1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Here at two Good Sports, we would like to acknowledge 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of the land on which we record 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: this podcast. The wereunerie people. 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: This land was never seated. 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: Deer listeners. Today's guest doesn't just clear bars, she clears history. 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: From a kid in Perth with a big dream and 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: an even bigger smile to standing on top of the 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: world at the Olympics. Quite literally, imagine the view she 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: would have had when she cleared her gold medal attempt 10 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: in Paris. People, Nina Kennedy has soared higher than any 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: Australian woman in pole volt ever before. But her journey 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: hasn't all been smooth run ups and perfect takeoffs, because 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: what journey is. It's been marked by injury, setbacks, heartbreaking 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: near missus and the kind of resilience they can't actually 15 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: be measured in meters off the track. She's refreshingly grounded, 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: she's gorgeous, she's a dog lover, she's a proud West 17 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: Ozzie and proof that elite athletes can be both fiercely 18 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: competitive but also deeply, deeply human. Whenever she's interviewed or competed, or, 19 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: let's be honest, just breathed somewhere somewhere you can hear 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: Jelmy and I whispering. 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: One of ouse. We love her. 22 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: She's also a fan of champagne, which makes her an 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: obvious choice to open the fourth season of Two Good Sports. 24 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: Please put your hands together, because Nina Kennedy, our third 25 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: Good Sport is here and we are so very happy 26 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: to have you. 27 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Nina, Damn. 28 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 4: I love how you finished the intro of like she 29 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 4: loves champagne, Like. 30 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: It had to be said, It had to be said. 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: And can I just say a peek behind the curtain here, 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: dear listeners, that I know that Nina loves champagne because 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: on her Instagram there's this absolutely gorgeous post of her 34 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: opening a bottle of champagne with her partner that he'd 35 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: gifted her with the hope to open it at a 36 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: very special time, and she'd written a lifelong dream on 37 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: that which was Olympic Champion. And you got to pop 38 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: that bottle when you became an Olympic champion in twenty 39 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: twenty four. I've got goosebumps just repeating those words back 40 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: to you. 41 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: I actually like completely forgot about that. 42 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 4: I was like, why is she talking about champagne and 43 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 4: now I like it's cleakeed in my head. 44 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 3: It's early over here in Perth. But yeah, that was 45 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: so nice. 46 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 4: My partner had got me a bottle of champagne, you know, 47 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 4: before I'd gone to the Paris Olympics, and I wrote, 48 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 4: you know, Olympic chat with a little square so I. 49 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 3: Could ticket when I did it, And. 50 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, opening that with like all my friends, it was 51 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 4: just the best thing ever. 52 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 3: Like there was literally none left because they like sprayed 53 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: it all. But I was like, there's a tidy little 54 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: drop left. 55 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 5: There's Olympic golden in it, and then there's track and 56 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 5: Field Olympic gold for Australia. It is the rarest of rare. 57 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 5: It is so special. How much has it changed your life? 58 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 5: Because I think we as observers go, oh, it must 59 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 5: just be absolutely every fiber of your being must change. 60 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: How has it changed your life? 61 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 4: It's a great question, and I think everybody like assumes, right, 62 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 4: it's like it changes your life. But like I knew 63 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 4: going into it, it wouldn't change my life like drastically. 64 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 3: And I'm a big believer and my psych and I do. 65 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 4: A lot of work in like values based living and 66 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 4: values based training and like values based having a career. 67 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 4: So I know what I value really strongly, like friends, family, experiences, whatever. 68 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 4: I knew that I wasn't none of those really important 69 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 4: things to me were going to change. So yes, it 70 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 4: was amazing, like I got to drink champagne and I 71 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 4: got to like meet some really cool people. But like 72 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 4: when you know it's all like said and done, like 73 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 4: nothing actually changes, you know. 74 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: Wow, that to me is so fascinating. And I love 75 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: that you said that you're working with your psych on that, 76 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: because the thought of committing yourself so holy to something 77 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: that you obviously love, but with the knowledge that it 78 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: may not love you back in a certain way. And 79 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: I mean that in a it's not going to be 80 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: completely life changing for you. Is that fair? 81 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? For sure. 82 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 4: I think like a really good way to put it was, 83 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 4: my parents are not gonna. 