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<v Speaker 1>The Flex and Frooms Daily Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>We are Flex and Frooms and today we are talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the fatal friendship floor.

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<v Speaker 3>We love f's here, love to get out a Flex

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<v Speaker 3>and frooms. Fatal friendship floor. That's some good alliteration. We

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<v Speaker 3>didn't come up with this term ourselves. I actually wrote

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<v Speaker 3>about fatal flaws in my book The Success Experiment Get

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<v Speaker 3>It Weekend. But I do think that people like to

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<v Speaker 3>avoid the topic because it feels a bit finite, right,

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<v Speaker 3>like things have to be done. It's fatal, it's dead,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't come back for it. But I just think

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<v Speaker 3>the more we allow ourselves comfortable with the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes things are treacherous and then you deal with them,

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<v Speaker 3>like sometimes you just have a friend who is terrible

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<v Speaker 3>in this one area and that's just the fact.

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<v Speaker 2>Now brunch plants. Yeah, okay, let's get to it a

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<v Speaker 2>little one. My bum sewing eche.

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 3>I got this DM very simple. Have you ever broken

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<v Speaker 3>up with a friend. If you were ever to be

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<v Speaker 3>the receiver of a friend breakup, would you prefer to

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<v Speaker 3>be ghosted eventually phase out or would you prefer clean

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<v Speaker 3>breakup with reasons and closure?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, why not? Already straight up reasons enclosure, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>hit me over the head with it and then be gone.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm of the opinion that if someone is so frustrated

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<v Speaker 3>with you that a breakup is required, they've tried to

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<v Speaker 3>be communicative, they've tried to reason with you, they've tried

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<v Speaker 3>to get the message through. It's not worked, hence the breakup.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Maybe you've just finished, like paths, one of you's

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<v Speaker 2>holding on because they don't have any other friends. This

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<v Speaker 2>could be a plethora of reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would just assume if a breakup was necessary,

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<v Speaker 3>it would be off the back of something quite bad

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<v Speaker 3>bad or like necessary to cut it, because I think

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<v Speaker 3>if I have a friend, unless we've just naturally drifted

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<v Speaker 3>because of time, you're gonna be around in the proofheral somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>If a breakup like a proper like romantic, Hey, we

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<v Speaker 3>need to talk. This is what I'm feeling. It's done,

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<v Speaker 3>like we're out of each other's lives, I would assume

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<v Speaker 3>it's for a good reason. Otherwise just sort it out.

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<v Speaker 3>But I haven't broken up with a friend before because

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<v Speaker 3>the times I tried it just wasn't received. Like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think people take very well to like really candid

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<v Speaker 3>and like mature conversation, it can go badly. They're kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like okay, like relax, like you know you're taking

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<v Speaker 3>it too seriously, or you're being too sensitive or like whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>You just need a break or so I just do

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<v Speaker 3>a soft ghost, and often because I think I just

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<v Speaker 3>need more time than I realized to figure out what

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<v Speaker 3>I think about people. And in the interim I can

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<v Speaker 3>be cordial, I can be polite and be fun, but

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<v Speaker 3>the long term of like do I want to exit

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<v Speaker 3>someone for my life forever or keep them around forever?

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<v Speaker 3>I need some time to think.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not that cut and dry.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not easy. It's not that simple.

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<v Speaker 2>The ghost sounds a bit more compelling when you put

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<v Speaker 2>it that way. But I like answers. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>finish it so I don't have to put any more

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<v Speaker 2>emotional energy into something that's not going to work out.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's on that flex and frooms high FLEXI. So

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<v Speaker 2>in team minus seven days, I'm going to be touching

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<v Speaker 2>down in I'd be fucked so hot. It's the land

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<v Speaker 2>of the Calvin Harrises, the DJ Generics, the David Greta's.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so excited for you. It's going to be life changing.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever been? No, I don't really know anyone

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<v Speaker 2>who's been. Yeah. No, it's a random place to.

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<v Speaker 3>Go to Europe. I'm not going to Abitha.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, well, I just figured I'm doing all the year.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in London, I'm in Paris, Amsterdam, had to throw

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<v Speaker 2>something a rogan there something beachside. You're into continental, babe,

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<v Speaker 2>I really am. It costs actually so much to go

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<v Speaker 2>between cities. I realize thousands dear to me, in this economy,

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<v Speaker 2>weird ass.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing is cheap when it comes to travel. That's why

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so surprised people like, yeah, I did your for

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<v Speaker 3>ten K. I'm like, ow, you're gone for.

