1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: All right, well, how do you reckon? We went with 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: this one? Okay, it was was, it was okay. 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 2: I haven't listened for a little scrap we had at 4 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 2: the start. It's just like like a little married couple here. 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: You to disagree with me? 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 3: An envelope contains the music topic to discuss. 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: This five minutes on the clock to film, and there's 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: no time to prep. This is banter with Clezy and Lisa. 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: You've been handed the envelope, Lisa. 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 3: And I am opening it. 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: It's a large envelow. It is very big. 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 3: And the subject of this week's banter is Blondie. 13 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: Ooh, okay, five minutes time starts. 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: Now, well, it's funny this morning. We just played Blondie 15 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 3: a little while ago, and you Dine Claires did, in 16 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: fact say, now, that's one band I would have liked 17 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 3: to have seen. 18 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: Live, would have loved to have seen them live at 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: their peak, at their peak, at their peak. 20 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: But of course their peak was late seventies, and we 21 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: were but mere children, weren't even allowed to go to 22 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 3: the shop on our own for twenty cents worth of 23 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 3: mixed Lolly's, I'll go to a Blondie concert. 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: Well, you could go to the Worrik shops and get 25 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: some bollies. You in a closeted household like that. Oh, 26 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: I digress. 27 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting an argument over that, but anyway. 28 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 1: I know there's no argument. I thought it was funny. 29 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, no, I know exactly what you're saying. Parallel 30 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 2: Lines came out in ninety seventy eight. We were just 31 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: little munchkins at the time. But what a band. They 32 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: had it all going for them, didn't they. 33 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: So do you know much about Blondies very early days? 34 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 3: You know? I told you recently I watched the Sex 35 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 3: Pistols mini series on whichever one it was, I think 36 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: it's Disney, and absolutely loved the heck out of it 37 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: and learned about one of my favorites, Chrissy Hind. I 38 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: didn't realize how much involvement she had in the early 39 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: days of the punk scene in the seventies. Was Blondie 40 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: sort of aligned with that, but in the. 41 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: US more seen as a new wave kind of act. 42 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: I think, okay, she had that. 43 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously from the very early on, everyone went 44 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 2: this woman looks like a star, and. 45 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: I mean she was so hot. Yeah, and she could 46 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: act as well. 47 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: She was in quite a few movies, in a bit 48 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: of TV as well in the early days. But she 49 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: she had an association with well, a lot of New 50 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 2: York but she had an association with a lot of 51 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 2: the arty people around town. And also when you think 52 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: about her being one of the most photographed people in 53 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 2: rock history, she's up there with Stevin Nicks. 54 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: Really when you think about that, well, she was. 55 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: A novelty, you know. I mean, she was the female 56 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: lead singer of a band. Yeah, I was going to 57 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: say rock band, but I suppose it's a rock band. 58 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: Rock band. It was a rock chick. 59 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, when we played it's a rock band. She had 60 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 2: so much going on, and you know, her later career 61 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: we can get to later. But she had an association 62 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: with you know, Andy Warhole, and he loved beautiful Warhole. 63 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 3: I mean, he's had his musices, he. 64 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: Had a few musices. I've known his moment. He obviously 65 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: took lots of photos of the like. 66 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: She was very photogenic, absolutely, you know, whatever you sort 67 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 3: of thought of her looks, she had a great she 68 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 3: had great eyes, great hair, great she just had a 69 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: photogenic going on. 70 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: She also had a great band around a Clem Burke 71 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: was in the band and a guy called Christine who 72 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 2: was her partner in life, and she nursed him through. 73 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: We nearly lost him several years ago. She nursed him 74 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: through his ill health for many. 75 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: Years, her partner in life. 76 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 3: I have wondered about her, her romantic life. 77 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: I didn't know. 78 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: I didn't know what went on with Blondie. 79 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Christine got very sick. I'm not exactly quite private. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, 80 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: not really sure what happened to him, but he was 81 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: sick for a long time. She nursed him through and 82 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: he's still with us. 83 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: Now, okay. 84 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: And so they were band members, band mates. 85 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: Band mates absolutely. 86 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: And also when you think about the classic Blondie songs, 87 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: there was no real style to any of it. And 88 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: they talked about them being in new wave on new romantic, 89 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: new wave band more than anything in the States. But 90 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: the music was very different to the new romantics that 91 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: came in from England three or four years later. 92 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 3: But she definitely had style when it came to fashion. 93 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you also think about some of those early hits, 94 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: some of those hits, so really the first female rapper 95 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: in a Rocks in a pop song, first female rapper, 96 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: yeap eating cars and all the rest of it. Because 97 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: Rapture was one of those was seen as the first 98 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: female rap song and one of. 99 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: The really early rap singles because she did a rap 100 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: in it. 101 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't sound very much like what was coming 102 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: out in New York and the West Coast ten fifteen 103 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 2: year later. 104 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 3: I think she influenced a lot of women in the 105 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 3: music beers, not least all one Chrissy. Amphlet suggests that 106 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: there is a fair bit of trying to be like 107 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 3: Blondie and Chrissy in Chrissy's days on stage, although she 108 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: wasn't as she wasn't as classy. 109 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: As blond I never had a certain way about her 110 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 2: and she Chrissy. 111 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Chrissy had a certain way about her. 112 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: I also think with the Harry, I don't think she 113 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: would tolerate fools. Same same to a lot of you know, 114 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: like you mentioned Chrissy Hind even women who wouldn't tolerate 115 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 2: fools because they're surviving in a rock world. They're surviving 116 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 2: in a business which is so caught up and so 117 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: run by men, and for so many years run by 118 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: men for men. So women who were breaking down the 119 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: doors were now you can say that the language is corny, 120 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 2: but it's true. 121 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: They were doing. They were the ones who helped the 122 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: other sort of forde their way through. 123 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 3: When I think of Blondie, I have to remind my 124 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: son must have been I have to remind myself that 125 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 3: it is Deborah Harry. Yes, sometimes you kind of get 126 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: the it just becomes I mean, she is blonde, and 127 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 3: you think Blondie was the image. It's a bad and 128 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 3: I bet there was a lot of confusion back in 129 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 3: the day. You know our last you know, mister Tully. 130 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: Which one is stealing? And damn you know that kind 131 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: of stuff. 132 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: Yes, and then we had her later hits when her 133 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: solo career, you know, I want that man and the 134 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 2: like fans. The time is over that man. Bloody six 135 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: a FM Clezi and Lisa