WEBVTT - Should You Break Up With Your Partner?

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<v Speaker 1>Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life

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<v Speaker 1>on Cut. I'm Brittany and I'm Keisha. Feeling in for

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<v Speaker 1>Laura today, not for the best reason.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Monday here in the Life on Cut Studios

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<v Speaker 2>and the rest of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Funnily enough, but it's a public holiday today, but hilarious

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<v Speaker 1>and classic chaos of our team. We didn't realize it

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<v Speaker 1>was a public holiday until like last Friday. No, we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't realize.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we don't plan ahead, so we're like, looks like

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<v Speaker 2>we're all working on a public holiday except Laura.

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<v Speaker 1>So Laura is very, very unwell.

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<v Speaker 2>She has had what we think is food poisoning for

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<v Speaker 2>about twelve hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Could be gastro, could be gastro.

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<v Speaker 2>But from what she said and I saw her this morning,

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<v Speaker 2>like she facetimed me, she sent me photos. She's either

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get an oscar or she's roper unwell, like she's committing.

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<v Speaker 2>She's committing. She hasn't stopped vomiting. I think only vomiting.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's both ends, but like for

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<v Speaker 1>twelve hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have more details, but I don't feel the

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<v Speaker 2>need to tell you. I'm picturing Bridesmaids. You know that

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<v Speaker 2>scene where she's like running across the street.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, I'm dumb doing it. I'm shooting in the street.

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<v Speaker 2>But then we just had this realization in here the team,

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<v Speaker 2>we were like, hang on a minute, today's a popic holiday?

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<v Speaker 2>Is Laura doing one of those classic like she partied

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<v Speaker 2>too hard? She's not even sick, and she just wants

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<v Speaker 2>to call in sick from work, even though she's the

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<v Speaker 2>boss and she is work.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if she was an employee, I would be

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<v Speaker 1>more like, that's a possibility. But don't you think the

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<v Speaker 1>Gash show is like the number one excuse that people

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<v Speaker 1>turn to when they want a day off because you

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<v Speaker 1>don't really have to prove it, you know, like, no

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<v Speaker 1>employee is going to be like show me the like,

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<v Speaker 1>show me the proof that you actually have been vomiting

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<v Speaker 1>and shooting yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>If you could please collect the stool sample and drop

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<v Speaker 2>it off to work, put it in an uber delivery.

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon Laura will be the kind of person that

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<v Speaker 2>would like show us. She'd be like, no, look, look, look,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think that's why she sent me photos.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know why. It's almost like she thinks

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<v Speaker 1>she's like me. She sent me photos. I can show

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<v Speaker 1>you she's proper dying. I'll show you.

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<v Speaker 2>But she's also wearing and probably not the time to

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<v Speaker 2>make a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel the need to see this just who.

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<v Speaker 1>She shouldn't send.

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<v Speaker 2>Me a food photo, but she did send me a

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<v Speaker 2>photo herself and look, oh my god, don't show the

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<v Speaker 2>camera because she looks terrible of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the poor scene. And I said, at least you're

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<v Speaker 1>repping life on.

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<v Speaker 2>She's got our merch on. She's got her life on

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<v Speaker 2>cart merchandise on.

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<v Speaker 1>Wearing that white jumper when you're in that state is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty ballsy. I mean, I don't even wear white on

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<v Speaker 1>a regular day because I speel so much on myself,

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<v Speaker 1>but let alone when there's things coming out of my end.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anyway, so Laura is, Yeah, she's not on the

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<v Speaker 2>episode to day.

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<v Speaker 1>We hope she has a speedy recovery. She's back for Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>You had quite the glamorous weekend, mate, I was living

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<v Speaker 1>vicariously through you. I tell you, that looks like a dream. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So Ben and I went to Hamilton Island, which we

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<v Speaker 2>were to last year. So like we went exactly exactly

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<v Speaker 2>this time last year.

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<v Speaker 1>We fell in love.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not an ambassador for Hamilton Island, but I

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<v Speaker 2>should be, Like, I cannot recommend that place enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever been? Yeah, I went when I was

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<v Speaker 1>like sixteen years old. It's such a weig island that

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<v Speaker 1>is separate from everything else. And it's kind of because

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<v Speaker 1>you can't really drive cars there. You drive like little

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<v Speaker 1>golf buggies. Yeah, and it just feels like it's an

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<v Speaker 1>out of body experience the whole time you're there. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so beautiful. But I actually do remember I had and

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<v Speaker 1>it probably shouldn't be admit, I mean, fuck it ten

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<v Speaker 1>more than ten years ago, as Laura would claim, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a peanut coulata just before I went on this

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<v Speaker 1>thing called a sea turtle chase. But the water was

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<v Speaker 1>so warm, and I had a stinger suit on because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was like a couple months of the

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<v Speaker 1>year you gotta have stinger suits. And I was vomiting

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<v Speaker 1>in the water. But they loved it. The group loved

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<v Speaker 1>it because apparently it brings out more fish. Yeah, Keisha,

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<v Speaker 1>it'd also brings sharks. It's chum are the sharks there? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, there, we did see some sea turtles. It

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty magnificent the vomiting. We had an amazing weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, I cannot recommend enough if you were genuinely

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<v Speaker 2>looking for a holiday for like either it's the best

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<v Speaker 2>family place.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so easy to get around.

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<v Speaker 2>There's only only golf buggies, everything's closed, everything is made

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<v Speaker 2>to be easy. Like I actually said to Bed, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, this is the easiest place to holiday. It

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<v Speaker 2>was two and a half hours from Sydney. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>believe that we have a paradise so damn close and

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<v Speaker 2>we don't go more like anyway, irrelevant. So we had

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<v Speaker 2>like a pretty uneventful weekend. It was spectacular. I saw

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<v Speaker 2>so many lifers there. Shout out to one of our

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<v Speaker 2>lifers that's getting married this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>So she was at her friend's wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine getting married this weekend and the weekend before you

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<v Speaker 2>have to go to Hamilton, Washingtons that you have to.

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<v Speaker 2>But she was in Hamilton Island for another life's wedding,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, you're getting married in five days and

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<v Speaker 2>you're on a vacate, Like I would be freaking the

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<v Speaker 2>fuck out anyway, So we were going up the top

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<v Speaker 2>of this hill. And it's one of those things I

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<v Speaker 2>think when you're an Australian, like we grow up with

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you see whales, you see dolphins and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>all the time, but it never gets old, Like I always.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to stop anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel the same way with kangaroos, but I'm even

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<v Speaker 2>more extreme now that bends here. So every time we

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<v Speaker 2>see a kangaroo, wallaby or something, we have to stop.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, So we're going at the top of this

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<v Speaker 2>place on the island called One Tree Hill, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like where all the magic happens. It's where the magic

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<v Speaker 2>sunsets are. It's where people can get married up there.

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<v Speaker 2>There's engagements up there, like a lot of stuff happens

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<v Speaker 2>up it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there was business. Is that you what? It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of people get you opposed to this

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<v Speaker 1>spot right here.

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<v Speaker 2>Ben, I don't know that, Ben, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but this is apparently.

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<v Speaker 1>This is apparently an engagement spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows?

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<v Speaker 1>So weird a coincidence And there's so many photographers around

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<v Speaker 1>that would capture a moment. The lighting is divine. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like I've thought about it. It's not like plan

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<v Speaker 1>my here I am in my white dress every day

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<v Speaker 1>jesting case. No, got always gish. You have to prepare.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at them. What do the boy scouts say, always

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<v Speaker 1>very prepared? Is that a boy scout? Yeah? The boy

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<v Speaker 1>scouts say always reprepared. But I actually I remember you

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<v Speaker 1>guys talking about this, and it really changed my tune

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<v Speaker 1>on it, because if you are hopeful of that and

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<v Speaker 1>you're going on a holiday or actually, one of my

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<v Speaker 1>best friends right now is in Europe. She's been with

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<v Speaker 1>a boyfriend for ten years. Oh my god. Everyone keeps

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<v Speaker 1>saying that he's going to propose, that he's going to propose,

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I don't want you to have

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<v Speaker 1>this pressure because if he doesn't, you might be disappointed,

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<v Speaker 1>But also it can take away from you being like

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<v Speaker 1>there in the moment and just enjoying it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely like, I am joking.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes I get my nails done, and yes I take

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<v Speaker 2>out fits just in case.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll probably do that for the next five years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but when I'm there, I don't think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I genuinely like when I'm there, when I'm on every

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<v Speaker 2>romantic because there's no point and I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>know when it's going to happen like I want it

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<v Speaker 2>to be a surprise away.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not the point of my story. I'm sorry, kangaroos.

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<v Speaker 1>I did norail.

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<v Speaker 2>The point of my story was so funny. It does

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<v Speaker 2>have to do with someone else's wedding. But I was

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<v Speaker 2>so mortified. So we stop at the top of this

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<v Speaker 2>sunset hill and there's this little kangaroo and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, band, let's stop. And there was like

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<v Speaker 2>these beautiful big palm trees. So we swung our buggy

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<v Speaker 2>off to the side of the road and put the

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<v Speaker 2>buggy in and jumped out, and Ben and I were

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<v Speaker 2>doing like an entire photo shoot with this kangaroo, like

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<v Speaker 2>the sunset, the kangaroo, like posing, taking different turns, like

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<v Speaker 2>I was down trying to like get.

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<v Speaker 1>The shorter you angle.

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<v Speaker 2>I was. I was like, give me over here anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>going ham on this photo shoot. And then oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>hear this, excuse me, I'm sorry, but I think we've

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<v Speaker 2>waited long enough kind of thing. And I was like

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<v Speaker 2>what And I turned around and there was a lady

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<v Speaker 2>and like she's like, you need to move, and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm just trying to get a photo with

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<v Speaker 2>Skippy and she's like, you're in the middle of a

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<v Speaker 2>wedding shoe.

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<v Speaker 1>And I turn around and behind.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there were the part I actually want to die

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<v Speaker 2>for you, Tisha, an entire bridal party and the bride

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<v Speaker 2>and groom.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you not see that? Because because so phob.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we fanged the golf cart around because we had

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<v Speaker 2>to turn around to get Skippy, so he fanged it

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<v Speaker 2>around and got out one side. The entire bridle shit

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<v Speaker 2>was behind us, so we just didn't see it. And

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<v Speaker 2>the huge, big palm trees sort of blocked half of

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<v Speaker 2>them from my peripheral view.

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<v Speaker 1>So they've done.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking like four groomsmen, four bridesmaids, the bride and groom,

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<v Speaker 2>all their family, and we in the back.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm laying on the ground skimming in the back of their.

