1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: I would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: land on which this episode is being recorded, the Komboo 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Marry people. We pay our respects to elders past, present 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: and emerging and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: Torres Strait Islander peoples. Today I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson, 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: and this is the Rise and Concer podcast. This is 7 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: the podcast where which have mindset self development and becoming 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: your higher self mix soon with a lot of laughs, 9 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: plus behind the scenes of my life running two businesses 10 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: and being among Think of us as the perfect combo 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: of brunch with your besties mixed with self development. No 12 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: matter where you are in your journey, We're here to 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: help you be curious, pull yourself out, and embrace radical 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: self awareness. If you're ready to get into the driver's 15 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: seat of your own life and stop letting life pass 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: you by, then you're in the right place. Hi, everybody, 17 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: welcome back to the potty Today. We actually have Cooper 18 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: joining us for a hotline episode and he's chatting all 19 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: about how to navigate finances when your parents have a 20 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: scarcity mindset. I feel like ninety percent of us can 21 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: relate to that question, so I'm so glad he answered that, 22 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: and then our second question was all about setting boundaries 23 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: within laws, and again, I feel like this is a 24 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: question where a lot of people can relate. So honestly, guys, 25 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: this episode is so valuable. Cooper has been on our 26 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: huge you know self growth journey over the last couple 27 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: of years, and he has some really great tools for 28 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: you guys and insights, So I hope you love that. 29 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: But before we get into the episode, I just wanted 30 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: to remind you, guys, our life happens for me. Journals 31 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: were restocked last week, and I just want to say 32 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: a big thank you for all of the love on 33 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: this restock. Honestly, we got so many more journals because 34 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: we didn't want to run out again. 35 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: And we. 36 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: Yes, we were, you know we because I just I 37 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: know how valuable this tool is. So it is crazy. 38 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: We are already halfway sold out our stock and it 39 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: takes us months and months to get a restock of this. 40 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: Hence why it's taken us so long for this restock. 41 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 3: So I just. 42 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 1: Wanted to give you a gentle nudge and say, if 43 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: you want this journal, especially coming into the new year 44 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: and the end of the year. If you have some intentions, 45 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: some goals, this journal is literally going to be your 46 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: best friend, because as we know, it's you know, manifesting 47 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: is a beautiful practice, but if you're not consistently doing it, 48 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: it's not. 49 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 4: Going to work exactly. And I actually read somewhere that 50 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 4: spring is one of the best times to like spiritually 51 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 4: start something because it's new beginnings. Yes, so it'd be 52 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 4: great to start it in September. 53 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: I love spring because I even was thinking this morning 54 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: and pilates of like seeing that it was like lighter 55 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: earlier and just feeling this like, dare I say spring 56 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: my step and it was, Yeah, it's just a great time. 57 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: So if you are feeling like, you know, you want 58 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: to shed some shit which is all basically what you 59 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: do in journaling, and really focus on new intentions, it's 60 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: such a beautiful time to do it. And I just 61 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: don't want you guys to miss out if it is 62 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: something for you. And also kind of you know, speaking 63 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: of being consistent with manifesting, we also did bring out 64 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: our Manifesting with Momentum master class. This is going to 65 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: be a ninety minute live master class with me, so 66 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: it is going to be live where you can interact. 67 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: I am going to be answering your questions, actually going 68 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: to be asking you guys for specific things so I 69 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: can teach on them. So it's going to be so potent. 70 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: You know, if you've ever tried to jump in my DMS, 71 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: you know I don't coach on my DMS or anything 72 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: like that. So if you did want that sort of 73 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: like you know, contact and direction, this is going to 74 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: be such a great place to ask your questions and 75 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: really get feedback. But basically, this masterclass is for anyone 76 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: who does struggle to implement manifesting twenty four to seven. 