1 00:00:04,071 --> 00:00:06,511 Speaker 1: Black Cast unite our voices. 2 00:00:07,311 --> 00:00:11,071 Speaker 2: Black Magical and Podcast acknowledges the traditional owners of the 3 00:00:11,151 --> 00:00:14,791 Speaker 2: land we have recorded this episode on. We also acknowledge 4 00:00:14,791 --> 00:00:18,271 Speaker 2: traditional owners of the land where you, the listener OFVIER 5 00:00:18,391 --> 00:00:20,671 Speaker 2: are tuning in from. We would like to pay our 6 00:00:20,711 --> 00:00:23,991 Speaker 2: respects to our elders past and present and acknowledge that 7 00:00:23,991 --> 00:00:28,191 Speaker 2: this always was Aboriginal land and always will be Aboriginal land. 8 00:00:28,711 --> 00:00:32,991 Speaker 3: This is a dynamic time to be an Aboriginal business owner. 9 00:00:32,991 --> 00:00:37,311 Speaker 3: I mean dynamic in the construction space, renewable indy space. 10 00:00:37,511 --> 00:00:39,911 Speaker 3: I just get excited talking about it, really, and I 11 00:00:39,951 --> 00:00:43,791 Speaker 3: think the banks particularly and Z understands. 12 00:00:43,271 --> 00:00:46,591 Speaker 4: That this episode is proudly brought to you by A 13 00:00:46,751 --> 00:00:50,071 Speaker 4: and Z, a new series of conversations with different mob 14 00:00:50,151 --> 00:00:53,831 Speaker 4: around the country to yan about meaningful career opportunities within 15 00:00:53,911 --> 00:00:57,191 Speaker 4: A and Z, building the capacity of Indigenous businesses and 16 00:00:57,391 --> 00:01:01,631 Speaker 4: organizations and helping individuals in the broader community to achieve 17 00:01:01,671 --> 00:01:02,831 Speaker 4: financial wellbeing. 18 00:01:03,031 --> 00:01:03,991 Speaker 1: And rezil is. 19 00:01:09,111 --> 00:01:13,711 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Black Magic Woman Podcast with Mandanara Baale. 20 00:01:18,631 --> 00:01:21,631 Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of the Black Magic of 21 00:01:21,671 --> 00:01:24,471 Speaker 2: My podcast. I am here on the beautiful lands of 22 00:01:25,031 --> 00:01:29,831 Speaker 2: the Camaragle people of the Orination just over the bridge 23 00:01:30,111 --> 00:01:34,951 Speaker 2: is my mother's country, and I grew up on Gadigle Country, 24 00:01:35,871 --> 00:01:39,871 Speaker 2: which is Redfern the CBD. So I want to get 25 00:01:39,911 --> 00:01:45,231 Speaker 2: into this episode, but I'm feeling really excited because one 26 00:01:45,311 --> 00:01:49,031 Speaker 2: I'm back on my mother's country and I live in Queensland, 27 00:01:49,191 --> 00:01:53,151 Speaker 2: and I believe that you're joining me from Victoria. 28 00:01:53,471 --> 00:01:57,031 Speaker 1: Is that true? Yes, she could be anywhere in the world. 29 00:01:57,631 --> 00:02:04,111 Speaker 3: I'm in nom in Victoria. I'm on Land, but through 30 00:02:04,151 --> 00:02:07,751 Speaker 3: a rundery well, wrong country in order to get here. 31 00:02:08,471 --> 00:02:11,271 Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm honored to be able to be in 32 00:02:11,271 --> 00:02:15,631 Speaker 3: this space and serve the great Aboriginal torture. Any businesses 33 00:02:15,631 --> 00:02:19,231 Speaker 3: of Victoria, is there I can ceo too deadly? 34 00:02:19,671 --> 00:02:24,151 Speaker 2: So Donald, we actually asked guests on this podcast to 35 00:02:24,231 --> 00:02:28,351 Speaker 2: introduce themselves in Aboriginal terms of reference. So if you 36 00:02:28,431 --> 00:02:30,591 Speaker 2: don't mind, can you share with my listeners and also 37 00:02:30,711 --> 00:02:34,031 Speaker 2: our viewers on YouTube your name, tell us a little 38 00:02:34,071 --> 00:02:37,471 Speaker 2: bit about where you're from and even where you grew up. 39 00:02:37,791 --> 00:02:42,151 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Yeah, my name is Donald Betts. I'm a 40 00:02:42,191 --> 00:02:47,111 Speaker 3: descendant of slaves. I'm a freeman, a chalk Taw freeman 41 00:02:47,191 --> 00:02:54,071 Speaker 3: from Chalctaw Nation. I'm a I'm a proud son and 42 00:02:54,471 --> 00:02:59,311 Speaker 3: father and husband, and I grew up and I was 43 00:02:59,311 --> 00:03:03,391 Speaker 3: born in Wichita, Kansas, the midwest of the United States. 44 00:03:04,031 --> 00:03:07,431 Speaker 3: My moved to Las Vegas when I was ten. Raised 45 00:03:07,471 --> 00:03:09,711 Speaker 3: up in Las Vegas. So I know my street game 46 00:03:09,831 --> 00:03:13,511 Speaker 3: is real, is real? Uh legit. I grew up in 47 00:03:13,551 --> 00:03:15,871 Speaker 3: the uh, in the projects of Las Vegas by a 48 00:03:15,911 --> 00:03:20,151 Speaker 3: single parent. Uh. My mother was a single parent. Uh. 49 00:03:20,191 --> 00:03:24,071 Speaker 3: So we had to we had to endure the the 50 00:03:24,151 --> 00:03:28,791 Speaker 3: life of gangs and and drugs and prostitution and you know, 51 00:03:28,871 --> 00:03:32,271 Speaker 3: and and all of those things that surround communities that 52 00:03:32,431 --> 00:03:39,511 Speaker 3: are destitute and you know, lacking an example, and and 53 00:03:39,511 --> 00:03:42,031 Speaker 3: and all those things. But it was a It was 54 00:03:42,071 --> 00:03:44,791 Speaker 3: a village. There was a village that that raised me 55 00:03:44,911 --> 00:03:48,391 Speaker 3: up and some some some powerful Black men and women, 56 00:03:48,871 --> 00:03:52,511 Speaker 3: White men and women, Indian men and women. A community 57 00:03:52,991 --> 00:03:55,831 Speaker 3: that gave me a bit of hope. And I decided 58 00:03:55,871 --> 00:03:58,271 Speaker 3: at that time, at that age, that I refused to 59 00:03:58,271 --> 00:04:02,071 Speaker 3: be another statistic. So after graduating from high school, I 60 00:04:02,111 --> 00:04:07,671 Speaker 3: moved back to Kansas, attended a secular university, the Christian 61 00:04:07,751 --> 00:04:11,911 Speaker 3: university called Fringe University. Became the first African American student 62 00:04:11,951 --> 00:04:15,551 Speaker 3: body president there. Uh and then I applied for law 63 00:04:15,591 --> 00:04:17,151 Speaker 3: school was not accepted. 64 00:04:17,791 --> 00:04:18,031 Speaker 2: Uh. 65 00:04:18,071 --> 00:04:20,631 Speaker 3: And then I decided I'll take my political science degree 66 00:04:21,031 --> 00:04:24,591 Speaker 3: and run for political office to become uh the youngest 67 00:04:24,591 --> 00:04:28,271 Speaker 3: senator eventually the youngest senator in the history of the 68 00:04:28,391 --> 00:04:31,591 Speaker 3: United States at the time when elected, and definitely the 69 00:04:31,631 --> 00:04:34,711 Speaker 3: youngest senator went elected from the great state of Kansas. 