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Speaker 1: It consists of sixty nine of these two meter towers

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Speaker 1: It sounds beautiful, it's said amongst Kings Canyon as the background,

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Speaker 1: Tourism Central Australia, Daniel Rochford. Good morning, Daniel, Hey Katie helping.

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Speaker 1: Oh pretty good mate. How are you guys going in?

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Speaker 1: Alice Springs are in Central Australia at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Look, you know we're gearing up for a season ahead

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's what everybody's hoping for, particularly for

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Speaker 1: You've got that beautiful light display happening at Kings Canyon.

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Speaker 1: How's that going.

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Speaker 2: Look, I was really lucky to be there at the

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Speaker 2: it's I spent almost an hour just walking around the

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Speaker 1: On them and it is good to see that investment

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Speaker 1: You know, from the perspective of the crime and the

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Speaker 2: Look, I'd love to say, you know, I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: reality is it's not subsiding. In fact, you know, there

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Speaker 2: And you know, you and I have talked about this

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Speaker 1: Cyclone, Daniel, can you tell me with some of the

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Speaker 2: Look, ultimately we need to get on top of the

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Speaker 1: And Daniel, I've said it before but I'll say it again.

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Speaker 1: None of us want to be talking the territory down,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and you know I'm you know, you know I've

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Speaker 2: You know, we have been going to bed at night

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Speaker 2: the moment, and you know, we just need to get

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Speaker 2: off the dance floor, and that is in the hands

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Speaker 1: You're spot on. You're absolutely spot on. Daniel Rochford, CEO

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Speaker 1: of Tourism Central Australia. It's always good to catch up

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Speaker 1: with you. I really appreciate your time and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you again very soon.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, thank you,