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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Satham, let's go into the Jonesy demand RUMs right now

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Speaker 2: for the pub test this morning. So you watch sixty

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Speaker 2: minutes on Sunday night and Pete Evans's story there sixty

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Speaker 2: minutes of getting a lot of shade for running the story.

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Speaker 2: Does it pass the pub test? I do appreciate the

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Speaker 2: irony that we're talking about Pete Evans right now, But

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Speaker 2: I was watching that story. You know, Pete Evans, he

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Speaker 2: was robbed.

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding?

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Speaker 2: Every picture of him surfing, they had him cooking it up,

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Speaker 2: and I know he's a competent surfer, but Pete Evans.

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Speaker 1: Is that mean he fell off?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? He is no more than a flat earther. He's

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Speaker 2: pretty much a flat Earth society thing. So I would

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Speaker 2: say this, Pete, stick to making your EMU balls. But

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Speaker 2: whatever you make, and you paleot stuff, but don't be

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Speaker 2: giving people advice.

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Speaker 1: Don't give them medical advice.

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Speaker 2: It's giving open ended stuff. So, and this is the thing.

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Speaker 2: As long as Andy Vak's nutbags stay between one and

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Speaker 2: three percent, we're all going to be okay. But as

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Speaker 2: soon as it gets past that tipping point, then you've

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Speaker 2: got a problem, and things like Smallpark's German means all

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Speaker 2: those things are going to come back. But I would

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Speaker 2: say this, how does a chef become how does he

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Speaker 2: get so many people listening to it?

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Speaker 1: Because he has, through network television and through his books,

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Speaker 1: cultivated an audience. This is so the question today isn't

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Speaker 1: so much about Pete Evans views. Your point is there'll

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Speaker 1: always be people who and there's only like, as you say,

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Speaker 1: up to three or five percent of people who hold

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Speaker 1: similar views to him, whether it's anti vaxx, anti fluoride,

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Speaker 1: five g the Bill Gates conspiracy theory. He's across all

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Speaker 1: of this stuff and he thinks coronavirus isn't real, all

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Speaker 1: this sort of stuff. But does should sixty minutes be

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Speaker 1: giving him a platform.

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Speaker 2: And particularly when he didn't really have anything to say.

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Speaker 3: I'll just make this one statement. If I disappear or

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Speaker 3: have a freaking weird accident, it wasn't an accident, okay,

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Speaker 3: you know, And that's probably the most conspirable thing that

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Speaker 3: I will say that I am of what I believe,

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Speaker 3: complete sound mind and body, and screw it.

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Speaker 1: See my problem with this is that this is what

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Speaker 1: the media does. It's the same with climate change, all

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Speaker 1: those things. There'll be ninety nine percent of scientists who'll

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Speaker 1: say this. They'll find a fraction one percent who says

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Speaker 1: something different. They make it look like it's a fifty

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Speaker 1: to fifty debate. By putting someone like this on television,

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Speaker 1: are we normalizing he's dangerous unscientific beliefs?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So what do you think sixty minutes running the Pete

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Speaker 1: Evans story does that pass the pub test?

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Speaker 2: Well, doctor Darren Saunders, he's a doctor. This is what

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Speaker 2: he says. This wacko conspiracy stuff, the anti vacksin bs

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Speaker 2: are all designed to harvest eyeballs to sell his books.

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Speaker 2: He supplements and process foods. He doesn't care how much

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Speaker 2: damage it does, as long as he keeps the money

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Speaker 2: coming in. That or he's genuinely lost it, that's what

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Speaker 2: doctor Darren Saunders says.

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe Pete Evans has lost it. That's a separate discussion.

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Speaker 1: This discussion is what do you make of six minutes

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Speaker 1: giving him here time? So sixty minutes running the Pete Evans'

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Speaker 1: story past the pub test.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, passes.

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Speaker 3: Because if people want to watch dumb stuff, and let

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Speaker 3: them watch dumb stuff, you know, that's on them.

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Speaker 1: I think he has some interesting things to say. I

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Speaker 1: don't agree with everything he says, but I think he

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Speaker 1: looks at student's medicine and he has some very good points.

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Speaker 1: I don't think pharmaceuticals are always into desually not.

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Speaker 3: I think the inspeact of cooking, and I think the

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Speaker 3: steam's got through his head.

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Speaker 1: I honestly had no idea that Pete Evans was still

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Speaker 1: a thing like who cares what he has to stay?

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Speaker 2: He debunked a million times.

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Speaker 3: I really hope they didn't pay him a fortune for it.

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Speaker 2: Didn't have it in Peter Russell Clark stated it was

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Speaker 2: just where's the cheese?

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Speaker 1: And we thought that was perfectly normal.

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Speaker 2: It was reasonable.

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Speaker 3: Jonesie and Amanda The Morning Well at one point seven,

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Speaker 3: tell yeah,