70 00:04:35,351 --> 00:04:35,631 Speaker 1: Uh. 71 00:04:35,671 --> 00:04:38,791 Speaker 3: So uh, that's my US journey. And then you know, 72 00:04:38,951 --> 00:04:42,631 Speaker 3: to get to Australia, I was nominated with the American 73 00:04:42,671 --> 00:04:44,711 Speaker 3: Council Young Political Leaders to learn about the federal and 74 00:04:44,751 --> 00:04:47,591 Speaker 3: state parliament system. While on that trip, I met one 75 00:04:47,631 --> 00:04:50,351 Speaker 3: of the most gorgeous women of my life. Uh. And 76 00:04:50,391 --> 00:04:53,031 Speaker 3: then down the line, after she'd not given me the 77 00:04:53,071 --> 00:04:58,711 Speaker 3: time of day, I eventually you know, won her heart 78 00:04:58,751 --> 00:05:03,511 Speaker 3: in friendship and then that led to a relationship and 79 00:05:03,831 --> 00:05:07,111 Speaker 3: we have two beautiful children. We live in Victoria, and 80 00:05:08,071 --> 00:05:13,431 Speaker 3: I'm a lawyer and she's a businesswoman. And in a nutshell, 81 00:05:13,551 --> 00:05:15,111 Speaker 3: that's that's a little bit about me. 82 00:05:16,071 --> 00:05:16,591 Speaker 1: Wow. 83 00:05:16,751 --> 00:05:22,791 Speaker 2: Well, like, massive congratulations on all of your achievements. You 84 00:05:22,911 --> 00:05:27,631 Speaker 2: still look quite young, so interesting with a career in 85 00:05:27,791 --> 00:05:31,951 Speaker 2: political science or in you know politics. You know, I 86 00:05:31,951 --> 00:05:38,311 Speaker 2: would think that would like age people. Well, they say, 87 00:05:38,351 --> 00:05:43,551 Speaker 2: black don't crack, right, you know, so he's still he's 88 00:05:43,591 --> 00:05:46,551 Speaker 2: still doing your thing. You went into law because you 89 00:05:46,551 --> 00:05:49,031 Speaker 2: said you didn't get into law at first. What made 90 00:05:49,031 --> 00:05:50,031 Speaker 2: you go back to law. 91 00:05:49,911 --> 00:05:51,671 Speaker 3: Well, it's always been a dream since I was ten 92 00:05:51,791 --> 00:05:54,591 Speaker 3: years old. You look at my Wikipedia. I laid out 93 00:05:54,631 --> 00:05:58,111 Speaker 3: there many many years back. But that has always been 94 00:05:58,111 --> 00:06:02,391 Speaker 3: my goal. You know, Politics was the second. It was 95 00:06:02,431 --> 00:06:05,711 Speaker 3: the fall back. Everyone said you always need a backup plan. 96 00:06:06,111 --> 00:06:10,151 Speaker 3: Well big to get involved in politics was my backup plan. 97 00:06:10,751 --> 00:06:15,111 Speaker 3: So I looked after my father in law and took 98 00:06:15,431 --> 00:06:17,111 Speaker 3: took care of him until he passed. And then I 99 00:06:17,191 --> 00:06:19,471 Speaker 3: knew that was the right time for me to jump 100 00:06:19,511 --> 00:06:25,071 Speaker 3: into law here in Australia. I am the first African 101 00:06:25,111 --> 00:06:28,791 Speaker 3: American to earn a Jewish doctorate in this country. And 102 00:06:28,791 --> 00:06:30,391 Speaker 3: and I do a lot of work for my first 103 00:06:30,471 --> 00:06:32,831 Speaker 3: nations people. Most of the work that I do is 104 00:06:32,831 --> 00:06:37,311 Speaker 3: pro bono work, even if they can afford me. And 105 00:06:37,311 --> 00:06:39,951 Speaker 3: and and we just we just go go along with it. 106 00:06:40,031 --> 00:06:43,071 Speaker 3: I cut my teeth at Norton rose Fulbright Global number 107 00:06:43,071 --> 00:06:46,391 Speaker 3: four firm before working with their joint venture jerem A Legal, 108 00:06:46,511 --> 00:06:50,511 Speaker 3: Australia's first national majority Indigenous own law firm UH. And 109 00:06:50,551 --> 00:06:53,271 Speaker 3: then UH two years ago, I started my own practice, 110 00:06:53,351 --> 00:06:57,351 Speaker 3: Bett's Law Company based out of Melbourne on Collin Street 111 00:06:57,551 --> 00:07:00,111 Speaker 3: four seventy Collins Street level of two Sweet five. 112 00:07:01,111 --> 00:07:03,911 Speaker 2: Well, now now we know where you are and all 113 00:07:03,911 --> 00:07:06,431 Speaker 2: of them mob listening. You know what that means. That 114 00:07:06,551 --> 00:07:10,471 Speaker 2: was an open invitation that brother, Although I end up 115 00:07:10,471 --> 00:07:16,511 Speaker 2: calling your uncle out where, brother, I know when people 116 00:07:16,551 --> 00:07:19,911 Speaker 2: call me aunt after remind them like, hey, siss is five. 117 00:07:20,871 --> 00:07:24,151 Speaker 2: You know, in my community, my family, I do a 118 00:07:24,191 --> 00:07:26,911 Speaker 2: lot to try and support as many people as possible. 119 00:07:26,951 --> 00:07:30,471 Speaker 2: So when you talked about pro bono and just giving 120 00:07:30,511 --> 00:07:33,951 Speaker 2: back and supporting people, it resonated with me a lot, 121 00:07:33,991 --> 00:07:36,471 Speaker 2: and it just made me think about like the work 122 00:07:36,471 --> 00:07:40,711 Speaker 2: that you're doing now at kin Away. I was able 123 00:07:41,111 --> 00:07:44,271 Speaker 2: had the privilege to come to Kinnaway and a in 124 00:07:44,471 --> 00:07:50,791 Speaker 2: Z's Indigenous market Place to celebrate NATEOC Week. So I 125 00:07:50,871 --> 00:07:53,191 Speaker 2: came and set up the podcast there for the listeners. 126 00:07:53,551 --> 00:07:55,831 Speaker 2: If you haven't had to listen to the a and 127 00:07:55,991 --> 00:08:02,751 Speaker 2: Z Kinawai Indigenous Marketplace episode. I was able to yearn 128 00:08:02,831 --> 00:08:07,591 Speaker 2: with some really deadly black business owners and entrepreneurs and 129 00:08:07,631 --> 00:08:10,791 Speaker 2: they're all members of Kinawe. So I'm really keen for 130 00:08:10,871 --> 00:08:13,831 Speaker 2: you to share with my listeners who have never heard 131 00:08:13,871 --> 00:08:19,151 Speaker 2: about Kinawe, what does the organization do and how did 132 00:08:19,191 --> 00:08:22,991 Speaker 2: you end up, you know, going to Kinawa because a 133 00:08:23,031 --> 00:08:26,071 Speaker 2: lot of the time we would never have people like 134 00:08:26,231 --> 00:08:27,711 Speaker 2: you in our organizations. 135 00:08:27,791 --> 00:08:29,991 Speaker 1: And this is amazing for a lot. 136 00:08:29,831 --> 00:08:33,151 Speaker 2: Of people to see that you can work in Aboriginal 137 00:08:33,871 --> 00:08:39,271 Speaker 2: businesses and spaces. We need people with skills, experiences, and 138 00:08:39,311 --> 00:08:46,031 Speaker 2: qualifications and passion and dedication to come into our organizations. 