1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Good morning, Happy Tuesday, and welcome to today's edition of 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: The Daily Odds. I am Zara's sidelight, and as always, 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: I'm joined by co founder of the Daly Ods, Sam Kozlowski. 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 2: Hey everyone, how are you feeling today? 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: Sam? 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 3: Things are good. 7 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 2: We have another massive day of Olympic action. I think 8 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: we've tipped over now the halfway mark. We are in 9 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 2: to the back end. You can expect things like a marathon. 10 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: You can expect the back end of the track and 11 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: field and some really exciting team sports finals. 12 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: I did see a tweet that said Sydney siders are 13 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: so desperate for the Olympics to continue that it would 14 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: be rude not to just play the two thousand Olympics 15 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: straight afterwards, broadcast by Channel seven. 16 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on that. 17 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: It's either we play the entire two thousand Olympics in 18 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: fool for the next two weeks after the Olympics, or 19 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: we get started on inventing new sports. I'm in favor 20 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: of the ten meters sprint. I think that would really 21 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: separate the true competitors from the week ones. 22 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: Well, before we jump into the day's Olympic news, we 23 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: do have to do the honorary COVID numbers, so straight 24 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: into it. New South Wales yesterday recorded two hundred and 25 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: seven locally acquired cases and fifty one of those were 26 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: infectious in the community. Again, the big number here is 27 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: that the isolation status of forty six cases still remains 28 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: under investigation, so it is likely that that number could 29 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: be a lot higher. There wasn't much better news out 30 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: of Queensland, where the state recorded thirteen new locally acquired 31 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: cases yesterday and unfortunately eleven LGAs in Southeast Queensland got 32 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: this news. 33 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 4: So it's starting to become clear that the initial three 34 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,919 Speaker 4: day lockdown will be insufficient to deal with this outbreak, 35 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 4: and so we're advising Southeast Queenslanders today in those eleven 36 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 4: LGAs that the lockdown will be extended until four pm 37 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 4: one Sunday. That will make it an eight day lockdown. 38 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: The trial for the defamation case brought on by war 39 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: veteran Ben Roberts Smith, which we've talked about a number 40 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: of times on this podcast, has been adjourned to the 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: three months due to Sydney's COVID nineteen outbreak. So the 42 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: case now has been adjourned until November one. As the 43 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: majority of the remaining witnesses are outside New South Wales 44 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: so can't travel in to be cross examined. Robert Smith 45 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: is suing The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age and The 46 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: Canberra Times over stories that reported serious allegations of war crimes, 47 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 2: bullying and domestic violence. Robert Smith has denied all of 48 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: the allegations. 49 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: Belarusian sprinter and Olympic athlete Kristina siman Yuskaya has alleged 50 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: she was forced to pack for being taken to the 51 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: airport in Tokyo by team officials against her will. The 52 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: athlete says that she was put under pressure to return 53 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: home after criticizing the Belarus team officials on social media. 54 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: The IOC later confirmed that it had spoken to the athlete, 55 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: saying that she had told us she feels safe. 56 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 3: She's now in police protection. 57 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: And in today's good news. To be honest with you, 58 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: it was my moment of the Olympics. Olympic high jumpers 59 00:02:55,400 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: Italy jin Marco Tamberi and Mutaz Bashim of Qatar agree 60 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: read to tie first in the men's high jump event 61 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: and share the gold medal on Sunday night, after both 62 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 2: athletes executed each of their first six jumps, they couldn't 63 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: be split. They both jumped two point three nine meters 64 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: and they elected not to compete for the gold outright, 65 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: but rather to share it. The two athletes literally asked 66 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: the official, can we have two golds? And the official agreed. 67 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 2: Yesterday we found out some pretty market moving news. There 68 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: was an announcement that after Pay, the leading Australian by 69 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: now pay later service, is being bought by Square, which 70 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: is a US tech payments giant. For more on this story, 71 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: it's one of the biggest transactions in Australian corporate history. 72 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: We're being joined by Bryce and Alec from Equity Mates. 73 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: Equity Mates is Australia's leading financial podcast and it's a 74 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: pleasure to have them on the Daily Ods today. Bryce 75 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: and Aleck, can you tell me a little bit about 76 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: what actually happened yesterday with after pay and Square? 77 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 5: Massive day For after Yesterday, Square, a massive payments company 78 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 5: over in America, announced plans to acquire after Pay in 79 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 5: an all stock deal which surprised the market, valuing after 80 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 5: Pay at thirty nine billion Australian dollars, which is pretty 81 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 5: phenomenal giving that after Pay has only been listed now 82 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 5: for six years and. 83 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 2: Did we see this move coming? Was this predicted? 84 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,119 Speaker 6: No, I definitely wasn't predicted. Thirty nine billion dollars makes 85 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 6: it the largest merger or acquisition in Australian stock market history. 86 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 6: So many would have thought after pay was too big 87 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 6: to be acquired, But when you're talking about the scale 88 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 6: of some of these big US tech companies, they're just 89 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 6: another size bigger again. 