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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: Well, it seems for a lot of people the Voice

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Speaker 2: to Parliament has been a confusing topic.

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Speaker 1: What will change for us? What does it mean?

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Speaker 2: These are the questions people are finding themselves asking, especially

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Speaker 2: over the last few days after the voice referendum past

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Speaker 2: the Senate. The questions need an answer, and the best

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Speaker 2: person to explain all of this to us is the Prime.

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Speaker 1: Minister himself, Mister Anthony Albanize.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Hello, Prime Minister Amanda good Jones.

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Speaker 4: How I didn't realize that you were a Tea Swizzle fan.

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Speaker 4: I thought you were an echo on the bunny Man,

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Speaker 4: sort of Triple J guy. But you're a big fan

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Speaker 4: of Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm a bit of both. I really got into

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Speaker 3: Tay through folklore and evermore when she released those two

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Speaker 3: albums that I find. I think her song Riti is extraordinary.

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Speaker 3: So I really like her.

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Speaker 4: And it's good that you're the PM now because you'll

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Speaker 4: get a primo seat.

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Speaker 1: Oh you'll be in a box for sure.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about that, but we'll see how we go.

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Speaker 4: I think you have to.

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Speaker 3: I've got three Origin games, two of them Parliament City,

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Speaker 3: and one of them have been in Lithuania, so I'm

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Speaker 3: not always in control of my diary.

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Speaker 4: It's a good thing in missed origin last night.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we all wanted to be in Lithuania last year.

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Speaker 4: I would have liked to have been in Lithuanian.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, we might just focus on the ashes.

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Speaker 1: I think let's do that. We take the wins where

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Speaker 1: we can get them.

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Speaker 4: We have spoken to you at length about the voice,

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Speaker 4: and as we get closer to the referendum coming up

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Speaker 4: I believe in October now, the questions are coming in

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Speaker 4: thick and fast.

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Speaker 2: We ask people to email us some of the things,

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Speaker 2: and I think we've got a couple of questions here

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Speaker 2: that seem to hit the spot with a lot of

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Speaker 2: people who are thinking of voting No and their concerns.

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Speaker 2: So here's one from David Prime Minister. He said, well,

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Speaker 2: white Australia have to pay black Australia in compensation.

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Speaker 3: No, really, clearly, that isn't what this is about. It's

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Speaker 3: about just two things. It's about recognizing average and tyres

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Speaker 3: straight Islander people in our nation's constitution, recognizing the great

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Speaker 3: privilege we have for sharing this amazing continent of ours

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Speaker 3: with the oldest continuous culture on Earth. So simple thing

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Speaker 3: that's happened everywhere else in the world does that we

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Speaker 3: have an advanced economy that's a former colony. And the

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Speaker 3: second thing it's simply about is giving Indigenous people a body,

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Speaker 3: a voice in which they can be consulted and listen

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Speaker 3: to about matters that directly affect them. So that sort

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Speaker 3: of argument has been put up for a whole lot

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Speaker 3: of things, and people might like to think back to

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Speaker 3: the apology that was given to the Stolen Generations in

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Speaker 3: two thousand and eight, that we said then and have

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Speaker 3: all those consequences. There was this big fear campaign and

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Speaker 3: that's because if you've got no serious arguments against it,

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Speaker 3: then there's a whole lot of fear campaigns. There's no

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Speaker 3: downside here.

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Speaker 2: On the upside, We've got a question from Tom who

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Speaker 2: said how powerful will this Indigenous Advisory Group be.

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Speaker 3: Well, it will be a consulative body. It won't have

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Speaker 3: a writer of veto over the Parliament, doesn't change any

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Speaker 3: ways in which our laws are made. It simply will

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Speaker 3: have the opportunity to have a voice on those matters

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Speaker 3: that directly affect average and tyres straight islander people. So

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Speaker 3: we know, for example, there's an eight year life expectancy gap.

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Speaker 3: If you're a young Indigenous Australian, if you're a teenager today,

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Speaker 3: you have more chance of going to jail than going

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Speaker 3: to university. Now, we need to do better than that.

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Speaker 3: Infant mortality rates are a third world. We need to

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Speaker 3: do better than that. And we can do better. And

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Speaker 3: what this is about, Arnie pat Anderson said it really

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Speaker 3: well at the press conference. When you consult people, you

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Speaker 3: just get better results. And that is really what this

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Speaker 4: Because it seems and this is Jenny she read it

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Speaker 4: in we have the homeless and people struggling to pay

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Speaker 4: rent and buy home. How come we are wasting money

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Speaker 4: on a referendum when even the Indigenous people don't want it.