139 00:08:46,111 --> 00:08:47,711 Speaker 1: So it was really good. 140 00:08:47,751 --> 00:08:49,351 Speaker 2: When I saw you come up with the screen, I 141 00:08:49,391 --> 00:08:52,231 Speaker 2: was like, okay, and then I heard you talk and 142 00:08:52,271 --> 00:08:57,191 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, So I'm really keen for you 143 00:08:57,231 --> 00:09:01,071 Speaker 2: to share the amazing work. I've only had a little 144 00:09:01,111 --> 00:09:03,191 Speaker 2: bit to do with kin Awe because my business is 145 00:09:03,191 --> 00:09:08,151 Speaker 2: registered in Queensland, So yeah, tell us about So. 146 00:09:09,231 --> 00:09:11,911 Speaker 3: The African American community is not too different than from 147 00:09:11,991 --> 00:09:15,271 Speaker 3: the Aboriginal tour Straet Islander community. We deal with a 148 00:09:15,311 --> 00:09:17,271 Speaker 3: lot of the same issues, a lot of the same 149 00:09:17,591 --> 00:09:22,071 Speaker 3: health disparities, the prison population. When I was a senator, 150 00:09:22,151 --> 00:09:28,031 Speaker 3: I had the displeasure of meeting three generations of black 151 00:09:28,071 --> 00:09:31,231 Speaker 3: men in prison, grandfather, father, and son. And it was 152 00:09:31,311 --> 00:09:34,111 Speaker 3: dante and it was shocking, and it would it shook 153 00:09:34,151 --> 00:09:36,951 Speaker 3: me to the core. I also lost a brother to 154 00:09:36,991 --> 00:09:39,391 Speaker 3: the system. My brother was in and out of the 155 00:09:39,431 --> 00:09:43,231 Speaker 3: system his whole life and eventually died on his knees 156 00:09:43,231 --> 00:09:46,751 Speaker 3: with bullet bullets rhythm through his body. And you know, so, 157 00:09:47,431 --> 00:09:51,631 Speaker 3: when I started studying Indigenous affairs and Indigenous people in 158 00:09:51,671 --> 00:09:57,391 Speaker 3: the Law, I took a real uh connection to First 159 00:09:57,511 --> 00:10:01,191 Speaker 3: Nations people and I felt at home when engaging with 160 00:10:01,351 --> 00:10:04,431 Speaker 3: First Nations people in Australia. I didn't feel isolated. I 161 00:10:04,471 --> 00:10:06,431 Speaker 3: didn't feel like I was the only one. I felt 162 00:10:06,431 --> 00:10:08,591 Speaker 3: like I was a part of that family. And I 163 00:10:08,631 --> 00:10:11,431 Speaker 3: still do to the core of my soul. And that's 164 00:10:11,471 --> 00:10:14,951 Speaker 3: why I am. Part of my learnings and my development 165 00:10:15,031 --> 00:10:19,471 Speaker 3: under the guidance of Bevin Meltman, Deborah Beltman's brother, and 166 00:10:19,591 --> 00:10:24,071 Speaker 3: the Law taught me Indigenous Black fellow ways. He taught 167 00:10:24,111 --> 00:10:27,351 Speaker 3: me how to engage and understand how black people in 168 00:10:27,391 --> 00:10:31,711 Speaker 3: Australia do business. And it opened me up to even 169 00:10:31,791 --> 00:10:37,391 Speaker 3: more affection an affiliation to First Nations people. And along 170 00:10:37,431 --> 00:10:39,951 Speaker 3: the way I met quite a few And this role 171 00:10:40,071 --> 00:10:43,311 Speaker 3: at Kennaway just so happened to be that because of 172 00:10:43,391 --> 00:10:47,671 Speaker 3: relationships that I had built with the r MIT, Global 173 00:10:47,711 --> 00:10:52,071 Speaker 3: Trade routes program. A gentleman by the name of David 174 00:10:52,071 --> 00:10:56,031 Speaker 3: parkin Aboriginal Brother reached out to me and said, hey, 175 00:10:56,111 --> 00:10:59,311 Speaker 3: you know, previously I was at the Runde Corporation leading 176 00:10:59,311 --> 00:11:02,831 Speaker 3: their organization, the row Wrong Cultural Aria to the Aboriginal Corporation. 177 00:11:03,231 --> 00:11:07,111 Speaker 3: After I finished my secondment there, they reached out and said, hey, 178 00:11:07,191 --> 00:11:10,911 Speaker 3: we need a deputy CEO. Would you consider coming on board? 179 00:11:11,191 --> 00:11:14,471 Speaker 3: And so I met the board of directors and they, 180 00:11:14,591 --> 00:11:18,071 Speaker 3: you know, we we initially did a six month stint 181 00:11:18,111 --> 00:11:20,631 Speaker 3: that stick six months of comment through my law practice, 182 00:11:21,231 --> 00:11:24,271 Speaker 3: and I came on and then the CEO resigned and 183 00:11:24,311 --> 00:11:26,351 Speaker 3: they asked me to stay on another six months and 184 00:11:26,391 --> 00:11:29,791 Speaker 3: then a further six months. But since we've been there 185 00:11:30,231 --> 00:11:33,631 Speaker 3: ken away, I've learned that knaway means in Gunna i 186 00:11:33,711 --> 00:11:38,151 Speaker 3: kernei language exchange. So I thought, you know, what about 187 00:11:38,431 --> 00:11:39,951 Speaker 3: you know, and when I sat with the board and 188 00:11:40,031 --> 00:11:42,631 Speaker 3: we started talking about our strategy, I said, let's open 189 00:11:42,671 --> 00:11:45,431 Speaker 3: this up. You know, these businesses should be going global. 190 00:11:45,791 --> 00:11:48,471 Speaker 3: They are just as formidable as any other business in 191 00:11:48,511 --> 00:11:51,551 Speaker 3: this nation or or any other nation around the world. 192 00:11:51,831 --> 00:11:55,311 Speaker 3: Why are we not looking at a global alliance? So 193 00:11:55,391 --> 00:11:57,231 Speaker 3: I said, you know, it's time to build that army. 194 00:11:57,271 --> 00:11:59,831 Speaker 3: I reached out to quite to all of the chambers 195 00:11:59,831 --> 00:12:03,631 Speaker 3: of commerce, the the ethnic chambers of commerce, Street Line, 196 00:12:03,711 --> 00:12:08,431 Speaker 3: an Italian, the Finished, the French, the Americans, everyone to say, hey, 197 00:12:08,791 --> 00:12:11,431 Speaker 3: we are open for business. Come check us out. Let's 198 00:12:11,431 --> 00:12:15,071 Speaker 3: see what's going on. We're going global. So last year 199 00:12:15,151 --> 00:12:18,031 Speaker 3: I thought, you know, I want to be really ambitious. 