1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Joining us on the line live from Canberra, where Parliament 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: is sitting this week. Labour's Member for Solomon Luke Gosling, 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Good morning, Luke, Good morning Katy Luke. Obviously, Parliament sitting 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: this week and plenty on the agenda from your perspective, though, 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: you spoke in the chamber earlier this week to sprook 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory and our industries. 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 2: And well to encourage people to buy local. 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, we're looking for all sorts of ways to 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 3: increase our productivity and opportunities for our exporters in the 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 3: territory in manufacturing increasingly, but also agriculture and are the industries. 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 3: And I brought down some KP mangos to help tell 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 3: the story and they were very much appreciated by colleagues 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 3: from both sides of politics down here. Kadi. 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's so important that we do try 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: to engage locals in the territory as much as we can, 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: and I'm pleased that it's being raised, you know, on 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: that federal scale, because I guess from the perspective of 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory government obviously the procurement and that kind 19 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: of thing really does edge towards making sure that we 20 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: use local contractors, but sometimes with those bigger projects, it's 21 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: not happening as much as we might like. 22 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: And we've got to do it as much as we 23 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 3: possibly can. We need to make sure that our small 24 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 3: and medium businesses are healthy and growing and employing Territorians 25 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 3: and that will happen if we all put a focus 26 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 3: on it. And there's roles for every level of government. 27 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 4: I'm bringing up Anthony Albanesi, the Federal Labor Leader, and 28 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 4: also the Deputy Leader, Richard Marles two Darwin. Next week 29 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 4: we're going to have a series of roundtables with industry 30 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 4: about the challenges they're facing, but also what they want 31 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 4: to see from future federal labor labor governments. I'm really 32 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 4: looking forward to that. And the importance of the Australian 33 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 4: industry content is one thing, but it's the local industry 34 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 4: content that goes into whenever the federal government is spending 35 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 4: money that's really important to the growth of our local 36 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 4: economy and jobs for our kids. 37 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: Well, i'll tell you what will be keen to catch 38 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: up with Anthony Albanesi and Richard Miles, but I do 39 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: want to ask is there much of an appetite. I mean, 40 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: when you raise this in federal Parliament, is there much 41 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: of an appetite from the Coalition to try to ensure 42 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: that we are utilizing locals and. 43 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: Trying our best. 44 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: You know, I guess no matter what community they're working in, 45 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: whether it's a territory or whether you're talking about regional Queensland, 46 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: you want to really make sure that the businesses that 47 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: are based in those areas are the ones that are 48 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: being utilized. 49 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, And I'm not being political, Katie, but I 50 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 3: think we can be focusing on this a lot more. 51 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: I think what COVID has shown us is that whether 52 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: it be in trade, and I've been doing some policy 53 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: work developing where i think we should be going with trade, 54 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 3: which is strengthening what we do in Australia, not just 55 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 3: importing everything. There are some noises from the federal government 56 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: about it, but unfortunately a lot of the time I 57 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: think it is just noise. It needs to be backed 58 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: up with some firm commitments and it is an investment. 59 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: It's an investment in the future. So I'm really pleased 60 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: with how those discussions are going in Federal Labor and 61 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 3: just look forward to getting more feedback from industry when 62 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 3: we're on the ground next week. If we look at 63 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: defense industries, for example, we did a lot of consultation 64 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: with the master builders, with different companies that are part 65 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: of the defense supply chain. In the lead up to 66 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 3: the last election, we had a really good local procurement 67 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: and Australian industry content policy. We're going to continue to 68 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: consult and to develop that so that local businesses have 69 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: got the best chance of winning that work, which is 70 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: going to obviously be great for our our local economy, 71 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: but great for our community, jobs for our kids, and 72 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: that's what we're all about. We've also been talking about 73 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: education and the price of UNI fees this week down 74 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: in Canberra, and we want to make sure, particularly with 75 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: more young kids out of work, that there are the 76 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 3: opportunities there. And what I also do is I'm pushing 77 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: an idea which is going to encourage kids. We've got 78 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 3: Banawadu seasonal workers in the territory at the moment helping 79 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: us with the mangoes. I think we should also be 80 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 3: incentivizing our young kids to spend some time doing that 81 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 3: sort of work because everyone tells us that they don't 82 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: want to do that sort of work. But I think 83 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 3: with the right incentives, we can actually get kids that 84 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 3: may be going to UNI or what have you to 85 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: actually engage in that type of work. And I think 86 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 3: it's a good for them. 87 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: So what kind of incentives do you reckon that we 88 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: need to be offering to our young kids to get 89 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: out there and do some of that work like picking mangoes. 