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Speaker 3: Hello, hey Gooper, we're back.
Speaker 4: We've got a fun hotline for everyone today. So the
Speaker 4: question we had written in I'm in a good paying job. However,
Speaker 4: I struggled to save and attract as much money as
Speaker 4: I would like. I've started doing a lot of work
Speaker 4: around my money mindset over the last few months and
Speaker 4: finally had my AHA moment. My partner is in a
Speaker 4: job which allows him to own over five hundred k
Speaker 4: a year. He has big goals to be financially abundant,
Speaker 4: have a dream home on the beach, nice car, expensive holidays, boats, etc.
Speaker 4: We have been together for five years, and it took
Speaker 4: me a long time to come around to all of this,
Speaker 4: as I always saw these people as greedy. I grew
Speaker 4: up being told that rich people were bad people and
Speaker 4: that you should live a humble life. My mom struggled
Speaker 4: financially when me and my brother were growing up and
Speaker 4: has only just started being able to save in the
Speaker 4: last five to ten years. My mom has had to
Speaker 4: bail my brother out a few times and always complains
Speaker 4: to me about it. With this in mind, I would
Speaker 4: think she would be happy that I will be in
Speaker 4: a good position financially where I will never need to
Speaker 4: ask her for help. When I show her houses that
Speaker 4: my partner and I are looking at, she makes comments
Speaker 4: about it being too expensive and too luxurious for our
Speaker 4: first house. She continues to send me links to houses
Speaker 4: which are cheap and nasty and in areas that I've
Speaker 4: said over and over I don't want to live in.
Speaker 4: My partner recently bought a new car for one hundred
Speaker 4: and fifty K, and I've had to lie to my
Speaker 4: mum about it as I feel ashamed and didn't want
Speaker 4: her judgment. I feel like she is what is holding
Speaker 4: me back, as I feel she will be ashamed of
Speaker 4: me and my partner in the future when we are
Speaker 4: financially well off. Side note, she just got her inheritance
Speaker 4: from my granddad of one million dollars. However, buys everything
Speaker 4: from secondhand shops and lives in such a scarcity mindset
Speaker 4: because she grew up and raised us when she was broke.
Speaker 4: Any advice would be great. It's such a loaded question. Yeah,
Speaker 4: by the way, guys, I picked Cooper because he is
Speaker 4: our expert on abundance.
Speaker 3: Thanks to Dear.
Speaker 2: First of all, I like to for myself, and this
Speaker 2: is what's helped for myself, is to have a look
Speaker 2: at what control you have. So I like to write
Speaker 2: down what are the things I can't control or just
Speaker 2: and what what are the things I can control? So
Speaker 2: in this scenario, would be good to write down those
Speaker 2: things and have a look, Like you can't control someone.
Speaker 2: You can't control how her mum is going to be
Speaker 2: and how she's gonna react and her feelings, Like you
Speaker 2: can't control that. The only thing she can control is herself. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then her actions. So after she's written down what
Speaker 2: she can control, focus on those things and then action
Speaker 2: them things and and yeah, I wouldn't feel guilty for
Speaker 2: making more money because she's earned it. Even if her
Speaker 2: partner has earned it, she has earned it just as
Speaker 2: much as him because they're a team.
Speaker 3: And I had.
Speaker 2: To learn this the hard way too my relationship because
Speaker 2: and I carried that on with Ash and she just
Speaker 2: took it on board. And she would always ask me
Speaker 2: before spending money because I was always made the money
Speaker 2: and she was at home with the kids. But being
Speaker 2: a mum is a lot harder. So she has earned
Speaker 2: more than what I have earned. So until you can
Speaker 2: because there might be a bit around that, like she
Speaker 2: might have a bit of guilt of not making the
Speaker 2: money as well, so there might be a bit of
Speaker 2: a real lifezation of no, you have earned this money. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So that's another thing she can control, Like that's something
Speaker 2: internal and and she has to believe she is rich
Speaker 2: because it does kind of sound that she doesn't.
Speaker 3: Believe that just yet.
Speaker 2: And she's still holding on this thing with her with
Speaker 2: her mum because if she didn't, then it wouldn't be.
Speaker 4: A truer guilt wouldn't be there.
Speaker 3: It wouldn't be there.
