1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. You're dose of the hottest 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm Kate 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: Torbert and I'm joined by my sisters and journalists Amy 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: and Sophie. On today's show, Madison Wooly drops eight thousand 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: dollars on her extravagant birthday accommodation Mere Plasic rids her 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: wardrobe of designer gear she's never worn, and Sophie Monk 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: ties the knot in a secret wedding. But first, Abby 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: Chatfield and her boyfriend Conrad bn Stevens are currently jet 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: setting around. 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: Europe in style. The loved uck couple, who admit to 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: having no cloud. 12 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: Overseas, say they were shocked to discover they'd been upgraded 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: to a fifteen thousand dollars a night hotel room in Venice, 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: which overlooks the Grand Canal. 15 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: Sophie, can you tell us about this first leg of 16 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: the trip? 17 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, Abby and Conrad jetted off to Europe to 18 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: attend a friend's wedding in Scotland, and for me, the 19 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: worst part about traveling is definitely the plane ride. I 20 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: get so irrationally scared about the plane crashing and also 21 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: the facts that I'm five foot four and I still 22 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: find the seats incredibly uncomfortable. And I feel like Abby 23 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: and Conrad were living the dream because they were flying 24 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: in business class, and it was pretty funny because they 25 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: checked into the business class lounge but quickly left as 26 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: they say, they didn't really fit in, and the vibe 27 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: was way better at the airport bar. It actually reminds 28 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: me of when I went business class to Malaysia. So 29 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: my boyfriend at the time had this his brother had 30 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: a connection at Quantas, and my ex boyfriend was so 31 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 1: nervous that he made the lead up to the trip 32 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: so horrible because he kept stressing whether we were going 33 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: to get the upgrade or whether we weren't. Anyway, we 34 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: ended up getting it, and we were that couple that 35 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: everyone was like, why the hell are they here? Like 36 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: we got asked so many times on the plane, are 37 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: you guys on your honeymoon? Like? People just couldn't work 38 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: out how we had managed to get into business class, 39 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: which was fair enough because my boyfriend at the time 40 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: got so drunk that I had to actually hold his 41 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: hand and walk him off the plane at the end. 42 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: Didn't you guys get stopped from having cheese platters sent 43 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: to you as well. He got cut off having cheese platters, 44 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: so then they moved him onto bags of kettle chips, 45 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: and then they got cut off. I mean, really, you 46 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: should have been cut off from the alcohol a lot 47 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: earlier than that. I feel like it kind of would 48 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: have been a similar scene with Abby and Conrad, because 49 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: they seemed really excited to be flying business class for 50 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: the first time, and Abby shared a series of Instagram 51 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: posts showing her and Conrad kissing and enjoying champagne in 52 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: their seats. Then was a photo of Abby lying down 53 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: asleep in the chair that obviously turned into a bed, 54 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: and then Conrad standing behind the planes bar. And is 55 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: it just me or did anyone else not actually realize 56 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: that there were legitimate bars on planes because I thought 57 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: this was only something that was in movies as a 58 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: bit of a joke. No, yeah, I didn't realize that 59 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: was actually a thing. They didn't have a bar when 60 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: I traveled business class. I do recall a trip when 61 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: I traveled with the thirty six ers to Utah and 62 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: I was flying Quantus again, and I was so excited 63 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: because at the back of the plane even though I 64 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: was in economy, they had this little section where you 65 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: could get as many timtams as you want it and I. 66 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: He's so impressed by that. 67 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: After seeing Abby's instance stories, I feel like there's no 68 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: way you could go back flying economy after flying first 69 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: class or business class because it just doesn't compare. I 70 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: actually felt really happy for them both seeing how much 71 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: they actually enjoyed it, because I feel like so many 72 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: influencers or celebrities muster just take it for granted. Well, 73 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: moving onto the trip and when Abby arrived in Scotland, 74 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: she explained that she would be giving her followers live 75 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: updates on her whereabouts and accommodation in Europe, as no 76 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: one knows who she is over there, so people can't 77 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: rock up and try and find her, which happens when 78 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: she's back home in Australia. So after her friend's wedding, 79 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: Conrad and Abby flew to Venice, where followers got a 80 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: full tour of her hotel room. Now. Abby explained that 81 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: the room they originally booked was pretty expensive, but the 82 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: hotel had upgraded them to the best room in the hotel, 83 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: and she was pretty shocked to find out that the 84 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: room usually costs fifteen thousand dollars a night. Now. Abby 85 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: said she didn't know why this happened to them, because 86 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: she says she has zero clout in Italy. She said 87 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: she thinks it might have been something that was random, 88 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: or perhaps happened because her travel agent might have pulled 89 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: some strings. And I totally think that the travel agent 90 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: sent a sneaky screenshot of Abby and Conrad's following, because 91 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: I'm sure this wasn't a random incident. I mean, I've 92 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: never randomly been upgraded to any sort of hotel room 93 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: like this. Do you think it's because not as many 94 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: people are traveling though? No, this is because of their following. 