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<v Speaker 2>Three months, three months for ten k. Yeah we did

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<v Speaker 2>that when we were nineteen kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>There was no wi. I was, I'm always traveling lucks

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<v Speaker 3>and like I'm going to go one place, ball out

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<v Speaker 3>come back.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I've actually never been to Europe, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Now is the time. Remember you told me you were

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<v Speaker 3>Swedish and I believed you.

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<v Speaker 2>You put that on me. I've never said I'm sweeting you.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally, I said, I said, are you Swedish? And you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>it's the blonde hair of course, and I was like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone with two brain cells. No, this is a bleach

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<v Speaker 2>job hunt, wouldn't you.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. This is Caucasian activities anyway, keeping out

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<v Speaker 3>of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm going to Europe and I'm hoping to interview

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<v Speaker 2>David Gueta. So David Weta in Ibetha.

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<v Speaker 3>And what have you sent an email? Have you pulled

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<v Speaker 3>some strings? Like yeah, it's gonna cost him from the

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<v Speaker 3>front row.

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<v Speaker 2>I started the Ibetha like propaganda on my Instagram a

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<v Speaker 2>few months ago, and someone from his label will hear

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<v Speaker 2>me up like a friend of mine, and said, do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to interview him? And I said yes? Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>links didn't link up in the ah, so I went

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<v Speaker 2>ahead and I bought tickets for me and my friends

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<v Speaker 2>to see David Wedda at Wayosha on October third, eighty

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<v Speaker 2>eight dollars euro eighty eight euro. She loves giving out

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<v Speaker 2>time to day it's details. Well, okay, it's a massive bub.

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<v Speaker 2>No one's gonna see me. If you do, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be my best life. So I'm happy to be witnessed. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking, if I do get the chance to

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<v Speaker 2>interview him, what would you ask flex? Because I know

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<v Speaker 2>we've discussed interviews before and often they can be quite lame.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, most of them are. I just want to find

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<v Speaker 3>out the stuff that makes someone feel like a real person,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I just every like, what's your inspiration? Where did

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<v Speaker 3>the name for the song come from? I'm like it

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<v Speaker 3>just like all that stuff is contrived and the sum

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<v Speaker 3>of your PR team and your managers and your creative

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<v Speaker 3>people who are like, we need to do this vibe

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<v Speaker 3>for someone I don't know, like I want to see.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to know, like if he likes his pillows soft,

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<v Speaker 3>firm or like medium?

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you eat for breakfast?

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<v Speaker 3>No? Boring? Really, every time I get asked in an interview,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I didn't eat breakfast.

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<v Speaker 2>You get asked out a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>So often, like the first question, it's like the ice

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<v Speaker 3>breakery one where I'm like, I think if I wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>an interview. No, I think it's a double whammy. It's

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<v Speaker 3>having been interviewed and it's having interviewed people where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I can see how it's lame on both sides, and

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<v Speaker 3>you'll know, like if you ask celebrities like what question

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<v Speaker 3>do you hate being answered. It's the ones that they

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<v Speaker 3>get asked all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's how I can start the interview. So what

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<v Speaker 2>is your most hated interview question?

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<v Speaker 3>But then how do you follow up from that? Because

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<v Speaker 3>you put pressure on the next question you asked you like,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you want for breakfast?

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<v Speaker 2>On that anyway, Okay, you've been totally not helpful, But

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<v Speaker 2>I look for that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not what I'm here to do. That's not what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm here to do. We all have our roles.

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<v Speaker 2>I look forward to sharing all of my photos with

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<v Speaker 2>you from my BEFA.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, what I think would be really controversial the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that you're going with a friend, and you know everybody

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<v Speaker 3>says you shouldn't travel with friends through me. Will there

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<v Speaker 3>be a friendship breakup? Yeah, probably knows.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fine. We've had break us. But my friend and I,

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<v Speaker 2>oh really, we have hard conversations constantly earlier in the relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually we did.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and frooms on DA.

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<v Speaker 3>I have come across this theory called the fatal friendship floor.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen to this video. It is going to blow your mind.

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<v Speaker 3>If it doesn't money back guarantee.

