1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: On today's show, Morgan Waterhouse's friends accuse Olivia Rodgers of infidelity, 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro's rollercoaster ride of a relationship, Kayla Asinas gets hitched, 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: and Lauren Curtis turns her nose up at kmart. Hello 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the hottest 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: influencer and pop culture news. I'm Kate Torbert and so 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: if we need to talk about your hens. Oh, I 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: had the best night. It was so much fun. You 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: guys definitely nailed the brief. I said that I wanted 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: it to be all about the table. What do you 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: guys call a table table scape? You were very specific 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: about what you wanted, which I appreciated because sometimes when 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: you're not given a very clear brief, it can go 13 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: very wrong. And I know we've had a bit of 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: a laugh because I threw around a couple of different 15 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: theme ideas. I wanted it to be tooty fruity, then 16 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: I wanted it to be ladulci vita, and that's what 17 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: I ended up settling on. And it looked stunning. It 18 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: was so colorful, exactly what I wanted. You guys found 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: the most beautiful flowers at the Central Market. They looked insane, 20 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: and I think we had a bit of a few 21 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: jealous tables looking at us because there was another table 22 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: that it was a Hen's party, and I think they 23 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: felt quite bad because they didn't really have any decorations 24 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, so I arrived first and there were 25 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: three long tables set up, so there was a middle 26 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: table that was another Hen's party, and they were all 27 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: dressed in pink. 28 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: They looked fabulous. However, I quickly. 29 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: Noticed that they were only going with the stuff that 30 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: the venue had provided, and I was bringing in all 31 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: these different things. So I had all these flowers, boxes 32 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: of fruits, place mats, you name it. We had at balloons. 33 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: It was so embarrassing because I brought out the big 34 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: helium balloons that spelled out Hen, and I heard one 35 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: of the other girls go, oh, do you think we 36 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: can quickly grab a photo with the hotel? 37 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: That was like get away. 38 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: Well, one of the girls came up to me and 39 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: she's like, oh my god, your party looks incredible. 40 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: We have to preface that this is. 41 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: The last stop we've been out all day, so that 42 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: made a bit more saus but they looked incredible. 43 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: The pink theme really went well. 44 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: My favorite element, and I'm giving you this kudos, Amy, 45 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: had to be the yellow sunglasses you got. So they're 46 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: the ones that you can write people's names on them, 47 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: and you had so much fun. You put missus Hancock 48 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: on mine. I'm not yet sure if that is going 49 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: to be my surname, but you kind of pushing me 50 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: in that direction. Well. It was lucky that the sunglasses 51 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: made it in time because I ordered them online blank 52 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: and then I had to individually hot glue gun all 53 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: of the letters on. But I had so much fun 54 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: doing it. It was actually quite relaxing. 55 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: See. 56 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: My favorite thing, and I'm just giving myself props because 57 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: I organized it, were the Scratchy so you can go 58 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: on Etsy and get a lot of personalized hens stuff made, 59 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: and I chose to have a find the Groom Scratchy, 60 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: so one person had Brandon's face and all of the 61 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: other ones were A grade celebrities and I had so 62 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: much fun picking all of the people out because a 63 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: lot of them included your celebrity crushes. However, you got 64 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: screwed over on the night of who you actually have? Yeah, 65 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: I got Joe Jonas. I think that he was the 66 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,839 Speaker 1: worst out of the pick. I did include a lot 67 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: of Taylor Swift's exes because we had to do around 68 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: twenty and I was running out of people that I 69 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: thought were hot, so I was like, Oh, chuck them 70 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: in there. It's so random, because I really wanted to 71 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: find Chase Stokes, who had him? Because that's my celebrity 72 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: crash and he's disappeared. He's disappeared from the whole thing. 73 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: Did you even order him? Yeah? If anyone was attending 74 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: the Hens and had him, can you let us know 75 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: because I'm started to think he wasn't there. 76 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: My name is Olivia Molly Rodgers. 