95 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: Maybe they tagged the hotel in something and they had 96 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: to look at her page and saw she had so 97 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: many followers. This reminds me sory. So many travel stories 98 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: are popping up. It's making me miss traveling so much. 99 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: But remember in Penang, I literally told our cousins, yeah, 100 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: I've been to this accommodation, you know, eight or ten times, 101 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: will get a really good room. And I had to 102 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: like pull some strings to just get from the like 103 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: not on the first floor. I've been here so many times. 104 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: Now you guys might be wondering, what does a fifteen 105 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a night hotel room look like. Well, the 106 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: hotel in question over looks the Grand Canal in the 107 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: heart of Venice, and the hotel dates back to fourteen 108 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: seventy five and is described as a place of exceptional 109 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: art and elegance, where multiple generations of elite global influencers 110 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: gather to explore, taste and celebrate. And I thought the 111 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: last line about global influences was quite interesting because I 112 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: did go and have a look at their Instagram page 113 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: which Abby tagged, and it has over forty eight thousand followers. 114 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: So clearly the marketing team at the hotel has a 115 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: good grasp of how to generate extra exposure for themselves, 116 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: and I think that's why Abby and Conrad are staying 117 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: at this hotel. It's interesting because this marketing technique is 118 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: the complete opposite to the Carlisle Hotel in Brisbane, which 119 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: basically doesn't allow influencers to tag them in anything and 120 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: is very over the top about how their hotel is perceived. 121 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: On the Internet. 122 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that these people are wanting her to post and 123 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: she definitely did. She did this full tour, so The 124 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: suite consisted of a lounge room, large bedroom on suite, 125 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: and a spare bathroom. And when you look out the 126 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: window in the lounge room and bedroom, you literally come 127 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: face to face with the gondolas. 128 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 2: It was incredible. 129 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: I never knew that views like this existed in hotels. 130 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: And it's got this really expensive and historic looking artwork 131 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: all over the rooms. It's filled with antique furniture, chandeliers, 132 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: it's got these enormous marble bathrooms. 133 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: And I don't think Abby could quite believe that they 134 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 2: were getting to stay here. 135 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: I had a laugh because I was in Venice in 136 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen and Dale and my hotel room certainly did 137 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: not look like this. I showed Dale with the Insta 138 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: stories and we laughed because our view was like. 139 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: This dingy view out of the window. 140 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: It looked out into this weird street. And I remember 141 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: when we arrived, we had to walk down this alleyway 142 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: and there was like vomit on the floor. And it 143 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: was just probably the most basic hotel room. Because everything 144 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: is so expensive in Venice. So when I saw this 145 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: hotel room cost fifteen thousand dollars, to be honest, it 146 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: didn't surprise me. 147 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: Because that view is. 148 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: Incredible, and honestly, Venice is probably the most beautiful city 149 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 1: I've ever been to. Well, later that night, Abby shared 150 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: that she and Conrad were at a ritzy dinner at 151 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: the hotel, and Abby said she was really confused as 152 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: the menu didn't appear to have prices on it, but 153 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: she quickly discovered that Conrad's menu had printed prices because 154 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: the assumption was that he must be the one that's 155 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: covering the bill. 156 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: I just think that's so fucked. 157 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: And it was hilarious because Abby followed it up with 158 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: this rant saying that she's the bread winner out of 159 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: the couple and that the patriarchy had struck again. And 160 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: it's pretty funny because she put up a poll asking 161 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: where the followers would prefer dinner where they were or 162 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: at Toddy's. And I mean, I think both are probably 163 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: just as difficult to get a seat or a reservation at. 164 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how good Toddies is after I heard 165 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: Madison and her friend Caitlin talking about how they've gotten 166 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: food poisoning there, so I don't think I think that's 167 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: a bit of a blight on Toddi's considering they're like 168 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: they're biggest fans in there all the time, So maybe 169 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: I'd go with the fifteen thousand Venice hotel and just 170 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: ask for two menus with the prices on it. Well. 171 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: Abby then shared a lesson that she'd learned from the trip. 172 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: She wrote, rich people and rich experiences are boring. Just 173 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: FYI get me to a gelato shop. Stat Now. We 174 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: had a few listeners writing in saying they thought it 175 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: came across as quite unappreciative of the upgrade and experience. 176 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: What do you guys think. 177 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: The thing is with the hotel decided to upgrade her 178 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: based on her following That is an exchange of services, 179 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: so they are hoping to get something out of Abby 180 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: by Abby staying in the room and hopefully promoting it, 181 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: and in turn Abby is benefiting from that service. However, 182 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: is not like she set up the agreement to promote 183 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: the hotel. The hotel has to provide a level of 184 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: service in order for her to provide an authentic review. 185 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: So I think it's fair enough that she she is 186 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: known for being a feminist, so if something at the 187 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,599 Speaker 1: hotel happened in regards to the menus being very sexist, 188 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: then I think that she's well within her rights to 189 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: talk about it. And also she has a following where 190 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: I highly doubt many people would actually be able to 191 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: afford to stay in a hotel like that, So she's 192 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: just being honest. I mean, I think it's pretty great 193 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: to hear, you know, you see how the other half 194 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: live and they're staying in these luxury hotels. But to 195 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 1: hear actually, I'd prefer just to be normal and go 196 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: down and go to the Gilati stand. I think that's 197 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: quite refreshing. 