84 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: Love me anymore if I won or if I lost. 85 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 4: And like my friends, they were all gonna go and 86 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 4: they were all gonna make it the best time ever 87 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 4: whether I won or I came eighth, Like we were 88 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 4: still gonna party, we were still gonna. 89 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 3: Have a great time. They were still gonna love me. 90 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: And when I. 91 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 4: Look back on you know that year leading up or 92 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 4: even like the five days in Paris, like they're the 93 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 4: core memories are like actually stick with me is like 94 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 4: seeing my friends in this dand like being stupid, Like. 95 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 3: If I'm honest, the competition was just a blur. 96 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 5: Well take us back to let's take go back from 97 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 5: Olympic gold. 98 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: We will return there, I promise. 99 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 5: But why polvolt because it's not a very often practiced sport, 100 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 5: particularly Perth. We love our footy, we love our netball. 101 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 5: It's not often what people do in primary school. How 102 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,239 Speaker 5: do you get into pole vault? 103 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, great question, so little athletics. I loved it. I 104 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 4: love sports kind of will stay. In two thousand and eight, 105 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 4: Steve Hooker won the Olympic gold in the pole vault. 106 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 4: And he's from Perth, so you know, he had curly 107 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 4: red hair. No one could miss him. He was all 108 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 4: over our screens in Perth, all over our newspapers. 109 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: He also loved to party, Steve, he does. 110 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 5: I used to work on the door of a nightclub 111 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 5: in Perth and he was on the list many a time. 112 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: Yeah he does. 113 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 5: And I remember him commentating your final and I'm like 114 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 5: Sam Groper's represent. 115 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: Look at him go but sorry, n. 116 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 3: I actually didn't know that. 117 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 4: I love that. 118 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: Well. 119 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 4: I think that's kind of something about the poor vaults, 120 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 4: like we are like we have a little something in 121 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 4: us to like be that crazy to like go jump 122 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 4: over something so high. 123 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: Anyways, that's a different story. 124 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 4: But so Steve Hooker won the Olympics and the year 125 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 4: later they were trying to do some recruitment. I was like, 126 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 4: w a young athletes and I was just at a 127 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 4: track and field little athletics meet and probably thirty kids 128 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 4: were chosen. 129 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 3: We got sent letters. Months later we went to. 130 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 4: Go and try day and yeah we did like long jump, sprinting, 131 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 4: a whole bunch of things. 132 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: And from those thirty kids that were three left and 133 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: I was one of them. 134 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 4: And it was almost like I always knew I wanted 135 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 4: to go to the Olympics, and this was almost like 136 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 4: my vehicle to do that. 137 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: I saw Steve do that, in WASO. Yeah, I just 138 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 3: jumped on the bandwagon. 139 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 5: Can I just interject and say, Georgie, I'd love to 140 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 5: see you to go and try day. 141 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 142 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: I actually have been just holding back because I wanted 143 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: Nina to finish. But Nina just so you know. I 144 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: have also gone to a go and try day, but 145 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: it was more like the Scouts came to my primary 146 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: school and they had mattresses set up on the ground. 147 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: It was underneath our school hall. Look it lives rent free, 148 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: rent free in my brain and I remember, because of 149 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: who I am as a person, thinking, God, I can't 150 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: wait to be selected. I wonder what I'm going to do. 151 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: I can't wait. Do they think I'm going to tumblr? 152 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: Am I going to be good at? Like the beam? 153 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: Because it was a gymnastics day and I was like, 154 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. Can't do a summersault. So I don't 155 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: know why. I was so devastated, like truly desolate that 156 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: I did not get chosen. I was like, sorry, did 157 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: you see me? 158 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 3: I am amazing? 159 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: So you're just living out a dream that you know 160 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: us smuggles over here, Nina, we can but dream. We 161 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,559 Speaker 1: can only but dream about how that would actually look. 162 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,559 Speaker 5: And also the other thing about growing up in Perth, 163 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 5: and we all know it West Australians is it is 164 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 5: the most isolated city in the world. 165 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 2: It is the wild wild West. 166 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 5: It's a long way from everywhere, so to go from 167 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 5: growing up in Perth to as you say, living out 168 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 5: of a suitcase, traveling all around the world with what 169 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 5: you do. I glamorize it in my mind because I'm like, oh, 170 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 5: imagine living in Europe, going to droperdo. 