200 00:12:18,071 --> 00:12:20,031 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I want to take the I want to 201 00:12:20,071 --> 00:12:24,871 Speaker 3: take businesses overseas. So we decided we'll take the largest 202 00:12:24,911 --> 00:12:28,471 Speaker 3: First Nations trade delegation in the history of Australia to 203 00:12:29,031 --> 00:12:32,191 Speaker 3: my state of Kansas. And to show that, you know, 204 00:12:32,311 --> 00:12:34,631 Speaker 3: doing business in the state of Kansas is a lot 205 00:12:34,711 --> 00:12:37,671 Speaker 3: easier than doing business in La or New York. You 206 00:12:37,751 --> 00:12:40,751 Speaker 3: go to places where people are interested in you and 207 00:12:40,831 --> 00:12:43,471 Speaker 3: about you and not about your race and who you 208 00:12:43,471 --> 00:12:46,071 Speaker 3: you know, the people you came from. So as a result, 209 00:12:46,671 --> 00:12:50,511 Speaker 3: we had a a resolution drawn up in the in 210 00:12:50,551 --> 00:12:54,391 Speaker 3: the Senate a unanimous vote to recognize Kenewey Chamber of 211 00:12:54,391 --> 00:12:57,511 Speaker 3: Commerce as the Trading UH one of the trading bodies 212 00:12:57,551 --> 00:13:01,191 Speaker 3: for Australia and Kansas. That resolution is now in our 213 00:13:01,231 --> 00:13:04,951 Speaker 3: office today UH. And now you know we're getting attention 214 00:13:05,071 --> 00:13:10,551 Speaker 3: from dfat n i a a ib A, Victorian government, 215 00:13:10,991 --> 00:13:14,311 Speaker 3: the federal government. And as a result, I just recently 216 00:13:14,351 --> 00:13:19,151 Speaker 3: signed the you know initially, you know, normally with some 217 00:13:19,231 --> 00:13:22,031 Speaker 3: of these signatures you have to get bored representation. But 218 00:13:22,071 --> 00:13:24,791 Speaker 3: the window was so it was it was a short 219 00:13:25,191 --> 00:13:28,351 Speaker 3: opportunity for me to be able to solidify this for 220 00:13:28,391 --> 00:13:33,231 Speaker 3: the chamber. But I've signed documents to to sign Kennaway 221 00:13:33,351 --> 00:13:36,951 Speaker 3: up as the official host for the World Indigenous Business 222 00:13:37,031 --> 00:13:41,671 Speaker 3: Forum next year October twenty twenty five. So you need 223 00:13:41,711 --> 00:13:44,591 Speaker 3: to You're gonna have to be there to be interviewing, 224 00:13:44,751 --> 00:13:49,391 Speaker 3: interviewing these world Indigenous businesses. So Kennaway it is the 225 00:13:49,431 --> 00:13:53,951 Speaker 3: peak body organization in Victoria to certify Aboriginal and tourist 226 00:13:54,031 --> 00:13:57,831 Speaker 3: rate all inder businesses. We have almost four hundred daily 227 00:13:57,951 --> 00:14:03,191 Speaker 3: business black businesses that are doing some amazing things, kicking 228 00:14:03,231 --> 00:14:06,031 Speaker 3: some gold. We were able to secure over six hundred 229 00:14:06,111 --> 00:14:10,151 Speaker 3: million dollars last year in procurement dollars. We have about 230 00:14:10,151 --> 00:14:14,631 Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty Tier one corporate partners saying about 231 00:14:14,671 --> 00:14:18,271 Speaker 3: ten Global Alliance Friends of kin Away. We're bringing on 232 00:14:18,311 --> 00:14:21,671 Speaker 3: our registered Aboriginal parties, We're bringing on our non for 233 00:14:21,751 --> 00:14:25,071 Speaker 3: profit organizations. It truly is kin Away as big as 234 00:14:25,071 --> 00:14:25,591 Speaker 3: you think? 235 00:14:26,111 --> 00:14:28,791 Speaker 2: My brother, I want to move to Victoria and I 236 00:14:28,871 --> 00:14:30,311 Speaker 2: have never said that before. 237 00:14:32,551 --> 00:14:34,751 Speaker 1: I so, how do people live in this place? Is 238 00:14:34,791 --> 00:14:35,631 Speaker 1: too compliment. 239 00:14:42,551 --> 00:14:47,751 Speaker 2: But the excitement that's happening, that's coming out of you know, 240 00:14:47,911 --> 00:14:51,791 Speaker 2: the last eighteen months of your involvement with Kinaway is 241 00:14:52,111 --> 00:14:55,471 Speaker 2: like mind blowing for me as a black businesswoman. Yes, 242 00:14:56,471 --> 00:15:01,111 Speaker 2: knowing that this is happening. It's happening. We are going 243 00:15:01,151 --> 00:15:04,031 Speaker 2: global and that's one of my biggest dreams is for 244 00:15:04,151 --> 00:15:07,791 Speaker 2: our people to do business outside of this country because 245 00:15:08,191 --> 00:15:12,471 Speaker 2: we're so limited and so narrow minded in Australia. And 246 00:15:12,511 --> 00:15:17,831 Speaker 2: then for blackfellows, it's hard to kind of just we're 247 00:15:17,911 --> 00:15:20,911 Speaker 2: kicking down doors every day and I'm sick of kicking 248 00:15:20,911 --> 00:15:21,551 Speaker 2: down doors. 249 00:15:22,351 --> 00:15:23,071 Speaker 1: We want an. 250 00:15:22,911 --> 00:15:26,871 Speaker 2: Invitation, you know, open the door, invite us in. So 251 00:15:26,991 --> 00:15:31,151 Speaker 2: what you're doing is something that I've always dreamt of doing, 252 00:15:31,271 --> 00:15:37,511 Speaker 2: is going overseas and doing business and being invited. You know, 253 00:15:37,591 --> 00:15:43,111 Speaker 2: being invited is having that invitation then trying to you know, 254 00:15:43,351 --> 00:15:46,351 Speaker 2: knock on the door and get people to give you 255 00:15:46,391 --> 00:15:50,351 Speaker 2: some of their time. So you know, Kinaway obviously has 256 00:15:50,391 --> 00:15:52,911 Speaker 2: a partnership with A and Z. You mentioned you've got 257 00:15:53,231 --> 00:15:56,631 Speaker 2: ten corporate partners. Tell me about this partnership. 258 00:15:56,231 --> 00:15:56,791 Speaker 1: With A and Z. 259 00:15:57,191 --> 00:15:59,391 Speaker 3: Yeah. So Azen is one of our two hundred and 260 00:15:59,471 --> 00:16:02,831 Speaker 3: fifty Tier Work corporate partners. And just as a disclaimer, 261 00:16:03,751 --> 00:16:06,751 Speaker 3: I am stepping down from the Kennewey Chamber of Commerce 262 00:16:07,071 --> 00:16:09,631 Speaker 3: at the end of December. We've just hired our new CEO. 263 00:16:10,231 --> 00:16:13,791 Speaker 3: He's just says dynamic, and I'll be supporting him through 264 00:16:13,831 --> 00:16:17,271 Speaker 3: his at least his first year. But Shelley over it 265 00:16:18,031 --> 00:16:21,871 Speaker 3: at Anz is absolutely remarkable. I love Shelley. She is 266 00:16:21,951 --> 00:16:23,951 Speaker 3: the type of person you know a lot of folks 267 00:16:23,951 --> 00:16:27,231 Speaker 3: you meet it's about looking at the watch. They're always 268 00:16:27,231 --> 00:16:29,471 Speaker 3: looking at the watch. They're trying to figure out how they, 269 00:16:29,591 --> 00:16:33,471 Speaker 3: you know, get to the next meeting. But Shelley, she 270 00:16:34,591 --> 00:16:37,191 Speaker 3: engages with