198 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 199 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: When I first saw her Insta stories, I actually thought 200 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: it was more of an attempt at Abby trying to 201 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: again be relatable, because a lot of her insiat stories 202 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: had obviously been showing everybody this amazing room and then 203 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: dining in this fancy restaurant. I actually thought she brought 204 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: everybody back to reality by saying, well, actually it wasn't 205 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: even that great. 206 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. 207 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: I think she was trying hard to appear relatable despite 208 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: the fact that she is on a very unrelatable trip. 209 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: And Abby is incredibly smart and savvy online, and I 210 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: think that she doesn't want to ostracize her following. She 211 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: wants them to know that she's one of them, and 212 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: I feel like she wants to point out to her followers, 213 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: as you said, Kate, that money isn't everything. Sometimes the 214 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: experiences that you have slumming it in a backpack hackers 215 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: are just as exciting or more profound than living it 216 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: up in some fancy restaurant. And I think it's a 217 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: really clever way to keep her audience on side, as 218 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: followers really can get their noses out of joint when 219 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: they feel like the person that they look up to 220 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: is no longer relatable or one of them. Yeah. I 221 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: think it's hard though when you're not traveling, because I 222 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: feel like at the moment wild borders are open, it's 223 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: really only influencers that seem to be making the most 224 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: out of going overseas, and it's hard not to when 225 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: you haven't been on holiday for years sit back and 226 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: watch someone being absolutely spoilt and then kind of complaining 227 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: about it. So I can see from that respect how 228 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: it would seem a little bit disrespectful when she hasn't 229 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: had to pay for the room. But again, I think 230 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: that if they if the hotel knew who Abby was 231 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: and what her platform stands for, then they would have 232 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: to respect that She's going to be completely honest about 233 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: her experience. Is it sad because I'm the person that 234 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: is vicariously living through influences on their holidays. I'm actually 235 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: thoroughly enjoying it because I personally would probably be a 236 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: bit too nervous to travel at the moment. However, I 237 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: love seeing the influences are back traveling because I feel 238 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: like I can, as I said, vicariously live through them. 239 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: Well that's like I watched Molly May's travel blog to France. 240 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I looked amazing. 241 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 1: She had to actually change hotels completely because they rocked up, 242 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: and she was too scared to stay in the hotel 243 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: because it had all these like medieval or coldrooms, and 244 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: she's like, I'm sorry, I know that I look high maintenance, 245 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: but I have to get out of here. 246 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: Michuld kind of. 247 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: Respect that, especially after she's experienced a break in at 248 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: her house. If something doesn't feel right to you in 249 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: a different country. I love how she had to get 250 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: a manager, Fran who is back in the UK organizing 251 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: herself in your room. I feel like everybody needs a 252 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: friend in their lives, and fuck, I found it ironic 253 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: that she was only happy once they got to the 254 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: Balenciaga Hotel in Paris. 255 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 2: We're traveling first class. Thank you see your boarding passes. 256 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 2: Our sun bolt is the tickets for our fortieth wedding anniversary. 257 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: Have you traveled first class before? No? I do think 258 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: you'd like him there. Slickstick owner Mia Plastic has raised 259 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: eyebrows after listing nine of her designer items for sale 260 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: on her Instagram account. The entrepreneur says she's either never 261 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: worn the items or only worn them a handful of times, 262 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: leading many to speculate, Sophie, it all seemed a little 263 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: bit odd. 264 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really peculiar. 265 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: So Mia shared a post explaining that she's cleaning out 266 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: her closet and selling some of her designer pieces that 267 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: she just doesn't wear and would love to give a 268 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: second life too. So she asked for a followers to 269 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: reply the word sold to her stories to secure an item, 270 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: and then asked for twenty dollars for tracked postage. Now. 271 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: Mia listed a total of nine designer items, and what 272 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: struck me was the amount of items she said she'd 273 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: either never worn or only worn once. So she shared 274 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: a photo of these really bright dulchy in Cabana wedges 275 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: that she wore at her thirtieth birthday, and she said 276 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: she'd worn them once and was selling She said that 277 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: she'd paid one four hundred dollars for them and was 278 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: selling them for seven hundred dollars. She then shared a 279 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: pair of one and one hundred Gucci shoes and said 280 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: she'd worn them two to three times. Now. This trend 281 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: continued with another pair of designer shoes were three three 282 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: hundred and forty four dollars, there were only worn twice 283 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: that she's now selling for one eight hundred dollars, as 284 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: well as some blue Fendy heels that had never been 285 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: worn that she's selling for five hundred dollars. And this 286 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: just makes no sense to me for someone to wear 287 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: a designer item one or two times. It just seems 288 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: so wasteful and something just doesn't quite add up. It's 289 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: a bit strange because the way I look at designer 290 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: items is that normally people save up a lot of 291 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: money to purchase them, and they usually end up going 292 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: for you know, if you're not a Kardashian, then you'll 293 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: normally go for something like a Louis Vuitton travel bag 294 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: that you're going to use a lot of times, you 295 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: don't usually pick something that is like a really on 296 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: trend item that is going to go out of fashion quickly. 