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<v Speaker 4>It's more of a rule than a theory. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think that every single one of your close or best

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<v Speaker 4>friends has a fatal flaw. Maybe they're insecure, maybe they're

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<v Speaker 4>really attention seeking around boys. Whatever it is, once you

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<v Speaker 4>identify it, have to accept it. When I was growing up,

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<v Speaker 4>I had this friend and she was a liar. The

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<v Speaker 4>lies didn't hurt anybody, but they were big lies, and

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<v Speaker 4>I would complain to my mom about it all the time,

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<v Speaker 4>and eventually she was like, enough, if this is part

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<v Speaker 4>of her personality, you have to accept it or don't

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<v Speaker 4>be friends with her anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>And so was born my rule.

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<v Speaker 4>Once you identify your close friend's fatal flaw, anytime it

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<v Speaker 4>flares up, you can't be triggered by it because you

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<v Speaker 4>have to accept that that's their fatal flaw. So say

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<v Speaker 4>that they're really insecure, and you identify that, and then

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<v Speaker 4>one day they call you and they're like, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know which dress to wear and they keep you on

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<v Speaker 4>the phone for half an hour. You have to view

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<v Speaker 4>that as a write off under the fatal flaw clause.

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<v Speaker 4>And if the fatal flaw bothers you enough, then you

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<v Speaker 4>have to demote them to a less close friend. The

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<v Speaker 4>silliest thing is if you are consistently triggered by your

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<v Speaker 4>friend's fatal flaw, either accept it or demote them, or

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<v Speaker 4>you'll drive yourself crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that tinks?

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<v Speaker 3>It's tinks. Wow, it's tinks. I stand by that one

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<v Speaker 3>because there's a lot of behaviors that I can see

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<v Speaker 3>in a lot of my close friends I would not

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<v Speaker 3>tolerate from someone I wasn't close with that I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have love for, But in the context of them, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>it'll do like a big one. Is I'm really off

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<v Speaker 3>about self deprecation. I really hate it, like it like

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<v Speaker 3>not only frustrates me, because I'm like, if you cannot

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<v Speaker 3>see pass your silly little insecurity to see that, like

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<v Speaker 3>to see that you know you're not only programming yourself

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<v Speaker 3>to feel deep about this thing that's not even that important,

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<v Speaker 3>then you don't have the level of clarity I need

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<v Speaker 3>for you to have to move through the world. Like

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<v Speaker 3>it's such a lazy way, it's such an unnecessarily damaging

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<v Speaker 3>thing to do for your own self esteem, Like self

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<v Speaker 3>deprecation is. It could be like a funny thing, but

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<v Speaker 3>like all your brain is doing is looking for patterns

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<v Speaker 3>in behavior, and it's looking to validate what you tell

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<v Speaker 3>it to be true. So like, while you may not

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<v Speaker 3>believe in the initial state, they're like, Oh, I'm so dumb.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so dumb. I'm so dumb. Your brain knows what

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<v Speaker 3>you tell it, and so why would it now work

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<v Speaker 3>over time to contradict what you've told it that is true.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm thinking, like even not even consciously, but like

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<v Speaker 3>you can challenge it now that it's new, but in

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<v Speaker 3>fifty years time you're going to be that dead weight

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<v Speaker 3>person who's like, but I can't do anything, and like

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<v Speaker 3>I can't let anything new and I can't do this

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm so dumb get it. But you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>people have their things interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very Australian thing, is they're not.

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<v Speaker 3>It's such an Australian thing. It's so lame. But again

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<v Speaker 3>it's like I have to mind myself about that because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, obviously it's a defense mechanism, it's a coping mechanism.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes a lot of sense, like you got to

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<v Speaker 3>get yourself before someone else gets you. Totally get that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I make accommodations people really care about. And if

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know you that well, I just can't have

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<v Speaker 3>to like.