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<v Speaker 2>Fucking I would love to see it if they're listening

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<v Speaker 2>right now, I'd love to see if they got a

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<v Speaker 2>photo with me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, excuse me, it's my holiday tea.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine how long they spoke about you before

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<v Speaker 1>they came over. How many conversations they were probably like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I just give them five minute. It's like just even

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<v Speaker 1>a couple more minutes, they'll fuck off like they'll take it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know they're nearly done. Surely they've got the shop

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<v Speaker 1>by now, they.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably got We're just gonna get one short Brittany Hockley,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you take a hundred just to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>you've got.

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<v Speaker 1>The good one. Especially when you're working with animals, gets

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<v Speaker 1>it gets so much worse. I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry. I was like, let me quickly move.

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<v Speaker 2>So I gather all my stuff up and Ben's like, babe,

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<v Speaker 2>you move, and he ran back across the road because

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<v Speaker 2>his arms will falling out of the camera and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I was doing the shoot, even though Ben's the

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<v Speaker 2>one that doesn't know what a kangaroo is. So I'd

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<v Speaker 2>get into the golf buggy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a cop midty skit.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like everything's silent and the whole wedding party is

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<v Speaker 2>looking at me. And I don't know if you guys

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<v Speaker 2>have been on a golf buggy. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>this is all golf buggies, but on Hamilton Island there's

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<v Speaker 2>no power steering and.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd gone off road. You have to put into reverse

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<v Speaker 1>kei shirt and the whole time it reverses. It has

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<v Speaker 1>this high pitch. So I'm like, the whole party's looking

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<v Speaker 1>at me, and I'm like.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to like power unpower, searing it out, reverse it

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<v Speaker 2>and then you stop and you have to then go

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<v Speaker 2>put it, push the buttons into no, not gear, just forward,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I have to be like bye. And then

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<v Speaker 2>it was so you can only go twenty kilometers, so

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't even quickly get out of it. I had

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<v Speaker 2>to scoop past them at twenty kilometers. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>a happy wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>I am dying for you. But I wonder I was

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<v Speaker 1>so embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised you made eye contact with them, because I

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<v Speaker 2>would to look.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no where some said boulevard.

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<v Speaker 2>I do wonder like we left and were mortified, but

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, we're like, oh, surely

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<v Speaker 2>they had a chuckle.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like we ruined their wedding. But I just

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<v Speaker 1>wonder how many people have, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Have done that, Like how many of people listening right

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<v Speaker 2>now have photos where someone has photo bombs. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>is it like a proposal or a wedding or someone's

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<v Speaker 2>ruined a photo like I would love to know because

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to also see the evidence and if this

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<v Speaker 2>if the person listening got any photos, we mean skipping

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<v Speaker 2>in the background, because I still didn't get the shot.

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<v Speaker 1>So so if you're professional photography mine, actually, can you

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<v Speaker 1>slide in with it please? Because of all of the

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds that I getting, get one that's usable. It kind

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<v Speaker 1>of reminds me. I've seen a couple of videos on

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<v Speaker 1>the internet of peaking on the internet. How old am I?

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<v Speaker 1>Where they've gone? Like, you know, someone set up the

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<v Speaker 1>camera to film the proposal and it can just be

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<v Speaker 1>the two of them. There's this one that went super viral.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure a lot of people saw it. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>this couple and they've got a golden a triever and

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<v Speaker 1>they're on the beach.

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<v Speaker 2>And he has set the camera up to film the proposal.

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<v Speaker 1>Against the zoomies is like cutting in and out and

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<v Speaker 1>it just full full zoomies. It's so funny. I would

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<v Speaker 1>love to see if any of you guys have like

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<v Speaker 1>a failed proposal video or something where like the camera's

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<v Speaker 1>fallen over or something. Gosh, it brings me so much

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<v Speaker 1>to you.

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<v Speaker 2>There's the only other one that I know I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>laugh at, but I do, and I know you would

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<v Speaker 2>have seen it. It's when a friend is filming supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be filming the proposal, a right distract. No, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that happens too, But there's a lady and she's supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be filming the proposal, but then someone else is

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<v Speaker 2>filming her film the proposal from a distance, so someone's

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<v Speaker 2>just doing a long shot and right as he's about

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<v Speaker 2>to get down on one knee, she trips over and

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<v Speaker 2>falls on her back, and it's totally funny because she

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<v Speaker 2>isn't hurt. It's just the timing is impeccable. You see

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<v Speaker 2>him go down in her full back, and the whole

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<v Speaker 2>video is just of the sky and she's tumbling around

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get up.

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<v Speaker 1>She misses meeting. I feel as though if Ben was

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<v Speaker 1>to ask me, like I am the most unreliable to

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<v Speaker 1>do things like that, because I just know that I'm clumsy,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I get distracted really easily. John, if

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<v Speaker 1>Ben actually wants to propose to brit and wants full

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<v Speaker 1>camera foot each other, you have to do it because

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<v Speaker 1>I can't be trusted. Yeah, definitely, don't let keep Please

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<v Speaker 1>send that cameras. Agay.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like Oh my god, Gus's an island.

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<v Speaker 1>Lighting the four different carrying ring lights everywhere. I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>could you just get a higher and I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>double chin. Yeah, we want to go from top down toptown.

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<v Speaker 1>So we wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk today about low and behold relationships. This came off

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<v Speaker 2>the back of a bunch of questions we get from

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<v Speaker 2>you guys. It's actually such a common question. How do

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<v Speaker 2>I know if they're the one? How do I know

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<v Speaker 2>if I need to leave? It's a really confusing time,

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<v Speaker 2>a time that I have gone through myself multiple times,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think many people do, right. And then we

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<v Speaker 2>saw this article about should you break up with your partner?

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<v Speaker 2>Nine signs to end a relationship, and it's been put

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<v Speaker 2>together so well a bunch of experts, philosophers, clinical psychotherapists,

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of.

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<v Speaker 1>Different people that know more than we know.

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<v Speaker 2>So we were like, maybe now is the time to

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<v Speaker 2>have this discussion and break it down. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think and I don't know whether there was

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<v Speaker 1>this was actually a research study. I read it quite

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<v Speaker 1>a long time ago. I don't know if it was

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<v Speaker 1>a theory or if it was actually a study, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think the notion of what they were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>really holds up. And it's the idea that something has

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<v Speaker 1>to be bad enough, like the pain of what you're

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<v Speaker 1>experiencing has to be bad enough for you to do

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<v Speaker 1>something about it, to change it. And I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the time, when you're talking about long term relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>that tipping point is actually really hard to determine. It's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things where it's like, if they had

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<v Speaker 1>have done something catastrophically bad. Let's say that they completely

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<v Speaker 1>betrayed your trust, they cheated on you, they spent all

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<v Speaker 1>of your money without telling you, Like if there was

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<v Speaker 1>some big betrayal, that's a really obvious thing that you're

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<v Speaker 1>like grounds to break up. It's very clear, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>this relationship shouldn't continue, But I actually think that for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of us that doesn't exist. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>it can exist in this gray zone where you're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sea sawing on whether the relationship is worth continuing in.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I really thought this list was great because

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<v Speaker 1>if you're able to kind of answer each of these questions,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think all of them will be yes

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<v Speaker 1>or no, like I think some of them you might

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<v Speaker 1>kind of flip flop on. But it might give you

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<v Speaker 1>a bit more of an idea as to a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a scale as to where you're sitting within your

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<v Speaker 1>own relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not to apply any further external pressure, but when

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<v Speaker 2>you think about it, who you choose to spend the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of your life with is the biggest decision that

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<v Speaker 2>you will make in your life. It's bigger than where

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to move. It's bigger than what job you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do if you're going to have kids, Like, the

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<v Speaker 2>partner that you choose is going to have such an

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<v Speaker 2>impact on you financially, emotionally, literally is going to change

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<v Speaker 2>the path of your entire existence. And I know that

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like a lot of pressure, but it's true. So

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<v Speaker 2>there is a reason that we do feel like this.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a reason that we sit and say, are

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<v Speaker 2>they the one?

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to go through the list of the

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<v Speaker 1>nine signs that you should consider ending your relationship, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there's some of you right now who are kind

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<v Speaker 1>of listening along with a pen and paper and going proocon.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first one that they listed is that you're

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<v Speaker 1>consistently unhappy. And I think the key word there is consistently,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean it's unrealistic to think that it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be sunshina and rainbows all the time. That's just

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<v Speaker 1>not it's not a realistic pressure to put onto your relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think if you're consistently feeling like you're drained,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're exhausted from your partner, that there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of conflict that causes awkwardness or tension within your life.

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<v Speaker 1>That to me would be a pretty clear indicator that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe things are not headed in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's also really important to differentiate what you're

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<v Speaker 2>unhappy about. So you might be really unhappy with your

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<v Speaker 2>life at the moment, but that's not necessarily all down

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<v Speaker 2>to your partner. Maybe there are other things going on

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<v Speaker 2>in your life, your friendship circles, or your work or

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<v Speaker 2>where you live, finances are stressful, There might be a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of other things that are contributing to your unhappiness.

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<v Speaker 2>So before you say, hey, yeah, I'm really unhappy I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to abort mission with my partner, you need to

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<v Speaker 2>work out what it is and how I guess a

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<v Speaker 2>percentage in your head of what you think is coming

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<v Speaker 2>from your partner.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's interesting though, when you consider that

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<v Speaker 1>with someone that you are in love with and that

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<v Speaker 1>is really supportive everything else in your life is shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say you've lost your job, Let's say you know

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<v Speaker 1>someone in your family's sick, or like if there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things that would be causing you to be

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<v Speaker 1>unhappy for very valid reasons. I think if you are

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<v Speaker 1>feeling as though your partner is adding to that unhappiness

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<v Speaker 1>during those times like that, to me is a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a magnifying glass on your relationship, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>do I feel better and more supported from my partner

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<v Speaker 1>at this time, or are they actually making the situation worse.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're with a person who's a good person, you

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<v Speaker 1>would assume that even though these other things are happening

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<v Speaker 1>around you and you know, kind of out of your control,

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<v Speaker 1>that they should make you feel more supported. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Number two, the emotional connection isn't there anymore. I think

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<v Speaker 2>this is a big one. I think this is for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's going to be different, right how you enter a

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<v Speaker 2>relationship and what you need from the relationship. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely need that connection because I know physicality and

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<v Speaker 2>the sex and the chemistry it will change and fade,

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<v Speaker 2>But what can remain consistent is that connection, I would

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<v Speaker 2>say for most women, and I'd say it's probably I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want a blanket statement. I don't know what you think, Kisha,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think it's probably more important for women than men.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think stereotypically that would be the case. We're

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<v Speaker 1>deeper connectors. I read this in doc Ali Walker's book.