77 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: Olivia Rodgers has been accused of cheating on her ex 78 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: boyfriend Morgan Waterhouse, just moments after confirming their split. The 79 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: accusations came from Morgan's friendship group now Sophie. Before we 80 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: get into those allegations, how did Olivia finally break the 81 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: news of their split. 82 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: This has been the worst kept secret. 83 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: There has been so much speculation about this relationship. We 84 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: all know that they've broken up, but neither of them 85 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: have actually come out and confirmed it. This was until 86 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: Olivia did a Q and A on her Instagram story 87 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: and she was inundated by followers asking her about her 88 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: relationship status with Morgan, so Olivia wrote, I am going 89 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: to answer this as ninety nine percent of the questions 90 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: are about this, which I totally understand. It's human nature 91 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: to be curious about these things. I am single, my 92 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: ex is a lovely person. Sometimes things just don't work out. 93 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: I've come to realize that there are certain things I 94 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: like to keep more private on socials moving forward, and 95 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: that part of my life is one of them. She continued, saying, 96 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: it's tricky to navigate breakups no matter what the situation is, 97 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: but particularly when you have people invested online. So that's 98 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: all they want to say about this. Thanks for understanding now. 99 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: This relationship has been a very public one, which was 100 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: surprising at the time because she had just come out 101 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: of a very public separation. So around her separation announcement, 102 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: Olivia also received criticism for having such a grand and 103 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: public wedding. I think a lot of people felt ripped 104 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: off because they felt invested in this marriage and they 105 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: followed along all of these glamorous events and were then 106 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: shocked when just eight months later they called it quits. Yeah, 107 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: so I was very surprised when Olivia made her relationship 108 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: with Morgan so public, and I don't think it helped 109 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: that he was also a budding influencer, because he really 110 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: bought into the relationship. I mean, the trip that they 111 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: went on to Barley just before they broke up was 112 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: so high publicized. They had photoshoots going on at their villas, videos, 113 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: you name it. 114 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 2: It was just everywhere. 115 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: And she did soft launch this relationship a lot before 116 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: coming out with it, and that built up a lot 117 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: of excitement and hype around it, and there was a 118 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: general consensus that everyone was really happy that she'd found 119 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: love again. But on the other hand, I think a 120 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: lot of people thought he was a rebound. Well, I 121 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: think a lot of people got the ick because he 122 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: was happy to be involved in her content as well. 123 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: I know it's hard to get tone from a written statement, 124 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: but it almost read as if she was putting the 125 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: blame on her social media followers for being interested in 126 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: their breakup. And that was kind of similar when she 127 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: came out and explained why she was getting separated, because 128 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: it seemed like she was almost trapped in having a 129 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: wedding because she'd put it out there so much and 130 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: people were so invested by saying it's hard to navigate 131 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 1: a breakup when people are invested online, it is putting 132 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: the onus on them. 133 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: But it's like the only reason. 134 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: People are invested is because you've drip fed this relationship. 135 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: It will be interesting to see what she does in 136 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: her new relationship, because she very much gave the after 137 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: her separation that she wouldn't be putting her relationship online, 138 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: and she quickly fell into that trap. Now what's got 139 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: everyone talking is Morgan and his friend's response. So an 140 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: hour after Olivia officially announced the breakup, Morgan shared a 141 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: cryptic quote on his Instagram story which said loyal behind 142 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: my back, That's my type. See when I originally saw 143 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: Morgan's quote and he was saying that his type is 144 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: someone that is loyal, I assumed he was paying kudos 145 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: to Olivia because she had shared this announcement saying that 146 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: he was such a lovely guy, and it seemed like 147 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: they had been friends, like they went running together recently, 148 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: they were liking each other's posts. Well, it's clear things 149 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,559 Speaker 1: didn't end as nicely as Olivia let on a social 150 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: media post, because Morgan's friends proceeded to accuse Olivia of cheating. 