1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Hello, Happy Tuesday, and welcome to the Daily os Hi everyone. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Today is the tewond of November. And to kick you 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: off with some COVID numbers. Yesterday in New South Wales 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: there were one hundred and thirty five new cases. In 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: Victoria there were four hundred and seventy one new cases 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: and in the Act just five new cases. 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: First up this morning. About four thousand health workers in 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 2: Queensland have been suspended after not complying with the state's 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: vaccine mandate that came into effect yesterday. Queens Lend's Health 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: Minister said ninety two percent of staff have been vaccinated, 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: but she also said the mandate was necessary to prepare 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: for an expected COVID surge once borders reopen. 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: After French President Emmanuel Macron accused Prime Minister Scott Morrison 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: of lying to him, Morrison has responded and he said 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: I don't agree with that. The disagreement is over Australia's 16 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: decision to scrap a ninety billion dollar submarine deal with 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: France in favor of nuclear powered vessels. With the help 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: of the US and the UK. 19 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: On the vaccination front, the third Pidnick's Goods administration has 20 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: announced it will formally recognize two more vaccines, covaxine and 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: BBIBP Corp v for overseas Australians who are seeking to 22 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: prove their vaccination status to enter the country. We saw 23 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: some really special scenes at airports in Sydney and Melbourne yesterday. 24 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: It was the highlight of my day seeing the reunions 25 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: of families and friends. 26 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 1: The good news is for the wordsmiths among us. Vax 27 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: has been chosen by the Oxford English Dictionary as the 28 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: word of the Year, with the dictionary saying the shorthand 29 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: for vaccine has quote injected itself into the bloodstream of 30 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: the English language. 31 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: Really have a. 32 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: Way with words, they do. Yesterday marked the end of 33 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: the public inquiry into Gladys Bariogiclian. She had been answering 34 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: questions for two days Friday, last week and yesterday, and 35 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: now both her and Daryl maguire have been released from 36 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: their i CAAC summons. So before we jump into what 37 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: has happened over the past couple of weeks, a quick 38 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: look forward. The Assistant Commissioner Ruth McCole will receive ridden 39 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: submissions from all legal representatives and she'll then prepare her 40 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: investigation report what we can expect is that it might 41 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: include a finding of corrupt conduct, recommendations that charges be laid, 42 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: or recommendations about how to prevent future corrupt conduct. Obviously, 43 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: it is too early to tell what will be enclosed 44 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: in that report. From there, the report will then be 45 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: made public and will tell us whether or not IQAC 46 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: believes that Gladysbury Jicalian breached public trust by having a 47 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: conflict of interest relating to some grant funding and also 48 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: in her failure to report Daryl maguire. If this is 49 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: all gibberish to you and you are new to this story, 50 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: Sam catch us up on why IKAK was investigating Gladysbury Jiclian. 51 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: So the thirty second summary here is that the corruption 52 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 2: watchdog is investigating if Baragiiclian breached public trust during her 53 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: five year secret relationship with former Wogga Wogga MP Daryl Mare, 54 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: and that relationship ended last year. More specifically, it's investigating 55 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 2: whether the relationship influenced Barajicklan's decisions to support multimillion dollar 56 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: grants promised to organizations in McGuire's electric So we've heard 57 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: a lot of phone tapped conversations between McGuire and Beerajiclian 58 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: throughout the hearing, where they discussed the allocation of funds 59 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: to McGuire's seat in Woggle Wogger and the questions being 60 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 2: put to Bearajicklan was basically, would you have done this 61 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 2: if you weren't in a personal relationship with McGuire? 62 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: If we zoom into what we learned yesterday. A key 63 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: part of the hearing centered around Beara Diicklian's former chief 64 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: of staff. Her name is Sarah Crookshank. Last week, Crookshank 65 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: revealed to Eykak that Gladysboro Jicklian had told her about 66 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: the secret relationship in twenty eighteen, but that she described 67 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: it in a historical nature, when in fact the relationship 68 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: did continue on until September last year, after Daryl maguire 69 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: had resigned from Parliament. When pressed on whether she had 70 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: lied to Crookshank by saying the relationship had ended, Gladysbury 71 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: Jiclian said that it is not her recollection that she 72 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: described it as a historical relationship. Crookshank's barrister, Hugh White, 73 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: did push back against this assertion and said that Gladysbury 74 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: Jiiclian was quote not being honest about what she had 75 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: told Crookshank, so Gladisbury Jicklan went on to say that 76 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: I can only reflect my recollection. I can't do any 77 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: better than that. I'm being honest on what I remembered. 