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<v Speaker 1>She's been on the podcast twice. I think she's absolutely wonderful,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is more common for women to want that

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<v Speaker 1>more intense connection.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like when you're in a heterosexual relationship, right if

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<v Speaker 2>the man cheats, the woman says, well, do you love her?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have feelings for her? They want to know

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<v Speaker 2>about the emotional connection. If the woman is unfaithful, the

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<v Speaker 2>man is like, how many times did you sleep with him?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's very physically based, and with women, the

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<v Speaker 2>first thing is that emotional connection.

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<v Speaker 1>We're more worried or.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more impactful for us if it's emotional cheating than

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<v Speaker 2>it is physical cheating. And I think that comes down

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<v Speaker 2>to having that emotional connection.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, there's a lot of complexity as to the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>is why that might be the case, but I do

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<v Speaker 1>think that, yeah, there could be that difference. The third

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<v Speaker 1>one that they listed is that you have different core values.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of relates to what you and Laura spoke about.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was two weeks ago on the Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>episode where you talked about whether you can have a

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<v Speaker 1>difference of opinion with certain values in your life and

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<v Speaker 1>whether that be political, whether it be religious, whether it

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<v Speaker 1>be moral. And I also think that something that is

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<v Speaker 1>really hard is that when you're in a long term relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes people's core values can change.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>We often hear about the fact that when someone entered

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship they wanted to have children. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>decision that they made, and then, for whatever reason it

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<v Speaker 1>might be, they may have grown into being a person

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<v Speaker 1>who wanted to remain child free. And that is a

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<v Speaker 1>really common story that we hear about why people break down.

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<v Speaker 1>But I actually experienced this with my own parents. My

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<v Speaker 1>dad became very very religious. They've been together for I

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<v Speaker 1>think about oh fifteen, twenty years by this point. They

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<v Speaker 1>got together when they were in high school, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a big change.

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<v Speaker 2>I've spent twenty years with someone where your values align

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<v Speaker 2>and then.

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<v Speaker 1>It changes absolutely. And I think that him going down

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<v Speaker 1>a path of quite is it quite an extreme person

0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:05.080
<v Speaker 1>as well, so he went down a very religious path

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<v Speaker 1>Ziri to or a Hundi, Yeah, and my mum went

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<v Speaker 1>the other way. For me, I actually witnessed this in action.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of saw that this difference in core values

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<v Speaker 1>and the way that they wanted to live their life

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<v Speaker 1>was probably, in my opinion, it was the biggest factor

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<v Speaker 1>that caused them to break up. There were obviously other

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<v Speaker 1>things as well, but I don't know. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's very difficult for people to have different

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<v Speaker 1>religious and political beliefs or even moral values in a

0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:34.840
<v Speaker 1>relationship if they're quite involved with those beliefs, is what

0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I would say. We got a message after you guys

0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:39.040
<v Speaker 1>spoke about that on the podcast from this lovely lady

0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:44.240
<v Speaker 1>who she was Christian and her partner was agnostic or atheist.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember, but essentially I kind of asked a

0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:49.159
<v Speaker 1>couple more follow up questions because they had children, and

0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, can I just ask, like, it's more

0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:54.560
<v Speaker 1>so for my own curiosity, how do you navigate those

0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:57.719
<v Speaker 1>types of situations, whether you want to bring your children

0:20:57.760 --> 0:20:59.840
<v Speaker 1>to church, whether you want to get them christened? Like

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<v Speaker 1>how does that go? And she essentially wrote back and said,

0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I hope she doesn't mind me sharing this. I mean,

0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:08.960
<v Speaker 1>she's an anonymous associate, probably right. But she said that

0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:12.000
<v Speaker 1>her partner was really sorry, her husband was really supportive

0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:14.680
<v Speaker 1>of them, as long as by the time the children

0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:17.600
<v Speaker 1>were able to make a decision for themselves about whether

0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:20.440
<v Speaker 1>they wanted to be religious or not, that she respected

0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:23.000
<v Speaker 1>their own individual choice. Yeah, and I thought that was

0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:26.200
<v Speaker 1>a really happy medium. I don't know whether I would

0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:28.199
<v Speaker 1>be able to do that. I don't know whether I

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<v Speaker 1>would be able to have a different religion to my

0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:34.000
<v Speaker 1>partner because I have seen it go so wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's going to come down to every

0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:39.560
<v Speaker 2>individual relationship. I think I shared on that episode. Maybe

0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:41.160
<v Speaker 2>I was in a relationship with someone for a few

0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:44.680
<v Speaker 2>years there was Muslim religion. To me, isn't a deterrent

0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:49.040
<v Speaker 2>for relationships if you have different religious beliefs. It's only

0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:51.879
<v Speaker 2>a deterrent if they're extreme, like you just said. So,

0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:55.720
<v Speaker 2>I think many people can have wonderfully successful relationships with

0:21:55.720 --> 0:21:58.800
<v Speaker 2>different beliefs if their beliefs are not being imposed on

0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:00.800
<v Speaker 2>the other person. So, if somebody wants to believe whatever

0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:02.399
<v Speaker 2>they believe, if they want to go to church and

0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:04.480
<v Speaker 2>do that. But if they're not trying to force you

0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:06.560
<v Speaker 2>into a belief that you don't have, I think you

0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:10.120
<v Speaker 2>can have very successful relationships. The next few I think

0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:12.639
<v Speaker 2>are pretty self explanatory. So we've got the core values,

0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:15.760
<v Speaker 2>which I think is very obvious. Lack of trust, feeling

0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:18.439
<v Speaker 2>underappreciated or negatively.

0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Judged in the relationship. I think that speaks for itself.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't trust your partner, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be rude, but why you're with them?

0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:25.000
<v Speaker 1>That's what I would say.

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<v Speaker 2>If I didn't trust my partner, I wouldn't be in

0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:30.240
<v Speaker 2>the relationship one hundred percent. For me, trust is probably

0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:34.720
<v Speaker 2>the most fundamental aspect or building block in a relationship,

0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:39.159
<v Speaker 2>especially in my situation now long distance. Ben could be

0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:41.240
<v Speaker 2>doing whatever the hell he wants and I would I

0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:46.359
<v Speaker 2>would genuinely asleep and I fucking sleep. Wait, you should

0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:49.239
<v Speaker 2>see us training sex taxt days because one of us

0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:50.840
<v Speaker 2>wakes up when this goes to bed.

0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:53.359
<v Speaker 1>It's also so funny because like, you're in a different

0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:58.840
<v Speaker 1>mood when you're going to sleep, and.

0:22:56.760 --> 0:22:59.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, baby, tell me more. Twelve hours later,

0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:03.080
<v Speaker 2>he's still there. That's the moment that's so hot. You're like,

0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:04.040
<v Speaker 2>it's not hot anymore.

0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:04.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you.

0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Don't trust someone, you can't have a relationship like it. Ben,

0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:09.720
<v Speaker 2>I could too, Like we could be both doing whatever

0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:12.360
<v Speaker 2>we wanted and our partner could probably never know. So

0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:14.520
<v Speaker 2>if you don't have trust, well you can't.

0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Have a relationship. But I do think that trust is

0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:18.680
<v Speaker 1>one of those things that exists on a scale of gray,

0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:21.320
<v Speaker 1>and I think it can ebb and flow, and especially

0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:24.440
<v Speaker 1>in long term relationships, like I don't think it's common

0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:28.160
<v Speaker 1>unless there has been a betrayal, that you trust your

0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:31.960
<v Speaker 1>partner entirely up until one day and then all of

0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:34.200
<v Speaker 1>a sudden you don't unless there's a reason.

0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:37.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, one thing I was so shocked about. I'm

0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:39.360
<v Speaker 2>not gonna like judge anyone that does this. I wouldn't

0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:41.919
<v Speaker 2>do this, but I could not believe how many people,

0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 2>when I polled them, said that they would do it.

0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:46.560
<v Speaker 2>So maybe a month ago, I don't know, but we

0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:50.200
<v Speaker 2>had an ask guncut question about one couple. One man

0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:52.000
<v Speaker 2>in the relationship was trying to have an affair with

0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Speaker 2>a friend of the couple. Oh yeah, yeah, and then

0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:57.119
<v Speaker 2>so he had hit up the other woman in their

0:23:57.160 --> 0:23:59.320
<v Speaker 2>friendship circle. So the other friend had.

0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Said no, no way.

0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Then the man that had hit him up and said no, no,

0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:05.439
<v Speaker 2>it was a joke. I didn't mean him, And so

0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:10.120
<v Speaker 2>that wife in the relationship she ended up saying, hey,

0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:11.760
<v Speaker 2>look I know that he did that.

0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:13.800
<v Speaker 1>It's fine, in on the joke. I was in on

0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:15.400
<v Speaker 1>the joke. You don't need to make a big deal

0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:15.920
<v Speaker 1>about it.

0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:18.040
<v Speaker 2>So so many this didn't even cross my mind, but

0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:21.399
<v Speaker 2>so many lifers, so many of you guys had written

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:26.280
<v Speaker 2>to me saying it was probably the wife feeling insecure

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:29.560
<v Speaker 2>in the relationship, pretending to be the husband to hit

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:31.480
<v Speaker 2>her up to see what would happen. And I was like,

0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:34.520
<v Speaker 2>no way that would happen, Like, no way you would

0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:37.120
<v Speaker 2>be in a relationship that insecure and make a fake

0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:39.520
<v Speaker 2>account to see if somebody would take the bait.

0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:40.760
<v Speaker 1>I was really shocked at that.

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:43.560
<v Speaker 2>So I put the poll up on Instagram saying, how

0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 2>many of you think that or would do this or

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 2>have done this? How many of you pretended to be

0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 2>another account to see if your partner or someone is cheating?

0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:52.240
<v Speaker 1>And I couldn't believe that.

0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:54.080
<v Speaker 2>It was like eighty percent of people said that they

0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 2>would do it or had done that in the past. Yeah, well,

0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:59.760
<v Speaker 2>for me, that was really shocking because I thought, wow,

0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:03.199
<v Speaker 2>like if I felt that insecure or felt that my

0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:05.920
<v Speaker 2>partner was cheating on me, And I was like, if

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:08.159
<v Speaker 2>you are creating another account to try and catch your

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:10.800
<v Speaker 2>partner out, you're pretty sure though they're doing something wrong.

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:13.080
<v Speaker 2>So I would personally be going to have that conversation

0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 2>with my partner. I get that people need to catch

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:17.000
<v Speaker 2>them out because at the end of the day, you

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:18.639
<v Speaker 2>say you're cheating on me, he's gonna say.

