Speaker 1: The Flex and Frooms Daily Podcast.
Speaker 2: We are Flex and Frooms and today we are talking
Speaker 2: about the fatal friendship floor.
Speaker 3: We love f's here, love to get out a Flex
Speaker 3: and frooms. Fatal friendship floor. That's some good alliteration. We
Speaker 3: didn't come up with this term ourselves. I actually wrote
Speaker 3: about fatal flaws in my book The Success Experiment Get
Speaker 3: It Weekend. But I do think that people like to
Speaker 3: avoid the topic because it feels a bit finite, right,
Speaker 3: like things have to be done. It's fatal, it's dead,
Speaker 3: you can't come back for it. But I just think
Speaker 3: the more we allow ourselves comfortable with the fact that
Speaker 3: sometimes things are treacherous and then you deal with them,
Speaker 3: like sometimes you just have a friend who is terrible
Speaker 3: in this one area and that's just the fact.
Speaker 2: Now brunch plants. Yeah, okay, let's get to it a
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Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms.
Speaker 3: I got this DM very simple. Have you ever broken
Speaker 3: up with a friend. If you were ever to be
Speaker 3: the receiver of a friend breakup, would you prefer to
Speaker 3: be ghosted eventually phase out or would you prefer clean
Speaker 3: breakup with reasons and closure?
Speaker 2: Well, why not? Already straight up reasons enclosure, Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: hit me over the head with it and then be gone.
Speaker 3: I'm of the opinion that if someone is so frustrated
Speaker 3: with you that a breakup is required, they've tried to
Speaker 3: be communicative, they've tried to reason with you, they've tried
Speaker 3: to get the message through. It's not worked, hence the breakup.
Speaker 2: Right, Maybe you've just finished, like paths, one of you's
Speaker 2: holding on because they don't have any other friends. This
Speaker 2: could be a plethora of reasons.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would just assume if a breakup was necessary,
Speaker 3: it would be off the back of something quite bad
Speaker 3: bad or like necessary to cut it, because I think
Speaker 3: if I have a friend, unless we've just naturally drifted
Speaker 3: because of time, you're gonna be around in the proofheral somewhere.
Speaker 3: If a breakup like a proper like romantic, Hey, we
Speaker 3: need to talk. This is what I'm feeling. It's done,
Speaker 3: like we're out of each other's lives, I would assume
Speaker 3: it's for a good reason. Otherwise just sort it out.
Speaker 3: But I haven't broken up with a friend before because
Speaker 3: the times I tried it just wasn't received. Like I
Speaker 3: don't think people take very well to like really candid
Speaker 3: and like mature conversation, it can go badly. They're kind
Speaker 3: of like okay, like relax, like you know you're taking
Speaker 3: it too seriously, or you're being too sensitive or like whatever.
Speaker 3: You just need a break or so I just do
Speaker 3: a soft ghost, and often because I think I just
Speaker 3: need more time than I realized to figure out what
Speaker 3: I think about people. And in the interim I can
Speaker 3: be cordial, I can be polite and be fun, but
Speaker 3: the long term of like do I want to exit
Speaker 3: someone for my life forever or keep them around forever?
Speaker 3: I need some time to think.
Speaker 2: It's not that cut and dry.
Speaker 3: It's not easy. It's not that simple.
Speaker 2: The ghost sounds a bit more compelling when you put
Speaker 2: it that way. But I like answers. I'd like to
Speaker 2: finish it so I don't have to put any more
Speaker 2: emotional energy into something that's not going to work out.
Speaker 2: And that's on that flex and frooms high FLEXI. So
Speaker 2: in team minus seven days, I'm going to be touching
Speaker 2: down in I'd be fucked so hot. It's the land
Speaker 2: of the Calvin Harrises, the DJ Generics, the David Greta's.
Speaker 3: I'm so excited for you. It's going to be life changing.
Speaker 2: Have you ever been? No, I don't really know anyone
Speaker 2: who's been. Yeah. No, it's a random place to.
Speaker 3: Go to Europe. I'm not going to Abitha.
Speaker 2: But like, well, I just figured I'm doing all the year.
Speaker 2: I'm in London, I'm in Paris, Amsterdam, had to throw
Speaker 2: something a rogan there something beachside. You're into continental, babe,
Speaker 2: I really am. It costs actually so much to go
Speaker 2: between cities. I realize thousands dear to me, in this economy,
Speaker 2: weird ass.