you like you're the only person in the room. 271 00:16:37,831 --> 00:16:42,671 Speaker 3: No one can interrupt or discon make that disconnection. Shelley 272 00:16:43,031 --> 00:16:47,191 Speaker 3: at ann Z is the CEO's top pick. She should 273 00:16:47,191 --> 00:16:50,471 Speaker 3: receive the Employee of the Year this year. Ann said 274 00:16:50,471 --> 00:16:54,351 Speaker 3: has committed to do more with First Nations businesses, and 275 00:16:54,511 --> 00:16:57,591 Speaker 3: I believe them. They've just recently rolled out this dynamic 276 00:16:57,671 --> 00:17:01,991 Speaker 3: app for their for their for their customers, but also 277 00:17:02,351 --> 00:17:05,591 Speaker 3: they're really sitting at the table to say what can 278 00:17:05,631 --> 00:17:08,431 Speaker 3: we do? What can we do besides yellow gooods? How 279 00:17:08,431 --> 00:17:11,351 Speaker 3: can we help you with your cash flow? How can 280 00:17:11,351 --> 00:17:15,711 Speaker 3: we help you understand financial literacy a little bit better? 281 00:17:15,991 --> 00:17:20,591 Speaker 3: So everything is on the table, And this partnership came 282 00:17:21,271 --> 00:17:26,111 Speaker 3: as a result of other folks not really wanting to 283 00:17:26,231 --> 00:17:29,271 Speaker 3: truly engage, and an Zed said, you know what, We'll 284 00:17:29,311 --> 00:17:32,111 Speaker 3: come see you. They sent their upper cross to come 285 00:17:32,191 --> 00:17:35,791 Speaker 3: see us and sit in our boardroom and it's been 286 00:17:36,431 --> 00:17:40,991 Speaker 3: smooth sailing since. So in a nutshell, a Zed, I 287 00:17:41,031 --> 00:17:43,231 Speaker 3: tipped my hat off to you. You're doing a great job. 288 00:17:44,111 --> 00:17:46,831 Speaker 2: I've got to back you there. Not only because this 289 00:17:46,991 --> 00:17:50,151 Speaker 2: is an A and Z partnership series. I've been doing 290 00:17:50,231 --> 00:17:53,671 Speaker 2: business with A and Z for about seven years and 291 00:17:53,711 --> 00:17:57,391 Speaker 2: we've been rolling out cultural capability training right across their 292 00:17:57,431 --> 00:18:02,311 Speaker 2: business and then just supporting in different areas. So Shelley 293 00:18:02,551 --> 00:18:07,951 Speaker 2: and I've been working together on their First Nations engagement strategy. 294 00:18:08,031 --> 00:18:10,791 Speaker 2: So I've been doing some consulting and I can see 295 00:18:10,831 --> 00:18:14,951 Speaker 2: what's happening, and I know the impact that having a 296 00:18:15,071 --> 00:18:19,191 Speaker 2: First Nations woman or a First Sessions person in this 297 00:18:19,351 --> 00:18:22,391 Speaker 2: role for the very first time to lead up, you know, 298 00:18:22,431 --> 00:18:26,151 Speaker 2: like indigenous affairs. So there's some exciting things happening at 299 00:18:26,191 --> 00:18:29,831 Speaker 2: A and Z, but so exciting for our business as 300 00:18:29,871 --> 00:18:34,151 Speaker 2: our mob your members, do they get access to A 301 00:18:34,271 --> 00:18:38,031 Speaker 2: and Z or is there opportunities for your members that 302 00:18:38,151 --> 00:18:41,351 Speaker 2: are four hundred black businesses across the state of Victoria 303 00:18:41,991 --> 00:18:45,471 Speaker 2: to engage with A Z, Like how to A and 304 00:18:45,551 --> 00:18:48,391 Speaker 2: Z support the members not just the organization. 305 00:18:48,631 --> 00:18:52,071 Speaker 3: I think in terms of and Z, they're getting their 306 00:18:52,111 --> 00:18:55,551 Speaker 3: strategy together and they want it tight. We've just entered 307 00:18:55,551 --> 00:18:58,591 Speaker 3: into our partnership with them. They're in constant discussions about 308 00:18:58,871 --> 00:19:01,391 Speaker 3: how do we do it? So anytime we need some help, 309 00:19:01,751 --> 00:19:04,311 Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, A towsand can you have this business? 310 00:19:04,311 --> 00:19:06,311 Speaker 3: Can you we need you know, we need to set 311 00:19:06,351 --> 00:19:08,271 Speaker 3: up an account, you know first, can we get some 312 00:19:08,471 --> 00:19:10,751 Speaker 3: financial literacy? Can you you know, throw us a little 313 00:19:10,751 --> 00:19:14,271 Speaker 3: package together? And they're relentless. They make it move, they 314 00:19:14,311 --> 00:19:16,671 Speaker 3: make it happen. So if you don't have a bank, 315 00:19:16,991 --> 00:19:19,271 Speaker 3: somebody that's going to walk step by step with you 316 00:19:19,311 --> 00:19:22,711 Speaker 3: to help you understand those financial questions that sometimes you're 317 00:19:22,711 --> 00:19:26,031 Speaker 3: too embarrassed to ask about. Hey, don't feel embarrassed. We're 318 00:19:26,071 --> 00:19:28,551 Speaker 3: not all accountants. You know, that's what they get paid 319 00:19:28,551 --> 00:19:31,791 Speaker 3: for to advise us, so utilize and that bank. 320 00:19:32,191 --> 00:19:35,751 Speaker 2: So that's the indigenous small business banking services that there's 321 00:19:35,791 --> 00:19:38,951 Speaker 2: a program there, so google it or jump into our 322 00:19:38,991 --> 00:19:41,631 Speaker 2: show notes so that you can read more. You know, 323 00:19:41,671 --> 00:19:44,591 Speaker 2: brother Donald, there are many banks in this country. You 324 00:19:44,631 --> 00:19:47,511 Speaker 2: know that there's some big banks and small banks, but 325 00:19:47,591 --> 00:19:51,071 Speaker 2: not all of them have indigenous business bankers. So when 326 00:19:51,071 --> 00:19:55,111 Speaker 2: I saw Townsend on a call and they said, hey, 327 00:19:55,151 --> 00:19:58,551 Speaker 2: this is your new banker, I was like, okay, said brother, 328 00:19:58,591 --> 00:20:01,431 Speaker 2: you're like the real deal. You're not just supporting the 329 00:20:01,631 --> 00:20:07,271 Speaker 2: business bankers. I had never seen a black feller in 330 00:20:07,311 --> 00:20:11,311 Speaker 2: that role before. It's so empowering, right, but really importantly 331 00:20:11,591 --> 00:20:13,471 Speaker 2: just for our mob to be able to talk to 332 00:20:13,511 --> 00:20:17,951 Speaker 2: somebody like us, and I don't think people really understand 333 00:20:17,991 --> 00:20:22,711 Speaker 2: how important it is. We feel much more comfortable, you know, 334 00:20:22,751 --> 00:20:25,471 Speaker 2: there's no shame there. I was going through a bit 335 00:20:25,471 --> 00:20:27,911 Speaker 2: of a tough time Donald, earlier this year with cash 336 00:20:27,991 --> 00:20:32,871 Speaker 2: flow December January for me as a business, you know, 337 00:20:32,951 --> 00:20:36,591 Speaker 2: doing training where everything kind of you know, shuts down 338 00:20:36,631 --> 00:20:40,311 Speaker 2: and everyone's going on Christmas holidays. There's always this kind 339 00:20:40,311 --> 00:20:43,471 Speaker 2: of struggle. January February. Then we're back on our feets 340 00:20:43,471 --> 00:20:46,591 Speaker 2: and then we're you know, kicking goals. I just need 341 00:20:46,631 --> 00:20:48,831 Speaker 2: to put things in place, Like I've got two mortgages. 