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:21.040
<v Speaker 1>No, and you're like, oh, cool. Yeah. I also have

0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 1>like a deep empathy for anyone who's in that situation

0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 1>because I've been in relationships where I've if that was

0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:29.560
<v Speaker 1>presented as an option to me, I would have taken it,

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 1>but it was because I was in a bad relationship

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 1>where like I didn't trust him and the truth was

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:37.240
<v Speaker 1>he was on me, Like yeah, And so I think

0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 1>when you're in that it can be so murky and

0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:42.479
<v Speaker 1>you can be so overwhelmed with like the possibility of

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:45.959
<v Speaker 1>what they're doing that you just want the proof that

0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:50.199
<v Speaker 1>you want the definitive. Even though this information really hurts me,

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 1>at least I have more information, like it does give

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 1>you clarity in those situations. I do completely agree with you,

0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:59.480
<v Speaker 1>and I look back on those situations now and I'm like, wow,

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:02.119
<v Speaker 1>I actually can't believe I got to that point. I

0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 1>can't believe I let my standards drop. But it was

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:07.240
<v Speaker 1>such a gradual thing. And that's what I mean about

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 1>the trust thing. When I went into that relationship, I

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:12.359
<v Speaker 1>trusted him because why wouldn't you, you know, like, and

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 1>it was such a the frog in the pot kind

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 1>of analogy, you know that we talk about if you

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:18.440
<v Speaker 1>throw a frog in boiling water, if you jump out,

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 1>but if you put a frog in warm water and

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:24.200
<v Speaker 1>then turn it up so it boils, it will die.

0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:26.639
<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of how I think about those types

0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:30.359
<v Speaker 1>of relationships is because you don't you don't realize that

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 1>your standards are gradually dropping, and you don't realize that

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:35.760
<v Speaker 1>you've become this person who wants to catch their boyfriend cheating,

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:38.360
<v Speaker 1>because then at least you'll know, Like, but it happens.

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 1>It fucking happens, And it happened to me, you know,

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:43.520
<v Speaker 1>And I thought I was like, way more confident in

0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:46.000
<v Speaker 1>myself and way more assured that I would never let

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:46.959
<v Speaker 1>someone treat me like that.

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 2>But you probably are. You probably were when you entered

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 2>the relationship. But it's a Grooming's the wrong word. It's

0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 2>like a slow burn, like they wear you down.

0:26:57.240 --> 0:26:59.280
<v Speaker 1>It's a manipulation. Yeah, it's a manipulation.

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:01.960
<v Speaker 2>They make you feel like you would do anything to

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:04.359
<v Speaker 2>stay in that relationship and that they can do the

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:05.440
<v Speaker 2>wrong thing and you'll stay there.

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely. Well the next one is, like you said,

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:12.920
<v Speaker 1>feeling underappreciated in the relationship. I feel as though this

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 1>would be one of the biggest reasons that women in

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:21.160
<v Speaker 1>particular leave marriages, the gradual not feeling appreciated for everything

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 1>that you do to keep a home, to look after children,

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>to raise them, the sacrifices that you make. It's the

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:30.200
<v Speaker 1>zero point one percents that start to add up over time,

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:32.360
<v Speaker 1>and you get to this point where you just realize

0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:35.359
<v Speaker 1>that you feel so underappreciated for every single sacrifice that

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 1>you've made that you don't want to be in the

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 1>relationship anymore. Yeah.

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 2>And I think this is a hard one for us

0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:43.440
<v Speaker 2>to comment on in terms of families and children because

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 2>we don't have children, But one hundred percent people can

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:49.199
<v Speaker 2>feel unappreciated in relationships without kids. But I feel like

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:52.679
<v Speaker 2>the driving factor here is families, because the workload with

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 2>kids doesn't stop, and I feel like a lot of

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 2>that load in most relationships falls on the woman.

0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I'd be really interested to ask people in sid sex

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:04.639
<v Speaker 1>relationships what the dynamic is in your relationship with this

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:08.440
<v Speaker 1>type of thing, because I think often one partner always

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 1>carries more of the mental load in the relationship. It's

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 1>the person who knows that it's been night. It's the

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 1>person who knows that the dishwasher needs to be put on.

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 1>It's the one who knows when the milk is getting

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 1>low in the fridge and you've got to go and

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 1>get some more. It's like the toilet paper person. You know,

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 1>there's always one person in the relationship that carries that

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:28.159
<v Speaker 1>shit in the back of their minds. I hope it

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 1>wants breaking up over toil about honestly, though, I genuinely

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:35.400
<v Speaker 1>would understand it. I would understand that if you had

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 1>carried the entire mental load of your relationship for years

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 1>and years and years.

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 2>If you have metaphorically wiped his air the last ten years,

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 2>if you've made sure that they can wipe their ass

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 2>for ten years and they have never once.

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Thought about the fact you're going to run out of

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>toilet paper, Like, I get that. I actually think that

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 1>would be one of the things that would make me break.

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:58.720
<v Speaker 2>To be honest, this morning I had this thought, it's

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 2>so stupid, but because Better and I only spend like

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 2>two months together max at a time. But this morning

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 2>I realized we're learning some of our like the living

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 2>characteristics trait.

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 1>It's not a good time.

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 2>This morning I went to the bathroom and I was like,

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 2>why would you if you run out of toilet paper? No,

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:18.560
<v Speaker 2>replace it, No, it's the empty one stays on there

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 2>on the toilet hole.

0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 1>But then a new role is on the ground.

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, so you've at least you've replaced it,

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 2>or maybe I don't know, maybe I brought it in

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 2>for him, I don't know, but he's replaced it enough

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 2>that it's in there, but just can't take the empty

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 2>role off.

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, why that would send me? For Karen, Yes,

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 1>for Karen number six.

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 2>You consistently fantasize about a different life or different partners. Now,

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 2>I think this is a bit of like a double

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 2>edged sword, and I don't think this is a defining

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 2>factor for a breakup necessarily. I'm believe it or not,

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm going against the PhD in the doctor's here. I

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 2>think it's really common to fantasize about a different life

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 2>sometimes or the whole idea of the grass is always greener.

0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Imagine if I didn't have kids and I was in

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Europe with my friends like everyone else right now, you know.

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 2>Imagine if I hadn't been having sex with the same

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 2>person for the last ten years and I was out

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 2>having a one night stand, like it is so normal

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 2>to have those thoughts in a relationship. The question here

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:14.719
<v Speaker 2>is are you still giving yourself to your relationship or

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 2>have you completely checked out? Like are you all day

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 2>fantasizing about something else? And your partner doesn't come into

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 2>the equation anymore at all.

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Because these little.

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Thoughts of like what ifs are natural human thoughts. They're

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 2>completely normal for you to go through life and be like, Oh,

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 2>imagine if I didn't get married ten years ago, Imagine

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have twenty five kids, Like that's completely standard.

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 2>But if you are just like fucking chatting Tatum in

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 2>your head every single night and you haven't slept with

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 2>your partner in a year, there might be bigger issues.

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Jillian Treki is an expert that you guys spokes on

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 1>the podcast specifically about this, and I reishally liked that.

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll put it in the show notes, so if you

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 1>guys want to listen. It was a really really good episode.

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 1>I loved that one. I remember talking, you guys talking

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 1>with her about is it normal to have sex streams

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 1>about other people? She was like, of course it is, yeah,

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 1>And I remember feeling a bit of relief. So I've

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 1>had sex dreams about people that I'm like, why are

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 1>you not even have any things with that person before?

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 1>And I don't necessarily want to. Even if you whisper

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>on this podcast, they can still hear you. She's she's

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 1>got her mouth, her hand up to a mass. He goes,

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I've had sex dreams with others. It's so strange to me,

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.479
<v Speaker 1>Like there are people that there's actually one in particular

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 1>that I went to primary school with on my days.

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 1>I hope no one that I went to school with

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>listenance to this. It is so strange to me because

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I've had sex dreams about him before, and I'm like,

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 1>I've never slept with him. I don't think about him

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 1>that way right now, Like, what is this weird subconscious

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 1>thing that's going on, and I felt a huge amount

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 1>of relief of her being like, no, I don't worry,

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty, it's relatively normal. It's I think again, this

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 1>word consistently that they've put in the list is the

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 1>big thing. It's like whether you're kind of completely checked

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 1>out if you're in relationship and you're just dreaming about

0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 1>another one. And I also think we are so guilty

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:02.480
<v Speaker 1>of putting the rose colored glasses on previous situationships or

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 1>previous relationships, you know, like you remember the good bits,

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>and I think there's point in time where you're like

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 1>you're geting pissed off because your partner doesn't replace the

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 1>toilet roll.

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 2>But also I've had sex dreams before where I've woken

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 2>up feeling disgusting, Like I disgusted with myself, Like.

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, you're the person that you just get to dream

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 1>sex with, yes, and the things that were happening in

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 1>there like in a dream.

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 2>But the whole point is it's your subconscious It's the

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 2>way you dream about being murdered or dying or like whatever.

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 1>You can't control your dreams. It doesn't mean you want it.

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Your dreams are not.

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Indicative necessarily what you want to say that they are,

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 2>though there are some people who like do full dream analysis,

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 2>and I just I don't know.

0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Not for me, to be honest, I don't even want

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>to know. I don't want to know what it means,

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:48.479
<v Speaker 1>if it means anything. Let's go to number seven. Your

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 1>partner is uninterested in addressing issues that arise in your relationship,

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 1>big one. I also think that that kind of comes

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 1>down to like the one sided nature of communication in

0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 1>a relationship. Like I think that's actually quite related to

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 1>some of the other one and pretty obvious. I don't

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 1>think we really need to unpark that one. Yeah, Number

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>eight is something that I really hope we are all

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 1>aware of. They listed that you notice repetitive, unhealthy patterns

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 1>or signs of abuse, and that's a black and white.

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 2>One, as we've spoken about many times on many different

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 2>episodes here. Yes it is black and white that it

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 2>is a reason to break up, but we also know

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 2>leaving and breaking up isn't black and white.

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 1>So that's really important that.

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 2>We reiterate that it should not be in any relationship,

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:30.840
<v Speaker 2>and you shouldn't be in a relationship that has abuse

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 2>of any kinds emotional, financial, physical, But we understand it's

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 2>not as easy as saying thank you next.

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's also accumulative. Again, like we've said a couple

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 1>of times, I think it's really hard to pinpoint the

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 1>moment that you go, okay, we'll accept this, won't accept that,

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:45.760
<v Speaker 1>because it's so gradual.

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Number nine, the last reason that you should relieve a relationship,

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 2>according to the specialist, is that your friends, family, and

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 2>loved ones are concerned.