151 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: So these comments were made under Influencer Updates posts announcing 152 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: the breakup. One of the friends in question is Mick Mayo, 153 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: otherwise known as Slick Mick, who works alongside Morgan at 154 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: Champagne Lila. Now that name will sound familiar because it 155 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: is the event company that round that very controversial nightclub 156 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: event which used live reptiles. The other friend is Jacko Brazier. 157 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: He's actually Britney Saunder's ex boyfriend, and he hosts a 158 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: podcast with Morgan Waterhouse. He has over two hundred and 159 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: one thousand followers, and it is clear that they are 160 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: close friends because he is often tagged in Morgan's Instagram stories. Yeah, 161 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,119 Speaker 1: and they run a podcast. Yeah, exactly. Now, Mick Mayo 162 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: started the discussion saying that is because she wants to 163 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: keep her six sexual partners a secret while dating Morgan. Now, 164 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: Jacko wrote under that post six haha, that's being nice. 165 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: I do want to point out the Influencer Updates has 166 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: since turned off the comments. Now, those are pretty big 167 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: allegations to be writing on an influencer gossip account. It's 168 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: clear that they want that information to spread. It also 169 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: feels like the two men are acting as Morgan's mouthpieces, 170 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: and they've been instructed to try and smear her. 171 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: Good girl image. 172 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: It all feels very slutchamye to be prefacing sexual partners 173 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: and how many they are. Yeah, my first reaction was wow, 174 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: I can't they wrote that and it all seems very 175 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: gross to me. Well, it's very strategic to write it 176 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: on influencer updates, and as you said, Sophie, it did 177 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: feel like it was driven by Morgan. I mean, he 178 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: did put up his cryptic post and then those comments followed. 179 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: We do need to reiterate that these are unsubstantiated allegations, 180 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: and from my personal opinion, they do seem quite malicious. 181 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: If what they're saying is true. 182 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: I can understand seeing red and wanting to stick up 183 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: for your friend, because if these allegations are true, it 184 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: sounds like Morgan has perhaps only just found out about it. However, 185 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: I think that they could have gone about it in 186 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: a completely different way. If you did feel the need 187 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: to write something, maybe instead they could have said she 188 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: cheated on him. They didn't need to specify the number 189 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: of partners and refer to them as sexual partners, or 190 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: also let your friends speak for himself. I mean, he 191 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: has his own platform with over thirty thousand followers. He 192 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: is well within his rights to put out a statement. 193 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: He could have put something out that was a lot 194 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: classier than this. The thing that's quite interesting is things 195 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: seem to have really soured between the two of them 196 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: because they're both no longer following each other on Instagram. 197 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: My bet is that one of them blocked one another. 198 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: I'm not sure who blocked who first, because if you 199 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: go back, they do have photos up of one another, 200 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: but they're no longer tagged. 201 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: See. 202 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: I think Olivia obviously blocked him after she got wind 203 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: of his stupid friends running this shit. I do wonder 204 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: if Olivia wanted to get on the front foot and 205 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: set the narrative first though, by putting it out there 206 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: and say, oh, my ex is a lovely guy and 207 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: things just didn't work out, because then Morgan can't get 208 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: in first and say. 209 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 2: Hey, X, Y and z's happened. 210 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: It does come across as very bitter. It does put 211 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: a very big question mark over this whole breakup though, 212 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: because I found it very odd the way it's been navigated, 213 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: Because as we mentioned, they came back from that very 214 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: highly publicized month long trip to Bali in early August, 215 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: and then he was literally just nowhere to be seen 216 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: on her socials after being a main feature on there. 217 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: Then it seems like they were kind of catching up 218 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: a little bit here and there. They ran the marathon 219 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: together and they were liking each other's posts, so it 220 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: seemed like things were on better terms, and then for this. 221 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: To happen quite shocked. 