171 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: Cities with your team. How cool? Is it? 172 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 3: Actually? 173 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 5: In part exhausting in it when you're actually in the 174 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 5: full grind of the season. I know that you love 175 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 5: what you do, but it must be hard on relationships 176 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 5: and friendships when you're like, okay, so yeah, I guess 177 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 5: in a bit. 178 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. 179 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 4: If there's one thing I struggle with, it's definitely that 180 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 4: I'm weirdly a homebody. 181 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 3: I love being a Perth Perth. It's just like the 182 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 3: absolute best. 183 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 4: But to get out of it in winter, it's it's 184 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 4: it's pretty good. But you know, living out of a suitcase, 185 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 4: getting on a plane every three or four days, traveling 186 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 4: to new places, like it's awesome and people are like. 187 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 3: What sites did you see? 188 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 4: And You're like, I'm there like training and competing and 189 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 4: recovering and tapering like I'm not. 190 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 3: You know, on like Kentiqui or something. You know, like 191 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 3: it's not like that. 192 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 4: In saying that, though, like having the year off with 193 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 4: injury in twenty twenty five. It really gave me a 194 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 4: great sense of like perspective and I do really miss it. 195 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 4: So yeah, I actually can't wait to get back on 196 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 4: a plane. My like frequent fire points have dropped from 197 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 4: gold to silver, and I like. 198 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: No, no, now that that's why. 199 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 5: That's actually are you with quantum, Because that's when you've 200 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 5: got to send an email being like, Hi, they're Nima 201 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 5: Kennedy gold. 202 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: Oh I won and gold is where I belong. 203 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: Actual golden girl. Guys, there's so many, so many front 204 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: pages with me, so I need that gold status, thank 205 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: you very much. 206 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 5: That's why Georgie and I should never win gold, because 207 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 5: that's how we yield one. 208 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: Honestly, we would do that. That's why we can't be 209 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: trusted with great power and all that. But Nina, I 210 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: do want to talk about the injury because now listeners 211 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: of our podcast, no not great at maths. However, I 212 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: think it was something like five hundred and eighteen days 213 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: it had been for you from being injured and then 214 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: to finally being able to compete again. Is that correct? 215 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: And are you okay? 216 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 4: Look, someone from the media told me it was five 217 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 4: hundred and eighteen days, so I've rolled with it. 218 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 3: I didn't fact check. 219 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 5: Weightly and I would back him in, not me being 220 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 5: the hype of band that listened to the chat. It 221 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 5: was Jared Whiteley on Sea and that man doesn't get 222 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 5: things wrong. 223 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, great, it's confirmed. So look a year and 224 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 4: a half, five hundred and eighteen days, whatever it is. Yeah, 225 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 4: I went back out there in Perth. It was like 226 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 4: a really small meat. 227 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: But it was so nice to like put on my 228 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 3: uniform and do like my little pre com rituals and 229 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: just remember what to do. It was like really fun. 230 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: What are your pre conferentials? 231 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: By the way, Oh okay, lots of things. 232 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 4: It depends where I am and what I'm doing, but 233 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 4: like hair makeup, like packing your bag, ticking it all off, 234 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 4: you know, listening to your you know, your AirPods. Like 235 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 4: it's just there's something about a comp day which is. 236 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 3: Like nothing else compares? 237 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: Are you nailer? 238 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 4: Look not for like a Perth local meat, but like 239 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 4: when I'm at the Olympics, I let's do it. 240 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: You know, when you're out of Perth local meat, how 241 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: do people look at you? Because I remember again, student athlete, 242 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: I remember racing against Emily's c bomb, a random, completely 243 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: random backstroke event millions of years ago, and just being 244 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: like I think I can take it, and I obviously couldn't. 245 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: What are people's reaction to you at a local Perth. 246 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: Event autograph surely, Nina. 247 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's a bit of it's a bit of both. 248 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 4: It's like, I'm just a normal member of like the 249 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 4: athletics community, where you know, if they need a volunteer 250 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 4: to put the pole volt things up, like I'll do 251 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 4: our stand in. 252 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 3: But then like this meet was like a little bit bigger. 253 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 4: So there were people in the crowd that like had 254 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 4: especially like come to watch me, which I find like 255 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 4: super strange. 