342 00:20:49,391 --> 00:20:52,591 Speaker 2: I just need to make sure that I've got eleven staff. 343 00:20:52,631 --> 00:20:53,831 Speaker 2: There's eleven salaries. 344 00:20:55,231 --> 00:20:56,111 Speaker 1: This business. 345 00:20:56,231 --> 00:20:59,031 Speaker 2: This business is really important in terms of the impact 346 00:20:59,031 --> 00:21:02,791 Speaker 2: that we have in this country by developing, you know, 347 00:21:02,871 --> 00:21:08,511 Speaker 2: cultural capability and helping more Australians understand who we are 348 00:21:08,551 --> 00:21:13,111 Speaker 2: as First Nations peoples and also understand the history of 349 00:21:13,151 --> 00:21:17,671 Speaker 2: this country. So we were able to get through without 350 00:21:17,711 --> 00:21:18,831 Speaker 2: getting an overdraft. 351 00:21:18,951 --> 00:21:20,711 Speaker 1: I love it or alone, I love it. 352 00:21:20,751 --> 00:21:25,271 Speaker 2: We got through. There's some other deadly black fellows at 353 00:21:25,311 --> 00:21:29,071 Speaker 2: A and Z. Have you been able to go and 354 00:21:29,111 --> 00:21:31,511 Speaker 2: connect with any of the other mob at A and 355 00:21:31,591 --> 00:21:31,991 Speaker 2: Z yet? 356 00:21:32,031 --> 00:21:34,231 Speaker 3: Donald, Yeah, I had. I wouldn't had dinner with the 357 00:21:34,231 --> 00:21:40,191 Speaker 3: CEO and all the directors and to represent Kennaway. Yeah, 358 00:21:40,231 --> 00:21:41,991 Speaker 3: I was the only black man in the room. But 359 00:21:42,191 --> 00:21:45,031 Speaker 3: you know, I'm a big presence. I'm six foot four 360 00:21:45,191 --> 00:21:49,111 Speaker 3: and I don't mind talking about the issues that our 361 00:21:49,151 --> 00:21:52,071 Speaker 3: businesses are going through. Cash flow was one of them, 362 00:21:52,191 --> 00:21:54,671 Speaker 3: and the fact that we need to do more and 363 00:21:54,951 --> 00:21:57,951 Speaker 3: don't I don't hold back maybe it's because of my 364 00:21:58,031 --> 00:22:02,231 Speaker 3: political background or my in terms of you know, serving 365 00:22:02,271 --> 00:22:05,391 Speaker 3: as a corporate lawyer. By the way, reach out check 366 00:22:05,431 --> 00:22:10,951 Speaker 3: out my website www dot bettslogco dot com. Uh. But yes, 367 00:22:11,031 --> 00:22:14,511 Speaker 3: I sat with these gentlemen and these ladies had Google 368 00:22:14,551 --> 00:22:17,711 Speaker 3: on one on one side, I had Deloyd on the other. 369 00:22:18,031 --> 00:22:20,951 Speaker 3: And it's just about, you know, having that presence, not 370 00:22:21,111 --> 00:22:25,391 Speaker 3: being afraid to talk about Aboriginal business, not being afraid 371 00:22:25,671 --> 00:22:28,871 Speaker 3: to let them know that Aboriginal businesses are just as 372 00:22:28,911 --> 00:22:32,751 Speaker 3: formidable as any other business. It's just that you gotta 373 00:22:32,791 --> 00:22:34,391 Speaker 3: give them a chance. You've got to give them a 374 00:22:34,391 --> 00:22:36,991 Speaker 3: seat at the table, let them sit down, and then 375 00:22:37,031 --> 00:22:40,351 Speaker 3: you will be astonished at what goes on. We can 376 00:22:40,431 --> 00:22:43,471 Speaker 3: do anything from Kyrol Jenics to chocoer Chips. You know, 377 00:22:43,551 --> 00:22:46,711 Speaker 3: it's like you know what I mean, show us, show us, 378 00:22:46,831 --> 00:22:48,951 Speaker 3: show us the table. We'll sit at it and then 379 00:22:48,991 --> 00:22:51,311 Speaker 3: you'll be You'll be You'll be happy. You did you know? 380 00:22:51,551 --> 00:22:54,231 Speaker 3: We have the first paint company, Jigga Jigga Paints. We 381 00:22:54,311 --> 00:22:58,231 Speaker 3: have a dynamic flooring company, dream Time Flooring, and a 382 00:22:58,351 --> 00:23:04,231 Speaker 3: Predummer Range, dream Time Range, Beautiful Pajummer Range, beautiful silks. 383 00:23:04,511 --> 00:23:07,471 Speaker 3: I mean you can do so much with logging on 384 00:23:07,551 --> 00:23:11,831 Speaker 3: the Kinawey dot com dot au or I mean Kinawey 385 00:23:11,871 --> 00:23:16,191 Speaker 3: dot yeah, Knaway dot com dot au. Check out the website, 386 00:23:16,431 --> 00:23:19,111 Speaker 3: reach out to our other deadly black businesses in the 387 00:23:19,191 --> 00:23:24,151 Speaker 3: North Northern Territory, in Western Australia and Queensland. You will 388 00:23:24,471 --> 00:23:28,151 Speaker 3: be astonished at what we can do. So when it 389 00:23:28,191 --> 00:23:32,151 Speaker 3: comes to anzed, they recognize that now they see the 390 00:23:32,191 --> 00:23:36,311 Speaker 3: bigger global picture and the fact that Aboriginal torchtrae doll 391 00:23:36,351 --> 00:23:39,311 Speaker 3: in their business owners are not singing tight in the 392 00:23:39,351 --> 00:23:41,751 Speaker 3: country and they're going over to China and Italy and 393 00:23:42,311 --> 00:23:46,471 Speaker 3: the United States and Canada to do business. I believe 394 00:23:46,511 --> 00:23:48,871 Speaker 3: these banks are looking at saying, ooh, we better get 395 00:23:48,911 --> 00:23:52,671 Speaker 3: some of this. This is this is a dynamic time 396 00:23:52,791 --> 00:23:57,031 Speaker 3: to be an Aboriginal business owner. I mean dynamic in 397 00:23:57,071 --> 00:24:00,591 Speaker 3: the construction space, renewal, energy space. I just get excited 398 00:24:00,671 --> 00:24:03,551 Speaker 3: talking about it, really, I think, and I think the 399 00:24:03,791 --> 00:24:09,551 Speaker 3: banks particularly understands that and. 400 00:24:08,911 --> 00:24:10,271 Speaker 1: This is what we need. 401 00:24:11,231 --> 00:24:14,231 Speaker 2: We need to be able to get people to see 402 00:24:14,391 --> 00:24:18,951 Speaker 2: the value that Aboriginal businesses bring to the table. Yes, 403 00:24:19,271 --> 00:24:21,111 Speaker 2: you know they say that for every one dollar you 404 00:24:21,191 --> 00:24:24,431 Speaker 2: spend with an Aboriginal business, the social impact equals four 405 00:24:24,471 --> 00:24:29,031 Speaker 2: dollars forty one and that you know, that helps me 406 00:24:29,191 --> 00:24:32,351 Speaker 2: support many people in my community that say, you know, 407 00:24:32,391 --> 00:24:34,031 Speaker 2: how did you get into business? Can you have a 408 00:24:34,071 --> 00:24:37,911 Speaker 2: look at my logo? Or can your producer produce my podcast? 