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Speaker 1: It's a special Will and Woody podcast. Mini. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you're not as decorated as the guests we've currently got

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Speaker 1: on the phone. She's a two time the AFLW Premiership player,

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Speaker 1: two time w NBA champion and Order of Australian recipient.

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Speaker 1: It is Aaron Phillips who joins us right now.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, guys.

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Speaker 1: Pleasure to have you mate. If you just missed it,

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Speaker 1: Aaron just lost Australia's Easiest quiz. So to rub salt

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Speaker 1: in the wound there eron but oh.

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Speaker 2: I know I should have my Order of Australia taken

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Speaker 2: off of me. That was horrendous.

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Speaker 3: I would hope so, I would bloody hope so. And

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Speaker 3: we'll take it, will take it, will take you, yeah,

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Speaker 3: as a duo. But Aaron, the reason we've got you

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Speaker 3: on is we'd love to hear your perspective on I

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Speaker 3: think it's the biggest news this week, even if you're

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Speaker 3: not a sports fan or cricket fan, But it's tim

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Speaker 3: pain with those that scandal that's come back up or

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Speaker 3: re emerge. It happened in twenty seventeen. He sent some

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Speaker 3: lude pictures to a staffer of cricket Tasmania. What he

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Speaker 3: did was very wrong, but again he has sorted out

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Speaker 3: with his wife. And the question to you is do

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Speaker 3: you think, as an athlete or a sportsperson in the

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Speaker 3: public eye that you have a higher standard to hit

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Speaker 3: as far as the way you live your life.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely I do. And you know what the thing is,

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Speaker 2: we're in the public eye, and so naturally that just

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Speaker 2: comes with extra responsibilities of being a decent human and

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Speaker 2: modeling itself the right way to people. So you know

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Speaker 2: a lot of athletes do think it's unfair, but that's

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Speaker 2: just that kind of comes with the job. And it's

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Speaker 2: also a privilege, I've got to say, like getting to

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Speaker 2: do something that you absolutely love and to have the

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Speaker 2: power in the platform to be able to go and

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Speaker 2: be a positive influence for young people for the next generation, Like,

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Speaker 2: that's really powerful. And I always think of it now

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Speaker 2: as you know, if my younger version looked up to me,

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Speaker 2: now would I would they be happy with me? But honestly,

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Speaker 2: isn't that hard just to be a decent human?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: It's just the right thing, and you know that that

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Speaker 2: should be what you should do at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day.

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Speaker 1: It's a good thing to aim for one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: It's a good message as well there And I think

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Speaker 1: I think a part of me did I do feel

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Speaker 1: I actually do feel sorry for Tim Payne because I

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Speaker 1: do think people make mistakes yea, and people flirt with

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Speaker 1: other people and that's I mean, how many times do

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Speaker 1: we have to see that on the news to know

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Speaker 1: that people will continue? It doesn't matter how many times

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Speaker 1: you've been married or redone your vows or whatever. You're

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Speaker 1: going to feel attracted to other people. That's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: And I think the part of me that felt sorry

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Speaker 1: for him was that he made up with his family.

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Speaker 1: His wife gave him, they've obviously been through a whole

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Speaker 1: bunch of therapy, and then it just got dragged out

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Speaker 1: into the public again in front of his family. That

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Speaker 1: was the hard thing to watch. That was the bit

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Speaker 1: where it was like, geez, I think they've been through it, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I.

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Speaker 2: Think you said it perfectly, like we all make mistakes, right,

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Speaker 2: And it's you know, and what we love like human behavior.

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Speaker 2: We love to like tear people down and we love

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Speaker 2: to you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: We want to We want the public wants to scope.

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Speaker 1: We want, we want to sacrifice somebody we can pin

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Speaker 1: up and hang all our own issues on.

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Speaker 2: We protect onto them definitely. But you know, I'm like

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Speaker 2: the biggest thing now for tim and for those that

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Speaker 2: do make mistakes, in which we all do. Like I said,

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Speaker 2: some are more significant than others. It's what you do next,

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Speaker 2: you know, And how do you can correct correct that,

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Speaker 2: how you can then learn and teach from your mistakes

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Speaker 2: so that someone else doesn't do the same thing. I

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Speaker 2: think that's really important. I think as society we've got to,

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Speaker 2: you know, we've got to have a bit of empathy

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Speaker 2: for people although they have done the wrong thing, and

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Speaker 2: try to help them become better, you know, rather than

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Speaker 2: just let's bury them. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, that's right, And that's that's the vibe at the moment,

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Speaker 1: I hope, because I know the Australian team, the actual

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Speaker 1: cricket team itself, came out and said that they were

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Speaker 1: really unhappy with the way that it got brought up.

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Speaker 3: Again and they wanted to play in the ashes and

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Speaker 3: he can. He can still play in the ashes, just

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Speaker 3: won't be the captain. So I do think that is

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Speaker 3: somewhat of a good middle ground to a fit with

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Speaker 3: it all coming out. Karon, thanks so much for your

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Speaker 3: time and any word on the new AFL season. Hey,

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Speaker 3: feeling for it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, really excited. I think we'll have a schedule out

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Speaker 2: next week. But god, it's not too far away, so

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Speaker 2: I expect you boys to be out there and some crows.

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Speaker 3: Gear to that in at the end, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: We'll be out there mate, it'd be great just for

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Speaker 1: the sound that you guys have finally opened the border

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Speaker 1: in South Australia as well.

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Speaker 2: So no two cases here already, So you know we're

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Speaker 2: basically we're about to start living with this virus. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're always going to do so. Yeah, it's going to

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Speaker 2: take South Australians a while to get used to it.

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Speaker 2: You guys have been used for so long. But we'll

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Speaker 2: be right here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. And you've blocked everyone from Byron Bay as well.

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Speaker 1: How are you going to stop that? I do what

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Speaker 1: I was worried about how they're going to pick him

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Speaker 1: at security, But I reckon if they just put you

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Speaker 1: at the security gate and you just got a chance

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Speaker 1: to spear tackle them if they walked through, then maybe

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Speaker 1: they'll keep them out.

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Speaker 2: I'll be there.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, so much for joining us ARIN It's always a pleasure, mate,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, hopefully in person next time. That'll be a trade.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, awesome, guys, thanks so much for having me here.

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Speaker 1: More of the boys on the Full Show podcast. You

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Speaker 1: know you want to