256 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 3: So it's a bit of both. 257 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 5: Let's talk about that injury as well. So you actually 258 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 5: had surgery on your hamstring, which for me, all I 259 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 5: can visualize is someone stitching a muscle back on. Talk 260 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 5: to me about the surgery and water entails. And also 261 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 5: because then you then had another injury to a different 262 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 5: part of the same hamstring, take us through what these 263 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 5: five hundred and eighteen days have held for you. 264 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, so se coming off like the best year of 265 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 4: like my whole life twenty twenty four going into twenty 266 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 4: twenty five. I did my hamstring three times from like 267 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 4: February to April, three occurrences, and like each time it 268 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 4: would just like break my heart, like break my soul 269 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 4: because I knew like it was like just prolonging the season. 270 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 4: So my team and I we eventually opt for surgery. 271 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 4: We could have done it conservatively and like healed it, 272 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 4: or we could have gotten this surgery route, and that's 273 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 4: what we did. I've never had like a major surgery before, 274 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 4: so didn't really know what to expect. But the Surgeony 275 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 4: filmed it, so like I kind of know exactly. 276 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 3: What he did. 277 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 2: You can see yourself like an episode of Gray. 278 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: It's gross. It's the pit. 279 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: You lived the pit, but. 280 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 4: It's crazy, like I'm cut open and he's like tugging 281 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 4: my muscles and showing me the thing and I'm like damn, 282 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 4: like I'm face. 283 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 3: Down, like that's I don't know. It was a bit 284 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 3: weird too. 285 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: What were you okay with that? Or are you just 286 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: like because if that happened to me again, You're getting 287 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: a real insight into who I am as a person. 288 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: I would be like, where's my stethoscope? I'm now qualified 289 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: to do all of the surgeries in the future. But 290 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: if it was actually happening to me, I think i'd 291 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: my brain might short circuit. 292 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like it was super weird, but like 293 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 4: I always say, like knowledge is power, Give me everything 294 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 4: and I will like digest it and I'll be better 295 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 4: for it. So that happened in April, and the plan 296 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 4: was always to like rehabit like quite conservatively, like we're 297 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 4: talking longevity of my career, let's not rush back. 298 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 3: So we did that. 299 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 4: We rehabbed that the World Championships were in September, so 300 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 4: that was April to September. There was definitely a chance 301 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 4: I was going to get there, so probably halfway between 302 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 4: April and September, my team and I said like yep, 303 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 4: like let's let's commit. 304 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 3: Let's try get there. 305 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 4: For some context, like a lot of our funding relies 306 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 4: on eating at a major championships and like with sponsorships, 307 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 4: like I was going to get like cut if I 308 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 4: didn't go, So that was a part of it. But 309 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 4: there was also a part of me where it was 310 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 4: like no, like I have this belief in myself now 311 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 4: that I can actually like go out there and win, 312 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 4: like let's roll the dice, like this is what a 313 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 4: career is about, Like let's have some fun while doing it. 314 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 4: So we did that two weeks out. You know, I 315 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 4: got set my Australian uniform. I told the media and 316 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 4: the press I was going. I was pumped my flights 317 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 4: and being booked. And one of my last sessions, I like, yeah, 318 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 4: strained my hamstring the same muscle be in like a 319 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 4: different area. 320 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: So my heart just like broke. 321 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 4: Into like a million little pieces. But and this is 322 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 4: probably a reflection of like where I'm at in my 323 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 4: career now. I was really proud of myself for still 324 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 4: having a crack. And you know I kind of thought, 325 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 4: was there anything different my team and I could have done? 326 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 4: And the answer was no, And that gave me like 327 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 4: a lot of peace, and like like fuck it. I tried, 328 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 4: it didn't work out, Like let's just go next season. 329 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: Do you think that piece is something that comes naturally 330 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: to you or have you had to learn it? 331 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 3: No, it's a learned. 332 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 4: Skill, like one hundred percent. Like I said the word 333 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 4: maturity before, like as you grow as like a human 334 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 4: and you grow as an athlete, and like you learn 335 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 4: what's important to you and what's really important to me 336 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 4: is knowing that I did everything I could, and that 337 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 4: was something I really prided myself going into the Olympics. 338 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 3: It's like I have genuinely like. 339 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 4: Done everything and if I come second, like it's just 340 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 4: meant to be, Like that's okay, Like I tried my hardest. 