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Speaker 1: Mix one O four point nine dot comtu for all

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Speaker 1: the latest news and information. Now three sixty with Katie Wolf.

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Speaker 1: Everyone is listening Mix one oh four point nine one hundred.

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Speaker 2: Percent and we have been discussing the changes out at

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Speaker 2: the Center for National Resilience and joining us on the

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Speaker 2: line right now from the AMA, the Australian Medical Association's

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Speaker 2: Northern Territory branch, Doctor Robert Parker, Good morning, doctor Parker.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Katie.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time this morning and

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Speaker 2: thanks for staying on hold for us. Doctor. Obviously, we

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Speaker 2: know that this announcement about the National Critical Care and

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Speaker 2: Trauma Response Center no longer managing the international arrivals as

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Speaker 2: we see the increase of repatriated Aussie's well from May

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Speaker 2: I believe this year. Are you concerned about the fact

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Speaker 2: that it seems as though the model is going to

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Speaker 2: be changing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I suppose I have got concerns, Katie. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the National Trauma Center has actually said have a very

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Speaker 3: high standard management and obviously they keep potentially lower rist populations,

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Speaker 3: which are the Australian people, away from the high risk populations.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I presume they'll pass on their training and

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Speaker 3: they'll be trainers within the new starting but mixing higher

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Speaker 3: risk and lawyers given with the vaccine, I think is

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Speaker 3: potentially problematic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the concern that I you know, I'd sort

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Speaker 2: of tried to raise a bit earlier with the Health

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Speaker 2: Minister and she did say that, you know, they are

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Speaker 2: going to be training the new staff that come on board,

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Speaker 2: but then we're also talking about four hundred additional staff

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Speaker 2: in various different roles.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be you.

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Speaker 2: Know, a lot of training to begin with, but it's

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Speaker 2: also going to be quite difficult I would suspect to

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Speaker 2: recruit that volume of staff.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's correct. The problem I think the NT government

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Speaker 3: recruitment praises are incredibly comvassome, and when we've currently got

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Speaker 3: knight in vacancies and mental health nurses and the problem

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Speaker 3: is if you go through award processes and recruitments, quite

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Speaker 3: often by the time you've gone to all the regulation

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Speaker 3: recruit minissue, the staff has gone somewhere else and it's

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Speaker 3: tired of waiting to be given the go ahead. So

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Speaker 3: there's that process and then you potentially if you can't

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Speaker 3: recruit people through award processes, then you've actually got to

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Speaker 3: do it through local process, we can paid a very

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Speaker 3: high lly rate and that may actually attract the number

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Speaker 3: of staff away from the regular health system because they're

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Speaker 3: getting a better deal with the quarantine center.

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Speaker 2: Are we setting ourselves up to fail here, doctor Parker?

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Speaker 3: Well, again, we've got a very limited number of local

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Speaker 3: staff and they're already significant shortages in health services around Australia,

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Speaker 3: particularly nursing. So having this view that we're be going

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Speaker 3: to be able to attract the whole bunch of people,

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Speaker 3: potentially four to five hundred staff to the quarantine facility,

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Speaker 3: I think is quite heroic or optimistics for the best

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Speaker 3: word of discretion.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, and I know that you know,

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Speaker 2: I'd said to the Minister. Realistically, if we're trying to

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Speaker 2: attra staff here now for the Center for National Resilience,

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Speaker 2: but we're changing the way in which it's being run.

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Speaker 2: My understanding from health professionals that I've spoken to is

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Speaker 2: that it's really very attractive to work for the National

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Speaker 2: Critical Care and Trauma Response Center because you're able to

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Speaker 2: gain skills that maybe you wouldn't gain, you know, working

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Speaker 2: in a hospital somewhere else. And I just wonder whether

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Speaker 2: it's you know, whether we're sort of by changing that management,

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Speaker 2: not only is it going to see potentially and increased risk,

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Speaker 2: but it's also going to make it a bit harder

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Speaker 2: to recruit people here because really what makes that center

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Speaker 2: much difference from working at a medi hotel exactly.

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Speaker 3: I can't really see that apart from the money, unless

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Speaker 3: it is a really significant attraction benefit, you know, in

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Speaker 3: terms of wages, accommodation, whatever, whatever I can to earn

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Speaker 3: a whole bunch of money really quickly, I can't really

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Speaker 3: see what the attraction.

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Speaker 2: Is, doctor Parker. Do you think that this could potentially

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Speaker 2: also have an impact on our hospitals given the fact that,

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Speaker 2: you know, the Minister has said that there may be

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Speaker 2: some staff who choose to do a stint at the

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Speaker 2: Center for National Resilience that are you know, full time

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Speaker 2: based at the Royal Darwin Hospital for example. Could it

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Speaker 2: have an impact more broadly on, you know, on our

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Speaker 2: other facilities.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think so potentially. They said, we've got in

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Speaker 3: mental health of the way, we've got nineteen ursing mental

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Speaker 3: health nursing positions, you know, so we've already significantly understaffed

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Speaker 3: in that area. I'm not sure about the rest of

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Speaker 3: the hospital, but potentially the start for getting much better

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Speaker 3: pay for less of work, less shift, less ours. Why

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Speaker 3: not grab the money and run well.

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Speaker 2: Dr Robert Parker, I always appreciate your time. It certainly

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Speaker 2: sounds as though we have got some concerns in this space.

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Speaker 2: I hope that that you know that it does go

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Speaker 2: much more smoothly than what you know what potentially it could.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I just that does seem to be that

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Speaker 2: we're really expecting a lot and I'm just not sure

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Speaker 2: whether we're going to be able to get there by

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Speaker 2: may Well.

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Speaker 3: The other concern, Katie is you know, obviously the mixing

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Speaker 3: of two populations currently, and we've got wills with low

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Speaker 3: risk Australian populations, we've got potentially high risk overseas populations,

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Speaker 3: and even with the vaccine, and I've still got concerns

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Speaker 3: about mixing those two in a quarantine situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had wondered that because I went through the

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Speaker 2: numbers a little bit earlier. We've had sixty seven positive

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Speaker 2: COVID nineteen cases have been reported from those international repatriations.

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Speaker 2: So there's no doubt that the international repatriations are bringing

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Speaker 2: a greater risk. And like you said, then you know.

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Speaker 2: I guess you just worry that with the changing of

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Speaker 2: the way in which it's all being managed, that it's

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Speaker 2: going to put the territory more broadly at a greater risk.

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Speaker 3: That'd be my concern too, Katie.

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Speaker 2: Well, doctor Robert Parker, it's always good to speak to you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for your.

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Speaker 3: Time, my pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. That's the AMA president for here in the

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Speaker 2: Northern Territory, Doctor Robert Parker,