297 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: Normally people buy some fast fashion item to cover for that. 298 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: So it did seem really odd, particularly her birthday shoes, 299 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: which were very like you know, with lemons on them. 300 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: It obviously fit her birthday theme, but it's not something 301 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: that's going to have a lot of longevity in your wardrobe. 302 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: But would you not just hold onto them for sentimental 303 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: reasons instead of just getting half the price for them? 304 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: But I also find it interesting that people show off 305 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: about the designer items they have on Instagram and try 306 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: to create this image of themselves, but then flog them 307 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: off on the same platform that they're trying to get 308 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: clout on for wearing said designer gear. It always seems 309 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: like a bit of a desperate move. Is if you're 310 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: strapped for cash or something, why not use deepop Yeah? 311 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: Or I mean I have seen people selling their designer 312 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: stuff if they just no longer love it anymore as well, 313 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: So who knows well Me is one of those influences 314 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: who quite often shares her purchases, and that was even 315 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: before she could afford the real deal. So in twenty sixteen, 316 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: she shared a photo of herself purchasing her first designer 317 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: bag and wrote, work hard, play harder. I've dreamt of 318 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: owning this bag for five years. After three imitations, I 319 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: finally bought the real deal now. In twenty sixteen to 320 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, Mia also used to share on 321 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: her Instagram stories and feed that she would purchase fake 322 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: designer shoes and bags from a Chinese website called dh gait. Now, 323 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: I just find it awkward for someone to be selling 324 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: her old designer gear online, especially when you've spoken about 325 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: purchasing fakes before. Now I'm not saying that these are 326 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: fake items. I'm just saying it all just feels a 327 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: bit murky and doesn't really make sense. 328 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: It's interesting you. 329 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: Say that because there are a lot of strict rules 330 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: regarding the selling of bootleg and imitation branded products on 331 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: Facebook marketplace. So I tried to sell a Calvin Klein Singler, 332 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: which was a legitimate Calvin Klein, and my item got 333 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: taken down because they thought it was a fake. Well, 334 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: that's the thing I mean. Also on depop, I think 335 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: they're pretty cautious about which items are genuine or not. 336 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: And also the same things on eBay. I mean a 337 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: lot of people do sell branded stuff on eBay, but 338 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: they are quick to take down items which are fake. 339 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: So I suppose that's where people are seat of asking 340 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: the question why would you sell on Instagram? Well? I 341 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: did actually jump on DHG because I hadn't heard of 342 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: it before, and it is sort of a wholesale is 343 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: similar to Ali Barba, where they do sell imitation designer 344 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: goods as well as other things. And I did type 345 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: in a few of the things that Mia was selling 346 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: and some fakes did come up. We don't know if 347 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: their fakes or not, but it's just all very peculiar. 348 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: And I mean, even if it is a situation where 349 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: she doesn't want to be seen wearing the same thing again, 350 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: I just think, can we get over this ridiculous Instagram 351 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: culture where it's embarrassing like to wear the same thing? 352 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I remember wearing I remember copying 353 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: a message from a listener who was lovely and they said, 354 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: I love your shoes. Where did you get them from? 355 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: I've noticed them in your photos quite a few times? 356 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh god, I looked back. I 357 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: literally have been wearing the same shoes in my. 358 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: Photos for the whole year. But I loved those, just 359 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: some Louis batons. 360 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: There was some very cheap not imitation in this sense. 361 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: They were I can't even remember that. 362 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: No they're not Zara's. There's some I don't know anyway. 363 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: They're nothing. Oh you mean ruby shoes. 364 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: No, they're not ruby shites anyway, They're not. I think 365 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: that was seventy dollars shoes anyway. But I mean, we 366 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: just get over ourselves. Like, doesn't matter if we wear 367 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: the same thing. If you love something, wear it a 368 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: few times. Like if I had spent three ground on 369 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: a pair of shoes, I'd been wearing them every day. 370 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: Isn't it funny that that someone is more embarrassed about 371 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: being seen outfit repeating than they are seen flogging said 372 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: shoes off weeks. 373 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 2: Later on Instagram. Come look in my office. 374 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: So some of it may still be in the trash. 375 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: Why did you well when it was quite large? I 376 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: have to draw most of it away. You threw my 377 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: sandwich away, my sandwich. Madison Woolly has revealed she fitted 378 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: the bill for her lavish birthday celebrations, despite it being 379 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: her birthday The twenty four year old paid over eight 380 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: thousand dollars for her and seven friends to stay at 381 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: a luxury coastal home in New South Wales. Let's listen 382 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: to what Madison had to say about her birthday week. 383 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: It because it's birthday week. 384 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 3: It's birthday week, baby, I'm so excited. 385 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: Your birthday feels like my birthday. This is the best week. 386 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 3: I'm just like, I don't know, I just wanted to 387 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 3: go all out this year and I love my love 388 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 3: language is giving gifts. 