341 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 5: George and I are two very type a performance and 342 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 5: outcome based people, like we like numbers and we like 343 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 5: knowing that we do well. And I saw something that 344 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 5: you put about success in relation to this and the 345 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 5: injury and the way that you've reframed it, and I thought, God, 346 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 5: I just loved that where you were saying success instead 347 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 5: of being outcome based because that's out of my control, 348 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 5: is now about my values, which I can completely control, 349 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 5: which just gives everything a little bit more easy because 350 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 5: at the end of the day, you can sit back 351 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 5: and be like, right to my values, have I done 352 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 5: my best? And I was like, Wow, that is the 353 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 5: message that I hope to give my kids. It's the 354 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 5: message that we hope to give people going through little 355 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 5: ats and also something that we've seen recently at the 356 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 5: Winter Games, where you know, Scotty James wins silver and 357 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 5: he's like you know what, But I did my best 358 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 5: and that's and that's my best. And I think that 359 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 5: reframing is so important And is it hard though to 360 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 5: reframe when as viewers we get very outcome based. 361 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 4: Like for sure, And I think like the example of 362 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 4: Scotty was like a perfect example, like he did his 363 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 4: absolute best, like everything that he could control. So why 364 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 4: I put emphasis and success on something you can't control, 365 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 4: which is how the other competitor you know, did his run? 366 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think it is like a super and 367 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 4: iant message. 368 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 3: And like I said. 369 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 4: About the injury, like two things can be true at 370 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 4: the same time. I can be heartbroken that I'm not 371 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 4: going and it didn't work out, but I can also 372 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 4: be really proud of myself that I gave it a 373 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 4: red hot crack. So yeah, my site calls it like 374 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 4: the duality of experience. You know, it's not black or white, 375 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 4: it's gray. 376 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 2: I like that. I like that too. 377 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 1: I like that too, speaking of the gray because also 378 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: what viewers, media people inherently like to do is pit 379 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: people against each other, right, And of course, when you 380 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: are an athlete, you're going to have your main rivals, 381 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: You're going to have your main competition is it possible 382 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: or have you found that you have genuine friendships and 383 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: bombs with your main competitors on the tour. 384 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 3: I hope they don't listen to. 385 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 4: Oh Like it's honestly, like it's something that changes season 386 00:17:59,520 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 4: to season. 387 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: Then, like I see these girls like. 388 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 4: A handful of times every few years, and also like 389 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 4: in the biggest moments ever, so like. 390 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 3: Am I gonna like talk to them about what they 391 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 3: had for breakfast? Like probably not, Like I'm sorry. 392 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: One of us, she's one of us. 393 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: We knew it. I'll let you. 394 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 5: During the Games, we renamed Katie Moon to Katie Boo Boo. 395 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: See you never get out of me? 396 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 4: Yes, Like I just couldn't, And there's something comes over you. 397 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 4: It's like I haven't trained fifteen years of my life 398 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 4: to like be your friend. 399 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 3: I've trained fifteen years of my life to like within 400 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 3: the Olympics. Sorry, it's not mean. 401 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 2: I get like that. Over board games. 402 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: I was like, it's like looking in a mirror and 403 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: jell me and my stakes are board games. 404 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 3: That's literally cool. 405 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 5: You talk about wanting to win on the big stage. 406 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 5: You do have a gold meat coming up in the 407 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 5: Murray Plan Meet a meet that we saw people literally. 408 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: Hanging from the rafters last year because a little man 409 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: called Gout. 410 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 5: Gout has just lit up the athletics world and you 411 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 5: must be excited to see the attention that he's bringing. 412 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: To athletics in Australia. 413 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 5: But also to be performing yourself, performing like you're going 414 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 5: to be singing, to be competing yourself at the Moray 415 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 5: Plant Meet because it is going to be such a 416 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 5: huge occasion and it's next month, right, it will be. 417 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. 418 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: Every year, it just gets bigger and bigger and bigger. 419 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 4: So for some context for the listeners, the Diamond League 420 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 4: circuit is like our main thing, and then the one 421 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 4: under that is gold, the one under a silver broten. 422 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 4: So gold in Australia is like a really big deal. 423 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 4: So to classify for a gold meet, like internationals have 424 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 4: to come. It has to be a certain amount of 425 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 4: prize money, like it has to meet a certain standard. 