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<v Speaker 2>La la la la la la la la la forget

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<v Speaker 2>turn the blind eye. What's a fatal floor you can

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<v Speaker 2>think of in myself? No, and in like friends that

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<v Speaker 2>you've been accommodating for one for me would probably be

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<v Speaker 2>when you can't handle your alcohol. Like I have a

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<v Speaker 2>friend that will get really drunk every time, and like

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, yeah, let's drink heaps of pre drinks, let's

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<v Speaker 2>get and then it's so drunk that they can't enjoy themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>I find that to be a bit of a fatal floor. Yeah, nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing worse than having a messy friend you're gonna take

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<v Speaker 2>care of.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's tricky because I feel like because I didn't drink,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even really drink now, but I'm always a

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<v Speaker 3>sober friend, and I'm like, this is just how drunk

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<v Speaker 3>people act, do you know, Like I just expect that,

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<v Speaker 3>like it could manifest one of four way is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be really aggressive, really happy, really sloppy, really chatty.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's just you being drunk.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your least favorite of those?

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<v Speaker 3>Sloppy in terms of like if you can't see when

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<v Speaker 3>things are dangerous, Like I don't mind sloppy, silly or

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<v Speaker 3>it's like I just did a silly thing. I'm so

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<v Speaker 3>silly or whatever, but sloppy and silly where it's like

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<v Speaker 3>you're about to fall downstairs, babe, or like you're hanging

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<v Speaker 3>out of a car, like get it together, you can

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<v Speaker 3>pull it, you can rein it in for your own safety.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's when they inadvertently make you responsible for them.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like I didn't sign up to be your keeper.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, now, we're grown.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not on a wage a way, send an invoice

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<v Speaker 2>the next day for my obates.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm trying to think of another one, like people

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<v Speaker 2>were overly negative. Yeah, that's a really hard one, especially

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<v Speaker 2>when you know they're kind of like anxious, or it's

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<v Speaker 2>really hard when someone's trying to not be a certain way,

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<v Speaker 2>like whether they're going to therapy or decide they don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to be a certain way, but they still fall

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<v Speaker 2>into that pattern. That's hard.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is a tricky one because like I see

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<v Speaker 3>the work you're putting in, put it in quicker, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not enough. But the negative thing is another one. I

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<v Speaker 3>make adjustments forward close friends, but with new people, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't I refuse to tell you that your reality

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<v Speaker 3>isn't true anymore. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>if you truly believe this how the world is, it's

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<v Speaker 3>how the world works, then unless I have a stake

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<v Speaker 3>in our relationship, I'm not doing it. Like, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>care if it contradicts what I think. It's all good

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<v Speaker 3>lips of sealed. It's just too much. You sign yourself

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<v Speaker 3>up for stuff that you can't handle. But I do

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<v Speaker 3>agree the point that Tinks made, especially we get to

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<v Speaker 3>the point where if it's bothering you so much, it's

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<v Speaker 3>now your problem. Yeah yeah, yeah, So like you got

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<v Speaker 3>to figure out what's the rehabilitation and what we're doing?

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<v Speaker 3>How you what's the program you've created to resolve what's

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<v Speaker 3>happening here? Because that one thing, like when I hear

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<v Speaker 3>people complain about their friends, and like, I've heard this

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<v Speaker 3>story before, So what are you to do about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>What am I meant to do? Like, she's grown? Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>exactly what are you meant to do about she's grown? Hibit?

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<v Speaker 2>Move on?

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<v Speaker 3>Move on?

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<v Speaker 2>Sick of hearing about it? Anyway, Sanks Tinks always love

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<v Speaker 2>her little not even her little always love her social commentary.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, I haven't seen her on my for you page

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<v Speaker 3>in I would say.

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<v Speaker 2>Years, I'm on the instadgum watching the stories and one.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I understand you're a rich mum.

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<v Speaker 1>I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm priming myself to be not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about a bit of a moral dilemma

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<v Speaker 2>the other day, totally unprovoked. This didn't happen to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're thinking off the clock, and I was wondering

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<v Speaker 2>about Okay, let's say you're with a group of friends

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<v Speaker 2>and you're going to the beach, going a Bondai beach. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>me always trying to bring bond Eye into conversations. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not even Mike community. Anyway, You go there, parking's twelve

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<v Speaker 2>dollars an hour. You decide, I'm just gonna wing it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to pay for a park. You get

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<v Speaker 2>back to the car, you're a parking fine naturally, And okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you think it's the driver of the car that should

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<v Speaker 2>get it. But what if everyone else in the car

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<v Speaker 2>was egging them on and saying, oh yeah, nah, let's

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<v Speaker 2>just get it. Don't worry about the ticket. Whose responsibility

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<v Speaker 2>is it to pay? You tell me, I think, don't

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<v Speaker 2>pretend you're thinking about that. You post on this topic because.