409 00:24:37,911 --> 00:24:40,791 Speaker 2: Because I don't have any money. We do so much 410 00:24:40,871 --> 00:24:43,911 Speaker 2: for our communities. We are we are constantly giving back 411 00:24:43,951 --> 00:24:46,551 Speaker 2: to our community and we need to make sure that 412 00:24:46,591 --> 00:24:50,151 Speaker 2: we can. You know that it's sustainable as well. So 413 00:24:50,271 --> 00:24:54,151 Speaker 2: when people become members of Kinawei, do they. 414 00:24:54,031 --> 00:24:57,711 Speaker 1: Pay a fee? Like just so for Victorian businesses. 415 00:24:57,791 --> 00:25:00,311 Speaker 2: If you're listening to this podcast or you're watching it 416 00:25:00,351 --> 00:25:03,551 Speaker 2: on YouTube, how does an Aboriginal business or a touch 417 00:25:03,751 --> 00:25:05,711 Speaker 2: on the business join up? 418 00:25:06,151 --> 00:25:09,831 Speaker 3: Okay, so we have four different categories. The top category 419 00:25:10,031 --> 00:25:12,911 Speaker 3: is the Daily Black membership. These are for businesses that 420 00:25:12,951 --> 00:25:16,671 Speaker 3: are already procuring five million, twenty million, one hundred million 421 00:25:16,711 --> 00:25:19,911 Speaker 3: dollar contracts. They come on board five thousand dollars for 422 00:25:20,071 --> 00:25:23,751 Speaker 3: Daily Black and with that five thousand dollars says each one, 423 00:25:23,831 --> 00:25:25,991 Speaker 3: reach one, teach one, We take that back and we 424 00:25:26,111 --> 00:25:28,631 Speaker 3: give it to members that can't afford it. Right, so 425 00:25:28,671 --> 00:25:30,991 Speaker 3: we'll if if there's a member that comes to us, 426 00:25:31,031 --> 00:25:33,151 Speaker 3: no one is turned away. I just want to put 427 00:25:33,151 --> 00:25:34,791 Speaker 3: that out there and be clear that no one has 428 00:25:34,871 --> 00:25:37,431 Speaker 3: turned away because we have these daily black members and 429 00:25:37,511 --> 00:25:41,551 Speaker 3: saying don't turn anybody away. You know, we're gonna support 430 00:25:41,591 --> 00:25:45,391 Speaker 3: that membership for that young Aboriginal businesses, for that new startup. 431 00:25:45,671 --> 00:25:47,911 Speaker 3: The entry fee is one hundred and fifty dollars. That's 432 00:25:47,951 --> 00:25:52,751 Speaker 3: the that's the the gold the gold Dust Member, the 433 00:25:52,751 --> 00:25:55,951 Speaker 3: gold Dust Member, and that's the entry level where you 434 00:25:55,951 --> 00:25:58,391 Speaker 3: get certification, you get a little help here and there, 435 00:25:58,431 --> 00:26:01,751 Speaker 3: you might get a podcast. And I don't know all 436 00:26:01,791 --> 00:26:05,791 Speaker 3: of the levels. You gotta talk kylgar under woman Georgina Parissi. 437 00:26:05,991 --> 00:26:08,111 Speaker 3: If you want to know the details about the memberships, 438 00:26:08,311 --> 00:26:12,071 Speaker 3: then there's this special category the Sapphire Till Member, the 439 00:26:12,111 --> 00:26:16,231 Speaker 3: Sapphire Teal member, and all of these names were created 440 00:26:16,271 --> 00:26:21,551 Speaker 3: by the Bevin Melman, the director of Jigga Jiga Pant. 441 00:26:21,631 --> 00:26:24,391 Speaker 3: So these these are actually paint colors you can get. 442 00:26:24,471 --> 00:26:29,031 Speaker 3: So Sapphire Till is from the Sapphires movie, you know, 443 00:26:29,871 --> 00:26:32,671 Speaker 3: with Devor Melman. So we call that Sapphire Till is 444 00:26:32,711 --> 00:26:37,871 Speaker 3: an artistic creative space for artists. That's three hundred dollars. 445 00:26:37,911 --> 00:26:41,751 Speaker 3: But we've waived the fee for members in that category 446 00:26:41,791 --> 00:26:43,831 Speaker 3: if they donate a piece of art that we can 447 00:26:43,871 --> 00:26:46,711 Speaker 3: then sell off to help support the chamber. And then 448 00:26:46,751 --> 00:26:50,271 Speaker 3: there's the desert Red Dusk and that's the seven fifty Again, 449 00:26:50,351 --> 00:26:55,991 Speaker 3: that's another category of member. And that's what's so dynamic 450 00:26:55,991 --> 00:27:00,871 Speaker 3: about Kennaway. We give everything that we raised, we get back. 451 00:27:01,111 --> 00:27:03,191 Speaker 3: We've also laid out an app for all of our 452 00:27:03,231 --> 00:27:06,351 Speaker 3: members that joins the Kinawet app and it's a way 453 00:27:06,391 --> 00:27:09,551 Speaker 3: for folks like an Zi to you know, an Zi 454 00:27:09,711 --> 00:27:15,111 Speaker 3: to track social procurement. So it's track their social procurement dollars. 455 00:27:15,111 --> 00:27:18,551 Speaker 3: If they engage with our members, they can do that 456 00:27:18,631 --> 00:27:21,031 Speaker 3: all through the Kinawet app. And if you come into 457 00:27:21,031 --> 00:27:23,791 Speaker 3: the Kinaway Business Awards, you'll be able to download that 458 00:27:23,911 --> 00:27:27,471 Speaker 3: app for free for one year in order to engage 459 00:27:27,511 --> 00:27:30,071 Speaker 3: with our businesses and and do all of those things. 460 00:27:30,111 --> 00:27:33,831 Speaker 3: So have you heard of a gentleman by the name 461 00:27:33,871 --> 00:27:36,311 Speaker 3: of Patty Meals? Do you know a guy named Patty Mells. 462 00:27:36,791 --> 00:27:39,191 Speaker 1: I actually lived down the road from his mom and dad. 463 00:27:39,351 --> 00:27:42,671 Speaker 3: Well, you know, Patty Mills just entered, you know, the 464 00:27:42,791 --> 00:27:45,751 Speaker 3: US and Australia has been on this kick about indigenous 465 00:27:45,751 --> 00:27:49,551 Speaker 3: to Indigenous business between Australia and the United States and 466 00:27:49,711 --> 00:27:52,871 Speaker 3: it's kicked off. Patty Mills just signed a joint venture 467 00:27:53,111 --> 00:27:57,031 Speaker 3: partnership with the first Native American company to be registered 468 00:27:57,071 --> 00:28:01,031 Speaker 3: in Australia called of Conda, Titoba. The company's name is 469 00:28:01,151 --> 00:28:05,351 Speaker 3: econdom Meals econom Meals just open their bank account with 470 00:28:05,471 --> 00:28:08,831 Speaker 3: an air Bank. So it's all coming together in a 471 00:28:08,871 --> 00:28:12,311 Speaker 3: beautiful way. So I'm excited that these opportunities, these joint 472 00:28:12,391 --> 00:28:16,511 Speaker 3: ventures and these business opportunities are happening for our First 473 00:28:16,591 --> 00:28:20,631 Speaker 3: Nations people with the help of the dynamic team at 474 00:28:20,631 --> 00:28:21,391 Speaker 3: an air Bank. 475 00:28:22,031 --> 00:28:23,871 Speaker 2: Donald, my brother. I just want to get onto you 476 00:28:24,351 --> 00:28:26,791 Speaker 2: and I will be hitting you up after this podcast. 