426 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 3: So it's a big meat. 427 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 4: So the Americans are coming, few athletes from Europe, few 428 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 4: athletes from Asia. 429 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 3: Like it's a big meat. 430 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 4: And you're right, Gout Gout has really like brought some 431 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 4: really big eyeballs to the sport. 432 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 3: It's so cool to. 433 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 4: See but just apart from goutgaud as well, Like we 434 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 4: have so many medalists, we have so many like elite 435 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 4: people right now like Nikola, Matt Denny, Jaz Whole, who else, 436 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 4: Like so many athletes is lighting it up and it's 437 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 4: so cool to see. 438 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 5: Nikola, who was like the world Female Field Athlete of 439 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 5: the Year last season. Like I feel like she's someone 440 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 5: that sort of I think the media, for whatever reason, 441 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 5: glosses over how insanely talented she is. 442 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, she is like incredible. 443 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 4: I think she's one, Like I want to get this 444 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 4: right do I like five global medals, she's a two 445 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 4: time Olympic medalist, Like, she is massive, and it's so 446 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 4: cool to see what she's doing. 447 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: She's also a journaler, and I wanted to know, Nina, 448 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: is there something you talk about your pre conferenituals. Is 449 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: there something that you do mid comp like in between 450 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: jumps or attempts that you that keeps you, like your 451 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: brain in check, keeps you focused. 452 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: Because you've got some down time. 453 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: Sometimes there's downtime. 454 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: There's so much downtime. 455 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 4: There's like you know, the Olympics, anyone for like three 456 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 4: hours or something crazy. So the way that I like 457 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 4: to frame it is like my attention is a dial 458 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 4: and I dial it up when I'm about to jump, 459 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 4: and I dial it down when I'm like in between. 460 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 4: So there's probably half an hour between jump. So some 461 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 4: like little mindfulness exercises I try and do, Like I 462 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 4: try and look at the crowd, and I try to 463 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 4: like see funny. 464 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 3: People, or like I look at the clouds, like. 465 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 4: Really simple dumb stuff like that, just to keep my 466 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 4: mind out of it. 467 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 3: You can't be on for three hours. You just get 468 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 3: emotionally exhausted. 469 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: I'm chesting my memory here, Nina. 470 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 5: But it was your event in Paris right where there 471 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 5: was an unprecedented amount of qualifiers, Like there was a 472 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 5: marshal of there checking everyone off, And I thought, how 473 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 5: many women can possibly be in this, Like that's got 474 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 5: to be so hard. 475 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 4: Just to like explain that, because that was really interesting. 476 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 4: So they take twelve into the final thirty two. In 477 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 4: the qualifying there was eleven girls that had cleared the 478 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 4: height to make the final. The twelfth position was like 479 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 4: a seven way tie, so they took all those girls. 480 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 4: So there was like I'm pretty sure there was like 481 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 4: nineteen or twenty girls through to the final and that 482 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 4: just like that was probably the first thing in that 483 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 4: final that just like shook me. I was really annoyed. 484 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 4: I was really pissed off, but yeah, I kind of 485 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 4: kept telling myself that the winner is going to be 486 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 4: the person that can deal with the best and in 487 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 4: the end, like it's kind of what happened. 488 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, a hundred. 489 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 5: I genuinely remember this moment, being like, that can't be 490 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 5: all of them, make. 491 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 2: Them do papers? Is rock? Nina, Nina need some time. 492 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: I was so angry for you again. 493 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 5: I was like, I can remember this now because I 494 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 5: remember seeing the marshaler being like, why does she have 495 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 5: two pages for a final? 496 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 2: Which it's so ridiculous. 497 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 5: Anyway, I was mad for you taking me right back then, 498 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 5: and you're taking me right back. 499 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 2: But it was just one of the most joyful moments. 500 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 5: Was the peak of the joy sharing it with your 501 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 5: family and the hugs and everything that you got to 502 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 5: share after what was the golden moment for you? 503 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 4: It was it was It was like the best day 504 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 4: of my life, hands down, and in a weird way, 505 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 4: I don't think I'm ever going to have a day 506 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 4: better than that because I just lived out a childhood dream. 507 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 4: I did it with like the people I really cared about. 