222 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: Well. Olivia did say on the Life Uncut podcast that 223 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: she has a bad habit of throwing herself into new 224 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: relationships quite quickly, and I think that perhaps that's where 225 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: she's gone wrong in this situation, because it would be 226 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:16,359 Speaker 1: so tough coming out of a long relationship, particularly a marriage, 227 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: and then throwing yourself into a new relationship. She almost 228 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: does need to be single and maybe sleep around a 229 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: bit and have fun and not have this person that 230 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: she's got to be faithful and committed to. I mean, 231 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: that's completely her choice what she wants to do. I 232 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: do find it interesting that it seems like they've broken 233 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: up off the back of this holiday because they made 234 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: it look so picture perfect. 235 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: And again, I don't. 236 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: Want to say that I think any of these allegations 237 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: are correct, But on holidays, you're often sharing phones and 238 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: iPads and come you know, you've spend a lot of 239 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: time together. So if there was any truth to these rumors, yeah, 240 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: you probably. 241 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 2: Would find it out on a holiday. 242 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: Do you think he's put this out because he's fearful 243 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: about what Olivia is going to say about him in 244 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: her podcast. It is a clever way of setting the 245 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: narrative up up. I don't think that she is going 246 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: to comment further on this because she knows that it 247 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: will only draw more attention to it. 248 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 249 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: Well, she has totally ignored Morgan's friends comments and hasn't 250 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: responded in any way. The person I really feel for 251 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: is their mutual friend, Paul Vasaci, because he's the guy 252 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: who set them up. How terribly awkward for him. Well, 253 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: this is what happens when you set friends up. I 254 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: have to say, I am going to be tuning into 255 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: Morgan's podcast this week to see if they drop any 256 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: more details. 257 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: Maybe that's what they're hoping for. 258 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: Carlia Skin is such a camart Brant. Beauty influencer Lauren 259 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: Curtis has divided the Internet after she appeared to turn 260 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: her nose up and came up beauty products she was gifted. 261 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: While some corners of the Internet slammed her for being privileged, 262 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,479 Speaker 1: others said her honesty was refreshing. 263 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: So how did this all unfold? 264 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: Well? Lauren did an old school unboxing where she set 265 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: up her camera to capture her reaction to some pr 266 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: packages that she'd been gifted, and when she opened a 267 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: package from Kmart, she could not contain her disappointment to 268 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: discover that the box contained beauty products rather than Christmas 269 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: decorations that she was expecting. I can relate to that. 270 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: That would be very disappointing, came, I have some nice 271 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: Christmas decorations. Now in the box was a microdem abrasion 272 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: wand an LED face mask, brow lamination kit and LED 273 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: under eye patches. Let's throw to Lauren's reaction, Carlia skin Is. 274 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: That just a Kmark brand? M I know if that is, 275 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: But that's interesting. I guess I don't know. You guys 276 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 2: don't let me know how that works. Oh look this, 277 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: Oh it's just all I think. 278 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: This is all this Karlia skin stuff, microdmebrasion wand. 279 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: Wouldn't do this myself? 280 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: That's risky, I was thinking. 281 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: Also, going to be like Christmas stuff or something. 282 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: This is definitely not what I envisioned. 283 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: LV facial again, we're our. 284 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: Elimination kid, What are all these brands? 285 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: These are KMA brands All of a sudden, is no ratten. 286 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: Elid underwrite patches? 287 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: What the heck? Now? 288 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: In the vision, she kept pulling faces and looked somewhat 289 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: disgusted or maybe dumbfounded by the products. 290 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: That she was gifted. 291 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: She did mention in the video that she was actually 292 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: approached by kmart to see if she was interested in 293 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: accepting these gifted items, and that's why she thought they 294 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: were Christmas decorations. So I think that's why she was 295 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 1: extra disappointed, because she said, well, I wouldn't have actually 296 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: accepted these if I knew what they were. They probably 297 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: should have outlined that they were beauty products. Considering the 298 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: field that she's in, because for her to give a 299 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: glowing recommendation of something, if she doesn't actually align with 300 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: the product, I doesn't like the product, her reputation takes 301 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: a batter, and why would she do that for just 302 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: an item that she's been