389 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 2: I was like, let's just have the best week ever 390 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 2: with all my friends for everyone else involved. Perhaps not 391 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 2: your bank account, but yeah. 392 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 3: No, my bank account is screaming, Caitlin. Actually yeah, to 393 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 3: hold me back from doing walk, Okay. 394 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: Can you tell us about this incredible accommodation. So Madison 395 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: kicked off her birthday celebrations with a three night stay 396 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: at Dove Cote and The luxury coastal home is two 397 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: hours out of Sydney and it's featured in the movie 398 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: Invisible Man Now. The home sleeps eight people with four 399 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: bedrooms and four bathrooms, and it's set on one hundred 400 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: and fifty acres of farmland overlooking wary beach. Now. 401 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: The house has a lot of features. 402 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: It's got an enclosed courtyard with a fire pit, an 403 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: indoor wood burning fireplace, large swimming pool, games room, gym, 404 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: and it also offers private walking access to the beach 405 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: and coastal trail. So it's definitely the perfect backdrop for 406 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: an influencer's birthday. Now, the trip seemed pretty wholesome, with 407 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: a trip to a winery and a cocktail making night 408 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: at the home. Madison's friends also surprised her by dressing 409 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: up in blonde bob wigs. Now. The accommodation for those 410 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: who were wondering starts at two seven hundred and fifty 411 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: dollars a night, and Madison and her friend stayed three nights, 412 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: so that's a cool eighty two hundred and fifty dollars 413 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: just for the first portion of accommodation for Madison's birthday weekend. 414 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: I watched this vlog on the weekend and I couldn't 415 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,239 Speaker 1: quite believe it because it wasn't as though it was 416 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: a big milestone celebration. It's a twenty fourth birthday. I mean, 417 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: I'm all for people celebrating their birthday, but it kind 418 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: of felt a little bit awkward that she was coming 419 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: in and paying for it all because as a friend, 420 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: I personally wouldn't want to almost accept that, And I 421 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: also feel like there would be a lot of pressure 422 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: on them providing an amazing gift to sort of make 423 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: up for the fact that you've stayed for no money 424 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: at this incredible accommodation. But I also think if she's 425 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: got more money than everybody and she has picked this 426 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: specific airbnb that's really expensive, then I can understand why 427 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: some of her friends have just gone along with it, 428 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: because it is sometimes rude if someone expects you to 429 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: fit this massive bill for a place that you don't 430 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: even really want to go to. 431 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: But why seven friends as well? 432 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: Like, you know, usually you have a big group of people, 433 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: so you can all divide the very expensive accommodation into 434 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: seven and you know, get somewhere nicer. 435 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 2: I did hear. 436 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: Madison say quite a few times leading up to her 437 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: birthday that she'd had a few disappointing birthdays in the 438 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: last couple of years, so she really wanted to make 439 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: this one one to remember. 440 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 2: So I suppose it's sort of like if. 441 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: You planned a big birthday party for yourself, you wouldn't expect. 442 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 2: Your friends to pay per head for that event. 443 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: So I suppose when it comes to accommodation, if you're 444 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: going to a luxury place that costs eight grand to stay, 445 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: I don't really think it would have been fair for 446 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: her to get her friends to fit the bill. I 447 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: think the awkward thing was that some of her friends 448 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: were influencers that went on the trip, so Lexi Murray 449 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: was there, so you'd assume she'd have a bit of 450 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: coin too. I suppose you can't ask for some friends 451 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: to pay and not others exactly. Yeah, just back to 452 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: the disappointing birthdays in the past. I feel like that's 453 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: another massive dig at her ex boyfriend Jonathan Sour because 454 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: I do recall her referencing that she and Jonathan had 455 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: a huge fight on her birthday last year. 456 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: That is interesting. 457 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: I feel like when you're in a couple, there is 458 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on your partner to do something great. 459 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 2: For your birthday. 460 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: So the fact that she is the single this year, 461 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: she can do whatever that she wants. She's not waiting 462 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: on her partner to plan something for her, because I 463 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: feel like girls are the planners. I'm not trying to 464 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: be sexist, like I think generally speaking, girls love planning 465 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: things like so, if you planned a trip for your 466 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: partner's birthday, I know heaps of my friends have done 467 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: the same, whereas I don't think boys think like that. 468 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: And again this is a general stereotype of people I know, 469 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: but I think that girls out this hope for like 470 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day, engagement's birthdays, boys are going to do exactly 471 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: what they want. But in this instance, Madison's gone, I'm single, 472 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: I'm just going to plan exactly what I would have wanted, 473 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: and I'm just going to fit the bill for all 474 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: of my friends. I did listen to Caitlyn and Madison 475 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: talking about the birthday celebrations on their podcast, and Caitlyn 476 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: kept saying that Madison is the Kylie Jenner of the group, 477 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: and you know, spoiling them all with this birthday celebrations, 478 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,479 Speaker 1: do you reckon? It almost creates a bit of a 479 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: power in balance though in a group, because for instance, 480 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: just say our best friend, just say if she spoiled 481 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: us with a twenty thousand dollar gift or a twenty 482 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: thousand dollar trip, I would then feel like I was 483 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: a bit on eggshells around her and having to be 484 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: ultra nice and you know, well you wouldn't also want 485 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: to feel like you're using them to said birthday party 486 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: like said gift. So it does create an imbalance there. 