508 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 4: My family was there and like all my best friends 509 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 4: were there, Like we're talking childhood best friends, we're talking 510 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 4: their parents, we're talking my high school best friends. 511 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 3: Like it was just the best thing ever. So how 512 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 3: I won. 513 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 4: There's heaps of different ways to win in the polvo, 514 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 4: and I won by Katie missing, so. 515 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: I always were watching her. I was just. 516 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 4: Watching her, still focused on kind of what I had 517 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 4: to do, and like my team was like Nina, Nina, 518 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 4: if she misses, like you win, and I was like, Okay, 519 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 4: I better watch this. And in the pobot you can 520 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 4: just tell if they're going to miss it really early, 521 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 4: and I just knew as soon as she took off. 522 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, Like I just won, 523 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 4: Like what the HELLY? 524 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 3: I love that. 525 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: I love that you knew from that moment because then 526 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: you could kind of say right, like you can be 527 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: like holy shit, let's get this together. 528 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. It was crazy, and like everyone just kept being 529 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 3: like you want like we did it, Like we did 530 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 3: this and like. 531 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 4: You know, my team was there and we worked like 532 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 4: so hard and just for like some insight. I don't 533 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 4: think I've actually like told the media this, but every 534 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 4: comp in the lead up to the Olympics, so we're 535 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 4: talking like all the Diamond leagues probably like from like April. 536 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 4: We do this ritual before we go into the call room, 537 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 4: which is like before you start the competition, and we'd 538 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 4: put our hands in so like me, my coat, my physio, 539 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 4: like whoever was there, and we go OC on three, 540 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 4: which means like Olympic chap so we like we got three. 541 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 4: We just like manifested this and like we've just been 542 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 4: after it and after and after it for so long. 543 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 3: So yeah, it was just like, guys, like we did this. 544 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I just got goosebumps. I just got goosebumps. Also, 545 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: California started playing in my head because I got the OC, 546 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: And yeah, George. 547 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: And I do the same thing, but we argue about 548 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 2: Seth and. 549 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 5: Ryan, which is why we are where we are and 550 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 5: why you are where you are. The Actually the OC 551 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 5: is a lovely segue because George and I like to 552 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 5: watch rubbish television outside of our regular jobs. What do 553 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 5: you do outside of being a pole vault sensation? What 554 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 5: do you do that makes Nina Nina? 555 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 4: It's a great question, and I also like hate it 556 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 4: at the same time because it's like what hobbies do 557 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 4: you want? 558 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 2: No one has hobbies. 559 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 3: We watched Terrible and like eating good food. I don't 560 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 3: have a these it's away from. 561 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 4: It no, But like in all seriousness, my my partner 562 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 4: is a farmer. Like I'm from the bush as well. 563 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 4: So whenever we have like a week and off we 564 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 4: go down there, we're on the beach, we're driving on 565 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 4: the beach, we have motor bikes, we have dogs, we 566 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 4: go out camping, we have fires. 567 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 3: It's like really nice. 568 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 2: Reset whereabouts whereabouts Wa. 569 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 4: So I'm from like Margaret River area, and then my 570 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 4: partners from like just outside of Albany. 571 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 5: So for the non West Australians, Margaret Rivers where they 572 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 5: keep the good beaches, the good wine. There's a chocolate factory. 573 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 5: I'm sure Simmos is still going the ice cream factory. 574 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 5: You go down there and there's a Bermuda triangle of joy, 575 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 5: like you just should never leave. If people live in rugs, 576 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 5: they never go anywhere. 577 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like the best thing. It's so awesome. 578 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: What would you what would you say then that your 579 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: goals are for the year, Nina be that I would 580 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: like on the track, but also just away from the track, 581 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: like in the Bermuda Triangle of Joy, Like what are 582 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: you what are you looking forward to most? 583 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 4: It's a really good question, Like I have really strong 584 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 4: goals in the sport, like we're talking back to back 585 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 4: Olympic champ like pushing for the world record. Like I 586 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 4: have some pretty fears goals in that, and I've been 587 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 4: doing this my whole life that I don't think I've 588 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 4: actually learned the concept of like thinking about my life 589 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 4: outside of sport, and my psyche is probably going to 590 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 4: listen to this and be like we need to work 591 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 4: on that, Like that's really toxic. 