Speaker 3: Nothing is cheap when it comes to travel. That's why
Speaker 3: I'm so surprised people like, yeah, I did your for
Speaker 3: ten K. I'm like, ow, you're gone for.
Speaker 2: Three months, three months for ten k. Yeah we did
Speaker 2: that when we were nineteen kind of thing.
Speaker 3: There was no wi. I was, I'm always traveling lucks
Speaker 3: and like I'm going to go one place, ball out
Speaker 3: come back.
Speaker 2: Well, I've actually never been to Europe, so.
Speaker 3: Now is the time. Remember you told me you were
Speaker 3: Swedish and I believed you.
Speaker 2: You put that on me. I've never said I'm sweeting you.
Speaker 3: Literally, I said, I said, are you Swedish? And you're like,
Speaker 3: it's the blonde hair of course, and I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: makes sense.
Speaker 2: Anyone with two brain cells. No, this is a bleach
Speaker 2: job hunt, wouldn't you.
Speaker 3: I don't know. This is Caucasian activities anyway, keeping out
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm going to Europe and I'm hoping to interview
Speaker 2: David Gueta. So David Weta in Ibetha.
Speaker 3: And what have you sent an email? Have you pulled
Speaker 3: some strings? Like yeah, it's gonna cost him from the
Speaker 3: front row.
Speaker 2: I started the Ibetha like propaganda on my Instagram a
Speaker 2: few months ago, and someone from his label will hear
Speaker 2: me up like a friend of mine, and said, do
Speaker 2: you want to interview him? And I said yes? Anyway,
Speaker 2: links didn't link up in the ah, so I went
Speaker 2: ahead and I bought tickets for me and my friends
Speaker 2: to see David Wedda at Wayosha on October third, eighty
Speaker 2: eight dollars euro eighty eight euro. She loves giving out
Speaker 2: time to day it's details. Well, okay, it's a massive bub.
Speaker 2: No one's gonna see me. If you do, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be my best life. So I'm happy to be witnessed. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I was thinking, if I do get the chance to
Speaker 2: interview him, what would you ask flex? Because I know
Speaker 2: we've discussed interviews before and often they can be quite lame.
Speaker 3: Yeah, most of them are. I just want to find
Speaker 3: out the stuff that makes someone feel like a real person,
Speaker 3: Like I just every like, what's your inspiration? Where did
Speaker 3: the name for the song come from? I'm like it
Speaker 3: just like all that stuff is contrived and the sum
Speaker 3: of your PR team and your managers and your creative
Speaker 3: people who are like, we need to do this vibe
Speaker 3: for someone I don't know, like I want to see.
Speaker 3: I want to know, like if he likes his pillows soft,
Speaker 3: firm or like medium?
Speaker 2: Why do you eat for breakfast?
Speaker 3: No? Boring? Really, every time I get asked in an interview,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I didn't eat breakfast.
Speaker 2: You get asked out a lot.
Speaker 3: So often, like the first question, it's like the ice
Speaker 3: breakery one where I'm like, I think if I wasn't
Speaker 3: an interview. No, I think it's a double whammy. It's
Speaker 3: having been interviewed and it's having interviewed people where I'm like,
Speaker 3: I can see how it's lame on both sides, and
Speaker 3: you'll know, like if you ask celebrities like what question
Speaker 3: do you hate being answered. It's the ones that they
Speaker 3: get asked all the time.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's how I can start the interview. So what
Speaker 2: is your most hated interview question?
Speaker 3: But then how do you follow up from that? Because
Speaker 3: you put pressure on the next question you asked you like,
Speaker 3: what do you want for breakfast?
Speaker 2: On that anyway, Okay, you've been totally not helpful, But
Speaker 2: I look for that.
Speaker 3: That's not what I'm here to do. That's not what
Speaker 3: I'm here to do. We all have our roles.
Speaker 2: I look forward to sharing all of my photos with
Speaker 2: you from my BEFA.
Speaker 3: Well, what I think would be really controversial the fact
Speaker 3: that you're going with a friend, and you know everybody
Speaker 3: says you shouldn't travel with friends through me. Will there
Speaker 3: be a friendship breakup? Yeah, probably knows.
Speaker 2: That's fine. We've had break us. But my friend and I,
Speaker 2: oh really, we have hard conversations constantly earlier in the relationship.
Speaker 2: Actually we did.
Speaker 1: This is flex and frooms on DA.
Speaker 3: I have come across this theory called the fatal friendship floor.