gifted, particularly an item that's 303 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: not even very expensive. Well, she did well, it is 304 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: clear that she is a big Kmart fan. I've seen 305 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: a lot of holes that she's done with Kmart products 306 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: that I think weren't even gifted. So I do really 307 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: respect that she was so honest about this because she 308 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: is an expert in the space, as you said, and 309 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: if she doesn't stand by these products, then good on 310 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: her for saying it. I mean she might have got 311 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: crossed off the Kmart gifting list. The thing is, pr 312 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: can be so complicated because whilst on paper, this looks 313 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: like a great brand alignment, if you're a beauty expert 314 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: or a beauty influencer, it can get complicated because for them, 315 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: they often already work with a set number of brands 316 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: that they're all products that they really love and they're 317 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: happy to promote, and they're then not going to give 318 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: a glowing review of this random product that they've just 319 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: been gift us. 320 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: It's really good. 321 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: I saw Georgia Richards also received the same gift box 322 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: from Kmart, and her reaction was completely different to Lauren Curtis's. 323 00:14:58,760 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: She was so excited. 324 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: However, but I think that Lauren Curtis's reaction is still 325 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: a positive for cam Up because any publicity is good 326 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: for publicity. 327 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: Now people know they've got led lights in kama. 328 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: I disagree because it's not like she was even willing 329 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: to try the product, Like her initial reaction was, Wow, 330 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: this is really dangerous. 331 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: I don't want to try it all. 332 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: And it did rub a lot of people up the 333 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: wrong way because she did get some backlash saying, well, 334 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: these are budget products and in this cost of living crisis, 335 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: people can't actually afford these types of treatments professionally, so 336 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, they didn't really respect that she had turned 337 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: her nose up at it. And Lauren came out and said, well, 338 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: it's a big business that I was dealing with. If 339 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: it was a smaller business than I wouldn't have said anything. However, 340 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: I think Kmart has enough money. There was a little 341 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: bit of a twist though, because some followers pointed out 342 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: that the products were actually created by a small business 343 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: that cam Up then brings into their shops. So Lauren 344 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: decided to delete the video. And would you say it 345 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: was an apology, Sophie, I don't think it was necessarily 346 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: an apology. I think that she was explaining her point 347 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: of view. She said that she doesn't think products like 348 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: these should be readily available through places like Kmar because 349 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: of the lack of regulation. She said, some people are 350 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: offended by my honesty with the kmart stuff. I have 351 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: given Kama an infinite amount of free publicity. They are 352 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: not a small local business struggling to make ends meet. 353 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: I did like at the end, she added, but I 354 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: still stand by my concerns about using those products at home. 355 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: I don't think you should be and I feel like 356 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: that was her true opinion coming out. She obviously had 357 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: to apologize because of the Small Business Association, but a 358 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: lot of people loved that she was willing to come 359 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: out and say all of this. I actually respect it 360 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: because I personally also wouldn't feel safe using led products 361 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: from KMA. I feel so sorry for all of the 362 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: teenagers who are probably like, oh, yes, there's all these 363 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: products out there that going to do their own brow lamination, 364 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: probably fuck up their eyebrows. I think, as you said, 365 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: people love the honesty and she owes it to her 366 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: audience because they look. 367 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: To her for beauty products to buy. 368 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: Well, that's why she is an og Australian influencer and 369 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: has managed to keep her following for nearly ten years. Ever, 370 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: said the sentence, I cannot do a chin up. I'm 371 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: going to get you there. Let's door. Kayla It'sena surprised 372 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: her followers by announcing she married Jay Woodriff on Sunday. 