592 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 3: But in all seriousness, like it's just you know, living 593 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 3: a values based life. 594 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 4: So like I said, like my friends are so important 595 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 4: to me, My family is so important to me. If 596 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 4: that means like taking training days off and like actually 597 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 4: just enjoying Easter and creating those memories, Like I'm a 598 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 4: really big believer in that. So I don't actually have 599 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 4: any major goals outside of the sport right now. 600 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 5: I also think being fully dedicated to something does set 601 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 5: you up for life outside of sport. Like I think 602 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 5: we see so many athletes go on and be successful 603 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 5: in whatever they choose to do, because you narrow in 604 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 5: and you're have this ability to keep doing the hard 605 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 5: stuff that no one sees. Like I think sometimes people go, oh, 606 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 5: athletes need think about life after sport, and of course 607 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 5: you do, but you're training this muscle time and time again. 608 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 5: That tells you that dedication has good outcomes. 609 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. 610 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 4: And I also have this like no philosophy like here, 611 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it, but it's like I have, 612 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 4: let's say I have three years left. 613 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 3: To miss in the sport. 614 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 4: It's like such a finite amount of time that let's say. 615 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,719 Speaker 3: Like I have the rest of my life to do whatever. 616 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 4: Like I want to look back and be like I 617 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 4: put everything into those three years, and like I want 618 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,479 Speaker 4: to see what happens, Like I want to see if 619 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 4: I mastered it. I want to see if I went 620 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 4: close to the world record, Like I want to die 621 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 4: trying to see if that happens. 622 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 5: If we are going to talk about world records in 623 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 5: pol Volk, can we discuss the male counterpelt in your sport? 624 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: My god, who only needs one word? 625 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 5: We are living in an era of a freak, yeah, 626 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 5: like an absolute like they need to test him to 627 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 5: see if he's by and part plane with what he's 628 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 5: achieving at the moment, can you give to context just 629 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 5: how wild it is what he's achieving. 630 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like I'm not going to do it justice. 631 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 4: But he has broken the world record I want to say, 632 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 4: like fourteen times or thirteen times. Yeah, Like he's just 633 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 4: he can kind of do everything, like he's singing, like 634 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 4: he's a singer. 635 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 5: He's good looking, he's soon to be wife. 636 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 2: He's hideous as well. 637 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 5: She sucks dead, divine a most beautiful couple in the world. 638 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 5: But when you actually watch him jump it in real time, 639 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 5: given that you can, like you know how hard it 640 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 5: is to do what he does. We think everything's hard, 641 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 5: but when you watch what he's doing, are you like 642 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 5: are you for real? 643 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 3: Like yes? 644 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 4: And I think a way I explain it is just 645 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 4: like you become like elite and like you master it, 646 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 4: and I kind of feel like I'm just kind of 647 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 4: getting to that level he got there when he was seventeen, 648 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 4: Like here's like way above like everyone else. 649 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: Just like that's yea for so many people who love athletics, 650 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: love track and field, but even just for people like 651 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: us who didn't have dreams of even following you into 652 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: that sport, but just to watch you, like I watch 653 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: you and watch you compete, and you are gorgeous. You 654 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: were insane, You're amazing, and I'm just like, sorry, we're 655 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: not the same species. Incredible, incredible, and I've got to say, Nina, 656 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: it has been such a joy to have you join 657 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: us for our first interview episode, this series of two 658 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: good sports. We couldn't have dreamed up a better guest 659 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: because you. 660 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 2: Are too early. Too early, because where do we go now? 661 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, because confirmation you are one of us, 662 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: and I'm just so excited for what's. 663 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: Ahead of you. 664 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 5: And you may not have thought about life after sport, 665 00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 5: but we have for you three good sports, my friend. 666 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 2: We may as well complete this state. You can be on, 667 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 2: you can be we can work it out. We can 668 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: work it out. 669 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 5: Thank you so much for your time, and we'll all 670 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 5: be watching so intently at the Moray Plant met and 671 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 5: again you are one of the big stars that's bringing 672 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 5: all this attention to track and field, something that's so 673 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 5: close to my heart. So thank you for being you, 674 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 5: and thank you for being such a damn good sport. 675 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 3: Damn thanks guys, I had a lot of fun. It 676 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 3: was awesome. 677 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 2: Kay yeah, I love that that's the aime of the game.