477 00:28:28,071 --> 00:28:29,351 Speaker 1: We need to stay connected. 478 00:28:29,591 --> 00:28:32,071 Speaker 2: We need to get some of these deadly black businesses 479 00:28:32,271 --> 00:28:36,391 Speaker 2: on this podcast. Can't wait to come to the World 480 00:28:36,591 --> 00:28:40,351 Speaker 2: Indigenous Business Forum, which is going to be held in 481 00:28:40,431 --> 00:28:45,351 Speaker 2: the Cooler Nations next year twenty twenty five. But look, 482 00:28:45,391 --> 00:28:48,631 Speaker 2: I just want to say thank you on behalf of 483 00:28:48,831 --> 00:28:52,191 Speaker 2: just our people, for someone like you to come and 484 00:28:52,271 --> 00:28:57,311 Speaker 2: show us what is possible, that realizes our potential and 485 00:28:57,431 --> 00:29:01,831 Speaker 2: knows what value we can bring to the world. Yeah, 486 00:29:01,871 --> 00:29:04,551 Speaker 2: there's not many people that I've met in my lifetime 487 00:29:04,671 --> 00:29:07,711 Speaker 2: like you. So it's been an absolute privilege to even 488 00:29:07,791 --> 00:29:10,271 Speaker 2: have half an hour with you on this podcast. 489 00:29:10,511 --> 00:29:13,231 Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's an honor to be with you, sister, and 490 00:29:13,591 --> 00:29:16,471 Speaker 3: call on me anytime. Let's let's make these Let's make 491 00:29:16,551 --> 00:29:20,751 Speaker 3: real generational wealth, seven generations deep, seven generations deep. It's 492 00:29:20,791 --> 00:29:21,991 Speaker 3: important we do that. 493 00:29:22,511 --> 00:29:23,391 Speaker 1: Let's do it well. 494 00:29:23,391 --> 00:29:25,911 Speaker 2: Look, I need to let you go, but I just 495 00:29:25,951 --> 00:29:28,591 Speaker 2: want to say if any of our listeners that are 496 00:29:28,591 --> 00:29:31,551 Speaker 2: ablutional and touch on to people that actually reside in 497 00:29:31,591 --> 00:29:34,911 Speaker 2: the state of Victoria, reach out to kin Away and 498 00:29:34,951 --> 00:29:37,431 Speaker 2: see how you can become a member. I think it's 499 00:29:37,471 --> 00:29:42,031 Speaker 2: extremely important as a businesswoman myself to join your your 500 00:29:42,111 --> 00:29:45,271 Speaker 2: chambers of commerce, to make sure that you are surrounded 501 00:29:45,271 --> 00:29:48,471 Speaker 2: by people in a community that can support you, that 502 00:29:48,591 --> 00:29:51,991 Speaker 2: can guide you, that can mentor you. And sometimes we 503 00:29:52,111 --> 00:29:55,871 Speaker 2: just need, you know, someone else that's got some experience 504 00:29:55,951 --> 00:29:59,111 Speaker 2: to give us some advice. So it's so good to 505 00:29:59,111 --> 00:30:03,911 Speaker 2: see that kin Away is literally I just I didn't 506 00:30:03,911 --> 00:30:07,511 Speaker 2: think Kinawey was doing big things. I knew Kinaway was 507 00:30:07,551 --> 00:30:10,191 Speaker 2: pretty deadly because I see a lot of things that's 508 00:30:10,231 --> 00:30:13,911 Speaker 2: happening online. I've been to a few events, but taking 509 00:30:14,511 --> 00:30:17,471 Speaker 2: average normal touch onto businesses globally. 510 00:30:17,751 --> 00:30:19,111 Speaker 1: Has blown my mind. 511 00:30:19,151 --> 00:30:22,031 Speaker 2: And I'm sure all of our listeners and viewers that 512 00:30:22,151 --> 00:30:24,911 Speaker 2: are that are watching and listening are probably thinking the 513 00:30:24,951 --> 00:30:30,311 Speaker 2: same thing, that they're pretty tough that this partnership with 514 00:30:30,431 --> 00:30:34,271 Speaker 2: Black Magic Women and am Z exists. Otherwise I probably 515 00:30:34,311 --> 00:30:36,071 Speaker 2: wouldn't have the opportunity. 516 00:30:35,591 --> 00:30:36,631 Speaker 1: To have this yarn with you. 517 00:30:36,831 --> 00:30:41,151 Speaker 2: So thank you, thank you very much, and I'm looking 518 00:30:41,191 --> 00:30:44,031 Speaker 2: forward to coming and see you. I'm actually in arm 519 00:30:44,111 --> 00:30:44,671 Speaker 2: next week. 520 00:30:44,791 --> 00:30:47,871 Speaker 3: You watch, let's COMMCT, let's COMMITCT. 521 00:30:47,871 --> 00:30:50,071 Speaker 1: We've got to come there, Let's do it. Let's do it. 522 00:30:50,111 --> 00:30:52,791 Speaker 2: So look, I'll let you go. Thank you very much. 523 00:30:53,311 --> 00:30:56,831 Speaker 2: It's been an absolute pleasure hearing the great work that 524 00:30:56,871 --> 00:31:00,151 Speaker 2: you're doing in this space. And I can just see 525 00:31:00,151 --> 00:31:03,511 Speaker 2: the impact already. The world don't even know what's about. 526 00:31:03,271 --> 00:31:05,791 Speaker 3: To happen, no idea. 527 00:31:06,111 --> 00:31:08,911 Speaker 2: Oh good, my brother. Enjoy the rest of your afternoon. 528 00:31:09,231 --> 00:31:11,751 Speaker 2: Thank you again for making time. 529 00:31:13,071 --> 00:31:15,111 Speaker 4: If you'd like to know more about how A and 530 00:31:15,231 --> 00:31:18,751 Speaker 4: Z can help improve your financial wellbeing or help you start, 531 00:31:19,031 --> 00:31:22,671 Speaker 4: run or grow your business, visit aanz dot com or 532 00:31:22,751 --> 00:31:25,431 Speaker 4: call one three one three one four. 533 00:31:27,431 --> 00:31:29,791 Speaker 2: A big shout out to all you Deadly Mob and 534 00:31:29,871 --> 00:31:33,551 Speaker 2: allies who continue to listen, watch, and support our podcast. 535 00:31:33,791 --> 00:31:37,431 Speaker 1: Your feedback means the world. You can rate and review. 536 00:31:37,151 --> 00:31:40,191 Speaker 2: The podcast on Apple and Spotify, or even head to 537 00:31:40,231 --> 00:31:43,071 Speaker 2: our socials and YouTube channel and drop us a line. 538 00:31:43,271 --> 00:31:44,391 Speaker 1: We'd love to hear from you. 539 00:31:45,111 --> 00:31:48,631 Speaker 2: The Black Magic Woman podcast is produced by Clint Curtis.