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<v Speaker 3>You knew what your answer was. Let us have it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the driver's responsibility. It's your car. If

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<v Speaker 2>I was the driver and everybody paid me, I think, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's so nice, But I'd feel like a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a grub.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is a real situation. Have you experienced this?

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<v Speaker 1>Nah?

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<v Speaker 2>Be sure, no, no. But the other day a woman

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<v Speaker 2>came over and she parked. I'm like, I'll pay for

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<v Speaker 2>your parking. She's like, nah, I'll never buy parking.

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<v Speaker 3>Why did you want to pay for a parking?

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<v Speaker 2>She was doing a favor for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the way you A woman came over and then

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<v Speaker 3>I said, is it a friend? It's like, what is happening?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Woman?

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<v Speaker 2>Mysterious?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. In this instance, if I was driving the car

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<v Speaker 3>for a bunch of friends and we had to park somewhere,

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<v Speaker 3>I would pay for parking. Le's number one because I

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<v Speaker 3>the thing that I'm learning in like in my maturation,

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<v Speaker 3>is that I'm not the exception to the rule. So

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<v Speaker 3>every time I get that little king of like, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>I too can break the rules. When things will work out,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not worth the risk. I don't want to pay

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred dollars two hundred dollars. I just pay for

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<v Speaker 3>the ticket. I would not ask for people to split

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<v Speaker 3>that ticket because I like the convenience of having the

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<v Speaker 3>car and the petrol and it takes places. If we

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<v Speaker 3>got a ticket, though, I would still pay it, and

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't expect anyone else to pay it to me,

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<v Speaker 3>because pear pressure is lame. When you're an.

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<v Speaker 2>Adult, m sill what happens?

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, but even so, grow one or a pair whichever,

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<v Speaker 3>grow what whatever you want it to be, Grow some resolve,

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<v Speaker 3>like this whole idea of like, yeah, but you were

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<v Speaker 3>all egging me on, and I did it because you

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<v Speaker 3>guys said this is come on now. We learned this

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<v Speaker 3>in prime. I'm school. If they're all jumping off the bridge,

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<v Speaker 3>you say, I'll see you down there, and you know, drump,

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<v Speaker 3>you say, right where you are, you call mom, Mom,

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<v Speaker 3>come and get me. They're being weird again. They jumped

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<v Speaker 3>so hectic. Look, I think it's a good Morrow's level

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<v Speaker 3>to have because I think it would happen more often

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<v Speaker 3>than not. And I'm so sure that there are so

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<v Speaker 3>many people who would say you split it four ways

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<v Speaker 3>or however many people are in the car, you would

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<v Speaker 3>split it, oh, depending on the month, And I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>surprised by that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really not listening to Flex and frooms Okada.

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<v Speaker 3>Thankfully for me, we've got small b real slander, because

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<v Speaker 3>honestly the app is fine. It's whatever the conversation around it, though,

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<v Speaker 3>I just think to myself, sure you hear what you're

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<v Speaker 3>saying at this moment. But thankfully for me, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>my time to rant on the internet because somebody has

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<v Speaker 3>sent me a voice memo with their own be real

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<v Speaker 3>rant and I'm just here to share it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the name. I'm but a messenger, Tiagan.

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<v Speaker 5>Flex flex Flex and I saw and I have noticed

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<v Speaker 5>in the last couple of days a few people like

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<v Speaker 5>reposting their be reels on Instagram for what I think

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<v Speaker 5>is only because it's a be real or something cool.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm wondering if this, like a coole be real

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<v Speaker 5>thing is now infiltrating into Instagram as like a highlight

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<v Speaker 5>reel of the be Real. Anyway, after that you know

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<v Speaker 5>episode that you guys it the other day about I

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<v Speaker 5>was thinking that be Real is, you know, a more

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<v Speaker 5>wholesome sort of page. I feel like it might transcend

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<v Speaker 5>into Instagram and become like this highlight reel of the

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<v Speaker 5>be Reels, but the actual true be with be Reels

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<v Speaker 5>will stay on that particular page.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, beautiful tone of voice. Yeah, love love taking a voice.

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<v Speaker 2>She was sangled on this radio show.

