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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the

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Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm

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Speaker 1: Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, Nikki Wescott's

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Speaker 1: extravagant wedding is overshadowed by her husband's latest legal trouble.

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Speaker 1: Sophi Kasia hits back at critics after hard launching her

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Speaker 1: new relationship, and our highs and Lows of the week.

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Speaker 1: The first Tammy Hembrose ex fiance Matt Paul has surprised

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Speaker 1: the internet by announcing he's set to be a dad again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah so, the former Iron Man champion, who shares two

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Speaker 1: year old Posey with Tammy, revealed he's expecting a baby

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Speaker 1: with his new partner, Analise Otway. My first thought when

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Speaker 1: I saw this photo was how long has this couple

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Speaker 1: actually been together? I know things move quickly in the

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Speaker 1: influencer world, but analse wasn't even on my radar well.

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Speaker 1: According to The Courier, Matt and Analisa's relationship was first

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Speaker 1: made public back in May, so around six months ago,

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Speaker 1: and this was when the couple was spotted departing the

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Speaker 1: Gold Coast Airport with Posey to celebrate Matt's birthday. We

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Speaker 1: do love a timeline. So that was about eighteen months

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Speaker 1: after separating from Tammy hembro Now. The couple announced the

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Speaker 1: news in a joint Instagram post, with Annalise writing being

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Speaker 1: cooking a little more than just Matt's dinner lately, Baby

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Speaker 1: Paul arriving twenty twenty five with a blue love heart emoji.

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Speaker 1: That's an interesting caption. I mean to me, it comes

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Speaker 1: across a little bit sexist, like I've just strapped in

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Speaker 1: the kitchen making Matt's dinner all night. Yeah, it's an

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Speaker 1: odd one. I mean, I don't follow them, so maybe

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Speaker 1: it's on theme with the content that they share. Maybe

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Speaker 1: she likes cooking. I don't know. I mean, she has

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Speaker 1: eighteen thousand followers, so she's not a huge influencer. I'd

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Speaker 1: call her a micro influencer to be fair. It's really

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Speaker 1: hard coming up with captions for such important life milestones,

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Speaker 1: particularly on Instagram, when you're like, does this sound lame?

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Speaker 1: I really liked to ain Abigail Taylor Swift's friend, she

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Speaker 1: announced her pregnancy with I'm having his baby. Oh I

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Speaker 1: love her. Oh that's so good. What was interesting is

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Speaker 1: that Tammy and Matt's daughter, Posey appeared in the main

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Speaker 1: announcement folk so she was holding up the scan whilst

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Speaker 1: Matt had his hand on Analise's pregnant belly. And the

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Speaker 1: announcement post was a photo dumb, and it really showed

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Speaker 1: off the bond that Posey and Analise already share. So

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Speaker 1: in one of the photos, Annalise was sitting at the

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Speaker 1: edge of a pool and Posey was cuddling up to

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Speaker 1: her and looking at her belly. Then in another it

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Speaker 1: showed Annalise and Posey's shadows whilst they were holding hands,

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Speaker 1: and I just kind of forgot that Posey had this

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Speaker 1: other life with Matt and his family. I'm just so

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Speaker 1: used to only seeing Posey in Tammy's world and thinking

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Speaker 1: about how Matt Sekowski is going to be her stepdad.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even consider that she clearly has a new

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Speaker 1: step mum. It is really fascinating to see how both

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Speaker 1: parents are trying to push how amazing step parents their

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Speaker 1: other partners are. It's a bit like when you see

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Speaker 1: Kayla Etsinas's daughter Anna popping up in Rachel Dylon's content,

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Speaker 1: You're like, oh, that's right, Yeah, you sort of forget

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Speaker 1: It was really sweet because I saw Tammy congratulated the couple,

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Speaker 1: so she wrote under the post, so excited for you too,

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Speaker 1: with two crying face and a love heart. She continued,

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Speaker 1: Poe is going to be the best big sissy, and

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Speaker 1: Adelice replied saying She's going to be the best can't wait.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's nice that they're getting along. Absolute class

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Speaker 1: act there from Tammy Hembro. Matt Sakowski also got in

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Speaker 1: on the action, writing congratulations, guys, Posey will be the

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Speaker 1: best big sister. Have you noticed the commentary around Matt

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Speaker 1: Paul is, Oh, he's a good dad. What a great guy.

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Speaker 1: And I think he actually is a good dad. But

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Speaker 1: I think it's because it's in comparison to Reese Hawkins. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's they're incomplete contrast because Reese Hawkins doesn't often see

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Speaker 1: Bali currently, he doesn't really play much of a role

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Speaker 1: in their life. But one thing Tammy has always been

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Speaker 1: good at is having a strong relationship with her children's fathers.