90 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: And so for those who aren't well versed in this 91 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 2: whole world of mergers and acquisitions, what do you think 92 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 2: kind of happened here? Would Square have approached after pay? 93 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 2: Would they have slid in and said, guys, we're just 94 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 2: in doing business with you? 95 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of DM Yeah. 96 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: Jack Dawsey getting hit up by Nick Molna on the 97 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 2: d What do you think happened? Was this an after 98 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: pay approach? 99 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 6: Do you think what's being reported is Square and after 100 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 6: Pay are both going after merchants. 101 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: In the US. 102 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 6: A lot of Square merchants were asking Square to put 103 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 6: after pay functionality in their point of sale system and 104 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 6: that was the first time Square heard of after pay, 105 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 6: This Australian company trying to acquire customers over in the US. 106 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 6: They started doing their due diligence on after pay after 107 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 6: getting these requests from their merchants took six months and 108 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 6: then they announced it today. So that's the best word 109 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 6: of mouth you can have, really, people begging for other 110 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 6: companies to integrate your services. 111 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 2: I guess that's how you really know that you've made 112 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: something that has a real place in the market is 113 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 2: when it's good organic kind of desire. So let's talk 114 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: to the daily oos listener who's got after pay stocks? 115 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 2: And I have a feeling there are quite a few. 116 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: Let's say you've got, you know, three thousand dollars of 117 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: after pay stocks. Is anything you need to be doing 118 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: right now? Are you going to be getting a check 119 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: in the mail? Like what happens from here? 120 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: Nothing you need to be doing. 121 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 5: I mean, yesterday you would have been pretty happy that 122 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 5: the stock jumped from ninety six close to the one 123 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 5: hundred and twenty six dollar per share price that Square 124 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 5: are going to be paying. Really, the way that this 125 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 5: deal is constructed is that for after pay shareholders, they 126 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 5: will be essentially transferred across into Square shares. So for 127 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 5: every after pay share that you might own, you will 128 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,119 Speaker 5: get zero point three seven five shares in Square Quare 129 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 5: is listed in the States, but they're looking to list 130 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 5: here in Australia as well, so that Australian shareholders will 131 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 5: be able to trade the stock. 132 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: But there's really nothing you have to do. The deal 133 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: is not looking to be. 134 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 5: Completed until early next year, so it's not going to 135 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 5: be something that's happening overnight. But you will essentially be 136 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 5: given the opportunity to cash out. Once your Square stock 137 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 5: comes in, you can sell otherwise you're going to have 138 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 5: Square shares. 139 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 2: It's the first time in a little while that I 140 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: can remember where such a popular stock has had this 141 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: major acquisition episode, So it's going to be really interesting 142 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: to see all the messaging and how shareholders actually react 143 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: to suddenly having a new company in their portfolio. 144 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, it will be I mean, there's been some famous 145 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 6: ones in history, probably Westfield was the most recent really 146 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 6: big company to get acquired. But after Pay is just 147 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 6: so in the culture. I guess everyone is talking about it, 148 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 6: everyone's using it, so it's a big one to see 149 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 6: what will happen. 150 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: And last question for me guys before we get going 151 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: with our days, is this the start of a trend? 152 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: Do you think of these awesome Australian startups and tech 153 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: companies being acquired by overseas markets or do you think 154 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: this is the irregularity in the market. 155 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 6: I think we have to say that the Australian tech 156 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 6: scene is having a moment. Obviously Alassian was out in 157 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 6: front and there now listed in the US. Canva is 158 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 6: just going from strength to strength after pay getting acquired zero, 159 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 6: going strong entering new markets. Although they're from New Zealand. 160 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 6: It's pretty cool to see these Australian tech companies take 161 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 6: on the world. What I think this is indicating is 162 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 6: just how hot by Now pay Later is. Obviously we've 163 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 6: seen it in Australia for a while and Australia has 164 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 6: really been out in front with buy now, Pay Later, 165 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 6: but it is taking on the world. It's really taking 166 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 6: market share away from credit cards and other forms of 167 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 6: payment in the US. It's getting bigger everywhere. So last 168 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 6: week we had PayPal turn on paying for Apple announced 169 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 6: that they were going to partner with Goldman Sachs to 170 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 6: do buy now, Pay Later. I wouldn't expect this to 171 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 6: be the last deal in this space. Overall, across the world, 172 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 6: buy now pay Later is less than two percent of 173 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 6: all transactions, so the market's going to keep growing. More 174 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 6: and more people are going to get interested in the space, 175 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 6: and it won't be the last deal. 176 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 3: Probably no guarantees. 177 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 2: We'll have to circle back in a few months and 178 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: see what Equity makes in the daily OZ sales for overseas. 179 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: Until then, Bryce and Aleck have a fantastic Tuesday. Thanks 180 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: so much for joining us. You can listen to Equity 181 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: Mates wherever you get your podcast and follow them on Instagram. 182 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: They've got a fantastic Instagram here at the Daily os Web. 183 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: Big fans, bryceon Alec, Thank you so much. 184 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 3: Thanks Sam, appreciate you having us on. Thank you