487 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: It's like when I think about what it would be 488 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: like to be friends with Taylor Swift. As much as 489 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: I think we'd be perfect for each other in terms 490 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: of friendship, it would be awkward because she'd be you know, 491 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: having to fly me around and pay for everything because 492 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to afford to live to her 493 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: life a situation. 494 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 2: But with a friend, sugar friend sugar. 495 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: Friends, yeah, there's always like you know, when you talk 496 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: about winning the lotto and you buy the ticket and 497 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: then you have that chat with your friends or your 498 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: partner about everything that you do and you chuck out. 499 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: There are a few good will gestures trying to you know, 500 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: make the universe, make it happen. But one of those 501 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: good will gestures that I actually think I would do 502 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: is take my friends on an all expenses paid trip. 503 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 504 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: So maybe it's just the fact that influence has earned 505 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: so much money that they have the capacity to do. 506 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: That's what I just kept thinking. I mean, for Madison, 507 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: she probably gets paid about twenty thousand dollars for a 508 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: sponsored post, and if you think about it an eight 509 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: thousand dollar trip, you think, well, that's kind of less 510 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: than half of what a photo would cost a post, 511 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: So it's probably not a huge deal for her, and 512 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: I can imagine if I was in a similar situation, 513 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind treating my friends at all, especially because 514 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: those friends are probably the ones that take all the 515 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: photos that then hearn her the bank, so they probably 516 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: had some obligations to take all their photos on the trip. 517 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: I feel like we've got to get into round two 518 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: of the celebrations, because this wasn't just one day, it 519 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: was a whole week of celebrations. So she also had 520 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: a yacht party in Sydney and she hosted a group 521 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,479 Speaker 1: of her friends and things appeared to get quite rowdy 522 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: very quickly. 523 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 2: Now. 524 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: Funnily enough, Madison did have a wardrobe malfunction before the party, 525 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: splitting her sheer dress up the back right to her 526 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: ass cheek. 527 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 2: And it wasn't just a sheer dress. 528 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: There were pearls jewels all over this dress and she 529 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: had a bikini underneath. 530 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: It was quite a look. It cracked me up. 531 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: No pun intended that she actually went to the party 532 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: with the dress split right up to her bum crack. 533 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: But the way I thought about it is like, well, 534 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: you could see her bathers through the sheer dress anyway, 535 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: so I suppose she got the picture she wanted and 536 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: then just got into her bathers. We've got to get 537 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: into round three because this again was an overnight stay, 538 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: which really blew my mind. I'm like, you've already done 539 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 1: your big stay. But then she had another sleepover at 540 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: a luxury hotel in the city with a group of friends, 541 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: which was then followed by a lavish dinner. Now her 542 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: friends were good and organized her a surprise birthday cake, 543 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: but it just cracked me up because she's obviously planning 544 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: this whole week of celebrations, which could be seen as 545 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: quite self indulgent. But then she was acting so shy 546 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: when the birthday came came. What I thought was classic, Well, 547 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: there were two things I thought were classic. One whether 548 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 1: there were some friends who kind of looked a bit annoyed. 549 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 2: They're like, happy. 550 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: Birthday for the hundredth time. And then I thought it 551 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: was quite interesting because people have been commenting that Isabel 552 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: Clark which is one of Madison's friends and also an influencer, 553 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: wasn't on the initial group trip. However, we later hear 554 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: that was also Isabel's birthday that weekend, and you know, 555 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: they got to the end of Madison's birthday celebrations and 556 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: you could tell they were kind of like, oh, now 557 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: we've got another party to go to. I mean, Paul, 558 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: Isabel only had one afternoon, she didn't have the whole 559 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: week Yeah, because Isabel Clark went to the yacht part 560 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: and then they had this whole weekend revolving around Madison again, 561 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: and then they were all hungover as and. 562 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 2: Were like, oh, We've got to go drag. 563 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: Ourself to Isabelle's thing now. And I was just thinking, God, 564 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: if I was here, I'd be pretty pissed off about 565 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: the whole You feel pretty shit, wouldn't you though? Trying 566 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: to live up to that birthday weekend? Yeah, sorry, friends, 567 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: I haven't spent eight grand on you now. Just to 568 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 1: wrap things up, it does appear there may be a 569 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: new man on the scene. As Madison showed off a 570 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: very big bunch of flowers she received for her birthday, 571 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: so her best friend Caitlin asked in a joking way 572 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: who they were from, and then Madison was coyly laughing, 573 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: and then the audio suddenly cut and then it was 574 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: back to Madison naming every different variety of flower that 575 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: was within the bunch. Then Caitlyn said, those are really nice. 576 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: Whoever sent those must really like you. Now this all 577 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: matches up with a story she was telling on her podcast, 578 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: because she and her friend were joking around how it 579 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: was very unexpected that Madison somehow turned up at a 580 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: Merton hotel, and they kept joking that nothing good happens 581 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: at a Merton hotel and they were very renowned back 582 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: in the day for hookups. And Madison apparently left the 583 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: hotel room at four am and took a selfie and 584 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: senate to her friend Caitlin. So, I just feel like 585 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: there must be something going on in. 586 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 2: The works there. 