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Concern is an interesting.

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Term, and I say this because I've been in a

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:00.160
<v Speaker 2>relationship for I was in a relationship.

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:03.920
<v Speaker 1>With two and my family didn't like.

0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Him at all, hated him for me, but I didn't

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 2>know okay, because they didn't tell me until we broke up.

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:13.320
<v Speaker 2>And they made that choice because they didn't think that

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:15.840
<v Speaker 2>I was unsafe. It wasn't like physical abuse or any abuse.

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 2>They just didn't like who he was and they didn't

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 2>like us together or the way my life probably would

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 2>have panned out if I stayed with him. But at

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:25.439
<v Speaker 2>the time I seemed happy, So they made the choice

0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 2>of saying, let's not sit on a relationship right now,

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 2>let's just see what pans out. And as soon as

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 2>we broke up. My dad was like thank fuck, and.

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I was shocked.

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:36.040
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh you never that was like I

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:38.839
<v Speaker 2>never liked him. The problem is, and we've spoken about

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 2>this on other episodes, but you risk if you are

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 2>friends and family and you go to your friend or

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 2>relative and say, you know, we don't like this person

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 2>for you for this, this or this reason, you risk

0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 2>isolating and alienating that person. And Laura spoken about that

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:56.439
<v Speaker 2>a lot. She she was I guess the victim of

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 2>that that she left her friendship, circles and her families

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:01.360
<v Speaker 2>because she was so defended of the boyfriend that she

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 2>was with who was a total dirtbag, and her friends

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 2>and family were right. But it's a tricky place, Like

0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:09.440
<v Speaker 2>it's a really tricky place to be to be able

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 2>to listen to your friends and family's concerns and not

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 2>isolate anyone.

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:16.279
<v Speaker 1>I think it's also tricky because if you are the

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:18.440
<v Speaker 1>person who is the family or the friend and you

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:22.799
<v Speaker 1>voice it and they stay together, yeah, Christmas, Well, it's

0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 1>just like it's just awkward. You know, like you know

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 1>that you're going to be spending time with this person,

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:29.840
<v Speaker 1>you know that the person that you love is aware

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 1>of what you think of their relationship. They're going to

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:34.440
<v Speaker 1>feel judged. They're probably going to feel defensive of their

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 1>own choices, because we all want to feel as though

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>we're like intelligent enough to have autonomy over the decisions

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:41.680
<v Speaker 1>we make about the person that we want to be with.

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 1>But the problem is that you can so easily be

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:47.320
<v Speaker 1>blinded when you've got feelings and when you've got emotions involved,

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's so much easier for the people around you

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:51.280
<v Speaker 1>to see things more clearly.

0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I believe there is a way to do it, and

0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 2>I think one way, as an example, is not necessarily

0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:58.480
<v Speaker 2>to go to them and say he or she's fucked,

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:01.239
<v Speaker 2>like you need to leave if that's discussed, Like, you

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 2>can't just go ham and shit on the person. But

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 2>I think what you do is when they're maybe talking

0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:08.799
<v Speaker 2>to you about something that's happened or an argument, or

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 2>the way they've spoken to you or something they've done,

0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 2>there are ways to say, I don't think that's that normal,

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 2>like that shouldn't really be happening at this point of

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:19.360
<v Speaker 2>a relationship. There's ways to say instead of pinpointing on

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 2>him or her, to say what is or isn't.

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:25.279
<v Speaker 1>Healthy in a relationship. And I literally did it last

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:25.919
<v Speaker 1>week to a friend.

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:27.920
<v Speaker 2>A friend was telling me about this huge fight that

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 2>they had and the way that he had been speaking

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:32.319
<v Speaker 2>to her, the way he had treated her. I took

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 2>it back to my relationship, which I might not have.

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 2>I said, oh, you know, I would be really upset

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 2>if Ben spoken like that. I set the ground was

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 2>straight away and I said, no, you were not swear

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:42.399
<v Speaker 2>me in a relationship, You'll not do this like I've

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 2>set those boundaries. I said, it's not really healthy to

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 2>have that, So maybe you need to revisit your boundaries

0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:49.840
<v Speaker 2>with your partner. And so I tried to put it

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:51.759
<v Speaker 2>that way, like express a bit more how you feel

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 2>that you don't want to be spoken to in that way.

0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:55.840
<v Speaker 2>There are definitely ways to do it like that that

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 2>are not going to push your friend away from you,

0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:00.439
<v Speaker 2>because once your friend has been pushed away really hard

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 2>to bring them back.

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like they need to come to the realization themselves.

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:07.239
<v Speaker 1>There are three questions that I wrote down for you

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:10.479
<v Speaker 1>to ask yourself if you're possibly in this position after

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 1>reading these articles, and I'm interested to get your thoughts

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:15.440
<v Speaker 1>on the brit The first one was, I think you

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 1>should ask yourself am I staying in this relationship out

0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>of fear of being alone.

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a big one that I have definitely done before.

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 2>I have definitely stayen relationships far too long. And I

0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:29.839
<v Speaker 2>think as women, we have a big fear of being

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:33.879
<v Speaker 2>on our own. And I don't know where that inherently

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:38.279
<v Speaker 2>comes from. I think it comes from biological pressure. Well, yeah, patriarchy,

0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:41.400
<v Speaker 2>but also biological pressures. You know, if you are a

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 2>woman of a certain age and you want.

0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 1>To reproduce, Like there are also a lot of notions,

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 1>like you said about the patriarchy of used goods, you know,

0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:52.600
<v Speaker 1>like you don't want to be the single woman at

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:55.399
<v Speaker 1>a certain age that is trying to pick up young men,

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:57.879
<v Speaker 1>and like there's just so much shame involved in those

0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:01.239
<v Speaker 1>types of communication. I guess yes, it goes further than

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:01.600
<v Speaker 1>that too.

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:03.959
<v Speaker 2>It goes to the point, and it's something that I've

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 2>noticed since I've been in a relationship because I was

0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 2>on my own for so long, there was a huge

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 2>relief that I don't have to go through everything.

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:14.280
<v Speaker 1>On my own. So it wasn't being alone.

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:18.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm happy to be alone, but the idea that if

0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 2>I lost my job, now there's someone to financially help

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:23.840
<v Speaker 2>me that I'm going to have a roof over my head.

0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:26.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't have to make every decision.

0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 1>On my own.

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:29.319
<v Speaker 2>And I remember maybe two years ago, three years ago,

0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 2>i don't know, on the podcast talking about the surprising

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:34.000
<v Speaker 2>feelings that I felt when I finally did get into

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 2>a relationship, and it was the relief of not having

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:38.239
<v Speaker 2>to make every.

0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:40.319
<v Speaker 1>Life decision on my own and I had someone to

0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:40.840
<v Speaker 1>go through it with.

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:43.360
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't that I had someone physically there, because I

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:45.319
<v Speaker 2>was happy to be on my own, but it's a

0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 2>really nice thought to say, hey, if something doesn't work out,

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 2>I've got someone that's going to help me out. And

0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people staying in relationships for

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 2>that reason. So, Keisha, how do you personally distinguish between

0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 2>just going through a rough patch in your relationship or

0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:02.960
<v Speaker 2>being like fundamentally incompatible?

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:05.839
<v Speaker 1>Big, big question. It is a huge question, and it's

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 1>also something that I'm not completely going to go into

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 1>the depths of this, but this is something that I

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 1>really had to debate a couple of months ago in

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:17.320
<v Speaker 1>my own relationship. You know, it was me working out

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:19.879
<v Speaker 1>whether this was just a bit of a rough patch

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:21.719
<v Speaker 1>or a rough couple of months for us or whether

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 1>it was a sign that maybe we were headed in

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 1>different directions. And I really really struggled with it. The

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:32.560
<v Speaker 1>one thing that I think helped me was I listened

0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 1>to this podcast and life on Cut. Yeah, just listened

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:39.880
<v Speaker 1>to our own put. I mean I listened to it

0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:42.239
<v Speaker 1>three times before the episodes are published as it is,

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:47.799
<v Speaker 1>but more listening. They spoke about how often when we're

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:50.719
<v Speaker 1>in these situations, we really play the blame game. We

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:54.440
<v Speaker 1>really go like, oh, they're doing this, they're doing that,

0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:57.040
<v Speaker 1>and I'm unhappy about this, and I'm unhappy about that.

0:39:57.320 --> 0:39:59.880
<v Speaker 1>The advice that they gave was really about putting the

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 1>mirror on yourself and trying to list the things that

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:07.360
<v Speaker 1>you're able to improve on in the relationship. During that time,

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:10.399
<v Speaker 1>I really realized that I was playing tit for tat.

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like keeping score and not really being a teammate.

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I was getting resentful of certain things, and I was

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:19.719
<v Speaker 1>feeling as though more of the load was on me,

0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:23.000
<v Speaker 1>and I was getting really frustrated by it, and I

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 1>was feeling underappreciated. But I actually really purposefully sat down

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, Okay, maybe I need to just

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 1>see what I can do better in the relationship and

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:36.879
<v Speaker 1>just see if it makes the relationship improve, and try

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:38.880
<v Speaker 1>and be less resentful of these things that are pissing

0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:41.920
<v Speaker 1>me off. And the second I did that, the change

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:47.240
<v Speaker 1>in my relationship was astronomical. I was actually like, holy shit, Yeah,

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize how much my resent was becoming a

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:52.720
<v Speaker 1>poison in our relationship, and it was just getting worse

0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and I was getting more resentful and more angry. Again,

0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 1>this is going to be so individual. It's going to

0:40:57.680 --> 0:41:00.760
<v Speaker 1>be so based off of your own circumstances and also

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:02.960
<v Speaker 1>off of the length of the time that your rough

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:03.759
<v Speaker 1>patch is.

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:04.840
<v Speaker 2>For me.

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Now, I guess if this is ever to come up again,

0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 1>which it will, you know, inevitably everyone goes through this,

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:11.799
<v Speaker 1>and you probably go through it a lot. I'm going

0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 1>to first go, Okay, I'm getting really frustrated by these things,

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:18.120
<v Speaker 1>But how can I be more of a teammate. And

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:21.360
<v Speaker 1>if I start to change my behavior and things don't

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 1>get better, I think for me that would be the

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 1>sense of whether it's incompatibility.

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:28.919
<v Speaker 2>It comes down to the frequency of how many times

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:31.960
<v Speaker 2>you have to have these moments and is the other

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:33.840
<v Speaker 2>person coming to the table too, Because It can't just

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 2>be every time there's a rough patch that you come

0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:37.239
<v Speaker 2>to the table. It can't just be like, Okay, I'm

0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:39.759
<v Speaker 2>going to check myself meet halfway make the relationship better,

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 2>because that's always going to make the relationship better.