Speaker 2: So she's still, yeah, holding onto this, So it's to
Speaker 2: let it go. And yeah, maybe some steps is to
Speaker 2: have that conversation with her mom, say in set a
Speaker 2: boundary and say hey mom. And when you have a
Speaker 2: conversation with anyone, the first thing is to give the
Speaker 2: other person a safe space. So from there, yeah, have
Speaker 2: a safe space, say whatever we talk about, it's okay, like, oh,
Speaker 2: there won't be any judgments. And to have that say space,
Speaker 2: it's communication and just making them feel safe. And then
Speaker 2: from there you just put up your boundaries and say, look,
Speaker 2: I've earned this money, I've worked really hard, my husband
Speaker 2: has worked really hard, or partner, and this is what
Speaker 2: we want to do and this is where I'm going.
Speaker 2: If you don't want to do that, then that's fine.
Speaker 2: And then with her just wanting to still buy cheap
Speaker 2: things and that sort of thing, that's all good, like
Speaker 2: that's her life. Yeah, you can't change people.
Speaker 4: And it's kind of almost like if she's getting upset
Speaker 4: about her mum commenting on her spending habits, should she
Speaker 4: be really getting upset and wanting to comment on her
Speaker 4: mum's spending habits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if something if you're getting triggered something like that,
Speaker 2: it's usually because you hate that in yourself. So it's
Speaker 2: not really the other person's issue. Yeah, because if it
Speaker 2: wasn't an issue, you'd just be like, yeah, it's all good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she can do what she wants.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if she gets triggered so thing sparks up,
Speaker 2: then it's something inside yourself. Whenever there's an issue, it's
Speaker 2: always you, and it is so annoying, trust me, because
Speaker 2: you're like, no, it's his fault, it's her fault, it's
Speaker 2: their fault, it's your fault. So whenever you get in
Speaker 2: a bad situation, yeah, just take a step back. I
Speaker 2: like to when I get a bad feeling in my body. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I like to take a step back mentally or physically,
Speaker 2: take three deep breaths through your belly and bring your
Speaker 2: nervous system back to being as relaxed as you can.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Then have a look at what's going on, and you'll
Speaker 2: be it'll be way more clear. Like when you get
Speaker 2: hot headed or you start crying, yeah, fight or flight, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's when you have to just take a step back
Speaker 2: and realize what's going on.
Speaker 4: Wow, and what why do you think she's lied to
Speaker 4: her mum about how much the car costs? Is that guilt?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's guilty, But guilt's there for a reason, like
Speaker 2: it's doing its job. So don't feel like the guilt
Speaker 2: is bad. It's there for a good reason. It's just
Speaker 2: to listen to it and allow it and let it
Speaker 2: come in, but then process it and not let it
Speaker 2: get those deep feelings towards it and say thanks, thanks
Speaker 2: for that guilt. Brain, I'm going to take this action now.
Speaker 2: And you're the director, You're you're the controller of your mind.
Speaker 4: So when we feel guilty, is that always a signpost
Speaker 4: that we're doing something we're not supposed to do, or
Speaker 4: is it more a signpost that there's something to work.
Speaker 3: Through both both?
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely both, but yeah, it's there for a reason.
Speaker 2: So yeah, but yeah, soon from this comment, just write
Speaker 2: those things down and have the conversation with your mum.
Speaker 2: Communication key, like when you don't know something, ask Like
Speaker 2: I always find this lately a lot of people like
Speaker 2: I don't know why he or she is thinking that,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, go and ask him. Yeah, then you'll
Speaker 2: find out, Like just use communication, but to actually go
Speaker 2: and communicate, it's such a big thing for everyone.
Speaker 3: And so I get it.
Speaker 2: I get why they can't, but that would fix everything.
Speaker 4: And do you have maybe two tips for listeners who
Speaker 4: want to start communicating better but get a bit nervous too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so write it down.
Speaker 2: I write stuff down too, Like I feel like my
Speaker 2: communication skills are really good, but I still write stuff
Speaker 2: down and sit down with someone, with your partner or
Speaker 2: whoever you feel safe with, and write down. Yeah, I've
Speaker 2: done it, Like towards a real estate agent I had.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to call him up, so I wrote
Speaker 2: down what I would talk to him about and what
Speaker 2: he would talk to me, my intentions and but and
Speaker 2: then when I go to have that conversation. The keys
Speaker 2: to have that safe space. But be true, be true
Speaker 2: to your word, and and it'll be really frightening. But
Speaker 2: everyone knows when you face a fear, and when you
Speaker 2: face something, it's always good on the other side. Like
Speaker 2: you always get this nice warm feeling after that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like I can't believe I did that.