78 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: I appreciate she has a different recollection. It was also 79 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: revealed that Crookshank, as chief of staff, advised Berajicklian not 80 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: to have anything further to do with McGuire and Verryjiiclian admitted, 81 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: and I quote, I did not take that bit of 82 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: advice obviously, Sam. What else did we hear about yesterday? 83 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: Another big moment that jumped out to me yesterday was 84 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: the discussions between McGuire and Berrjicklian over McGuire's advice to 85 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 2: Beragiclian that she should get a private phone after he 86 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: had been subpoenaed to appear before Aykak in twenty eighteen. 87 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: Okay subpoena. Run me through it. 88 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: Basically when Darren maguire was asked by Ikak to give 89 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 2: evidence and it was the first sniff that there is 90 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: a craption inquiry coming. McGuire also told Berrjicklin to download 91 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: the encrypted messaging service we Chat. To this point, Berrjiclin said, 92 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 2: quote she had no inclination to think that that was 93 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: because he had done anything wrong, adding I was clearly 94 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: not concerned because I didn't do any of those things. 95 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: She also said that even after Darren maguire had given 96 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: evidence to AKAC in twenty eighteen, she still didn't believe 97 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: that he had knowingly engaged in corrupt conduct. She said 98 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: that I assumed anything he was caught up in was 99 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: something that was unintentional and he wasn't aware of everything 100 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: going on around him. The former premier did have some 101 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: parting words after the IKAK inquiry wrapped up. Here's what 102 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: she said to media yesterday. 103 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: Obviously what's occurred to me is a difficult situation, but 104 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 3: I know many people do it tough in the community, 105 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: and now I intend to get on with my life 106 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: and I just again want to thank everybody for their support. 107 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 3: But my position hasn't changed. Every day that I've dealt 108 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 3: with the public, every day that I've made decisions has 109 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,679 Speaker 3: been in their best interests of the public, of the government, 110 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 3: of the community. It's been my honor and privileged to 111 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 3: serve the community in that way. 112 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: So, Sara, there was quite a big build up to 113 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 2: this Aikak hearing. We talked about it a lot on 114 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: the podcast. We've now come to the end of the 115 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: public part of it. What was the moment that stood 116 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: out to you. 117 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: I think that we were all shocked by a lot 118 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: of what we'd heard, mostly because the former premier had 119 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: been an extremely private person and this was a very 120 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: public airing of very personal affairs alongside allegations of breaching 121 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: public trusts. But the thing that really stuck with me 122 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: was thinking about what would have happened if we would 123 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: have had a federal eye CACK and what could have 124 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: played out at a federal level if there had been 125 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: a similar mechanism to what we saw in New South Wales. 126 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: It was very clear that the council assisting i CAAC 127 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: did not hold back, and I think, if anything, this 128 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: will renew calls for a federal eye CAACK of some description. 129 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: So I think it'll be really interesting in the lead 130 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: up to the next federal election what both major parties 131 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: take as an election promise in this area. 132 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: Until then, we wait for the Assistant Commissioner of AYKAK 133 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: to deliver her report it's a report that we're all 134 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: going to be able to read, and we'll be sure 135 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: to break down the findings in a podcast for you. 136 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining us on today's episode of 137 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: The Daily Os. It's the second of November and we 138 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: hope you have a fantastic day. If you have some time, 139 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: we'd love you to leave a review of this podcast. 140 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: It makes a massive difference to us and we'd really 141 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: appreciate it. Have a fantastic Tuesday.