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<v Speaker 3>So from my understanding, Tigan's kind of saying the whole

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<v Speaker 3>ethos of be Reels to have a honest, candid moment

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<v Speaker 3>on the app just for that time, for that ecosystem

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<v Speaker 3>of your friends, and then you leave that there. People

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<v Speaker 3>are praising be real for an attitude that they won't

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<v Speaker 3>carry into the app by taking what you're meant to

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<v Speaker 3>be doing on be real and putting it on the

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<v Speaker 3>platform that you hate. Because it's all of these things.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a highlight reel to curate it, it's this and that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a contradictory thing because it's never really the platforms

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<v Speaker 3>to begin with. We are the sum of the platforms.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything you hate about Instagram is what you directly invested

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<v Speaker 3>your time and energy into. Everything that you love about

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<v Speaker 3>Instagram is what you directly invested your time and energy into.

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<v Speaker 3>Assuming that this mass exodus to a new platform without

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<v Speaker 3>the consideration of how your behaviors impact the platform will

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<v Speaker 3>just mean that be Real will just turn into the

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<v Speaker 3>new Instagram. I will say, oh, I was never the

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<v Speaker 3>one that said be Real is the antidote to Instagram.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're completely different apps for different purposes. I

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<v Speaker 3>will say I'm guilty of reposting the bur real to

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<v Speaker 3>the Instagram. For example, I was out for dinner with

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<v Speaker 3>Ginger and Carmen Melbourne and Australian icons, women who post

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<v Speaker 3>videos of themselves getting up to escapades, absolute icons. Of course,

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<v Speaker 3>if the b real goes on and I'm in an

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely iconic situation, I'm gonna have to Reshare it have to?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't do it every time. The other day I

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<v Speaker 2>was in a very very much more just as exciting

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<v Speaker 2>scenario with very very well known Australian Australian is a

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<v Speaker 2>year no less. Did it stay on the be Real?

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<v Speaker 2>It did?

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<v Speaker 3>Why is that? Because even knowing that distinction of what

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<v Speaker 3>you will and won't share to the other platform, it's

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<v Speaker 3>still like buying into what Instagram is about, picking and choosing,

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<v Speaker 3>cherry picking the moment's worth sharing. You are, in turn

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<v Speaker 3>making Instagram stay a highlight reel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're right, but I'm fine with Instagram being a

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<v Speaker 2>highlight amazing. I'm just yeah, yeah, thankfully for all of us.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not done with the bee real slander. You're one

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<v Speaker 3>person I've convinced. I've got eight billion to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Go away, everybody. Just get your friends on be reel,

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<v Speaker 2>have a fun time, like post a few bur reals

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<v Speaker 2>on the Instagram. Just let everyone know you're on the app,

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<v Speaker 2>and then just have a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 3>I am Flex. You might know me from your dreams

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<v Speaker 3>and nightmares.

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<v Speaker 2>My name's through me. I preside on the Internet, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course I've been on here since two thousand and four.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd say it's a full time person on the Internet.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why I have been looking back into the

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<v Speaker 2>ether at the best early Internet videos of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's hard to believe, but before two thousand and five,

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube didn't exist.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It became public two thousand and five with the first video,

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<v Speaker 2>which was Me at the Zoo. It's a man doing

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<v Speaker 2>a vlog at the zoo, about thirty seconds long.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you work there?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's just a guy going to the zoo. WHOA

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember YouTube when it was like cat videos? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>do you remember that? Not really? Anyway, I was doing

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<v Speaker 2>a retrospective. I did a newsletter on this about the

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<v Speaker 2>best early Internet videos. Do you remember shoes?

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<v Speaker 3>No, even when you were when you were collating information

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<v Speaker 3>about these things, I just was not across it. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think I was on the Internet. I was just

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<v Speaker 3>playing SIMS and downloading music on LimeWire.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't on I.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't see Internet. I just had access to And I

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<v Speaker 3>think I was on MSN.

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<v Speaker 2>For I, but you weren't in the trenches.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't looking on browsers for all. I was playing

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<v Speaker 3>games on browsers, like big Fish games and Neopets and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if we ever cross paths in Neopets likely

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<v Speaker 3>imagine hab a hotel going on the same party. But

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<v Speaker 3>even that habit was like too hectic for me. I'm like, cute,

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<v Speaker 3>sheltered baby. I was like, I want to play with

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<v Speaker 3>the animals. I don't want to talk to potential old

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<v Speaker 3>men on the internet.

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