77 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: Because we're all manifesting twenty four to seven. But if 78 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: you are someone who you kind of feel like you 79 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: keep pulling off the bandwagon, like you can see some results, 80 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: but you can't consistently see yourself implementing your manifestation practice. 81 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: Basically I backtracked how I've been so consistent in my 82 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: manifestation practice, and then how you guys can really use it. 83 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: So it's compounding because I think a lot of people think, oh, 84 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: a quantum leap is like this magical thing that happens. No, 85 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: I truly believe quantum leaps just come from a compounding effect, 86 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: and how you get a compounding effect is consistency. So 87 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: it feels very logical in my mind, but it just 88 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: creates very magical results. And that's what I'm teaching in 89 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: this masterclass. So if you are kind of you consider 90 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: yourself like an expert manifesto, I guarantee you still going 91 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: to get so much out of this. But also if 92 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: you're kind of new to manifesting and you really want, 93 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: like I want my lifestyle to be manifesting, then this 94 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: is the mask class for you, and we will leave 95 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: all the links in the show notes. 96 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 4: I'm so excited. 97 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: Recommendation sit here. 98 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 4: My recommendation is the Inspired Unemployed s TV show You 99 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 4: Can't take Mine. I've watched it before you It's so funny. Guys. 100 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 4: If you're after something and just just pure happiness, silly laughed, 101 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 4: get on it. 102 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: You know what's really funny to me and Tim are 103 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: having this conversation. He has this weird thing where he like, 104 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: he can't watch it because he feels so awkward. 105 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 4: It's like secondhand embarrassment. 106 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and no joke. He goes, I can't watch this 107 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: tonight because last night I had a really bad sleep 108 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: after watching it because he was like, he just like 109 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: felt so awkward, and I think it gave him like 110 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: anxiety or something because Tim has had like social anxiety 111 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: in the past. 112 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 4: Oh okay, yeah. 113 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: So like that was just something I thought was really interesting. 114 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: But one hundred percent, I'm actually gonna just peeback and 115 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: say I double this and it's the funniest thing. I 116 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: haven't watched TV or anything like that in so long. 117 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: They've done well, so well, I'm obsessed with those boys, 118 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: and it's just like, yeah, it was the best. Highly recommend. 119 00:06:53,160 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: Let's get into the episode. 120 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: Hello, hey Gooper, we're back. 121 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 4: We've got a fun hotline for everyone today. So the 122 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 4: question we had written in I'm in a good paying job. However, 123 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 4: I struggled to save and attract as much money as 124 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 4: I would like. I've started doing a lot of work 125 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 4: around my money mindset over the last few months and 126 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 4: finally had my AHA moment. My partner is in a 127 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 4: job which allows him to own over five hundred k 128 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 4: a year. He has big goals to be financially abundant, 129 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 4: have a dream home on the beach, nice car, expensive holidays, boats, etc. 130 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 4: We have been together for five years, and it took 131 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 4: me a long time to come around to all of this, 132 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 4: as I always saw these people as greedy. I grew 133 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 4: up being told that rich people were bad people and 134 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 4: that you should live a humble life. My mom struggled 135 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 4: financially when me and my brother were growing up and 136 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 4: has only just started being able to save in the 137 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 4: last five to ten years. My mom has had to 138 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 4: bail my brother out a few times and always complains 139 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 4: to me about it. With this in mind, I would 140 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 4: think she would be happy that I will be in 141 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 4: a good position financially where I will never need to 142 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 4: ask her for help. When I show her houses that 143 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,679 Speaker 4: my partner and I are looking at, she makes comments 144 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 4: about it being too expensive and too luxurious for our 145 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 4: first house. She continues to send me links to houses 146 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 4: which are cheap and nasty and in areas that I've 147 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 4: said over and over I don't want to live in. 148 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,239 Speaker 4: My partner recently bought a new car for one hundred 149 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 4: and fifty K, and I've had to lie to my 150 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 4: mum about it as I feel ashamed and didn't want 151 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 4: her judgment. I feel like she is what is holding 152 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 4: me back, as I feel she will be ashamed of 153 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 4: me and my partner in the future when we are 154 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 4: financially well off. Side note, she just got her inheritance 155 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 4: from my granddad of one million dollars. However, buys everything 156 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 4: from secondhand shops and lives in such a scarcity mindset 157 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 4: because she grew up and raised us when she was broke. 