Speaker 3: I feel so good.
Speaker 2: And you always say, oh, I should have done it sooner. Yeah,
Speaker 2: every time. So yeah, just whatever process feels comfortable. That's
Speaker 2: what I like to do. Write stuff down, and I'm
Speaker 2: just a bit more visual, But you just tackle it
Speaker 2: head on. That's still a good approach because something bad
Speaker 2: might happen in that conversation. You might say something bad,
Speaker 2: but whenever there's something.
Speaker 4: Bad, something good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's what I would do.
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Speaker 4: Okay, our next question. This person's written in and she says,
Speaker 4: I am constantly triggered by my mother in law every
Speaker 4: time I hear her name or voice. Even writing this email,
Speaker 4: I feel a massive tightening in my chest and will
Speaker 4: now feel anxious for hours. I know from listening to
Speaker 4: similar episodes that this actually has everything to do with
Speaker 4: me in my issues and something I need to work through.
Speaker 4: I just have no idea where to start, so I'd
Speaker 4: love some brutally honest advice, please. Some things that have
Speaker 4: made me triggered are when I see her name on
Speaker 4: my phone or hearing it in conversation. Anytime she sees me.
Speaker 4: It always leads to tearing her son down to my
Speaker 4: face and me feeling completely useless because I couldn't find
Speaker 4: my voice to stand up for him. Hearing her complain
Speaker 4: to her son that she never gets to see her
Speaker 4: grandson yet she lives thirty minutes away and is constantly
Speaker 4: in town. If I didn't talk to her again, it
Speaker 4: would be a massive weight off my shoulders. But I
Speaker 4: also know that it's not fixing the.
Speaker 3: Issue, all right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the answer is definitely not to block her out.
Speaker 2: And she is definitely correct that there's something inside of
Speaker 2: her what she hates that's actually inside of her mother
Speaker 2: in law. But that's a whole different thing to wine.
Speaker 2: So where she needs to try to get to is
Speaker 2: to love her mother in law for those things that
Speaker 2: she actually hates about it. And when those triggers come in,
Speaker 2: like I said before, take a step back, do your
Speaker 2: three breaths through your belly, like put your hand on
Speaker 2: your belly, do three breaths, and then exhale it slowly
Speaker 2: and then and say thank you, thank you for that trigger,
Speaker 2: thank you for letting me know that those things annoy
Speaker 2: the shit out of me and have gratitude towards those things.
Speaker 2: And this is another case of writing down a conversation
Speaker 2: that she needs to have with her mother in law,
Speaker 2: set some boundaries because they're getting stood on, and if
Speaker 2: that's a really big thing to have that communication and
Speaker 2: stand up for herself in that way, which that's very
Speaker 2: similar to my wife. So like the bigger thing is
Speaker 2: to go and talk to someone about it, like more
Speaker 2: like a trauma specialist therapist. But the first things, yeah,
Speaker 2: to set those boundaries and just communicate with her and say, look,
Speaker 2: I don't like these things. I don't like when you
Speaker 2: talk like this, And it's going to be really hard
Speaker 2: to do that like that, it'd be so hard, yeah, but.
Speaker 3: That would help her massively.
Speaker 4: And do you feel like the because obviously one of
Speaker 4: the dot points was that the mother in law complains
Speaker 4: about not seeing the grandson and also talks down on
Speaker 4: her son, which is obviously this person's partner or husband.
Speaker 4: Do you think that would be the main sort of
Speaker 4: source of the trigger? And then this like extra reaction
Speaker 4: of every time she sees her name or thinks about
Speaker 4: her she feels anxious for hours after comes from not
Speaker 4: having dealt with the previous triggers. Or do you think
Speaker 4: it's a whole other thing.
Speaker 2: It's a stabbing the dark leg without her here, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and me asking her a lot of questions and what's
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's definitely.
Speaker 2: Triggers where it has come up in her life previously,
Speaker 2: and it's just but yeah, triggers are very they're very
Speaker 2: difficult because they show up in these sorts of situations
Speaker 2: where they're not really to do with that actual person. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that person. So it's usually internal and something from a
Speaker 2: completely different scenario, maybe when they were a kid or
Speaker 2: some other trigger. So it's a loaded question.