373 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: I absolutely love that this wedding was esthetically pleasing but 374 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: also low key at the same time. It felt very 375 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: true to Kayla as cenas it does appear that they 376 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: got married in her backyard, and if you cast in 377 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: mind back to around this time last year, her sister 378 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: Leah also got married in her backyard in a very 379 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: low key serremony. I mean we're saying backyard. It wasn't 380 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: your typical backyard do. I mean, they have absolutely epic 381 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: mansions in Adelaide and very beautiful grounds to have them in. 382 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: But I do love the fact that it made it 383 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: extra intimate and very special to them. So Kayla shared 384 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: a photo of her and Jay standing on a podium 385 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: kissing in an outdoor ceremony, and it looked absolutely incredible 386 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: with these stunning pastel flowers surrounding them. And I love 387 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: it because in the photo you can see a flower 388 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: girl who I presume is Ana, Kayla's daughter, throwing pedals 389 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: at the couple. Kayla wrote, just married my best friend 390 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: and we couldn't be happier, the most perfect day ever. 391 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: The reception was held in a marquee in the backyard, 392 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: with the couple entering via what appears to be a 393 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: tennis court gate. Is that way Kayla had her epic 394 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: engagement party with Toby Pierce. 395 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 2: I think that was on a tennis court. Yeah, it was. 396 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: That's why I was like, oh, I instantly recognized this 397 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: as her famous backyard. It did look like it was 398 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: a cocktail style wedding with lots of dancing. It also 399 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: really liked that Kayla paid homage to her Greek heritage, 400 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: so at one stage we saw Kayla and jay lifted 401 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: up on chairs and a big drum came out, and 402 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: they also did a lot of Greek dancing, which was 403 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: really cute. You could see that everyone was just getting 404 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: into it so much. I'm glad the photo booth still 405 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: appear to be all the rage, because I've hired one 406 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: for my wedding in March, and Kayla had one at 407 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: hers and the caption on the photo said Jayla gets married, 408 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: and it seemed like a lot of friends were having fun. 409 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: Sharing those to Instagram. Did they share after she'd made 410 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: her announcement. Well, that's what I found very interesting, because 411 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: Kayla's sister Leah jumped on her stories on Monday morning 412 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: and she was talking about how she is going to 413 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: share some photos of her own outfit, but she's gonna 414 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: wait for Kayla to share what she was wearing. However, 415 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: I did notice that Kayla had already been tagged on 416 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: Monday in several friends Instagram stories and also posts. One 417 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: of the friends that tagged her was a personal trainer 418 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: called Katie Martin, who has sixty thousand followers, and Katie 419 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: actually shared a photo of Kayla in her second wedding dress. Now, 420 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: Kayla's first dress was a very sleek, silky white wedding dress. 421 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: I really liked it because it was simple but at 422 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: the same time had some standout features. 423 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 2: So it had this sheer. 424 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: Material that kind of draped at the back, and it 425 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: had a big split up the middle. Now, she did 426 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: change into another slinky gown with a similar thigh high split. However, 427 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: this time it was a lot more Blingmy there is 428 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: so much social media etiquette around weddings, and I don't 429 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: know how I feel about one of her guests posting 430 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: her second dress before she's had the opportunity to. And 431 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: at the same time, when you have gone to a wedding, 432 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: you are really excited to post a photo that you 433 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: have from the day as well. Yeah, well this. Katie 434 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: Martin also posted a video from their first dance. The 435 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: thing is, Kayla and Jay have both shared these videos, 436 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: so maybe they don't have an issue with it, but 437 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: I was just interested when I saw that Leah had 438 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: said that she specifically hadn't posted anything of Kayla yet. 439 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: I personally would be a little bit pissed off because 440 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: I'd want all the professional photos and I'm assuming that 441 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: her videographer, which was I Do Cinema, who also created 442 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: Olivia Rodgers's wedding video, will create some type of teaser 443 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: for her, and you kind of want that professional stuff 444 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: out beforehand. You were saying that this wedding had a 445 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: low key sort of vibe to it, and I think 446 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: that that was reflected in Jay's outfit because he wore 447 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: a white tuxedo, but he made it a bit more 448 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: casual by wearing white sneakers and then he actually changed 449 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: into shorts for the wedding dance. 450 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 2: I don't want my partner. 