0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:44.080
<v Speaker 1>But it can very much be a.

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Band aid unless both people accept and understand how the

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:52.080
<v Speaker 2>other person is feeling. And I think that is imperative.

0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 2>So it's like, how often this is happening and are

0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:56.800
<v Speaker 2>both people coming to the table.

0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:59.319
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a good point, Britt. For you, what

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:01.719
<v Speaker 1>are some clear signs for you that indicate that it

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:05.360
<v Speaker 1>might be time to end a relationship? Oh, I mean

0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:07.640
<v Speaker 1>we just live a night of them that professionals thought,

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:09.880
<v Speaker 1>But what for you personally? Do you know?

0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:11.880
<v Speaker 2>For me, I mean, the number one thing is that

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:13.840
<v Speaker 2>I have had in the past is the ick. I

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 2>haven't ever been able to come back from an ick,

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 2>so once I have had that, And there's obviously a

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:20.360
<v Speaker 2>lot of things that lead up to that. But I

0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:25.920
<v Speaker 2>think in a relationship almost everything almost can be worked through,

0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:28.800
<v Speaker 2>like general issues that are relationship has and I'm talking

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:31.080
<v Speaker 2>sense the serious things.

0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Like the abuse.

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 2>I even say that to the point of cheating, and

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:35.840
<v Speaker 2>like when I started this podcast five years ago, I

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 2>would have been out the front door. I would have said,

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:40.120
<v Speaker 2>if you cheat on me, I'm done. But I have

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:43.760
<v Speaker 2>such a bigger understanding of why and what that looks

0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 2>like now that I think even that can be worked

0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:48.320
<v Speaker 2>through under the right circumstances. And I want to blanket

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:50.040
<v Speaker 2>that because every time I say that, all Laura says

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 2>that people come for us. It's okay to have a

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:53.800
<v Speaker 2>difference of opinion. It's okay for you to be in

0:42:53.840 --> 0:42:56.480
<v Speaker 2>a relationship right now, and cheating is a deal breaker.

0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:59.360
<v Speaker 2>But I think you very much have to understand the

0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:02.400
<v Speaker 2>situation that comes from Esther Perel, the relationship specialist that

0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:04.680
<v Speaker 2>we've spoken to. The episode that we did with her

0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:08.239
<v Speaker 2>many moons ago really changed my outlook on cheating. For me,

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:10.440
<v Speaker 2>if it's any one of those points that we've discussed

0:43:10.680 --> 0:43:14.920
<v Speaker 2>that is reoccurring and you can't shake, then it's probably

0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:18.600
<v Speaker 2>time to leave the relationship. If you are constantly thinking

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:21.800
<v Speaker 2>about a particular person, so I know we said earlier,

0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 2>if your brain is thinking of different lives and it's

0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 2>wandering and different sex, what sex would be like with

0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 2>that person, that's all normal. But if you know deep

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:33.439
<v Speaker 2>down you have feelings for someone might be the person

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 2>at the gym, or someone that you work with all

0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 2>the time, someone that you are thinking about consistently. I

0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 2>think it's probably time to leave the relationship if you

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 2>look ten years down the track and you can't see

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:46.160
<v Speaker 2>yourselves living in the same place or doing the same

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:48.520
<v Speaker 2>things day to day. If it's kids, or if it's

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:49.919
<v Speaker 2>one of you wants to go to church and raise

0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:53.319
<v Speaker 2>your kids in a religion, those big differences. It is

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:56.440
<v Speaker 2>so much easier to end a relationship now than in

0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:59.799
<v Speaker 2>ten years time. But I truly believe everyone is going

0:43:59.880 --> 0:44:01.360
<v Speaker 2>to go to this feeling of am I with the

0:44:01.400 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 2>right person? And I also truly believe that deep down

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:07.360
<v Speaker 2>you already know the answer. Sometimes it's really hard to

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 2>face though. Relationships take work, like the right relationship isn't

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:13.840
<v Speaker 2>going to be a walk in the park for the

0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 2>rest of your life, and this day and age, we

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 2>have a real tendency to want to tap out really quickly.

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:22.600
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a generational thing. Our parents and grandparents

0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:23.400
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have done.

0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:25.400
<v Speaker 1>That, and they didn't do that. They rode through the

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:27.200
<v Speaker 1>hard times. But now we have.

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:31.080
<v Speaker 2>Access to an exit and so many options and I'm

0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:32.400
<v Speaker 2>talking like online dating.

0:44:32.840 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 1>I think that's multifaceted.

0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:34.319
<v Speaker 2>Though.

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I actually think that with the rise of women's rights

0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:40.160
<v Speaker 1>and our ability to make money and support ourselves, I

0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 1>think it is a good thing overall that women now

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:46.600
<v Speaker 1>feel more comfortable leaving relationships.

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, one hundred percent. We're in a more comfortable position

0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:50.880
<v Speaker 2>to leave when we want to.

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:53.839
<v Speaker 1>But I guess what I'm saying is sometimes you take

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:55.400
<v Speaker 1>the kind of quick the queen.

0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Is the exit. Yeah, I asked my dad this. My

0:44:57.920 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 2>mum and dad had been married for forty five years.

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 2>They have a really good relationship, and they have a

0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:04.840
<v Speaker 2>really good relationship. I've never heard my dad raise his

0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 2>voice to my mom. He would never swear at my mom.

0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:09.879
<v Speaker 2>They still write each other love notes, they hold hands

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:12.359
<v Speaker 2>when they walk. And I asked my dad that, really,

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 2>honestly a couple of years ago, and he said, there

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:17.719
<v Speaker 2>was a time that we nearly broke up. You know,

0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:21.479
<v Speaker 2>He's like, we were not happy, but we had four

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:24.440
<v Speaker 2>little kids. That's why we weren't happy. We were struggling

0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:26.760
<v Speaker 2>to make ends meet, we weren't sleeping, we were stressed.

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:29.160
<v Speaker 2>It would have been very easy to leave and call

0:45:29.200 --> 0:45:31.440
<v Speaker 2>it a day and he's like, but I'm so glad

0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:34.399
<v Speaker 2>we worked through that because the best parts of our

0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:37.439
<v Speaker 2>relationship came after the unhappiness and that was a real

0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:40.280
<v Speaker 2>point where he's like, you need to work at relationships.

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:42.040
<v Speaker 1>That's what I want people to know.

0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:44.719
<v Speaker 2>The first sign of trouble in a relationship doesn't have

0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:47.879
<v Speaker 2>to be an exit, but deep down, you know if

0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:49.760
<v Speaker 2>the person you're with is going to be your forever,

0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Like you know that gut feeling, that intrinsic gut feeling

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:55.400
<v Speaker 2>that we get that as women, we so often choose

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:58.880
<v Speaker 2>to ignore and then later on we're like, oh, should

0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:00.440
<v Speaker 2>have probably listened to that. That's the thing I think

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 2>we need to start listening to.

0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:03.799
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what's so interesting? I don't know if

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I agree with that very last point of yours intrinsic

0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:09.279
<v Speaker 1>gut feeling, just that knowledge of the one. I don't

0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:11.879
<v Speaker 1>think there is a one why, Like I definitely don't either.

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:13.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that there are so many people that you

0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:16.279
<v Speaker 1>could be with for your long term relationship. I think

0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:23.040
<v Speaker 1>because I get confused between lust, desire, compatibility, reliability, stability,

0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:26.640
<v Speaker 1>and it even spreads into this idea of happiness. And

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:28.839
<v Speaker 1>this is something that I thought about quite a long

0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:34.000
<v Speaker 1>time ago and thought about how happiness for me is

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:37.600
<v Speaker 1>not a reliable indicator of anything. And I think that

0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:40.960
<v Speaker 1>this exists especially for people who live with mental illness.

0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:43.000
<v Speaker 1>So if you have depression, anxiety, if you are in

0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 1>your own diverse, yeah, I know that a lot of

0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:46.520
<v Speaker 1>people are going to be like, what the fuck are

0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:48.040
<v Speaker 1>you talking about? And then there's going to be some

0:46:48.080 --> 0:46:50.640
<v Speaker 1>people who are like, oh, I so understand what you're

0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:52.920
<v Speaker 1>talking about right now. For me, I've been through periods

0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:55.400
<v Speaker 1>of my life where externally, everything can be great. My

0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 1>job can be good, like my living arrangements, whether I'm

0:46:58.200 --> 0:47:00.400
<v Speaker 1>in a relationship or not, everything can be great. And

0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I have been in some of the worst depression waves

0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:06.719
<v Speaker 1>I've ever experienced, and I think I've started to realize

0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:10.359
<v Speaker 1>that because whether it's neurochemistry, whether it's dopamine, I don't

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:12.239
<v Speaker 1>know what the fuck it is in my brain. But

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:15.839
<v Speaker 1>even when I work on the circumstances for things that

0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:20.239
<v Speaker 1>should alleviate me of feeling depressed, sometimes I don't have

0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:23.440
<v Speaker 1>a choice in it. Sometimes I feel so depressed for

0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:27.000
<v Speaker 1>no logical reason, unfortunately for me, and I think a

0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:30.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of people will feel the same feelings of happiness

0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:33.799
<v Speaker 1>or feelings of joy are not necessarily reliable to make

0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:36.600
<v Speaker 1>any decisions in your life based off of, because it

0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:38.719
<v Speaker 1>can be fleeting, and it can be unpredictable, and it

0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:41.520
<v Speaker 1>can be not reflective of what's actually going on around you.

0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:44.200
<v Speaker 1>And it's so frustrating as well when you're the type

0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:46.319
<v Speaker 1>of person who feels like that, And I think it

0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:49.200
<v Speaker 1>impacts your relationships so much, and I hate that it

0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:52.360
<v Speaker 1>does because you don't really have control over it either,

0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:55.359
<v Speaker 1>and so you can be feeling as though you're not

0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:57.640
<v Speaker 1>giving your role and that you're not being a good partner.

0:47:57.680 --> 0:47:59.520
<v Speaker 1>And maybe it's one of the reasons that you feel

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:01.440
<v Speaker 1>like you should up because you're like, well, I'm not

0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:04.960
<v Speaker 1>feeling happy in this relationship. And it's so frustrating when

0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:07.319
<v Speaker 1>you're like, well, am I not feeling happy because of

0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:09.960
<v Speaker 1>the relationship? Or am I just fucked? Like is my

0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:14.239
<v Speaker 1>brain just not able to make me feel happiness in

0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:17.480
<v Speaker 1>a way that other people experience? Yeah, And firstly, the

0:48:17.520 --> 0:48:22.520
<v Speaker 1>answer is no, You're not fucked. No abatable, Like, I

0:48:22.560 --> 0:48:24.640
<v Speaker 1>know that this is a really dark and a deeper

0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:27.319
<v Speaker 1>version of this type of conversation, but I think one

0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:29.480
<v Speaker 1>of the main questions that people get asked when they're

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:31.440
<v Speaker 1>talking with their friends about whether they should break up

0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:33.600
<v Speaker 1>or not is are you happy?