90 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: I think it'll be bloody good for them, you know, some. 91 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: Of our ldren, and maybe a little bit softer than 92 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: what they should be when they reach those teenage years 93 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: and older. 94 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: So I think it'll be some good hard work for them. 95 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 3: What also opens their eyes to a variety of industries 96 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 3: that are out there that they can get that they 97 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 3: can find working. I mean, what we want to do 98 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 3: is seriously invest in not only agriculture, but aquaculture and 99 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: the whole range of industries that we have in the North. 100 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 3: But have our kids getting in there and growing those industries. 101 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 3: And you know, you can't go into the top level. 102 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: Sometimes you've got to get in there and do a 103 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: bit of work on the ground, get your hands dirty, 104 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 3: make some friends, work out in the sunshine, have a sweat, 105 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: and just see what goes into running businesses and that 106 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: will just hold our kids in good stead for the future. 107 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: But I think it does need to be incentivized. And 108 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 3: I've also as well as the Leader and Deputy Leader 109 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: Elbow and Richard Males that are coming up next week. 110 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: I've also got the Agriculture and Resources Minutes to come 111 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: up because that's another massive boom area is in resources 112 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: for the territory getting kids in there, but also making 113 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: sure that we do everything we can to give our 114 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: resources industries the opportunity they need, the infrastructure that they need, 115 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 3: the opportunities and support that they need to grow. 116 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: So Loke, when you talk about incentives, I mean, what 117 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: are we talking. Do they need a bit of a 118 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: do I know, how do we get them out there 119 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: doing these types of jobs. 120 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good question, Katie, And part of the 121 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: consultations next week is exactly about that. But just to 122 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 3: invite any listeners there, whether you're a young person yourself 123 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 3: or whether whether you're the parent of young kids, to 124 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 3: give us some ideas. But obviously there is there can 125 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 3: be financial incentives, Like I'd rather see a small, small, 126 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 3: leish financial incentive go to a young person to take 127 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 3: up work opportunities in the territory rather than rather than 128 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: them being on a new start, for example. But there's 129 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 3: also things that we can do with incentives in terms 130 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 3: of subsidizing their bet training, their tape training, or their 131 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 3: university degrees. They're just a couple of ideas, but there 132 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 3: might be others that people have. But I think it's 133 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: really important. I think we need to build the resilience 134 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: of not only our young people, but of our supply chain. 135 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: We need to be making more stuff in the territory 136 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: and that'll bring more wealth into the territory. But I 137 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: think it's going to also provide opportunities for people to 138 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 3: come and visit the territory, do some work and put 139 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: down routes. 140 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: Well, look, Gosling, we are going to have to leave 141 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: it there. But I like that idea. I think it's 142 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: good for young people to get out there doing some 143 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: of those jobs that you know that maybe a scene 144 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: as being a little bit tougher. I think we've all 145 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: got to kind of have a crack at at doing 146 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: some of those jobs that are outdoors and a little 147 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: bit harder. Certainly, you know, it makes us respect each 148 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: other a little bit more, makes us respect those that 149 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: are in trades and doing some of the really tough 150 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: work that is the likes of mango farming for example. 151 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're all in this together. We keep hearing that, 152 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 3: but let's make it more than a slogan. Let's make 153 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 3: sure that the opportunities are known and are there and 154 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 3: if we do need to incentivize I'm working on a 155 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 3: couple of things. I appreciate people's feedback and appreciate your 156 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: time today, Okatie. 157 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: Thanks Louke. We'll talk to you again soon. 158 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: Mate, and we'll line up Elbow and Miles for a 159 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 3: chat with you next week. 160 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: That'd be wonderful. Thank you, Louke. We'll talk to you then.