451 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: To see this, because he literally always wears shorts to 452 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: everything and I definitely don't want that on the wedding date. Well, 453 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: it was pretty hot yesterday, so I can see why 454 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: he did slip into the shorts. Kayla's sister, Leah, also 455 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: changed into sneakers right after the ceremony, and I really 456 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: respect that because there's nothing worse than being ultra uncomfortable 457 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: and having to wear heels. I wore sneakers at my 458 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: wedding at the reception, and I loved it. Was the 459 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: best decision ever. I suppose that's also a perk of 460 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: having it at your house. You could run inside and 461 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: grab some sneakers. Ye. Now, before the wedding, there was 462 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: a bit of confusion when fans realized that Leah was 463 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: shopping for a dress to wear to the wedding, and 464 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: there are a few questions as to why she wasn't 465 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: a bridesmaid, And it turns out that Kayla didn't have 466 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: any bridesmaids, which is exactly what Leah did as well. Yeah, again, 467 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: it seems very low key that both weddings didn't have 468 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: a bridal party. I mean, Kayla didn't even want to 469 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: have a hens so it kind of makes sense. 470 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 2: Get ready with me for dinner and Baker dinner. I'm 471 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 2: on holidays, I mean anothers I'm having lost chape and 472 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: this is my view. 473 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,719 Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro's well winned relationship with Love Islander Matt Sakowski 474 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: continues to captivate on Outspoken Plus. On Friday, we discussed 475 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: in depth the engagement rumors that were sparked during the 476 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: couples romantic getaway to the mal Dives. This story moves 477 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: quickly because on Friday afternoon there was speculation. 478 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 2: That the couple were on the rocks. So for what 479 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: is going on? 480 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: Well, this all came about because someone snapped a sneaky 481 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 1: photo of Tammy and Matt queuing separately at the airport 482 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: on the way home from the Mail Dives. And in 483 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: the photo, Tammy was standing ahead of Matt in the 484 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: airport que with several people in between them, and a 485 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: lot of people jumped to the conclusion that this meant 486 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: that they were having a fight. See, I thought that 487 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: there were so many other reasons as to why this 488 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: might have happened. Firstly, people push in maybe Matt went 489 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: and got a coffee and then didn't want to jump 490 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: the queue with Tammy. Well, Tammy did give an insight 491 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: into just how difficult the couple's trip home was. She 492 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: updated her followers that they were finally on the last 493 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: leg of their trip after a not. 494 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 2: So smooth return home. 495 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: She wrote, our first flight was delayed and then tried 496 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: to land three times and made everyone go to the 497 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: back of the plane before going to a random airport. 498 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: Then we missed all our connecting flights and sat at 499 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: different airports for a day, and then pretty much had 500 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: a mental breakdown because I missed my baby so much 501 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: and I've major mum guilt for being gone for longer 502 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: than I wanted. Anyway, all is well and we're finally 503 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: going home. I mean, I feel like this could explain 504 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: why they weren't standing in the queue together. I feel 505 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: like it's very difficult traveling, particularly when all these things 506 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: go wrong. 507 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 2: Maybe they just had a little spat. 508 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: This just confirms to me that they did have an 509 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: argument then, because I don't think you can travel with 510 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: your partner. Yeah, I'll have such a terrible turn of 511 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: events happen and not have a crossword between you. Yeah. Well, 512 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 1: it is clear that they have made up since this 513 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: rough trip home because Matt has been spotted back home 514 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: with Tammy playing with her kids in the garden. Things 515 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: are clearly getting very serious because Tammy's dad shared a 516 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: family photo of him, Tammy, Matt, and the kids. An 517 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: anonymous source has also added fuel to their engagement rumors, 518 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: so they sent a post to Influencer Updates AAU saying 519 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: they are engaged. Just had my nails done next to 520 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: Tammy on the GC. There was a lot of talk 521 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: because in some of the holiday photos Tammy was wearing 522 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: a ring, but there was some confusion because it looks 523 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: like she's been wearing a ring backwards because in these 524 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: new videos that have since come out on TikTok, you 525 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: can see a huge diamond on her hand. 526 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 