0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:36.000
<v Speaker 2>And that is something that I think we all need

0:48:36.040 --> 0:48:38.280
<v Speaker 2>to remember. If you're listening right now, you are not alone.

0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:41.480
<v Speaker 2>If you have those feelings, you're not fucked in the brain.

0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:44.680
<v Speaker 2>As Kisha said, you might be, yeah, but it's not

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:46.920
<v Speaker 2>your fault and it's just something that you need to

0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:52.080
<v Speaker 2>work through with your partner and externally with a relationship therapist,

0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:54.920
<v Speaker 2>with a personal therapist before you go in and make

0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:56.759
<v Speaker 2>any rash decisions in your relationship.

0:48:57.920 --> 0:49:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Let's get into accidentally unfiltered most embarrassing stories.

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:05.359
<v Speaker 2>Brittany had one of her own with the Kegari with

0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:07.479
<v Speaker 2>photo bombing someone else's wedding shoe.

0:49:07.560 --> 0:49:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay.

0:49:09.160 --> 0:49:11.319
<v Speaker 2>We live on land and over the years have had

0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 2>many different people keep their horses at our house. So

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:17.640
<v Speaker 2>one afternoon, my mum got a text from her number

0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:20.759
<v Speaker 2>she didn't have saved in her phone informing her that

0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:23.680
<v Speaker 2>someone had passed away. And the text had all the

0:49:23.719 --> 0:49:27.280
<v Speaker 2>funeral details and was signed off with the family's names,

0:49:27.320 --> 0:49:30.800
<v Speaker 2>which were all very generic. So my mum was reading

0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:33.160
<v Speaker 2>it and couldn't figure out if they had sent the

0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:35.040
<v Speaker 2>text to the wrong person or if she knew the

0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:38.440
<v Speaker 2>family or who it was. She came into my room

0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:40.319
<v Speaker 2>and read the text out to me to see if

0:49:40.320 --> 0:49:43.240
<v Speaker 2>I could figure it out, but I also couldn't. Fifteen

0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:47.280
<v Speaker 2>minutes later, she comes back into my room panicking, saying deleted, deleted, deleted.

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, no, no, no no, no, help me, help me,

0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:51.799
<v Speaker 1>please get rid of it. And I'm like, what is

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:53.960
<v Speaker 1>going on? So I look at her phone and she

0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:57.560
<v Speaker 1>had meant to send me a text message on but

0:49:57.640 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 1>instead she replied to the person who had sent the

0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:04.520
<v Speaker 1>original funeral details, the person who is giving yeah, the

0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:07.759
<v Speaker 1>death notice. Yeah, this is what she said. I've worked

0:50:07.760 --> 0:50:10.840
<v Speaker 1>it out. It's Sally's mom, it's Sprinkle's owner.

0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:12.800
<v Speaker 2>It's sad because she was pretty nice.

0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:14.479
<v Speaker 1>Her husband was a tad weird though.

0:50:17.960 --> 0:50:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, she just said it was the horse's mom mom,

0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:26.040
<v Speaker 2>it was Sprinkle's mom. It was Sprinkle's mom that died,

0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:29.600
<v Speaker 2>and the husband's weird, and the husband's weird. And she

0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:31.520
<v Speaker 2>has sent that back to the daughter who sent it

0:50:31.600 --> 0:50:35.799
<v Speaker 2>funeral details. So she's basically said her mam has passed away.

0:50:35.800 --> 0:50:36.880
<v Speaker 2>And she basically said.

0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I'm dying Oh my god, that's the

0:50:39.840 --> 0:50:40.360
<v Speaker 1>wrong term.

0:50:40.520 --> 0:50:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Her mama's died and she's got a text from someone

0:50:43.560 --> 0:50:45.360
<v Speaker 2>being like, I've worked out who it is.

0:50:45.400 --> 0:50:49.000
<v Speaker 1>It's the horse's pair. Also, your dad's a bit strange.

0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Dad's safe to say.

0:50:52.160 --> 0:50:55.279
<v Speaker 2>She was mortified and obviously didn't attend the funeral. To

0:50:55.360 --> 0:50:57.680
<v Speaker 2>make things worse. Only a few weeks later, Apple announced

0:50:57.680 --> 0:50:59.080
<v Speaker 2>they were bringing out the new feature where.

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<v Speaker 1>You could send her miss Yeah.

0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:04.080
<v Speaker 2>That is funny, but not funny like that, the circumstance

0:51:04.200 --> 0:51:04.920
<v Speaker 2>is not funny.

0:51:05.360 --> 0:51:07.520
<v Speaker 1>That is so funny. We got another one that I

0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:10.600
<v Speaker 1>had have been absolute stitches. I went to Laser Clinics

0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:14.000
<v Speaker 1>for my usual Brazilian treatment zap the lady. As I

0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:16.560
<v Speaker 1>added that, the lady asked me if I would like

0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:19.160
<v Speaker 1>the full treatment, you know, the front and the back feels.

0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I think they call it the Hollywood. Yeah, remember I

0:51:21.120 --> 0:51:24.000
<v Speaker 1>talked about it the Holywood. So I flip around and

0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:26.080
<v Speaker 1>she does a couple of zaps and then pulls the

0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:29.840
<v Speaker 1>laser machine out. To my astonishment, the plastic part on

0:51:29.920 --> 0:51:32.560
<v Speaker 1>the top of the gun was left in my butt

0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:38.640
<v Speaker 1>cheeks because I hang off, hang on, it does feel

0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:42.520
<v Speaker 1>like Satan is stabbing you in the asshole. I disagree.

0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:46.719
<v Speaker 2>I have had three Hollywoods. And also how far up

0:51:46.800 --> 0:51:48.480
<v Speaker 2>they put in it that you've clenched it and pulled

0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:49.840
<v Speaker 2>it off with your butt cheeks.

0:51:49.960 --> 0:51:52.400
<v Speaker 1>They do really room it up there, do they not?

0:51:52.560 --> 0:51:53.760
<v Speaker 2>For you?

0:51:53.600 --> 0:51:54.760
<v Speaker 1>You pull your cheeks apart?

0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, but they told me to they like spread it,

0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:01.520
<v Speaker 2>probably because too many people's machines were getting stuck up

0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:01.719
<v Speaker 2>the butt.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fucking hilarious. I've had different strokes to different folks,

0:52:06.160 --> 0:52:09.200
<v Speaker 1>meaning like I've had laser done so many times that

0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:11.719
<v Speaker 1>I kind of go like, how do you want me?

0:52:14.360 --> 0:52:16.440
<v Speaker 1>I just realized that I should never make eye contact

0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:18.560
<v Speaker 1>when I asked them that do you want me? Do

0:52:18.600 --> 0:52:21.240
<v Speaker 1>you want any spreading? Some want you on your tummy,

0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:23.840
<v Speaker 1>someone you on your side, Some want you to lift

0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:24.239
<v Speaker 1>a leg.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone I've always had, dummy, have you I've always had

0:52:27.600 --> 0:52:29.280
<v Speaker 2>please roll over and spread your cheeks.

0:52:29.400 --> 0:52:31.520
<v Speaker 1>No, I've done side, and I feel like maybe this

0:52:31.600 --> 0:52:34.920
<v Speaker 1>girl's side because it's side. Too much gravity on the

0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:38.480
<v Speaker 1>top cheek. That's how it got No, she said. She

0:52:39.440 --> 0:52:42.080
<v Speaker 1>said she clenched it picture on a tummy and being like,

0:52:42.640 --> 0:52:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I've definitely clenched because it does hurt. It does feel

0:52:45.560 --> 0:52:49.839
<v Speaker 1>like maybe my butt is immune. It doesn't couple, no,

0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:51.640
<v Speaker 1>because I don't even like it in the butt.

0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:55.400
<v Speaker 2>So suck and sweet highlight and the low light of

0:52:55.440 --> 0:53:00.640
<v Speaker 2>the week. My suck this week is that Delilah, my dog,

0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:05.800
<v Speaker 2>the little b I t h has completely forgotten I existed,

0:53:05.960 --> 0:53:09.880
<v Speaker 2>like I have raised her from a puppy for three years.

0:53:10.880 --> 0:53:12.680
<v Speaker 1>It's not her birthday yet we missed.

0:53:12.440 --> 0:53:16.520
<v Speaker 2>The thoughts in July. We did miss the last two July.

0:53:16.920 --> 0:53:19.720
<v Speaker 2>She just like forgets when there's a man in her house.

0:53:20.040 --> 0:53:22.960
<v Speaker 2>She forgets how exist. I've never seen a dog like

0:53:23.040 --> 0:53:25.200
<v Speaker 2>it any men, whether she knows them or not. She's

0:53:25.200 --> 0:53:28.120
<v Speaker 2>the biggest flirt. She just has this like obsession with Ben.

0:53:28.160 --> 0:53:29.879
<v Speaker 2>And I will come home from like a big day,

0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:31.239
<v Speaker 2>or we'll wake up in the morning and say hello

0:53:31.280 --> 0:53:32.719
<v Speaker 2>to it, and I'll be like la lah and she

0:53:32.840 --> 0:53:35.680
<v Speaker 2>just will not even make Iconda run straight past me.

0:53:35.680 --> 0:53:38.479
<v Speaker 1>You won't even she won't even come for a pat and.

0:53:38.440 --> 0:53:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Just sit on Ben's face, which I also like to do,

0:53:40.640 --> 0:53:45.200
<v Speaker 2>so I understand it.

0:53:42.239 --> 0:53:50.960
<v Speaker 1>But Ben will be like cut cut She's only human, No,

0:53:51.040 --> 0:53:51.560
<v Speaker 1>she's a dog.

0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:54.040
<v Speaker 2>But I understand it. So that's my suck this week

0:53:54.120 --> 0:53:55.760
<v Speaker 2>is that like when there's a man I don't exist.

0:53:56.640 --> 0:53:58.880
<v Speaker 2>My sweet is Hamilton Island. Obviously, I had an amazing

0:53:58.880 --> 0:54:02.120
<v Speaker 2>weekend with Ben, very loved up in the sunshine. It

0:54:02.200 --> 0:54:05.640
<v Speaker 2>was beautiful, lots of hanky panky and just a whole,

0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:06.920
<v Speaker 2>really wholesome.

