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Speaker 1: Three sixty with Katie Wolf, thanks to Joyce Main, Dowin

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Speaker 1: homes On and Stuart Highway Beerrimer.

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Speaker 2: Well, as we know, the federal budget was handed down

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Speaker 2: overnight and I guess there's you know, there is a

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Speaker 2: lot to take in. There always is when you talk

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Speaker 2: about these budgets and trying to work out what's in

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Speaker 2: it for us, what's in it for the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 2: We did speak to the to the Federal Minister for Finance,

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Speaker 2: Simon Birmingham a little bit earlier this morning and he

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Speaker 2: art laid what territorians can expect. But joining me on

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Speaker 2: the line right now is the federal member for Solomon,

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Speaker 2: the Labor Member for Solomon, Luke Gosling. Good morning to you, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Morning Katie Luke.

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Speaker 2: What did you make of last night's budget?

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Speaker 1: Katie? There's been a lot of commentary about it. It's

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Speaker 1: being a big spending budget. But I guess the thing

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Speaker 1: that sort of outside of politics has seen over eight

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Speaker 1: years of this current government is that, you know, they've

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Speaker 1: made a lot of announcements, but then we find that

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Speaker 1: there's big underspends and they don't actually spend what they're

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Speaker 1: committed to spending. So whilst I welcome parts of the budget,

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Speaker 1: we're still waiting to see the funding for kak who

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Speaker 1: actually eventuate onto the ground, And I was really unhappy

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Speaker 1: to see that no money in there for the veterans

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Speaker 1: well being Senator. They promised that the last election, so

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Speaker 1: that project sort of flounders on. And when it comes

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Speaker 1: to infrastructure announcements, there was a cut in infrastructure funding

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Speaker 1: at the time where we need to be building. So

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Speaker 1: I guess our point of view is that can you

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Speaker 1: really trust what they've announced and will it ever get

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Speaker 1: under the ground or is it just a big spending

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Speaker 1: budget in the lead up to a federal election. We'll see.

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Speaker 2: Well, I had wandered the same thing about kakado but

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Speaker 2: then when I went back and looked, I did notice

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Speaker 2: that that money was actually in the budget from last year.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, what were you expecting or what were

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Speaker 2: you hoping for when it comes to Kakadoo, Like.

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Speaker 1: Everyone in the tourism business and the traditional owners out

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Speaker 1: there and everyone who's been looking at the degradation of

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Speaker 1: Kakadu over theears, we're expecting some work to actually be

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Speaker 1: done on the ground. You go out there and it's

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Speaker 1: run down. So I guess my point is they've made

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Speaker 1: an announcement about money in a federal election in twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen and that hasn't eventually aid onto action on the ground.

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Speaker 1: And we've got the tourism industry saying well, because nothing's

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Speaker 1: been done. They're actually saying we need more funding because

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Speaker 1: it's more rundown than it was. And we've got this

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Speaker 1: really magic opportunity at the moment with no international tourism

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Speaker 1: to really capture the hearts of Australians and get them

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Speaker 1: back to Kakadu, but nothing's been done, which is really disappointing.

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Speaker 2: Yes, this is where I'm struggling to work out what

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Speaker 2: the goal is with Kakadoo at the moment, because you know,

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Speaker 2: you're right, as I said, there is that money that's

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Speaker 2: there initially, and you're right, there is definitely or there

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Speaker 2: was a call even from Glenn Hingley a little bit

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Speaker 2: earlier in the week for more operational funding on the

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Speaker 2: ground for Kagado. But with that money that had previously

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Speaker 2: been earmarked, who's responsible then for making sure that that

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Speaker 2: sort of gets rolled out in the Northern Territory And

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Speaker 2: what is the hold up?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd love to know Katie what the hold up is,

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Speaker 1: because we've got a situation where there was commitments around

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Speaker 1: roads being sealed, there's commitments around an upgrade of facilities

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Speaker 1: and a new welcoming center, even just little things like

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Speaker 1: public toilets and the signings out there, little things like

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Speaker 1: that that make a big difference. I suppose the amenities

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Speaker 1: go out there for the tourists to have the best

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Speaker 1: possible experience. I mean, there's been next to nothing done,

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Speaker 1: and National Parks seem to be more interested in pick

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Speaker 1: and fights with the traditional owners about sacred sites and

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Speaker 1: we might see gunlom clothes. So across the board, we've

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Speaker 1: seen I think a mishandling of kakado by the federal

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Speaker 1: government and parks. And it's just such an important icon

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Speaker 1: for us to have looking a million bucks, and I

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Speaker 1: just expected to see more action by now. And obviously

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Speaker 1: Glenn Henley and others are doing the best that they

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Speaker 1: can to ensure that there is some action. But I fam.