587 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: No, I don't get they run this relationships podcast yet 588 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: we don't get any of the dirty details about from 589 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: the pop teasm just saying like, you know, they're trying 590 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: to be like Caller Daddy. Clearly, and if it was 591 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 1: Alex Cooper, we would have heard what went down in 592 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: that hotel suite. We wouldn't have heard someone kind of 593 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: dancing around the fact that they obviously hooked up with 594 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: some guy. It just makes no sense. I mean, we 595 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: want to hear about it, Madison. I'm just surprised that 596 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 1: Madison stated at a Meriton hotel. 597 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 2: That's what shocked me about this whole thing. 598 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: I think she was rather unimpressed with it as well. 599 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 2: So do we think it's an influencer. 600 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: I feel like it's going to be an influencer or 601 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: someone in the public eye or a wealthy businessman, because, 602 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: let's be honest, they keep saying they want someone just 603 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: to pay for their lifestyles. Yeah. I think that's probably 604 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: why she got rid of Jonathan, because I don't think 605 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: he's making too much coin as an influencer slash model anymore. 606 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: And you know, she was discussing how she doesn't reply 607 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: to anyone in her DMS, but she'll only reply to 608 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: them if they send her a Birken bag. So I 609 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: don't know, there's a bit of maybe an old guy 610 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: going on. Yeah, she was clearly joking there, but she 611 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: is on Ria. So my bet is Aya, isn't it 612 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: name it's Ryan Rya whatever? 613 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 2: I thought it was Rya. 614 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: I thought it was maybe I'm listening to too many 615 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: American podcasts and they say Raya. Anyway, she's on there, 616 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: so I'm predicting this has to be an influencer. I 617 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: think this is probably the worst hotel we've ever studio. 618 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 2: Yes, it is a service. Here is an absolute disgrace. 619 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: I agree. You don't, yes? 620 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 2: Do you know that we had to wait nearly half 621 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 2: an hour for our main course and when it arrived 622 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 2: it was wrong. And when I completed, he completely fumped 623 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 2: me off with some rubbish. The roles were off, and 624 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 2: when I told him, there was an argument and her 625 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: meat was off. And I asked you to fix my 626 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: radiator three times and nothing's been done. 627 00:28:53,080 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: Satisfying ah. Over the weekend, news broke that Sophie Monk 628 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: had tied the knot with partner Joshua Gross now Amy. 629 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: Sophie and josh managed to keep their wedding a secret 630 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: for some time. 631 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. 632 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: So Sophie and Josh managed to keep things secrets for 633 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: four weeks, and the news was broken by Stellar magazine 634 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: on Saturday, who featured the newlyweds on the front cover 635 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: as well as an exclusive interview with the couple. 636 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 2: So the pair decided to keep things very intimate. 637 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: So intimate in fact, no family or friends were invited 638 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: and the wedding was just for themselves and took place 639 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: at their Central Coast home in New South Wales. Sophie 640 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: told Stella magazine. We figured if you don't invite one person, 641 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: then no one could get upset. God you save a 642 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: lot of money that way, as far I know. And 643 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: she also said that so many friends had told her 644 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: prior to the wedding that they barely saw their husband 645 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: on the night of the wedding and they regretted not eloping. 646 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: So Sophie thought, well, we really want a stress free day, 647 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: so that's why they decided to have the wedding at home. 648 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: How would you guys feel if I told you that 649 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: Dale and I were just having our wedding at home 650 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: when we were eloping, I'd be pretty upset because I'd 651 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: really want to spend your special day with you. I 652 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: know it's yours as a couple, but I sort of 653 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: feel like weddings are really for your family as well. 654 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I suppose it depends what's important to you. 655 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: The thing is, Sophie has had such a public love 656 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: life that I kind of love the fact that she 657 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: decided to get married secretly and just do the ceremony 658 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: for her and her husband, because you know, she's been 659 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: on the Bachelorette, she had a very public relationship with 660 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: Benji Madden from Good Charlotte, and everyone seems to. 661 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 2: Want to always talk about her love life. 662 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: And this really shows me that it's not for show, 663 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: that they really just did it for themselves. Let's be real, though. 664 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: Sophie's house isn't your typical home. It's a gorgeous property 665 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: on the South coast, and the photos from the at 666 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: home wedding looked incredible. There were flowers and candles everywhere 667 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: and beautiful candelabras. Sophie also wore two dresses by Melbourne 668 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,719 Speaker 1: based designers Jtonne Couture, one of which she designed herself. 669 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: So get this, she gave this designer two weeks to 670 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: make this dress based off her sketch. I can't wait 671 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: for mom to hear that, because Mum was in absolute 672 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: awe when I picked out my dress and they told 673 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: her it would be eight to ten months. I'm like months, 674 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: Jiman weeks, Well, I think when you're Sophie Monk, you 675 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: can give them just two weeks to do it. And 676 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: it was really funny because Sophie said that she didn't 677 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,479 Speaker 1: actually try on the wedding dress until the day, but 678 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: luckily it fitted like a glove. Yeah, but it was 679 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: custom made to her body, so I'm sure they took 680 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: all the measurements. That's not such a shock. It's not 681 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: like it was off the rack. It's pretty crazy because 682 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: we've been talking about planes and travels all day and 683 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: I feel like this ties in really well because Sophie 684 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: actually met Josh on a plane. So she met him 685 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: on a flight from Europe to Australia in twenty eighteen 686 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: