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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nason.

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Speaker 2: Barack Obama is in town and everyone's talking about him.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. He sat down yesterday with Julie Bishop to discuss

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Speaker 1: leadership in the world's future, including the rise of China, Russia, Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: Spoke about a whole lot of things. What I find

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Speaker 1: most interesting was when she said to him, what's your

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Speaker 1: biggest regret, and he said it was not being able

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Speaker 1: to change the gun laws in America in wake of

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Speaker 1: the Sandy Hook school shooting where twenty children and six

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Speaker 1: teachers were killed. He said, that's the closest I came

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Speaker 1: during my year's in office to feeling cynical about the

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Speaker 1: capacity of politics, of people to join together to do

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Speaker 1: what's obvious. He said, You run your race as best

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Speaker 1: you can, You try to make a good handover, and

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Speaker 1: you have to have the satisfaction from feeling you did

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Speaker 1: the best you can. I think not changing though the

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Speaker 1: gun laws, was an example of me trying very hard,

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Speaker 1: but I couldn't budge Congress, and it was set at

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Speaker 1: the time. If you can't, if you accept that that

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Speaker 1: twenty children can be shot in the face and you

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Speaker 1: don't change your laws, then that's what America will accept.

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Speaker 1: That's what it will walk past. And the rest of

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Speaker 1: the world was completely shocked. And it's interesting that that

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Speaker 1: conversation happened last night in light of another shooting yesterday

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Speaker 1: in Nashville. Three children age nine years old, three adult

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Speaker 1: staffers killed in a shooting at a religious school in Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Just horrendous. And I read a thing yesterday that was

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Speaker 1: I thought was very interesting. This guy on Twitter, Jack

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Speaker 1: Hopkins is his name. He said, mass shooters don't choose

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Speaker 1: the AR fifteen because it looks cool. They choose it

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Speaker 1: because it can kill upwards of thirty people before needing

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Speaker 1: to reload. On September twenty eight, nineteen eighty two, twelve

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Speaker 1: year old Mary Kellerman was hospitalized after being poisoned by

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Speaker 1: a killer who laced a bottle of Tylanol that was

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Speaker 1: on a store shelf with cyanide. She died the next morning.

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Speaker 1: A day later, six more would die from poison to tyleranol. Wow,

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Speaker 1: barktober five, Johnson, do you remember this? Barktober five? Johnson

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Speaker 1: and Johnson had issued a nationwide recall of thirty one

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Speaker 1: million bottles of tail and ol launched a massive advertising

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Speaker 1: campaign to get people not to consume any of their

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Speaker 1: products that contained any of this stuff, and they said

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Speaker 1: the ninety and so that changed the way that we

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Speaker 1: now buy products all that Tampa proofs. The nineteen eighty

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Speaker 1: two event inspired a rapid and radical shift in how

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Speaker 1: certain products are sold, prompting manufacturers to use tamperproof packaging

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Speaker 1: and untold lives have been saved, and the crisis management

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Speaker 1: response by Johnson and Johnson is taught today as a

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Speaker 1: model of corporate public relations and public safety. These shootings

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Speaker 1: should be simple to fix. We know how to rapidly

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Speaker 1: bring about a massive reduction in school shootings and the

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Speaker 1: senseless death of children and staff. We know how, but

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Speaker 1: it's not happening because organizations like the NRA spend millions

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Speaker 1: upon millions of dollars to make sure that politicians do

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Speaker 1: not allow these solutions to be implemented. NRA rewards politicians

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Speaker 1: for allowing our children to continue to be slaughtered. It's

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Speaker 1: not that we don't know how to crush this. That's

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Speaker 1: never been the problem.

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Speaker 2: Wow, it is amazing.

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Speaker 1: I want to know and everyone else around the world

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Speaker 1: goes how more obvious.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but also just getting America to think differently about guns.

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Speaker 2: We went to a gun range over in a wave

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Speaker 2: and you get to fire all sorts of crazy guns

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Speaker 2: and we finished up doing The guy says, yeah.

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Speaker 3: You guys, you know you don't have those guns in Australia.

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Speaker 3: And my son said, yeah, well we had a massacre

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Speaker 3: and a bunch of people died, and he guess you

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Speaker 3: had one massacre and my kids went yeah, and he

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Speaker 3: was like he was coming from the point, you've only

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Speaker 3: had one, Come on, keep going wherever the point go. Well,

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Speaker 3: one's too many, yes, and you can't.

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Speaker 1: Be done, Blaine. The British change their rules. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what

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Speaker 1: Horrific interesting that Barack Obama feels that that's his biggest

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Speaker 1: regret