that person to have all the bits of information

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:23.239
<v Speaker 4>that they need. I don't know, I just think it

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 4>causes way more problems that it needs to.

0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:27.799
<v Speaker 1>I agree. It also like puts some questions in my

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:30.960
<v Speaker 1>head about how many times we do get questions And

0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:33.800
<v Speaker 1>this is just a curiosity thing, like Laura and produce

0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 1>a key show. I don't know. You guys can chime

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<v Speaker 1>in on this. Are there things that happen that you

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 1>feel like you can't talk or ask your partner? Because

0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:47.560
<v Speaker 1>sometimes when I get these questions, it really takes me

0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:51.319
<v Speaker 1>by surprise because there's nothing that I wouldn't feel like

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I could talk to or ask Ben.

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<v Speaker 2>I think everyone's relationship's very different. I think there's lots

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 2>of people who have more privacy within their relationships or

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:04.120
<v Speaker 2>more ambiguity around things like finances or friendship groups. I

0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:08.240
<v Speaker 2>think that there's no rules and every relationship is pretty different.

0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:10.399
<v Speaker 1>No, of course, but I'm just asking what you how

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:12.399
<v Speaker 1>you guy, like if this was you and you had

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 1>accidentally overheard this conversation. I know, we joke about the

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:16.879
<v Speaker 1>men's locker room and stuff. It's obviously just you've walked

0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:19.239
<v Speaker 1>past the door or something. But would you feel like

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:21.480
<v Speaker 1>you could approach them about this and say, look, I

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 1>am sorry, but I overheard.

0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:24.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, absolutely I would too.

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:26.279
<v Speaker 4>But I think that we get different variations of this,

0:45:26.360 --> 0:45:29.320
<v Speaker 4>and it's usually where the person who needs to go

0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:32.800
<v Speaker 4>to their partner and talk about something has done something wrong,

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:35.280
<v Speaker 4>you know, even if it's like one percent. In comparison,

0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:37.480
<v Speaker 4>it's like when people go through their partner's phone and

0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:39.000
<v Speaker 4>they find out that they've been cheating on them, and

0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:40.759
<v Speaker 4>they're like, oh, but I feel bad about going through

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:43.560
<v Speaker 4>their phone, you know, because technically that's wrong too, totally.

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:46.480
<v Speaker 4>So I think it depends on how wrong the thing

0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 4>that you did is versus what you found out.

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:52.360
<v Speaker 2>And also we don't know how when you say is droppers,

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:53.640
<v Speaker 2>she might have gone through his phone, do you know,

0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:54.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like it could.

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Have been computer like joint iPad whatever. It was like

0:45:56.880 --> 0:45:58.799
<v Speaker 1>a forty five minute conversation, So you can't be like

0:45:58.800 --> 0:46:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I just walked past in her She could have recorded it,

0:46:01.760 --> 0:46:03.799
<v Speaker 1>and she's got to do it like a podcast. She's

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:05.319
<v Speaker 1>got like a cup of tea at the door. She's

0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:06.880
<v Speaker 1>like really sitting there settling in.

0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I get the feeling that it probably

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 2>was some situation where she's seen messages or something, do

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:13.560
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Like, I don't know, because

0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 2>if it was just overheard in passing.

0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:18.319
<v Speaker 1>Like no, I think she ever heard it.

0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 2>But the eavesdropping part is just so weird, Like how

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 2>were you eavesdropping?

0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:22.200
<v Speaker 3>Why?

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:24.640
<v Speaker 2>Like did your partner have often have conversations with colleagues

0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 2>that you're not allowed to hear, Like.

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:27.280
<v Speaker 3>That's weird in and of itself.

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:29.120
<v Speaker 4>No, maybe he was just on the phone and he

0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:30.960
<v Speaker 4>had it on speaker or something.

0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:33.760
<v Speaker 1>But then that's not eavesdropping if someone is if you lurk,

0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:38.439
<v Speaker 1>if you stop intentionally just to intentionally stop and listen,

0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:40.239
<v Speaker 1>like if he was on the duney and he was

0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:42.879
<v Speaker 1>taking a call and then you stopped, You walked past

0:46:42.920 --> 0:46:45.640
<v Speaker 1>and you heard, so you fucked her. I would stop too,

0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:46.719
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, oh, tell me more.

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:48.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, But you would also just say, hey, I was

0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:51.400
<v Speaker 4>walking past and I heard that. That's not eavesdropping. That is, like,

0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:53.879
<v Speaker 4>you know, there is more intent here that we don't

0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:56.920
<v Speaker 4>have the backstory for. Is what I'm saying, eavesdropping and

0:46:57.080 --> 0:46:59.799
<v Speaker 4>just accidentally hearing something like how were you eavesdropping?

0:46:59.840 --> 0:47:01.719
<v Speaker 2>And I agree with what Keisha said. It depends on

0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 2>what you've done wrong as to whether you feel comfortable

0:47:05.280 --> 0:47:07.840
<v Speaker 2>or not explaining that that's how you came across that information.

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:10.840
<v Speaker 3>Yes, so my advice is maybe lie about that.

0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Gaslight him, maybe turned down the volume on how you

0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:17.720
<v Speaker 1>found out and.