Speaker 3: Listen to this video. It is going to blow your mind.
Speaker 3: If it doesn't money back guarantee.
Speaker 4: It's more of a rule than a theory. But I
Speaker 4: think that every single one of your close or best
Speaker 4: friends has a fatal flaw. Maybe they're insecure, maybe they're
Speaker 4: really attention seeking around boys. Whatever it is, once you
Speaker 4: identify it, have to accept it. When I was growing up,
Speaker 4: I had this friend and she was a liar. The
Speaker 4: lies didn't hurt anybody, but they were big lies, and
Speaker 4: I would complain to my mom about it all the time,
Speaker 4: and eventually she was like, enough, if this is part
Speaker 4: of her personality, you have to accept it or don't
Speaker 4: be friends with her anymore.
Speaker 3: And so was born my rule.
Speaker 4: Once you identify your close friend's fatal flaw, anytime it
Speaker 4: flares up, you can't be triggered by it because you
Speaker 4: have to accept that that's their fatal flaw. So say
Speaker 4: that they're really insecure, and you identify that, and then
Speaker 4: one day they call you and they're like, I don't
Speaker 4: know which dress to wear and they keep you on
Speaker 4: the phone for half an hour. You have to view
Speaker 4: that as a write off under the fatal flaw clause.
Speaker 4: And if the fatal flaw bothers you enough, then you
Speaker 4: have to demote them to a less close friend. The
Speaker 4: silliest thing is if you are consistently triggered by your
Speaker 4: friend's fatal flaw, either accept it or demote them, or
Speaker 4: you'll drive yourself crazy.
Speaker 2: Is that tinks?
Speaker 3: It's tinks. Wow, it's tinks. I stand by that one
Speaker 3: because there's a lot of behaviors that I can see
Speaker 3: in a lot of my close friends I would not
Speaker 3: tolerate from someone I wasn't close with that I don't
Speaker 3: have love for, But in the context of them, I'm like,
Speaker 3: it'll do like a big one. Is I'm really off
Speaker 3: about self deprecation. I really hate it, like it like
Speaker 3: not only frustrates me, because I'm like, if you cannot
Speaker 3: see pass your silly little insecurity to see that, like
Speaker 3: to see that you know you're not only programming yourself
Speaker 3: to feel deep about this thing that's not even that important,
Speaker 3: then you don't have the level of clarity I need
Speaker 3: for you to have to move through the world. Like
Speaker 3: it's such a lazy way, it's such an unnecessarily damaging
Speaker 3: thing to do for your own self esteem, Like self
Speaker 3: deprecation is. It could be like a funny thing, but
Speaker 3: like all your brain is doing is looking for patterns
Speaker 3: in behavior, and it's looking to validate what you tell
Speaker 3: it to be true. So like, while you may not
Speaker 3: believe in the initial state, they're like, Oh, I'm so dumb.
Speaker 3: I'm so dumb. I'm so dumb. Your brain knows what
Speaker 3: you tell it, and so why would it now work
Speaker 3: over time to contradict what you've told it that is true.
Speaker 3: So I'm thinking, like even not even consciously, but like
Speaker 3: you can challenge it now that it's new, but in
Speaker 3: fifty years time you're going to be that dead weight
Speaker 3: person who's like, but I can't do anything, and like
Speaker 3: I can't let anything new and I can't do this
Speaker 3: because I'm so dumb get it. But you know, like
Speaker 3: people have their things interesting.
Speaker 2: It's a very Australian thing, is they're not.
Speaker 3: It's such an Australian thing. It's so lame. But again
Speaker 3: it's like I have to mind myself about that because
Speaker 3: I'm like, obviously it's a defense mechanism, it's a coping mechanism.
Speaker 3: It makes a lot of sense, like you got to
Speaker 3: get yourself before someone else gets you. Totally get that.
Speaker 3: And I make accommodations people really care about. And if
Speaker 3: I don't know you that well, I just can't have
Speaker 3: to like.
Speaker 2: La la la la la la la la la forget
Speaker 2: turn the blind eye. What's a fatal floor you can
Speaker 2: think of in myself? No, and in like friends that
Speaker 2: you've been accommodating for one for me would probably be
Speaker 2: when you can't handle your alcohol. Like I have a
Speaker 2: friend that will get really drunk every time, and like
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, let's drink heaps of pre drinks, let's
Speaker 2: get and then it's so drunk that they can't enjoy themselves.