527 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: So Tammy's sister Olympia uploaded this hilarious reel and it 528 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: is Tammy and Matt, as well as her and her 529 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: other sister responding to these statements about them. And it said, 530 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: for Matt, weren't you on Love Island? And it says 531 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: for Tammy, weren't you just engaged? And Tammy reacts to it. However, 532 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: all you can notice is this massive rock on her 533 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: wedding finger and I did have a look back at 534 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: some of the photos that Influence Updates had posted, and 535 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: it is so obvious that it is an engagement ring, 536 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: Like it is huge. It is bigger than the ring 537 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: that Matt Paul gave her. Where is Matt Sakowski, with 538 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: all due respect, getting these dollars? Like? Is this a 539 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: sponsorship post? And when are they coming out with the announcement? 540 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: Are they waiting for a professional video from. 541 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 2: The mountains maybe well. 542 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: Tammy did continue to fuel speculation on TikTok. She shared 543 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 1: herself minding to this to everyone who watches my life 544 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: and gossips about it, don't give up. Season two is 545 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: about to come out now. Matt then joined her at 546 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: the end of the video, indicating that he's part of 547 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: season two. There are a lot of rue comments that 548 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: were like season two, talk about season three or four. 549 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: She has had a very hectic life, a lot of 550 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: a very interesting, entertaining life now. Tammy also confirmed in 551 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: a video on her TikTok that her two eldest children, 552 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: Wolf and Saskuiez, stayed with Reese Hawkin's parents while she 553 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: was away, so apparently they often stay with Reese's parents 554 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: during the school holidays. As for Posey, she was also 555 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: with her grandparents in the form of Matt Paul's parents. 556 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: What I want to know is where are the dads 557 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 2: and why are they not looking after their kids? 558 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: They seem to be all out with new respective partners 559 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: as well. I wonder if the grandparents were thrilled too 560 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: called in while Tammy's off and her kid free holiday 561 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: and their sons are doing. God knows what she should 562 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: be allowed to go on a holiday. I mean she 563 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: has the children the majority of the time. It appears 564 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: like now there is another development in the tattoo saga. 565 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: So as we've discussed, Tammy got Matt's name tattooed on 566 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: her inner hip very early on in their relationship. I 567 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: think it was only two weeks in now. Tammy's sister 568 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: Olympia shared that Tammy and Matt also have another matching 569 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: tattoo as well as the sisters. So Olympia shared that 570 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: Tammy and their other sisters, Ava and Matt all have 571 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: love heart tattoos on their wrists. She captured the photos 572 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: sisters forever. I don't know how I feel about him 573 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: getting in on a sister's tattoo. See, I think that 574 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: maybe it was just a coincidence that he also has 575 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: that tattoo because it was sort of a little bit 576 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: different to the sisters ones. Look, can people just stop 577 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: getting couple's tattoos full stop? I think that they are 578 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: bad luck when it comes to a relationship. It is 579 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: clear though that Tammy's sisters approve of Matt. I think 580 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: the whole family is getting around him. So I am 581 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: just holding out for this engagement announcement because they've only 582 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: been dating for two months. 583 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: This is an absolute whirlwind of romance. I don't know 584 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 2: if I buy it though. 585 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: Maybe they're trying to reel us in and. 586 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: Trick us all. But why I don't know. My publicity. 587 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: Maybe there is a series in the making of Hanging 588 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: with the Hembros. I know they tried to film it 589 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. It didn't take off, but 590 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: this is absolute content gold for the show. What I 591 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: don't get is why do people have to get engaged 592 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: so early on? Like, can you just give a commitment 593 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: ring and then see how things go for a couple 594 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: of years. What's the rush to have a wedding and 595 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: this big ceremony in it? 596 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,719 Speaker 2: I don't understand it. 597 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: Maybe Tammy's got a booking out at a venue for 598 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: the other Matt and that would be convenient. Well, I 599 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: think that's all we've got time for. If you did 600 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: enjoy the podcast, we would love it if you could 601 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: leave us a five hour review. 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