0:54:06.520 --> 0:54:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Couple of days. That sounds wonderful. My suck for the

0:54:09.880 --> 0:54:15.280
<v Speaker 1>week isn't this will sound odd? Is my boyfriend's birthday

0:54:15.320 --> 0:54:17.880
<v Speaker 1>next week? And for my birthday last year, it was

0:54:17.920 --> 0:54:21.040
<v Speaker 1>my thirtieth, so it was a special birthday and he

0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:24.239
<v Speaker 1>went above, above, above, and beyond on the gifts. I

0:54:24.440 --> 0:54:26.640
<v Speaker 1>received more gifts from my birthday from him than what

0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:29.440
<v Speaker 1>I have collectively received from my entire family for the

0:54:29.440 --> 0:54:30.240
<v Speaker 1>past ten years.

0:54:30.280 --> 0:54:33.239
<v Speaker 2>Do you think that that is because it was just

0:54:33.280 --> 0:54:35.640
<v Speaker 2>your first birthday together, so he was and you were

0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:37.560
<v Speaker 2>still pretty new, so he's just trying to like lock

0:54:37.600 --> 0:54:39.000
<v Speaker 2>you in, and now he's got you dreckking get in

0:54:39.040 --> 0:54:39.520
<v Speaker 2>a tea towel.

0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It could be any of the above,

0:54:45.040 --> 0:54:48.359
<v Speaker 1>but now his birthdays rolled around, it's this week and

0:54:48.400 --> 0:54:51.839
<v Speaker 1>I have spent a disgusting amount of money. What did

0:54:51.920 --> 0:54:53.719
<v Speaker 1>you get in? I feel like I can say it

0:54:53.760 --> 0:54:57.279
<v Speaker 1>because he doesn't listen to the podcast he's requested, and

0:54:57.320 --> 0:55:00.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even joking. It's so strange a jap and

0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:01.280
<v Speaker 1>he's cooking knife.

0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:04.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's I get that. If you're no, I get that.

0:55:04.680 --> 0:55:07.440
<v Speaker 2>I bought Ben cooking stuff for his birthday. If you're

0:55:07.480 --> 0:55:09.640
<v Speaker 2>a man and you like to cook, they froth that.

0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:13.080
<v Speaker 1>How is a piece of metal? I don't care how

0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:17.440
<v Speaker 1>sharp it is? How is a piece of metal that expensive? Kisha?

0:55:17.480 --> 0:55:19.759
<v Speaker 2>He probably says the same thing when you ask for jewelry.

0:55:22.719 --> 0:55:26.320
<v Speaker 1>How is it my brain is blue? It's so true.

0:55:26.360 --> 0:55:30.160
<v Speaker 1>At least it's gold. At least it's like a valuable metal.

0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:33.680
<v Speaker 1>This is like steel. This is an alloy of shit,

0:55:33.760 --> 0:55:37.040
<v Speaker 1>metals that are found everywhere that are just shaped into

0:55:37.080 --> 0:55:40.920
<v Speaker 1>something that cuts things easily. Frankly, the sharp of the knife,

0:55:40.960 --> 0:55:43.000
<v Speaker 1>the more cautious I am to use it, because I

0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:45.239
<v Speaker 1>just don't trust myself. I'm really clumsy. Anyway, I've spent

0:55:45.280 --> 0:55:48.400
<v Speaker 1>a disgusting amount of money on a Japanese night, Like,

0:55:48.440 --> 0:55:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, here's your kif I love it, And hopefully

0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:52.520
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't listen to this and I spoils it. No,

0:55:52.600 --> 0:55:54.359
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't ever listen to the podcast, So I think

0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:56.560
<v Speaker 1>we're safe, But My sweet for the week is actually

0:55:56.640 --> 0:55:59.560
<v Speaker 1>related to Delilah as well, because she might have forgotten you,

0:55:59.760 --> 0:56:04.120
<v Speaker 1>but she has not forgotten me. I spent five days

0:56:04.120 --> 0:56:10.280
<v Speaker 1>with her in the Wound my dog were in Hamilton Island,

0:56:10.800 --> 0:56:13.719
<v Speaker 1>and it was the most joyous experience with her that

0:56:13.760 --> 0:56:15.799
<v Speaker 1>I've ever had. I feel like she's getting to that

0:56:15.880 --> 0:56:18.680
<v Speaker 1>age where she's lost some of her annoying puppy traits.

0:56:18.719 --> 0:56:21.600
<v Speaker 1>She used to be naughty. She can still be a

0:56:21.640 --> 0:56:27.600
<v Speaker 1>little naughty, but she gets tired quick. She's like naughty

0:56:27.600 --> 0:56:29.839
<v Speaker 1>and Okay, I will come back. I will come back

0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:32.799
<v Speaker 1>to you at the park. I just had such a

0:56:32.840 --> 0:56:34.920
<v Speaker 1>good I didn't actually realize how much I needed this.

0:56:35.360 --> 0:56:38.440
<v Speaker 1>I needed for my days to consist of get up,

0:56:38.760 --> 0:56:42.040
<v Speaker 1>go for a walk, come home, do some work, go

0:56:42.120 --> 0:56:44.919
<v Speaker 1>for another walk, come home, have dinner, and go to bed.

0:56:45.239 --> 0:56:47.080
<v Speaker 1>And I did that for five days straight and it

0:56:47.120 --> 0:56:50.239
<v Speaker 1>has absolutely reset me to a position where I'm just

0:56:50.280 --> 0:56:54.279
<v Speaker 1>feeling so good and my bloody lover. I had the

0:56:54.320 --> 0:56:56.640
<v Speaker 1>best time with her. It actually was such a joy

0:56:56.719 --> 0:56:58.680
<v Speaker 1>having her, and I'm so sorry she followed me around

0:56:58.719 --> 0:56:59.799
<v Speaker 1>like a fucking shadow.

0:56:59.840 --> 0:57:02.320
<v Speaker 2>She follows me like a shadow, but she just doesn't

0:57:02.400 --> 0:57:04.400
<v Speaker 2>She just that's only because she's like, don't leave the

0:57:04.440 --> 0:57:06.640
<v Speaker 2>house without me, like I'm gonna be on you. But

0:57:06.920 --> 0:57:09.120
<v Speaker 2>funnily enough, one of our mutual friends you went for

0:57:09.160 --> 0:57:12.480
<v Speaker 2>a walk with her, Kim Kim single, and Kim messaged

0:57:12.520 --> 0:57:15.719
<v Speaker 2>me and she's like, holy shit, I have never been

0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:18.080
<v Speaker 2>stopped so many times than when I'm with Delilah and crazy.

0:57:18.240 --> 0:57:20.400
<v Speaker 2>I said, yeah, I know that's the standard. And I said,

0:57:20.400 --> 0:57:22.800
<v Speaker 2>why don't you start to take her as a pickup.

0:57:22.800 --> 0:57:24.560
<v Speaker 2>She's like, I think I'm gonna have to. She's like,

0:57:24.600 --> 0:57:27.720
<v Speaker 2>it is she's never experienced an opener like Delilah. And

0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I was like, no one gets you talking like Delilah.

0:57:30.680 --> 0:57:34.080
<v Speaker 1>My old male housemates when they were single, yes, used

0:57:34.080 --> 0:57:36.080
<v Speaker 1>to take to take her deliberately because they would like

0:57:36.120 --> 0:57:38.280
<v Speaker 1>get three girls phone numbers because they're like, oh, yeah,

0:57:38.320 --> 0:57:39.920
<v Speaker 1>you can come for a walk with us, and then

0:57:40.000 --> 0:57:41.400
<v Speaker 1>right at the end they'd be like, by the way.

0:57:41.240 --> 0:57:43.720
<v Speaker 2>She's not my Remember that time I started banging that

0:57:43.760 --> 0:57:48.160
<v Speaker 2>really hot guy years ago, which one big yeah. Remember

0:57:48.160 --> 0:57:50.160
<v Speaker 2>the time I started banging that really hot guy because

0:57:50.160 --> 0:57:52.800
<v Speaker 2>he had the puppy. The only reason I met him

0:57:53.120 --> 0:57:54.680
<v Speaker 2>was he was the hot guy that used to walk

0:57:54.680 --> 0:57:58.280
<v Speaker 2>around Bondeu with a Golden Retriever puppy and I stopped

0:57:58.360 --> 0:58:00.800
<v Speaker 2>like moths still a flame. I couldn't have been the

0:58:00.840 --> 0:58:02.800
<v Speaker 2>only one. He would have had a Monday to Friday

0:58:02.880 --> 0:58:05.000
<v Speaker 2>or rotation. But we stopped to talk about the dog

0:58:05.040 --> 0:58:08.000
<v Speaker 2>and then we end up banging. It's like Kim unique

0:58:08.040 --> 0:58:08.320
<v Speaker 2>to date.

0:58:08.360 --> 0:58:10.840
<v Speaker 1>It happened. Yes, I actually I think we should loan

0:58:10.920 --> 0:58:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Delilah out. We could start a service. I'm not loaning. Know,

0:58:13.600 --> 0:58:15.240
<v Speaker 1>you have to pay, Yeah, you have to pay for us.

0:58:15.480 --> 0:58:18.640
<v Speaker 1>It's a business, Gisha, I'm going to pay for that

0:58:18.680 --> 0:58:21.240
<v Speaker 1>expensive food in that data. Anyway, guys, that is it

0:58:21.320 --> 0:58:23.919
<v Speaker 1>from us. Hey would really love it if you joined

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<v Speaker 1>us on YouTube. We do a lot of work on

0:58:25.920 --> 0:58:28.160
<v Speaker 1>the videos now, and we're getting them up so quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the time we have them up within twenty

0:58:30.360 --> 0:58:31.560
<v Speaker 1>four hours of the episode dropping.

0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:33.880
<v Speaker 2>And I know that other people are like some podcasts

0:58:33.960 --> 0:58:36.480
<v Speaker 2>drop their youtubes at the same time, and I'm like, yeah,

0:58:36.560 --> 0:58:38.960
<v Speaker 2>they're recorded three weeks in advance, and we're not.

0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Joe Rogan. We record like sixteen hours in advance to

0:58:44.160 --> 0:58:45.919
<v Speaker 1>when we drop the episodes. So there's just a little

0:58:45.920 --> 0:58:48.080
<v Speaker 1>bit of extra work that goes on into the videos,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm really loving it and I would love it

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<v Speaker 1>if you could just hit subscribe to crib follow me fab.

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<v Speaker 1>We're trying to grow it, you know. I'm really, really

0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:58.000
<v Speaker 1>bloody enjoying it myself. So it's a you tube.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't forget to mum too, Dad, tad of Tony

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