1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Now I did just mention this article in the Herald 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Sun a short time ago, which is raising eyebrows around 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: the nation. Indigenous patients are receiving fast tracked care over 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: other Victorians at a major Melbourne emergency department. It's sparking 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: allegations of discrimination. Now in an Australian first, staff at 6 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: Saint Vincent's Hospital have been ordered to treat all Indigenous 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: patients within thirty minutes of arrival, putting them ahead of 8 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: other patients in some cases. Now the move has prompted 9 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: warnings that prioritizing care based on race risked undermining confidence 10 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: in a public system already under intense strain. Now it 11 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: is it's something that there are those at work in 12 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: health are stepping up saying, you know, this does not 13 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: seem like it's the right thing to do. 14 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: Now. 15 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: Joining me on the line right now is the Northern 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: Territory Chief Minister Finochiao. Good morning to your Chief Minister. 17 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, and to your listeners. 18 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: Now Chief, very quick interview this morning. This situation in 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: Victoria raising eyebrows around the nation. We've got a situation 20 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: near in Victoria where it's being reported Indigenous patients are 21 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: receiving fast tracked care over other Victorians in a major 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:26,919 Speaker 1: Melbourne emergency department, sparking allegations of discrimination. Is this something 23 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: you'd ever consider for the Northern Territory? 24 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: No way in the world, Katie, And can I just say, 25 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: what on earth is going on in Victoria at the moment. 26 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 2: They have some serious problems that they need to get 27 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: their head around. Patient care should always be triarged based 28 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: on neat, not on the color of your skin, or 29 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: your race or your religion. It should be on your 30 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: health needs. And to think that there is a hospital 31 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: in this country doing anything other than that is truly 32 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: horrifying and will never ever happen here in the Northern Territory. 33 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: Oh Hospital spokes and defended the policy, saying it was 34 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: part of a broader effort to improve access for Indigenous patients. 35 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: She said that research conducted at that hospital showed First 36 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: Nations patients were on average waiting longer to be seen 37 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: compared to non Indigenous patients. I mean, here in the 38 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: Northern Territory, are you confident that, no matter where you 39 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: come from, what your background are is, you'll get seen 40 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: as quickly as possible in our emergency. 41 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 2: Departments, absolutely, Katie, And that's what our wonderful nurses and 42 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: all of our health professionals who work in our hospitals 43 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: and in our clinics are trained to do. We've all 44 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: been there before, whether for ourselves or with our kids. 45 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: And you line up, you tell your story, you sit down, 46 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: and then they are then juggling all of the demand. 47 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: Now I acknowledge, of course there is sometimes significant and 48 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: overwhelming pressure on those staff and on the system, and 49 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: Territorians far too often wait far too long. But that 50 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: is a different issue to the one that Victoria is 51 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 2: really moving ahead that I just think it's a move 52 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: in the wrong direction. It will inevitably undermine confidence in 53 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: the system, and it might even cause people not to 54 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: present to hospital when they need to, which could lead 55 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: to really catastrophic outcomes as well, which no one wants 56 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: to see. 57 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: There are some that might be listening this morning, Chief Minister, 58 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: that say, you know, some of our indigenous Territorians have 59 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: the worst health outcomes than anybody else around the nation, 60 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: and in some instances, you know, they may need to 61 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: be seen faster. 62 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: But that will be judged on the health scenario at 63 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: the time. And so of course if someone presents with 64 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: chronic condition, then the health professionals who manage the triage 65 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: will manage that appropriately. And that's exactly why a fair 66 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: and equitable system is what health systems should be delivering 67 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: and nothing other than that. 68 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: Lea watch a message for those working in the healthcare 69 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: system today, but also for those listening that are maybe 70 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: you know, lining up and having a wait for ages 71 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: to be seen. 72 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, just thank you so much. They are incredible. You know, 73 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: our heroes, our angels, the people that when we need 74 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: them the most are there for us no matter what. 75 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: And so you know, we recognize there is a lot 76 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: of pressure on territory wide hospital systems, but those stuff 77 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: in there, they all get a gold medal from me, Katie. 78 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: Chief Finister Leah Finocchiaro, thanks so much for the quick. 79 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 2: Chat this morning, No raise, take care everyone. 80 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:19,119 Speaker 1: Thank you