158 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 4: Any advice would be great. It's such a loaded question. Yeah, 159 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 4: by the way, guys, I picked Cooper because he is 160 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 4: our expert on abundance. 161 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: Thanks to Dear. 162 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 2: First of all, I like to for myself, and this 163 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: is what's helped for myself, is to have a look 164 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 2: at what control you have. So I like to write 165 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: down what are the things I can't control or just 166 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: and what what are the things I can control? So 167 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: in this scenario, would be good to write down those 168 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: things and have a look, Like you can't control someone. 169 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: You can't control how her mum is going to be 170 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: and how she's gonna react and her feelings, Like you 171 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: can't control that. The only thing she can control is herself. Yeah, 172 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: and then her actions. So after she's written down what 173 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: she can control, focus on those things and then action 174 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: them things and and yeah, I wouldn't feel guilty for 175 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: making more money because she's earned it. Even if her 176 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: partner has earned it, she has earned it just as 177 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: much as him because they're a team. 178 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 3: And I had. 179 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: To learn this the hard way too my relationship because 180 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: and I carried that on with Ash and she just 181 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 2: took it on board. And she would always ask me 182 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 2: before spending money because I was always made the money 183 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: and she was at home with the kids. But being 184 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 2: a mum is a lot harder. So she has earned 185 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: more than what I have earned. So until you can 186 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: because there might be a bit around that, like she 187 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 2: might have a bit of guilt of not making the 188 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: money as well, so there might be a bit of 189 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: a real lifezation of no, you have earned this money. Yeah, 190 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: So that's another thing she can control, Like that's something 191 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: internal and and she has to believe she is rich 192 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 2: because it does kind of sound that she doesn't. 193 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: Believe that just yet. 194 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: And she's still holding on this thing with her with 195 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 2: her mum because if she didn't, then it wouldn't be. 196 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 4: A truer guilt wouldn't be there. 197 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 3: It wouldn't be there. 198 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: So she's still, yeah, holding onto this, So it's to 199 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: let it go. And yeah, maybe some steps is to 200 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 2: have that conversation with her mom, say in set a 201 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: boundary and say hey mom. And when you have a 202 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 2: conversation with anyone, the first thing is to give the 203 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: other person a safe space. So from there, yeah, have 204 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: a safe space, say whatever we talk about, it's okay, like, oh, 205 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 2: there won't be any judgments. And to have that say space, 206 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 2: it's communication and just making them feel safe. And then 207 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: from there you just put up your boundaries and say, look, 208 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: I've earned this money, I've worked really hard, my husband 209 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: has worked really hard, or partner, and this is what 210 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: we want to do and this is where I'm going. 211 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: If you don't want to do that, then that's fine. 212 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: And then with her just wanting to still buy cheap 213 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: things and that sort of thing, that's all good, like 214 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 2: that's her life. Yeah, you can't change people. 215 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 4: And it's kind of almost like if she's getting upset 216 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 4: about her mum commenting on her spending habits, should she 217 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 4: be really getting upset and wanting to comment on her 218 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 4: mum's spending habits. 219 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, if something if you're getting triggered something like that, 220 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: it's usually because you hate that in yourself. So it's 221 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: not really the other person's issue. Yeah, because if it 222 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 2: wasn't an issue, you'd just be like, yeah, it's all good. 223 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, she can do what she wants. 