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Speaker 2: Hello, good morning, i'd lost you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, look, it's going so well. We've got now round

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Speaker 1: So how far off? I mean, I know that these

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Speaker 2: Look, it's it's win win when we take people here

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Speaker 1: Now, Scott, before I let you go this morning, I

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Speaker 1: Not for all the tea in China, Scott, no way.

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Speaker 2: Now. Look me too, I've got a master's in politics

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Speaker 2: this world that was out there. It was, you know,

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Speaker 2: an educative reader kind of moment for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I think it's I reckon. This sounds like

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Speaker 1: a really good course and a great way to hopefully,

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Speaker 1: you know, sort of to get people involved in politics

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Speaker 1: that maybe works or whether it could be an option

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Speaker 1: for them. So Scott, I appreciate your time this morning.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having a chat with us.

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Speaker 2: Great talking with UKD and have a fantastic day you two.

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Speaker 1: Thank you