Speaker 2: I find that to be a bit of a fatal floor. Yeah, nothing,
Speaker 2: nothing worse than having a messy friend you're gonna take
Speaker 2: care of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tricky because I feel like because I didn't drink,
Speaker 3: I don't even really drink now, but I'm always a
Speaker 3: sober friend, and I'm like, this is just how drunk
Speaker 3: people act, do you know, Like I just expect that,
Speaker 3: like it could manifest one of four way is going
Speaker 3: to be really aggressive, really happy, really sloppy, really chatty.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's just you being drunk.
Speaker 2: What's your least favorite of those?
Speaker 3: Sloppy in terms of like if you can't see when
Speaker 3: things are dangerous, Like I don't mind sloppy, silly or
Speaker 3: it's like I just did a silly thing. I'm so
Speaker 3: silly or whatever, but sloppy and silly where it's like
Speaker 3: you're about to fall downstairs, babe, or like you're hanging
Speaker 3: out of a car, like get it together, you can
Speaker 3: pull it, you can rein it in for your own safety.
Speaker 3: And it's when they inadvertently make you responsible for them.
Speaker 3: It's like I didn't sign up to be your keeper.
Speaker 3: Come on, now, we're grown.
Speaker 2: I'm not on a wage a way, send an invoice
Speaker 2: the next day for my obates.
Speaker 3: Literally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to think of another one, like people
Speaker 2: were overly negative. Yeah, that's a really hard one, especially
Speaker 2: when you know they're kind of like anxious, or it's
Speaker 2: really hard when someone's trying to not be a certain way,
Speaker 2: like whether they're going to therapy or decide they don't
Speaker 2: want to be a certain way, but they still fall
Speaker 2: into that pattern. That's hard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a tricky one because like I see
Speaker 3: the work you're putting in, put it in quicker, it's
Speaker 3: not enough. But the negative thing is another one. I
Speaker 3: make adjustments forward close friends, but with new people, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I can't I refuse to tell you that your reality
Speaker 3: isn't true anymore. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: if you truly believe this how the world is, it's
Speaker 3: how the world works, then unless I have a stake
Speaker 3: in our relationship, I'm not doing it. Like, I don't
Speaker 3: care if it contradicts what I think. It's all good
Speaker 3: lips of sealed. It's just too much. You sign yourself
Speaker 3: up for stuff that you can't handle. But I do
Speaker 3: agree the point that Tinks made, especially we get to
Speaker 3: the point where if it's bothering you so much, it's
Speaker 3: now your problem. Yeah yeah, yeah, So like you got
Speaker 3: to figure out what's the rehabilitation and what we're doing?
Speaker 3: How you what's the program you've created to resolve what's
Speaker 3: happening here? Because that one thing, like when I hear
Speaker 3: people complain about their friends, and like, I've heard this
Speaker 3: story before, So what are you to do about it?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: What am I meant to do? Like, she's grown? Okay,
Speaker 3: exactly what are you meant to do about she's grown? Hibit?
Speaker 2: Move on?
Speaker 3: Move on?
Speaker 2: Sick of hearing about it? Anyway, Sanks Tinks always love
Speaker 2: her little not even her little always love her social commentary.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I haven't seen her on my for you page
Speaker 3: in I would say.
Speaker 2: Years, I'm on the instadgum watching the stories and one.
Speaker 3: Oh, I understand you're a rich mum.
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 2: I'm priming myself to be not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: This is flex and frooms.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about a bit of a moral dilemma
Speaker 2: the other day, totally unprovoked. This didn't happen to me.
Speaker 2: Now you're thinking off the clock, and I was wondering
Speaker 2: about Okay, let's say you're with a group of friends
Speaker 2: and you're going to the beach, going a Bondai beach. Okay,
Speaker 2: me always trying to bring bond Eye into conversations. It's
Speaker 2: not even Mike community. Anyway, You go there, parking's twelve
Speaker 2: dollars an hour. You decide, I'm just gonna wing it.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to pay for a park. You get
Speaker 2: back to the car, you're a parking fine naturally, And okay,
Speaker 2: you think it's the driver of the car that should
Speaker 2: get it. But what if everyone else in the car
Speaker 2: was egging them on and saying, oh yeah, nah, let's
Speaker 2: just get it. Don't worry about the ticket. Whose responsibility
Speaker 2: is it to pay? You tell me, I think, don't
Speaker 2: pretend you're thinking about that. You post on this topic because.