and they hit it off from the get go. So 687 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: Sophie said she was drawn to him because he had 688 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: a great sense of humor and she thought it was 689 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: such a relief being sat next to someone to have 690 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: a great chat with. I did hear Sophie on the 691 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: Carl and Jackie Oh Show last year, and she said 692 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: that Josh told her he had no idea who she 693 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: was when she sat down, because I was just thinking, 694 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: can you imagine if you're a young guy and Sophie 695 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: Monk sat next to you. Yeah, but I doubt that 696 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: she's sitting in economy. As we've all established, this would 697 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: have been in business. It was Amy, your partner. Dale 698 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: would have been pretty happy. Doesn't he have a big 699 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: crush on Sophie Monk? Yeah, so, well back in the 700 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: day he said he had a big crush on Sophie 701 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: Mark in the day. 702 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 2: So not anymore. 703 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: No, well not anymore, but no, he's more of a girl. 704 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 2: It's true. But I told him. 705 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: How Sophie Monk had married the guy that she'd met 706 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: on the plane, and he's like, yeah, but that couldn't 707 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: happen to like normal people like me because it was 708 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: business class. And I do like the fact that Sophie 709 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: Monk's now husband. He's a neurosurgical robotics consultant. So I 710 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: do feel like maybe he just didn't know who Sophie 711 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: Monk was. Maybe it's a good excuse to play it cool. 712 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: It reminds me of when we went on our first 713 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: overseas trip without our parents, just the three of us, 714 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: and we had the middle aisle and normally had four 715 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: people in it, and so we're like, oh, who are 716 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: we going to get next to us? And this nerdy 717 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: guy rocked up who was absolutely lovely. I think we're 718 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: still Facebook friends, but we were just like, oh shit, 719 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: and poor Sophie got stuck for like seven hours talking 720 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: to him. 721 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 2: He was a pianist. 722 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: Apparently he invited me to come and see his piano show. 723 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: Oh maybe he could play at your wedding. That would 724 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: be a bit of a turn of events, wouldn't it. 725 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 2: Wait, Wait, wait a second. 726 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: The guy was called Josh as well. 727 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 2: He was yeah, you're Sophie. Sophie and Josh. Wow. Could 728 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: have been maybe he was my soul mate and I 729 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 2: didn't give him a go. Maybe. Well. 730 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: On Sophie Monk and Josh's trip, she revealed on radio 731 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: that they actually kissed on the plane during the fly 732 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: and then Sophie thought to herself, God, I've got a 733 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: ten hour flight with this guy, and if he says no, 734 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm in trouble. Of course, Josh said yes. But it 735 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: was hilarious because Sophie said that they both went off 736 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: to separate toilets to brush their teeth, to then return 737 00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: for the kiss. 738 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 2: God, I can't how awkward that would be. 739 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: Kind of being like, all right, so we're going to 740 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: brush our teeth now. 741 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 2: Would that kind of ruin the moment a little? 742 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: Bit. I'm assuming they probably had plenty of cheese platters 743 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: like Kate and an ex boyfriend, and who wants to 744 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: kiss someone once they've beaten cheese? But I suppose it 745 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: does take the romance out of it, slightly exiting to 746 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: brush your teeth. You know what they got the budge 747 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: on the bottom, you see that enables you to control 748 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: your budget distribution as you're eating your asia. 749 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 2: There was so much about that. 750 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: Last week we discussed the disgusting clickbait headlines about Molly 751 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: may Haig's endometriosis. 752 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 2: During the topic, we also touched on. 753 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: The Australian Federal government's announcement that fifty eight million dollars 754 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: would be spent supporting women living with endometriosis. Now since 755 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: the episode air, we received some very helpful feedback in 756 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: our Facebook group regarding the Australian ENDO community's feelings regarding 757 00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: the funding, As outlined in an article in Independent Australia, 758 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: many believe the funding has been ill considered. Now there 759 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: has been no mention of spending the funding on expert 760 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: excision surgeries or further training in this area, and this 761 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: is a crucial area to invest in as expert excision 762 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: surgery is currently the only successful tool available to fight 763 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: and diagnose endometriosis. Now, excision surgery is considered the gold 764 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: standard of care. However, surgeons trained in this technique are 765 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: difficult to come by in Australia, so Australians living in 766 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: capital cities are even struggling to find a suitable specialist. Furthermore, 767 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: most specialist work in the private healthcare system, which means 768 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: they are even less accessible to people with financial limitations. 769 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: So in terms of where the government's funding is going, 770 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: the largest portion has been allocated to MRII scans. However, 771 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: this is questionable as endometriosis cannot be reliably detected through 772 00:35:50,560 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: an MRI. And thank you so much to our community 773 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: members for sharing this information with us, because I found 774 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: it really helpful when I was putting the government's funding 775 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: into perspective. Well, I think that's all we have time 776 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: for today. Thank you so much for joining us for 777 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 1: today's episode. If you have enjoyed it, could you please 778 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: make sure you are subscribed on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. 779 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 2: You can also find us on TikTok and Instagram. 780 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: At the hand or Outspoken Underscore, the Underscore podcast and 781 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: If you want to join in on all the conversations, 782 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: join us in our Facebook community, which is outspoken at 783 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: the podcast community