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Speaker 1: Even though Reese isn't really in the picture publicly, she

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Speaker 1: is always very supportive and complimentary to him. That wasn't

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Speaker 1: always initially obviously when there were more feelings involved. But

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Speaker 1: by Tammy commenting under this pregnancy post, it led to

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Speaker 1: a lot of funs, calling them blended family goals. I

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Speaker 1: want to know what happens at Christmas? Do they all

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Speaker 1: catch up together? No, they have two separate things, which

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Speaker 1: blended family goals, but it's quite clear they still want

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Speaker 1: to have their separate occasion now. Matt and Annalise also

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Speaker 1: so they shared a very relaxed video of them finding

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Speaker 1: Now, this led Tammy to comment also the way I

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Speaker 1: immediately knew it was a boy by the massive smile

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Speaker 1: on Matt's face the next day, to which Analise replied,

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Speaker 1: ha ha, no secrets with that grin. Now that's a

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Speaker 1: very sweet comment, But how do you think she actually

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Speaker 1: feels about Tammy and Matt being so close? See? If

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Speaker 1: I was Annalise, I don't know if I would like

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Speaker 1: that comment because it's kind of like, oh, I know

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Speaker 1: Matt so well, yeah, I can just tell. And also

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit of an underhanded comment because it's

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Speaker 1: kind of inferring that he wasn't happy that Posey was

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Speaker 1: That comment is more for outsiders, because I look at

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Speaker 1: that and go, oh wow, those women must be really

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Speaker 1: That's why I was so confused, because after the love

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Speaker 1: fest in the comment section, I was surprised to see

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Speaker 1: a follower compare Anna Lisa's baby announcement with Tammy's announcement.

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Speaker 1: So the follower wrote, start contrast to when Tammy announced

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Speaker 1: her trap pregnancy to him, he looks stunned and in

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Speaker 1: complete despair. Nice to see you both genuinely happy and

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Speaker 1: a static. It's awful Now That comment hadn't been removed.

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Speaker 1: It's been up there for two days. And this of

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Speaker 1: course led me to go back and look at Tammy

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Speaker 1: and Matt's announcement, so I couldn't remember how they announced

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Speaker 1: their pregnancy. I will say these two announcement posts were

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Speaker 1: very different to one another, and It's not because Matt

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Speaker 1: the level of reduction quality. So whilst Matt and Anales's

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Speaker 1: mirror at their home. Matt and Tammy's were shot by

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Speaker 1: a professional videographer. Now, the start of the video was

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Speaker 1: and then suddenly it panned out to reveal that Tammy

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Speaker 1: had this big, pregnant belly. And I have to say

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Speaker 1: she planned every detail perfectly because Matt and her were

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Speaker 1: wearing these black matching outfits. And then Wolf and Saskia

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Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro has over seventeen million followers, Analise's only got

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Speaker 1: like eight thousand, so there's going to be a difference

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Speaker 1: the thirst for that type of information. I think it

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Speaker 1: would be disappointing if Tammy Hembro just put out a

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Speaker 1: really casual photo yeah, well, it's the difference between a

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Speaker 1: micro influencer and a mega influencer. But I actually think

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Speaker 1: it makes Matt and Analise look more genuine, like their

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Speaker 1: love life more genuine, because it's not so over the top.

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Speaker 1: Do you think they don't really want to shout it

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Speaker 1: from the rooftops too and make it so over the

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think so. I think it's a normal

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Speaker 1: Matt really did shout it from the rooftops with Tammy

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Speaker 1: in terms of their engagement and the baby, and that

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Speaker 1: didn't really go too well. So I can understand why

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Speaker 1: you'd want to keep this a little bit more casual,

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Speaker 1: bit more demure. I feel really excited. Podcaster Nicki Westcott

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Speaker 1: has tied the knot to her restaurant her partner Ollie

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Speaker 1: Frost in Byron Bay. The lavish, European inspired wedding was

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Speaker 1: so picture perfect it made the online pages of Vogue Australia. However,

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Speaker 1: one wedding guest's actions nearly spoilt the deal, and a

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Speaker 1: new legal drama has threatened to overshadow the hype amy.

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Speaker 1: Before we get into the drama, can you tell us

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Speaker 1: about the wedding day itself, because it looked beautiful. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this wedding has been all over my FAU page. It

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Speaker 1: was held at the Byron Bay Hintland Estate, which is

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Speaker 1: a Mediterranean inspired property owned by a close friend of

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Speaker 1: Nicki and Ollie's. I wonder if they've got a bit

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Speaker 1: possibly because this wedding has attracted the attention, as you said,

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Speaker 1: of Vogue Australia, so I'm sure that maybe there were

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Speaker 1: few people were blown away by how extravagant this wedding was.