Speaker 3: You knew what your answer was. Let us have it.
Speaker 2: I think it's the driver's responsibility. It's your car. If
Speaker 2: I was the driver and everybody paid me, I think, well,
Speaker 2: that's so nice, But I'd feel like a bit of
Speaker 2: a grub.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a real situation. Have you experienced this?
Speaker 1: Nah?
Speaker 2: Be sure, no, no. But the other day a woman
Speaker 2: came over and she parked. I'm like, I'll pay for
Speaker 2: your parking. She's like, nah, I'll never buy parking.
Speaker 3: Why did you want to pay for a parking?
Speaker 2: She was doing a favor for me.
Speaker 3: Is the way you A woman came over and then
Speaker 3: I said, is it a friend? It's like, what is happening?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Woman?
Speaker 2: Mysterious?
Speaker 3: Yeah. In this instance, if I was driving the car
Speaker 3: for a bunch of friends and we had to park somewhere,
Speaker 3: I would pay for parking. Le's number one because I
Speaker 3: the thing that I'm learning in like in my maturation,
Speaker 3: is that I'm not the exception to the rule. So
Speaker 3: every time I get that little king of like, maybe
Speaker 3: I too can break the rules. When things will work out,
Speaker 3: it's not worth the risk. I don't want to pay
Speaker 3: one hundred dollars two hundred dollars. I just pay for
Speaker 3: the ticket. I would not ask for people to split
Speaker 3: that ticket because I like the convenience of having the
Speaker 3: car and the petrol and it takes places. If we
Speaker 3: got a ticket, though, I would still pay it, and
Speaker 3: I wouldn't expect anyone else to pay it to me,
Speaker 3: because pear pressure is lame. When you're an.
Speaker 2: Adult, m sill what happens?
Speaker 3: So yeah, but even so, grow one or a pair whichever,
Speaker 3: grow what whatever you want it to be, Grow some resolve,
Speaker 3: like this whole idea of like, yeah, but you were
Speaker 3: all egging me on, and I did it because you
Speaker 3: guys said this is come on now. We learned this
Speaker 3: in prime. I'm school. If they're all jumping off the bridge,
Speaker 3: you say, I'll see you down there, and you know, drump,
Speaker 3: you say, right where you are, you call mom, Mom,
Speaker 3: come and get me. They're being weird again. They jumped
Speaker 3: so hectic. Look, I think it's a good Morrow's level
Speaker 3: to have because I think it would happen more often
Speaker 3: than not. And I'm so sure that there are so
Speaker 3: many people who would say you split it four ways
Speaker 3: or however many people are in the car, you would
Speaker 3: split it, oh, depending on the month, And I'm not
Speaker 3: surprised by that.
Speaker 1: I'm really not listening to Flex and frooms Okada.
Speaker 3: Thankfully for me, we've got small b real slander, because
Speaker 3: honestly the app is fine. It's whatever the conversation around it, though,
Speaker 3: I just think to myself, sure you hear what you're
Speaker 3: saying at this moment. But thankfully for me, it's not
Speaker 3: my time to rant on the internet because somebody has
Speaker 3: sent me a voice memo with their own be real
Speaker 3: rant and I'm just here to share it.
Speaker 2: That's the name. I'm but a messenger, Tiagan.
Speaker 5: Flex flex Flex and I saw and I have noticed
Speaker 5: in the last couple of days a few people like
Speaker 5: reposting their be reels on Instagram for what I think
Speaker 5: is only because it's a be real or something cool.
Speaker 5: So I'm wondering if this, like a coole be real
Speaker 5: thing is now infiltrating into Instagram as like a highlight
Speaker 5: reel of the be Real. Anyway, after that you know
Speaker 5: episode that you guys it the other day about I
Speaker 5: was thinking that be Real is, you know, a more
Speaker 5: wholesome sort of page. I feel like it might transcend
Speaker 5: into Instagram and become like this highlight reel of the
Speaker 5: be Reels, but the actual true be with be Reels
Speaker 5: will stay on that particular page.
Speaker 2: Wow, beautiful tone of voice. Yeah, love love taking a voice.
Speaker 2: She was sangled on this radio show.
Speaker 3: So from my understanding, Tigan's kind of saying the whole
Speaker 3: ethos of be Reels to have a honest, candid moment
Speaker 3: on the app just for that time, for that ecosystem
Speaker 3: of your friends, and then you leave that there. People
Speaker 3: are praising be real for an attitude that they won't
Speaker 3: carry into the app by taking what you're meant to
Speaker 3: be doing on be real and putting it on the
Speaker 3: platform that you hate. Because it's all of these things.