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Speaker 2: I definitely take your point around Kakadoo. I guess the

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Speaker 2: other side of it, there's no denying that this time

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Speaker 2: round with the budget, there seems to be you know,

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Speaker 2: a lord in it. When you talk about those tax cuts,

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Speaker 2: we have had a massive, a massive amount earmarked for

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Speaker 2: us here in the Northern Territory five billion as I

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Speaker 2: understand it, next financial year when it comes to that

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Speaker 2: infrastructure and some of those highways, and when we talk.

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Speaker 1: About it saying that the year's cadie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But then it's up to the territory government in

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Speaker 2: terms of actually delivering that work on the ground when

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Speaker 2: it comes to that infrastructure for our roads, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a partnership and obviously the Anti government's

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Speaker 1: doing the best they can with the federal government and

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Speaker 1: have have welcomed this budget. When I look at this

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Speaker 1: budget and when we look at the bigger picture, the

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Speaker 1: roads funding is a good example. The roads funding is

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Speaker 1: always in the budget, but it's out on the never

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Speaker 1: and ever when it comes to the actual spend hitting

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Speaker 1: the ground. So yeah, I would like I just want

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Speaker 1: to see them actually do what they say they're going

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Speaker 1: to do when it comes to these infrastructure projects. And overall,

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Speaker 1: there was a three billion dollar cut in the infrastructure

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Speaker 1: budget that sort of gets missed in amongst the big announcements.

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Speaker 1: But when it comes to age care, for example, there's

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Speaker 1: a big dollar figure there, but it's still not covering

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Speaker 1: the recommendations out of the Royal Commission, and that is

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Speaker 1: also and that's also a concern because what Territorians know

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Speaker 1: is that the cost of everything's going up. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think as a good example, but their wages aren't going up,

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Speaker 1: and I just can't see much in this budget that

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Speaker 1: focuses on getting more Territorians into permanent, well paid jobs

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Speaker 1: so that they can provide for their families time.

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Speaker 2: We also know there has been a five hundred an

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Speaker 2: additional five hundred million for us in the territory for

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Speaker 2: the GST for this financial year. The Chief Minister, also

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Speaker 2: Minister Paul Kirby and others have been out this morning,

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Speaker 2: you know, saying that this is a good budget for

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Speaker 2: the territory. How come you feel differently to them?

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Speaker 1: No, obviously I like thent GUM and I welcome that

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Speaker 1: extra GST F I mean, but it's sort of making

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Speaker 1: up from the previous cut, which we're pretty damaging to

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Speaker 1: our bottom line. So we always welcome a fair go,

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Speaker 1: but we obviously reserve the right to say when commitments

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Speaker 1: haven't been met, and that's part of my job to

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Speaker 1: keep the government to account. They're committed to a five

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Speaker 1: million dollar Veterans Well Being Center, and that money is

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Speaker 1: not in the budget and we're not seeing that eventuate

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Speaker 1: on the ground. So part of this budget is good

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Speaker 1: for the territory, and I join with the Chief Minister

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Speaker 1: in welcoming that extra GST for example. But let's not

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Speaker 1: forget that we've copped it in the past. Moving forward,

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Speaker 1: I just hope that some of their announcements actually eventuate

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Speaker 1: onto the ground and that's my job to continue to

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Speaker 1: push them and make sure that they do it.

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Speaker 2: Most certainly is and Luke Gosling, we always appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for having a chat with us.

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Speaker 2: And does Elbow hand down his budget? Replies it tonight

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Speaker 2: or tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: That's tomorrow night. So yep, we've been I've been working

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Speaker 1: hard with his team to get some territory love in there.

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Speaker 1: But we'll see. But I think it will show a

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Speaker 1: different vision for the future.

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Speaker 2: Well let us know and and let us know what

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Speaker 2: is in it for the territory. And Elbow's reply, Luke

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Speaker 2: Gosling always good to catch up. Thank you mate,