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Speaker 2: Good morning, and welcome to the Daily os. It's Friday,

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Speaker 2: the twenty fourth of February. I'm Sam, I'm Billy. Nice

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Speaker 2: to have you on, Billy. It's lovely of you to

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Speaker 2: join us today.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: It's a big one today we're going to be talking

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Speaker 2: about the one year anniversary of Russia invading Ukraine.

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Speaker 3: Good evening.

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Speaker 2: The fate of Ukraine appears to be reaching crisis points.

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Speaker 2: President Vladimir Putin has finally made his.

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Speaker 4: Move or has returned to Europe in a full scale

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Speaker 4: invasion of Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: The war has lasted longer than many expected, and the

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Speaker 2: end is not yet in sight. So what's happened so far,

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Speaker 2: what's likely to happen next, and how has the war

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Speaker 2: changed the world. We'll let you know. In the dictive

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Speaker 2: for First Billy, let's kick off with some headlines what's

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Speaker 2: making news.

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Speaker 3: The latest dart from the Australian Bureau of Statistics, also

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Speaker 3: known as the ABS, has found that the national gender

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Speaker 3: pay gap is at thirteen point three percent. That's the

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Speaker 3: lowest gender pay gap that's ever been recorded in Australia.

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Speaker 3: The ABS found that the average full time earnings for

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Speaker 3: Australian women were about one six hundred and fifty four

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Speaker 2: Queensland is one step closer to criminalizing coercive control as

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Speaker 2: a standalone offense. It comes as legislation passed Parliament this

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Speaker 2: week to broaden the definition of domestic violence to include

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Speaker 2: behavior that occurs over time.

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Speaker 3: Defense Minister Richard Marles has said Australia could begin joint

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Speaker 3: patrols of the South China Sea with the Philippines in

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Speaker 3: an effort to counter Chinese influence in the region. In

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Speaker 3: a press conference with the Philippines, Secretary of National Defense

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Speaker 3: Miles said they are also looking at conducting military exercises

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Speaker 3: together and will continue efforts to deepen the bilateral relationship

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Speaker 3: and today's good news. That's what you always say.

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Speaker 2: And today's good news. For the first time in over

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Speaker 2: a decade, over seventy percent of Queensland is no longer

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Speaker 2: at a risk of drought. This is big news and

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Speaker 2: according to the Agricultural, Industry, Development and Fisheries Minister Mark Ferner,

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Speaker 2: it's great news for primary producers.

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Speaker 3: So, Sam, as you said, it is today the one

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Speaker 3: year anniversary of when Russia invaded Ukraine. To me, it

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Speaker 3: feels like it's been a lot longer than one year ago.

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Speaker 3: So much has happened, and I think as the war

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Speaker 3: has gone on it's been easy to lose context and

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Speaker 3: to this point? So can we go back to the basics.

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Speaker 3: What do we need to know about why this war started?

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a whole history to try and get your

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Speaker 2: First geography, Ukraine shares a border with Russia and it

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Speaker 2: of the twentieth century. Now let's talk history. Like many

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Speaker 2: of those. Russia, on the other hand, has been intimidated

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Speaker 2: But the invasion we saw on this day last year

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Speaker 2: and Russia. Russia invaded a Ukrainian territory called Crimea, and

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Speaker 3: Putin rules in Crimea now, claiming he is defending ethnic

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Speaker 5: NATO and Russia are both mobilizing for a potential war.

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Speaker 1: Several countries have gone into a panic mote, pulling out

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I just want to recap where we are.

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Speaker 3: So Ukraine was part of the Russian led Soviet Union,

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Speaker 3: So that's what led to this. Can you remind me

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Speaker 2: Well, I remember, we started getting reports in December twenty

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Speaker 2: Putin declared what he called a special military operation in Ukraine.

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Speaker 4: Or Russian military operation, it would appear, is now underway.

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Speaker 1: The distinct sound of explosions on the horizon. Here in Kiev.

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Speaker 2: We've heard at least force what appeared to be strikes

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Speaker 2: fight persecution of who Putin describes as this group of

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Speaker 3: I remember when Prudin was saying his speech about this

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Speaker 3: just war. He made so many accusations. There was also

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Speaker 3: something like he wanted to denazify Ukraine, without any evidence

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Speaker 3: that there were Nazis in Ukraine. But what I also

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Speaker 3: remember is that we all thought Ukraine was at an

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Speaker 3: they have more troops. They also have more advanced weaponry.

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Speaker 2: In hindsight, You're totally right, and a lot of experts

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Speaker 2: particularly when supported by the West. Now, Ukraine's resistance, with

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Speaker 2: instead of trying to take over the whole country with

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Speaker 2: some assaults on the capital of Kiev. There's now widely

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Speaker 2: eight thousand civilian deaths and millions have fled the country.

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Speaker 3: And just for anyone whose geography is as bad as mine,

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Speaker 3: some when you're talking about Russia trying to narrow its

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Speaker 3: is closest to Russia, right just over the border. And

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Speaker 3: now you talked about the ways that the West has

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Speaker 2: Well, it's been led by the US. They've really made

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Speaker 2: but also on individual Russian business people all around the world.

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Speaker 2: In the past year, it's been joined by Australia, Canada,

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Speaker 2: Other countries have been a little more reluctant to directly

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you've given a lot of context. Big question,

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. I really can't see an imminent

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Speaker 2: There's no sign also of any sort of negotiated piece

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Speaker 2: and Russia have shown no sign of abandoning its objectives

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Speaker 3: Okay, so a negotiated piece between Ukraine and Russia seems unlikely.

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Speaker 3: What is likely to happen next.

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Speaker 2: Well, the fears are that the war could spread to

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Speaker 2: In terms of the West's response, there's so far been

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Speaker 2: particularly important to US President Joe Biden, who has previously

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Speaker 3: We'll be back right after this, so, Sam, we started

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Speaker 3: this discussion by talking about how today marks the one

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Speaker 3: the lead up to this anniversary, both US President Joe

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Speaker 3: Can you explain what we heard in those speeches.

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Speaker 2: It's been a week full of symbolism, Billy, and both

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Speaker 2: we'll whether the Russians side there. We saw Vladimir Putin

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Speaker 5: Every one of us has a great responsibility in order

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Speaker 2: This is a translation of Putin's speech, which aired on

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Speaker 2: remaining arms agreement between Russia and the US.

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Speaker 5: Russia has to ensure the readiness of the Russian nuclear potential.

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Speaker 2: Now on the other side of the conflicts, US President

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden made a surprise visit to Ukraine earlier in

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Speaker 2: the week before giving his own address in nearby Poland.

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Speaker 4: When Russia invaded, it wasn't just Ukraine being tested. The

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Speaker 4: whole world faced a test for the ages.

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Speaker 2: There was a clear message of unity and resistance during

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Speaker 2: Biden's speech.

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Speaker 4: One year under this war. Pot no longer doubts the

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Speaker 4: strength of our coalition, but he still doubts our conviction.

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Speaker 4: He doubts our stain power, He doubts our continued support

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Speaker 4: for Ukraine. He doubts whether NATO can remain unified. But

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Speaker 4: there should be no doubt. Our support for Crane will

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Speaker 4: not waiver, NATO will not be divided, and we will

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Speaker 4: not tire.

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