Speaker 3: It's a highlight reel to curate it, it's this and that.
Speaker 3: It's a contradictory thing because it's never really the platforms
Speaker 3: to begin with. We are the sum of the platforms.
Speaker 3: Everything you hate about Instagram is what you directly invested
Speaker 3: your time and energy into. Everything that you love about
Speaker 3: Instagram is what you directly invested your time and energy into.
Speaker 3: Assuming that this mass exodus to a new platform without
Speaker 3: the consideration of how your behaviors impact the platform will
Speaker 3: just mean that be Real will just turn into the
Speaker 3: new Instagram. I will say, oh, I was never the
Speaker 3: one that said be Real is the antidote to Instagram.
Speaker 3: I think they're completely different apps for different purposes. I
Speaker 3: will say I'm guilty of reposting the bur real to
Speaker 3: the Instagram. For example, I was out for dinner with
Speaker 3: Ginger and Carmen Melbourne and Australian icons, women who post
Speaker 3: videos of themselves getting up to escapades, absolute icons. Of course,
Speaker 3: if the b real goes on and I'm in an
Speaker 3: absolutely iconic situation, I'm gonna have to Reshare it have to?
Speaker 2: I don't do it every time. The other day I
Speaker 2: was in a very very much more just as exciting
Speaker 2: scenario with very very well known Australian Australian is a
Speaker 2: year no less. Did it stay on the be Real?
Speaker 2: It did?
Speaker 3: Why is that? Because even knowing that distinction of what
Speaker 3: you will and won't share to the other platform, it's
Speaker 3: still like buying into what Instagram is about, picking and choosing,
Speaker 3: cherry picking the moment's worth sharing. You are, in turn
Speaker 3: making Instagram stay a highlight reel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, but I'm fine with Instagram being a
Speaker 2: highlight amazing. I'm just yeah, yeah, thankfully for all of us.
Speaker 3: I'm not done with the bee real slander. You're one
Speaker 3: person I've convinced. I've got eight billion to go.
Speaker 2: Go away, everybody. Just get your friends on be reel,
Speaker 2: have a fun time, like post a few bur reals
Speaker 2: on the Instagram. Just let everyone know you're on the app,
Speaker 2: and then just have a good time.
Speaker 1: Flex and frooms.
Speaker 3: I am Flex. You might know me from your dreams
Speaker 3: and nightmares.
Speaker 2: My name's through me. I preside on the Internet, and
Speaker 2: of course I've been on here since two thousand and four.
Speaker 2: I'd say it's a full time person on the Internet.
Speaker 2: And that's why I have been looking back into the
Speaker 2: ether at the best early Internet videos of all time.
Speaker 2: Now it's hard to believe, but before two thousand and five,
Speaker 2: YouTube didn't exist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: It became public two thousand and five with the first video,
Speaker 2: which was Me at the Zoo. It's a man doing
Speaker 2: a vlog at the zoo, about thirty seconds long.
Speaker 3: Do you work there?
Speaker 2: No, it's just a guy going to the zoo. WHOA
Speaker 2: Do you remember YouTube when it was like cat videos? Yeah,
Speaker 2: do you remember that? Not really? Anyway, I was doing
Speaker 2: a retrospective. I did a newsletter on this about the
Speaker 2: best early Internet videos. Do you remember shoes?
Speaker 3: No, even when you were when you were collating information
Speaker 3: about these things, I just was not across it. I
Speaker 3: don't think I was on the Internet. I was just
Speaker 3: playing SIMS and downloading music on LimeWire.
Speaker 1: I wasn't on I.
Speaker 3: Didn't see Internet. I just had access to And I
Speaker 3: think I was on MSN.
Speaker 2: For I, but you weren't in the trenches.
Speaker 3: I wasn't looking on browsers for all. I was playing
Speaker 3: games on browsers, like big Fish games and Neopets and stuff.
Speaker 3: I wonder if we ever cross paths in Neopets likely
Speaker 3: imagine hab a hotel going on the same party. But
Speaker 3: even that habit was like too hectic for me. I'm like, cute,
Speaker 3: sheltered baby. I was like, I want to play with
Speaker 3: the animals. I don't want to talk to potential old
Speaker 3: men on the internet.
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