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Speaker 1: was possibly going to be in Vogue magazine, and that

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Speaker 1: possibly going to pay to be in Vogue magazine. I mean,

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Speaker 1: cleared that one up. Well, I can see why, because

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Speaker 1: Nikki has a star power. The wedding was probably one

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Speaker 1: of the most beautiful influenza weddings I've seen. It was

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Speaker 1: styled and planned by Dedure Events, which is a prestigious

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Speaker 1: roaming Lemoncello carts, a champagne tower, dirty Martini's, and they

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Speaker 1: had these raw bars. There was just this amazing food

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Speaker 1: on display. They also, of course had caviat and a

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Speaker 1: personalized menu. So this menu was created just for the wedding.

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Speaker 1: It's not your stock standard one that you get at

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Speaker 1: this bar, no, your choice of just fish or chin.

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Speaker 1: like Nikki and this wedding planner made a huge effort

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Speaker 1: for these elements to be unique. They didn't want to

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Speaker 1: fact that they had unique elements. They even had custom

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Speaker 1: number plates on all of the wedding cars which said Frost,

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Speaker 1: which is Ollie's last name. You know, the big dollars

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Speaker 1: I mean, you've got a lot of pressure. If your

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Speaker 1: that child was made or who contributed to that child

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Speaker 1: being made, is of no importance at all. Now, one

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Speaker 1: follower wrote back, except to the baby itself, who it

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Speaker 1: is going to be very important to and to Sophie's credit,

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Speaker 1: she agreed with the comment and said exactly, this comment

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Speaker 1: refers to the general publics So she is saying that

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Speaker 1: the general public really has no right to know who

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Speaker 1: this sperm donor is. Well, they don't really have a

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Speaker 1: right to know who it is. But of course when

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Speaker 1: you're promoting these podcasts that you're on and you're doing

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Speaker 1: photo shoots and whatever and talking about it, it's going

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Speaker 1: to grow to further speculation. You're gonna be curious. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting because in this Stella article, which we touched

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Speaker 1: on on Tuesday, she also said that the only other

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Speaker 1: person who knows about this sperm donor and who he

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Speaker 1: is is her best friend, and she specifically not told

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Speaker 1: her family members about it. She confirmed that it's not

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Speaker 1: actually somebody in her life, like it's no, it's an

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Speaker 1: anonymous sperm donor. But I mean, sometimes when people do

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Speaker 1: go through the sperm donut process, they'll have a bit

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Speaker 1: of a laugh and they'll talk about some of the

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Speaker 1: qualities that the person have they don't but you don't

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Speaker 1: ever know their name. You just know specific like this

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Speaker 1: person is Brunette and this time. Oh exactly, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think she even wants to talk about that with

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Speaker 1: her friends and family. Yeah, well, let's get into our

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Speaker 1: highs and lows of the week. And sadly we are

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Speaker 1: missing case she's had to run off to feed Jack.

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Speaker 1: But we will kick on and I'm going to start

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Speaker 1: things with my low of the week. And this has

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Speaker 1: been one that I have been holding onto, probably for

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Speaker 1: about six months, so it's been really pissing me off.

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Speaker 1: There's a few things spring to mine. My love of

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Speaker 1: the week is that Mac have gotten rid of for

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Speaker 1: quite some time, my OG, which is the Mac Studio

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Speaker 1: Fixed Foundation. I have been wearing this makeup with this

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Speaker 1: foundation since I was twenty now, there is a very

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Speaker 1: long time, and it was a lotterly grail. That's a

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Speaker 1: lot of bottle of bottles of Mac as well. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's what it used to piss me off. I had

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Speaker 1: so many bottles that I could exchange for free lipsticks,

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Speaker 1: and then they got rid of that program. I'm a

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Speaker 1: big Mac fan, so this is why I've been sitting

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Speaker 1: on this one, because I thought I'll try their new formula.

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Speaker 1: So basically, this has been an OG staple for so

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Speaker 1: many people this foundation and then they changed it. They

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Speaker 1: put all of these like skin care products in there.

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Speaker 1: I don't want skincare in my makeup. I just want

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Speaker 1: the makeup to be good. This new sobe doesn't give

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Speaker 1: a fuck about what I skin looks at you skincare

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Speaker 1: at nighttime anyway. I don't need active ingredients in my skincare.

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Speaker 1: It's a very popular thing, isn't it like anyway, So

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Speaker 1: they have totally changed up this formula. It is absolute

479
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: shit house. I tried it for a couple of months.