224 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, but if she gets triggered so thing sparks up, 225 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: then it's something inside yourself. Whenever there's an issue, it's 226 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 2: always you, and it is so annoying, trust me, because 227 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: you're like, no, it's his fault, it's her fault, it's 228 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 2: their fault, it's your fault. So whenever you get in 229 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 2: a bad situation, yeah, just take a step back. I 230 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 2: like to when I get a bad feeling in my body. Yeah, 231 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: I like to take a step back mentally or physically, 232 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: take three deep breaths through your belly and bring your 233 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 2: nervous system back to being as relaxed as you can. 234 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 235 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: Then have a look at what's going on, and you'll 236 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 2: be it'll be way more clear. Like when you get 237 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 2: hot headed or you start crying, yeah, fight or flight, Yeah, 238 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 2: that's when you have to just take a step back 239 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 2: and realize what's going on. 240 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 4: Wow, and what why do you think she's lied to 241 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 4: her mum about how much the car costs? Is that guilt? 242 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? 243 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's guilty, But guilt's there for a reason, like 244 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 2: it's doing its job. So don't feel like the guilt 245 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 2: is bad. It's there for a good reason. It's just 246 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: to listen to it and allow it and let it 247 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: come in, but then process it and not let it 248 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: get those deep feelings towards it and say thanks, thanks 249 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: for that guilt. Brain, I'm going to take this action now. 250 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: And you're the director, You're you're the controller of your mind. 251 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 4: So when we feel guilty, is that always a signpost 252 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 4: that we're doing something we're not supposed to do, or 253 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 4: is it more a signpost that there's something to work. 254 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 3: Through both both? 255 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely both, but yeah, it's there for a reason. 256 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, but yeah, soon from this comment, just write 257 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: those things down and have the conversation with your mum. 258 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 2: Communication key, like when you don't know something, ask Like 259 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 2: I always find this lately a lot of people like 260 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: I don't know why he or she is thinking that, 261 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: and I'm like, go and ask him. Yeah, then you'll 262 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: find out, Like just use communication, but to actually go 263 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: and communicate, it's such a big thing for everyone. 264 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 3: And so I get it. 265 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: I get why they can't, but that would fix everything. 266 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 4: And do you have maybe two tips for listeners who 267 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 4: want to start communicating better but get a bit nervous too. 268 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, so write it down. 269 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: I write stuff down too, Like I feel like my 270 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: communication skills are really good, but I still write stuff 271 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: down and sit down with someone, with your partner or 272 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: whoever you feel safe with, and write down. Yeah, I've 273 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 2: done it, Like towards a real estate agent I had. 274 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: I didn't want to call him up, so I wrote 275 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 2: down what I would talk to him about and what 276 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: he would talk to me, my intentions and but and 277 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 2: then when I go to have that conversation. The keys 278 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: to have that safe space. But be true, be true 279 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: to your word, and and it'll be really frightening. But 280 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: everyone knows when you face a fear, and when you 281 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: face something, it's always good on the other side. Like 282 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: you always get this nice warm feeling after that. Yeah, 283 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 2: like I can't believe I did that. 284 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 3: I feel so good. 285 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: And you always say, oh, I should have done it sooner. Yeah, 286 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: every time. So yeah, just whatever process feels comfortable. That's 287 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 2: what I like to do. Write stuff down, and I'm 288 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: just a bit more visual, But you just tackle it 289 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: head on. That's still a good approach because something bad 290 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: might happen in that conversation. You might say something bad, 291 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: but whenever there's something. 292 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 4: Bad, something good. 293 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's what I would do. 294 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: We're just taking a quick break in today's podcast to 295 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: let you know about our brand new course, Find your Voice, 296 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: our complete step by step guide on how to start 297 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: and scale your very own podcasts. If you're one of 298 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: our biz career or marketing goals, or you're just someone 299 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: looking to scale your personal brand and you're thinking of 300 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: starting a podcast, then you will love this course. 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Even writing this email, 311 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 4: I feel a massive tightening in my chest and will 312 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 4: now feel anxious for hours. I know from listening to 313 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 4: similar episodes that this actually has everything to do with 314 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 4: me in my issues and something I need to work through. 