0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:20.480
<v Speaker 4>However you did. If you did actually just hear it

0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:22.680
<v Speaker 4>by walking past, you're pretty in the clear to just

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:25.040
<v Speaker 4>bring it up. If you found out through other means,

0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:27.359
<v Speaker 4>maybe you'll have to be a little more creative with

0:47:27.400 --> 0:47:28.839
<v Speaker 4>how you go about bringing it up.

0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:30.799
<v Speaker 2>But even so, I don't know if you need to

0:47:30.800 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 2>bring it up. I don't know if you need to.

0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:34.880
<v Speaker 3>I want to know. For me, I want to know.

0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:37.279
<v Speaker 1>I want to know the story. I want to not

0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:38.040
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent.

0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 3>I am pretty for the gossip. IDI.

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 4>I think in this situation, I would want to know

0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:45.120
<v Speaker 4>because I would want to get my partner's take on it.

0:47:45.160 --> 0:47:46.759
<v Speaker 4>You know, she already said that he was kind of

0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:50.359
<v Speaker 4>disturbed by the information. So exactly like you said at

0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:53.160
<v Speaker 4>the start, if I found out that this had happened

0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:55.120
<v Speaker 4>and I overheard a conversation, I would want to talk

0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:57.160
<v Speaker 4>to my partner about it and be like, hey, do

0:47:57.239 --> 0:47:59.880
<v Speaker 4>you feel the same about, you know, cheating when you

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:01.560
<v Speaker 4>have a six month or baby at home?

0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:04.120
<v Speaker 3>Like we need to get clear on where your values are.

0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:06.919
<v Speaker 1>I've had this conversation with Ben. I had actually think

0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:08.799
<v Speaker 1>I had overheard it too, but it wasn't like I

0:48:08.840 --> 0:48:10.800
<v Speaker 1>was in the same room right and I had overheard

0:48:10.800 --> 0:48:14.840
<v Speaker 1>that somebody that he knew's friend, basically a teammate a

0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:18.000
<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago, had cheated, and I wanted more

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:21.000
<v Speaker 1>information because I wanted to know what he thought about that.

0:48:21.400 --> 0:48:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, do all your teammates do that? Do all

0:48:23.680 --> 0:48:25.759
<v Speaker 1>your friends do that? Have you ever done that? How

0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:27.400
<v Speaker 1>do you feel about that? Do you think it's okay

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:30.520
<v Speaker 1>that they do that? And he was absolutely gave me

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:32.439
<v Speaker 1>the answer that I wanted, and it wasn't an answer

0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I wanted, it was the truth. He's like, fuck, no,

0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:36.759
<v Speaker 1>it's terrible. I would like, He's like, I don't encourage it.

0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:39.480
<v Speaker 1>If anyone ever talks about it in a locker room

0:48:39.600 --> 0:48:42.400
<v Speaker 1>or a training or whatever. He's like, I don't even contribute.

0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 1>But you know, cheating is out there. It happens. But

0:48:45.080 --> 0:48:46.920
<v Speaker 1>that's why I would want to be having the conversation.

0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:49.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I think in her particular situation, because he

0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:51.120
<v Speaker 4>does do FIFO, Like, I just feel like there's this

0:48:51.160 --> 0:48:55.080
<v Speaker 4>thing about FIFO where what happens on site stays on site.

0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:58.680
<v Speaker 4>You know, there's a real like bros culture around FIFO workers,

0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:00.480
<v Speaker 4>and I know a lot of them myself, and I'm

0:49:00.520 --> 0:49:03.680
<v Speaker 4>not saying that they're all like that, but I would even.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be careful with that because there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people who listen to this podcast who have

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<v Speaker 2>husbands or partners who are Fifaux workers and whose partners

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<v Speaker 2>are fucking great and so like, I don't like the

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<v Speaker 2>idea that people can be branded just in the same

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<v Speaker 2>way there's loads of professional sports athletes, there's lots of celebrities, Like.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to be careful because I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 4>I've just kind of realized it. The way I said

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<v Speaker 4>that could be really hurtful to people who either have

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<v Speaker 4>partners or are themselves Fifoux workers. I'm not implying that

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<v Speaker 4>you're all the same. What I mean by that is

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<v Speaker 4>that when you spend time in those environments, you're spending

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<v Speaker 4>like twelve to fourteen hour shifts with these people. You're

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<v Speaker 4>spending a lot of time around them, and I, as

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<v Speaker 4>a partner, would want to know what the culture of

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<v Speaker 4>those environments was like. That's why I would want to

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<v Speaker 4>have a conversation about it, not because I would be

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<v Speaker 4>accusing my partner of being exactly the same as this

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<v Speaker 4>person who's cheated on their part.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's obviously obviously jobs where you work away not

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<v Speaker 1>just five fox, but your periods away, doctors, pilots, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>like people that work overseas in business, It doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Present you with opportunities to cheat doesn't make you a cheater,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you have more of an opportunity to cheat if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in London for four weeks than you are if

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<v Speaker 1>you are living at home in a nine to five.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't mean you're a cheater, just as many people

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<v Speaker 1>cheat that are married and live with your partner, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>we do want to one hundred percent say that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, look, that is it from USK guys.

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<v Speaker 1>What we do want to say about the YouTube channel

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