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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda in the mornings. You know the song

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Speaker 1: we just played, I Get knocked down, but I Get

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Speaker 1: up again. Could be about our next guest. We all

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Speaker 1: know Deborah Hutton from Well. She's graced our magazine covers

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Speaker 1: for decades, she's been on our TV screens. She was

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Speaker 1: rushed in for surgery on a facial skin cancer that

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Speaker 1: she heard she'd found just in time. What a wake

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Speaker 1: up called deb?

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Speaker 2: Hello? Yes? Beaking your wake up called good morning? Yes?

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Speaker 3: When you were in here last you had a surgery,

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Speaker 3: this a few years ago now, and I remember you

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Speaker 3: had like the scar and the recent stitches and stuff,

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Speaker 3: and remember that and then years ago that was nine

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Speaker 3: years ago.

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Speaker 1: I can't beleive you go, well, what happened after that?

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Speaker 1: Deb What was your recent experience?

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Speaker 2: It was, sadly exactly the same. Look. I was sort

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Speaker 2: of fine. I get my skin checked all the time.

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Speaker 2: I'm there so twice a year and and my dermatologist

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Speaker 2: the spotted something which I couldn't see anything. She said, look,

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Speaker 2: they'd be better come back in about six months. I

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Speaker 2: just want to keep an eye on something. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: there's something here. And sure enough, six months later, I

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Speaker 2: went in and they went, yeah, we needed to do

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Speaker 2: a couple of biopsies, so made a couple. What do

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Speaker 2: you mean? I couldn't say things, So anyway, I went

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Speaker 2: in sure enough it was something that needed to needed

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Speaker 2: to come out. But there was two of them. But

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Speaker 2: the scary thing is just it wasn't sort of to

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Speaker 2: the naked eye, I couldn't really tell. There was a

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Speaker 2: little bump and it.

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Speaker 1: Was on your face, just below your nose.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, and Amanda, it was literally sort of the slightly

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Speaker 2: bigger version of the same surgery nine years ago, in

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Speaker 2: exactly the same spot. So you know, the thing about

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Speaker 2: it is you just we don't know. We you know,

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Speaker 2: we can't see. It's not always obvious that there is

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Speaker 2: a skin cancer there this placebook you can't see. But

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Speaker 2: it just it's such a warning sign. But such a

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Speaker 2: guy sort of paranoid about my skin anyway, but it

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Speaker 2: was such a warning fine for others, say, you know,

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Speaker 2: if you haven't get your skin check, if you think

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Speaker 2: you're fine, then don't believe it. You know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: just go in, just go and go get your skin checked.

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Speaker 3: Well, because of you, all those years ago, I get

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Speaker 3: mine checked regularly and it's but it is as scary

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Speaker 3: as you get old, because and all the damage is done.

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Speaker 3: When you were young in the seventies when no one

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Speaker 3: had sunblock reading, you got your sunburn on sunburn.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's it. Yeah, that's exactly right. And look, you

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Speaker 2: know when we were kids, and even even in the

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Speaker 2: twenties and in the thirties, I was still best sort

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Speaker 2: of doing it. So it's you know where it just

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Speaker 2: becomes a part of who we are. I mean, I've

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Speaker 2: just spent a couple of weeks doing this cream. Have

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Speaker 2: you had of afidex. It's a bit horrifying. Yeah, like

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Speaker 2: your cancer cream. You've got to put it on and

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Speaker 2: all this stuff comes up with your face, so it

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Speaker 2: targets all this cancerous and precancerous cells. And yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: not pretty, but what it does it shows you there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of stuff under the skin that you don't

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Speaker 2: even know that it's sitting there because.

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Speaker 1: You've got you ended up with quite a big scar,

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Speaker 1: which I saw the photo you posted when it first happened,

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Speaker 1: and obviously this is all fading now, but it was

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Speaker 1: pretty dramatic as someone who uses their faces their livelihood,

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Speaker 1: how confronting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. I did say to the surgeon, do

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Speaker 2: you think you should do one on the other side,

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Speaker 2: just to sort of make it look deliberate. It's another

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Speaker 2: way of having a facelip, right, just yeah. I mean

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Speaker 2: it was confronting, but you know, so is so is

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Speaker 2: the idea that you don't know how big the scar

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Speaker 2: is going to be. The most confronting is when you're

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Speaker 2: going in you're saying, you know, they just keep cutting

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Speaker 2: until they make sure they've got on the margin. So

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Speaker 2: there's no guarantee it's going to be a tiny thing.

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Speaker 3: So what happens with you? Now? What's the future thing?

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Speaker 2: Wear a bag over my head? Yeah, the two eyes

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Speaker 2: cut out. It's good cod. I'm very COVID safe.

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Speaker 3: I saw you working down a tucker Bag mascot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a new face.

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Speaker 3: Does tucker Bag even exists anymore?

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Speaker 2: But but you said, you don't know, let's bring them back.

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Speaker 3: Let's bring tucker Bag back. Come on, girl's got to eat.

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Speaker 1: You got this just in time. This is a wake

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Speaker 1: up all for us all dead.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it is. It isn't look I've been it's been extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: I've been overwhelmed by the amount of people that have

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Speaker 2: contacted me and just reached out and shared their stories

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Speaker 2: to me and sending me photos of similess scars and

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Speaker 2: things that have picked up since I started posting, letting

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Speaker 2: everyone that was going on. So that's seen. Brilliant, absolutely brilliant.

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Speaker 3: You've managed to make the scar look good, Deb, so

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Speaker 3: you've put it into fashion.

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Speaker 2: Listen, we're lucky. You know, we can just put the

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Speaker 2: spa fillar on there, sand it back. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, exactly, That's what makeup's for.

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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly. And I'm fine, I'm healing well.

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Speaker 3: I really please that you're on the men, and please

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Speaker 3: let's let's catch up before another nine years. I know

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Speaker 3: we saw it a few years ago at a Christmas

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Speaker 3: thing that was off the record, which was good and you.

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Speaker 2: Looked well, I know, let's just keep that off the record.

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Speaker 3: For more information, visit the Cancer Council website. Deb Hutton,

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Speaker 3: thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Oh gorgeous to talk to you guys, look after each other.

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Speaker 2: Good to hear you boys.

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Speaker 1: Thank you you too.

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Speaker 2: Deb.

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Speaker 3: Take it easy.

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Speaker 2: Joined the End of Man Down in the Morning one

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Speaker 2: at one point seven tell us