Speaker 4: How would yeah, how would you? Obviously we can't ask
Speaker 4: other questions. What sort of thing should she ask herself
Speaker 4: to maybe try to get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 2: I always like to say, why why are you getting
Speaker 2: these triggers? Yeah, and dive in onto that. Whenever anyone
Speaker 2: says anything about something being triggered in their life. I
Speaker 2: just always go to why why do you do that?
Speaker 2: And answer that question, and there's usually another why question
Speaker 2: in that question, and you dive deeper and you think,
Speaker 2: why do I do that? What feeling am I going
Speaker 2: to get? What feeling do I get? And then why
Speaker 2: do I get that feeling?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Keep saying why and yeah, you get deeper and deeper
Speaker 2: and deeper. And she could journal her about that and
Speaker 2: go deeper, but it's hard to find what the actual
Speaker 2: triggers are without a professional. Yeah, they're just Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a bit difficult. But on a conscious level, you just
Speaker 2: communication set in the boundaries like that's that's just the
Speaker 2: go to and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's just all I would say.
Speaker 4: And another thing, I feel like i've from reading that
Speaker 4: she's really given her power away to her mother in law,
Speaker 4: like the fact that she wrote this email and then
Speaker 4: said that she'd feel anxious for hours after she's given
Speaker 4: that power away. She could make the decision like I'm
Speaker 4: going to write this email. It's going to be uncomfortable,
Speaker 4: but five minutes later I will be fine, Like it
Speaker 4: doesn't need to linger. But she's given all this power
Speaker 4: to her mother in law who probably is just going
Speaker 4: about her life doing whatever she won't.
Speaker 2: It'd be nothing for her. Yeah, it would not even
Speaker 2: be anything for her. Yeah, And so she needs to
Speaker 2: take that power back and said her bad. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: it just just writes some stuff down and write what
Speaker 2: she wants to say to her.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But at the start of that, she needs to give
Speaker 2: her mother in law a safe space. And whenever she's
Speaker 2: triggered and she's like, oh, it's all right name Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then she is saying that in her head, she's
Speaker 2: feeding that trigger. So it's to catch that trigger and say, no,
Speaker 2: I'm grateful for her because without her, I wouldn't have
Speaker 2: my son. Yeah, that sort of thing of like what's
Speaker 2: the gratitude around this? And coming back to that and
Speaker 2: then and then when it comes up again, what's something
Speaker 2: else that you're grateful for for your mother in law? Yeah,
Speaker 2: And when you have a bunch like because all those
Speaker 2: triggers will be bad and as you know, and there's bad,
Speaker 2: there's good, So write those bad things down. But then
Speaker 2: right there'd be math, there'd be a lot of good
Speaker 2: things about her mother in law. So yeah, she could
Speaker 2: write all those down and have a look at them.
Speaker 2: And then have a look and take a step back
Speaker 2: and think, wow, she's actually pretty powerful. But I don't
Speaker 2: want to be around that negativity because a lot of
Speaker 2: people have their own issues and they put on their
Speaker 2: negativity to you, and then that's the boundary, that's the communication.
Speaker 2: So she'll set her boundaries and say, look, I don't
Speaker 2: want this in my life. I don't need this. If
Speaker 2: you want to come and see the kids, this is
Speaker 2: my boundary.
Speaker 3: This is where it is. You have to.
Speaker 2: Meet these standards of my family, otherwise you're not allowed
Speaker 2: to come. And when you do that, people respect you
Speaker 2: more because yeah, it's really I runic, because yeah, you
Speaker 2: think you want to love someone, you give them so
Speaker 2: much love, but as soon as you stop giving that
Speaker 2: love to someone, they turn around and think, hey, I'm
Speaker 2: not getting that love anymore, and they give you.
Speaker 4: Love to get more like because they're missing yours.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy how it works, and it goes against
Speaker 2: whatever what we think. I've been through that lately.
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah it's wild.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so but that's really hard because that's gone against
Speaker 2: what lets yeah, everything you've been brought up, and it'd
Speaker 2: be like, oh, if I don't do this, I'm not
Speaker 2: going to get what I want to get. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: to actually let it go, that's when you get it. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's easy to say, yeah, it's it's the whole other thing.
Speaker 2: But take a little step when there's a big journey
Speaker 2: ahead of you. It's that one little step at the
Speaker 2: start that you'll complete it in the end. Yeah, So
Speaker 2: take that one step.
Speaker 4: Love it. Thanks for coming, Cooper.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4: We've loved having your thoughts and so different and so insightful.
Speaker 4: We'll have to have you back one awesome bye bye.
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