315 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 4: I just have no idea where to start, so I'd 316 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 4: love some brutally honest advice, please. Some things that have 317 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 4: made me triggered are when I see her name on 318 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 4: my phone or hearing it in conversation. Anytime she sees me. 319 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 4: It always leads to tearing her son down to my 320 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 4: face and me feeling completely useless because I couldn't find 321 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 4: my voice to stand up for him. Hearing her complain 322 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,719 Speaker 4: to her son that she never gets to see her 323 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 4: grandson yet she lives thirty minutes away and is constantly 324 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 4: in town. If I didn't talk to her again, it 325 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 4: would be a massive weight off my shoulders. But I 326 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 4: also know that it's not fixing the. 327 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 3: Issue, all right. 328 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, the answer is definitely not to block her out. 329 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 2: And she is definitely correct that there's something inside of 330 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 2: her what she hates that's actually inside of her mother 331 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: in law. But that's a whole different thing to wine. 332 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 2: So where she needs to try to get to is 333 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: to love her mother in law for those things that 334 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: she actually hates about it. And when those triggers come in, 335 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 2: like I said before, take a step back, do your 336 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: three breaths through your belly, like put your hand on 337 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 2: your belly, do three breaths, and then exhale it slowly 338 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 2: and then and say thank you, thank you for that trigger, 339 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 2: thank you for letting me know that those things annoy 340 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: the shit out of me and have gratitude towards those things. 341 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 2: And this is another case of writing down a conversation 342 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 2: that she needs to have with her mother in law, 343 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 2: set some boundaries because they're getting stood on, and if 344 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 2: that's a really big thing to have that communication and 345 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: stand up for herself in that way, which that's very 346 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: similar to my wife. So like the bigger thing is 347 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 2: to go and talk to someone about it, like more 348 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 2: like a trauma specialist therapist. But the first things, yeah, 349 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: to set those boundaries and just communicate with her and say, look, 350 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 2: I don't like these things. I don't like when you 351 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 2: talk like this, And it's going to be really hard 352 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 2: to do that like that, it'd be so hard, yeah, but. 353 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 3: That would help her massively. 354 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 4: And do you feel like the because obviously one of 355 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 4: the dot points was that the mother in law complains 356 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 4: about not seeing the grandson and also talks down on 357 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 4: her son, which is obviously this person's partner or husband. 358 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 4: Do you think that would be the main sort of 359 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 4: source of the trigger? And then this like extra reaction 360 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 4: of every time she sees her name or thinks about 361 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 4: her she feels anxious for hours after comes from not 362 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 4: having dealt with the previous triggers. Or do you think 363 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 4: it's a whole other thing. 364 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 2: It's a stabbing the dark leg without her here, Yeah, 365 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: and me asking her a lot of questions and what's 366 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 2: going on. 367 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's definitely. 368 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 2: Triggers where it has come up in her life previously, 369 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 2: and it's just but yeah, triggers are very they're very 370 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 2: difficult because they show up in these sorts of situations 371 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: where they're not really to do with that actual person. Yeah, 372 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: that person. So it's usually internal and something from a 373 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 2: completely different scenario, maybe when they were a kid or 374 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 2: some other trigger. So it's a loaded question. 375 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 4: How would yeah, how would you? Obviously we can't ask 376 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 4: other questions. What sort of thing should she ask herself 377 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 4: to maybe try to get to the bottom of it. 378 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: I always like to say, why why are you getting 379 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: these triggers? Yeah, and dive in onto that. Whenever anyone 380 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 2: says anything about something being triggered in their life. I 381 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 2: just always go to why why do you do that? 382 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 2: And answer that question, and there's usually another why question 383 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: in that question, and you dive deeper and you think, 384 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: why do I do that? What feeling am I going 385 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 2: to get? What feeling do I get? And then why 386 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 2: do I get that feeling? 