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Speaker 3: Well, Indigenous people overwhelmingly want it. All the surveys show

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Speaker 3: that somewhere between eighty and ninety percent of Indigenous Australians

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Speaker 3: want this. This came from them. This isn't something that's

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Speaker 3: come from Canberra. There was a five year process leading

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Speaker 3: up to a First nation's constitutional convention. When some of

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Speaker 3: your listeners will have heard of the ULARU statement from

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Speaker 3: the heart, that's where it came from. Delegates from all

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Speaker 3: over Australia came together and they said, yes, we want

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Speaker 3: to be recognized in the Constitution, but this is a

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Speaker 3: form we want that recognition to take. So it is

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Speaker 3: important for Australia to go forward, if not now, when

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Speaker 3: we've been talking about this since mister Howard spoke about

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Speaker 3: constitutional recognition as Prime Minister last century, and we need to,

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Speaker 3: I think, do better. The New Zealanders, for example, they

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Speaker 3: had recognition back in the nineteenth century. Canada did it

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Speaker 3: last century. Australia, I think needs to do this and

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Speaker 3: we'll feel better about ourselves as well.

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Speaker 4: And how much will this cost for the taxpayer when

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Speaker 4: it passes, if indeed the yesde gets through.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think this will save money. And the reason

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Speaker 3: why it'll save money is that everyone knows that it's

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Speaker 3: been billions of dollars expended on education and health and housing.

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Speaker 3: Governments of all persuasions have, with the best of intentions,

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Speaker 3: expended a lot of taxpayers money trying to close that

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Speaker 3: gap between Indigenous and non Indigenous Australia. But the truth

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Speaker 3: is that in so many areas it's not going forwards,

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Speaker 3: it's going backwards. It's going it's not going forwards to

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Speaker 3: the targets, for example on year twelve completions. Now, if

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Speaker 3: the money is spent better and more efficiently and in

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Speaker 3: a way that gives people that ownership over the way

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Speaker 3: that programs are run by being listened to, the voice

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Speaker 3: won't run any programs itself. It won't be a funding body.

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Speaker 3: It will simply be an advisory body, just like we

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Speaker 3: have a range of other advisory bodies. This will be

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Speaker 3: a special one because it will be listening to people who,

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Speaker 3: of course are the original owners of the land that

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Speaker 3: we share with them.

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Speaker 4: And it's ceremonial. So in summary, it's not going to

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Speaker 4: cost us as far as reparations go. We're not going

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Speaker 4: to have to pay indigenous people rent or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 4: It's not that it's.

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Speaker 1: Not a third chamber of Parliament and.

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Speaker 4: It's not a third chamber of Parliament. It's not a

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Speaker 4: part of it.

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Speaker 3: No, it certainly isn't and people should have a look

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Speaker 3: at the there's three causes in the constitutional changes proposed

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Speaker 3: and it's pretty pretty clear I think if people look

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Speaker 3: at it. It says in recognition of average on Tire

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Speaker 3: Strait Islander peoples as the first purpose of Australia one,

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Speaker 3: there shall be a body to be called the Voice. Two,

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Speaker 3: the Voice may make representations to the Parliament and the

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Speaker 3: Executive Government of the Comal on matters relating to average

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Speaker 3: on Tarisho Island of People's And the third is important

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Speaker 3: because it's about the primacy of the Parliament and it

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Speaker 3: says the Parliament shall, subjects is constitution, have power to

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Speaker 3: make laws with respect to matters related relating to the Voice,

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Speaker 3: including its composition, functions, powers and procedures. So on an

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Speaker 3: ongoing basis. The Parliament remains completely in charge all that

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Speaker 3: the constitutional changes is the principal and the principle is

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Speaker 3: simply that we should consult indigenous people on matters that

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Speaker 3: affect them.

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Speaker 1: Seems fair enough to make absolutely it does well.

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Speaker 4: Prime Minister, thank you for joining us again. I'll just

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Speaker 4: give you a hot inside tip. After eight thirty this morning,

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Speaker 4: we're giving away Taylor Swift tickets. Okay, oh don't tell.

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Speaker 3: Any I might see if I can ring in.

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Speaker 4: That's disguising the parliamentary privilege.

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Speaker 3: The line that I rang in this morning, I reckon

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Speaker 3: that's a pretty special line.

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Speaker 1: That's that's that's the hot line. You've got it.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for joining us this hot line.

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Speaker 3: Talk to you afterat thirty and thank you