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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda's.

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Speaker 2: Naomi Osaka, who last year made thirty seven million dollars,

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Speaker 2: more than any female athlete. She's a tennis player, Okay,

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Speaker 2: she don't know it. Wow. She is about to compete

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Speaker 2: at Jolin Garros, the French Open, and she has said

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Speaker 2: that she will not be talking to reporters. She will

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Speaker 2: not do any postgame interviews, postmatch chats, any of that

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Speaker 2: sort of thing. And she says, I will be fined

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Speaker 2: for this, but I would like them to donate that

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Speaker 2: money to mental health charities. It's interesting her point of view.

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Speaker 2: She said, I'm writing this to say I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to do any press during Roland Garris. I've often felt

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Speaker 2: that people have no regard for athletes mental health, and

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Speaker 2: this rings true when I see a press conference or

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Speaker 2: partaking one. We're often sat there and asked questions that

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Speaker 2: we've been asked multiple times before, or asked questions that

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Speaker 2: bring doubt into our minds. I'm not going to subject

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Speaker 2: myself to people who doubt me, she said. I've watched

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Speaker 2: many clips of athletes breaking down after a loss in

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Speaker 2: the press room, and I know that you have as well.

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Speaker 2: I believe the whole situation is kicking a person while

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Speaker 2: they're down. I don't understand the reason behind it. Me

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Speaker 2: not doing press is nothing personal to the tournament. However,

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Speaker 2: if the organizations think that they can just keep saying

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Speaker 2: do press or you're going to be fined and continue

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Speaker 2: to ignore the mental health of the athletes that are

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Speaker 2: the centerpiece of the cooperation, I've got to laugh. Anyway.

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Speaker 2: I hope the considerable amount that I get fined for

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Speaker 2: this will go towards a mental health channel.

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Speaker 1: I can I agree with them. I've never understood when

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Speaker 1: a footy player is walking off the field and they

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Speaker 1: start ask peppering them with questions. Sure, when they win,

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Speaker 1: that's great, but when you lose, so what happened? As

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Speaker 1: you look at in life, if you lose something you're

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Speaker 1: at work, Say you're a mechanic and you're putting a

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Speaker 1: stardo matter in a car and you strip ant or something.

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Speaker 1: There's not someone standing there saying, mate, say what happened

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Speaker 1: you stripped that nut? Did you go too hard on

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Speaker 1: the talk? You use the wrong span of what went

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Speaker 1: wrong there? You know, maybe the boss might say that

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Speaker 1: to you. But this is what people would say public humiliation.

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Speaker 2: But what people would say is this is a public

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Speaker 2: sport and people liking to watch her play is what

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Speaker 2: brings in the big feet.

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Speaker 1: Do you like seeing or hearing from a losing person

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Speaker 1: as to what went wrong? Because I don't really. Well,

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Speaker 1: let me just say, it's almost like we just accepted.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? It's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: we just accept it. Well.

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Speaker 2: There the other side to this, it's not always just

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Speaker 2: peppering them with questions when they're wrong. I saw a

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Speaker 2: response to this from an American sports journo who said

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Speaker 2: that this has been the changing face of athletes. It

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Speaker 2: used to be that they'd worked with journalists and sports

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Speaker 2: reporters because the public got to know them, and that

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Speaker 2: suited the athlete. It got people interested in the event

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Speaker 2: that they were performing in. All their sponsors were happy,

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Speaker 2: the event managers were happy, and the athletes got their

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Speaker 2: profile that way. Now it seems that the athletes, this

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Speaker 2: is according to this sports journo, are seeing themselves as entertainers,

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Speaker 2: like musicians or movie stars. Refusing press is an inevitable

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Speaker 2: side of that. Once it's over, once that game is over,

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Speaker 2: they've performed, They've fulfilled their public obligation, so they're saying

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Speaker 2: here that these famous athletes are being taught that there's

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Speaker 2: no value, no public good in public journalism, so that

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Speaker 2: apparently outside of press conferences, Lebron only appears on platforms

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Speaker 2: he controls. They like to control them. Today's public figures

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Speaker 2: want to control the answers and the questions, and that's

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Speaker 2: what social media lets them do. They can manage how

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Speaker 2: they are depicted. But where does that leave sports journals?

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Speaker 2: Where does that leave the public in wanting some insight

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Speaker 2: into well, how did you play today? How do you

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Speaker 2: feel about that? Into the humanity of the person, because

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Speaker 2: they'll only put the portrait of themselves that they want.

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Speaker 2: She's quite right in saying I have mental health. You know,

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Speaker 2: think of my mental health when you're poking a hole

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Speaker 2: in the game I've played. But that might be part

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Speaker 2: of the gig. That's what you pay for, is to

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Speaker 2: sit there and be interviewed at the end of your match.

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Speaker 1: Well else, So we're going to get our sporting cliches from.

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Speaker 2: And where are we going to get Daniel Ricardo saying

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Speaker 2: I'd like to eat a podium it's the take and

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Speaker 2: keep it in his mouth for some time.

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Speaker 1: He enjoyed the taste of the podium interesting, isn't it. Indeed,

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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda's gamination