387 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 4: Yeah? 388 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: Keep saying why and yeah, you get deeper and deeper 389 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 2: and deeper. And she could journal her about that and 390 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: go deeper, but it's hard to find what the actual 391 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 2: triggers are without a professional. Yeah, they're just Yeah, it's 392 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 2: a bit difficult. But on a conscious level, you just 393 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 2: communication set in the boundaries like that's that's just the 394 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 2: go to and. 395 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's just all I would say. 396 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 4: And another thing, I feel like i've from reading that 397 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 4: she's really given her power away to her mother in law, 398 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 4: like the fact that she wrote this email and then 399 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 4: said that she'd feel anxious for hours after she's given 400 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 4: that power away. She could make the decision like I'm 401 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 4: going to write this email. It's going to be uncomfortable, 402 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 4: but five minutes later I will be fine, Like it 403 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 4: doesn't need to linger. But she's given all this power 404 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 4: to her mother in law who probably is just going 405 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 4: about her life doing whatever she won't. 406 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 2: It'd be nothing for her. Yeah, it would not even 407 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 2: be anything for her. Yeah, And so she needs to 408 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 2: take that power back and said her bad. Yeah, and 409 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 2: it just just writes some stuff down and write what 410 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: she wants to say to her. 411 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 412 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 2: But at the start of that, she needs to give 413 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 2: her mother in law a safe space. And whenever she's 414 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 2: triggered and she's like, oh, it's all right name Yeah, 415 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: and then she is saying that in her head, she's 416 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: feeding that trigger. So it's to catch that trigger and say, no, 417 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: I'm grateful for her because without her, I wouldn't have 418 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 2: my son. Yeah, that sort of thing of like what's 419 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 2: the gratitude around this? And coming back to that and 420 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: then and then when it comes up again, what's something 421 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: else that you're grateful for for your mother in law? Yeah, 422 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: And when you have a bunch like because all those 423 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 2: triggers will be bad and as you know, and there's bad, 424 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 2: there's good, So write those bad things down. But then 425 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: right there'd be math, there'd be a lot of good 426 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: things about her mother in law. So yeah, she could 427 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: write all those down and have a look at them. 428 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: And then have a look and take a step back 429 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: and think, wow, she's actually pretty powerful. But I don't 430 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 2: want to be around that negativity because a lot of 431 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: people have their own issues and they put on their 432 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 2: negativity to you, and then that's the boundary, that's the communication. 433 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: So she'll set her boundaries and say, look, I don't 434 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 2: want this in my life. I don't need this. If 435 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 2: you want to come and see the kids, this is 436 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 2: my boundary. 437 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 3: This is where it is. You have to. 438 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: Meet these standards of my family, otherwise you're not allowed 439 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 2: to come. And when you do that, people respect you 440 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 2: more because yeah, it's really I runic, because yeah, you 441 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 2: think you want to love someone, you give them so 442 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 2: much love, but as soon as you stop giving that 443 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: love to someone, they turn around and think, hey, I'm 444 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 2: not getting that love anymore, and they give you. 445 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 4: Love to get more like because they're missing yours. 446 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy how it works, and it goes against 447 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 2: whatever what we think. I've been through that lately. 448 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah it's wild. 449 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so but that's really hard because that's gone against 450 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: what lets yeah, everything you've been brought up, and it'd 451 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 2: be like, oh, if I don't do this, I'm not 452 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: going to get what I want to get. Yeah, but 453 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: to actually let it go, that's when you get it. Wow. Yeah, 454 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 2: it's easy to say, yeah, it's it's the whole other thing. 455 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 2: But take a little step when there's a big journey 456 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: ahead of you. It's that one little step at the 457 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: start that you'll complete it in the end. Yeah, So 458 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 2: take that one step. 459 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 4: Love it. Thanks for coming, Cooper. 460 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. 461 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 4: We've loved having your thoughts and so different and so insightful. 462 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 4: We'll have to have you back one awesome bye bye. 463 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to another episode of 464 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: the Rise and Conquer podcast. If you enjoyed it and 465 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: want more, come connect with us on Instagram at Riseinconquer 466 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: dot podcast and join our Facebook discussion group, a Rise 467 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: and Concer podcast community. 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