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Speaker 1: It dried so quickly, It's streaky, the colors are different. Well,

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Speaker 1: you found a whole load of other people online who'd

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Speaker 1: been saying the same thing. Then I found my people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I didn't Actually it was a Reddit thread. Everyone

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Speaker 1: was ragging on it. So I want this to be

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Speaker 1: my public declaration for MAC. Can you please go back

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Speaker 1: to the old formula. I'm so passionate about this. I

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Speaker 1: want to start some sort of petition should they're down

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Speaker 1: in sales though, Well, it what makes me think, like,

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Speaker 1: why did they change the formula for it was so popular? Well,

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Speaker 1: they've changed it. They want to keep up with the

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Speaker 1: hype of oh we've got this in it and this yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well again, like I am on the hunt for a

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Speaker 1: new makeup, I have been testing a whole bunch of

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Speaker 1: new foundations. If anyone has a great foundation that they

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Speaker 1: use that is full coverage, that is my key, full

496
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Speaker 1: coverage or any contact at MAC that could fix this

497
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Speaker 1: has correctify this situation. You high. My high of the

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Speaker 1: week is I am jetting off on a holiday finally.

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Speaker 1: It's my first holiday in five years next week, so

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Speaker 1: I will be absent from the podcast. I'm heading to

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Speaker 1: Port Douglas. Everyone has warned me that it's going to

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Speaker 1: be very, very hot. I've been checking the forecast. It's

503
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Speaker 1: around thirty to thirty one degrees, but I think the

504
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: humidity will be high. And I have been looking for

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Speaker 1: my holiday wardrobe. I stupidly have been looking for months,

506
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Speaker 1: but I haven't actually bought anything. So I need to

507
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Speaker 1: pull the pin and buy some clothes this week. What's exciting?

508
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: That's exciting exciting to and all of the summer clothes

509
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: are out at the moment. Well, I keep waiting for

510
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Speaker 1: the Black Friday sales, but I think I'm just gonna

511
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Speaker 1: miss them. If there's any like cool girls that listen

512
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: and always know the right thing to wear on holidays

513
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Speaker 1: because I've been searching Pinterest. I just want to have

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Speaker 1: a few outfits that are casual but cool at the

515
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Speaker 1: same time. Let me know what brands you're wearing. Well,

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Speaker 1: my high of the week was picking up my little kitten, Winny.

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Speaker 1: And I've shared a few photos on Instagram of hair

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Speaker 1: and everyone's been like, oh my god, what breed of

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Speaker 1: can issue? She's absolutely gorgeous, and I'm like, she's a moggie, Like, well,

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Speaker 1: you rescued her because she was living at your husband's

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Speaker 1: grandfather's property. They have a couple of stray cats up there,

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Speaker 1: and she is just gorgeous, Like she looks so much

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Speaker 1: like our two childhood cats, Theodore and Lulu. Yes, And

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Speaker 1: I've had a lot of fun as well, because I

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Speaker 1: had been planning for the last week to prank my

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Speaker 1: dad because last year around the same time, Sophie and

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Speaker 1: I went down to the Animal Welfare League and we

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Speaker 1: rescued two kittens for Mum and dad, but we gave

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Speaker 1: them to them as a surprise and Dad was a

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Speaker 1: little put off at first, but then instantly love the cats.

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Speaker 1: He's a softy. He is obsessed with them, so I

532
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Speaker 1: wanted to see what his reaction was if I came

533
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Speaker 1: with another cat. And let's just say he was not impressed.

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Speaker 1: It's Winny, your daughter. I having to her, thanks for it.

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Speaker 1: We're not having three cats books to your mind? Yeah, Winnie, Winnie.

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Speaker 1: I love how quickly he switched though, as soon as

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Speaker 1: he heard it wasn't his cat. He's like, what's her name? Yeah? Now,

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Speaker 1: what's your low of the week. Well, my love of

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00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: the week is discovering that you're going on holiday next week.

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Speaker 1: I completely forgot, so I'm like, fuck, that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a busy week next Well, you have to work around

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00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 1: Kate's schedule because she has snuck off to go home

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00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: to feed her something shots fired. Look, I'm happy to

544
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: go with the flow. I'm more concerned about our work

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Speaker 1: with our PR company. But do you know what you

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00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: deserve a holiday? As you said, you haven't been on

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00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: a trip for five years. I'm literally going for a week.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think that, oh, you know, you'll miss

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Speaker 1: me too much. Well I do. Hope you have a

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00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 1: really lovely time, and please don't forget. If you are

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Speaker 1: listening and you've enjoyed this episode, we have a subscriber

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Speaker 1: episode dropping tomorrow. It's a pretty juicy one. Yeah, it's

553
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Speaker 1: was recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana people

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Speaker 1: of the Adelaide Plains. We pay respect to elders past

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Speaker 1: and present,