1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Mix one O four point nine dot com for all 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: the latest news and information. Now three sixty with Katie Wolf. 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Everyone is listening. Mix one oh four point nine one 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: hundred percent ant. 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: Now joining me in the studio from the Northern Territory 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 2: Police Commander of Darwin and Road Policing, Matt HOLLANDB. 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 3: Good morning to you. 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 4: Good morning Katie, and good morning to your listeners. 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: Now, firstly, Commander, can I just ask we know that 10 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: just before eight pm last night, two males allegedly entered 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: the sexy Land store in Stuart Park, one of them 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: armed with a machete. As I understand it, they threatened 13 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 2: the female staff member. 14 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: Where are things at with this incident? 15 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, Katie, I can confirm that we are investigating an 16 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 4: incident of that nature. I just got to be a 17 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 4: little bit careful because we have a fourteen year old 18 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 4: youth in custody at the moment. But we will allege that, yes, 19 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 4: they did enter the Sexy Land with a weapon. We'll 20 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 4: also investigating an incident that happened shortly before they with 21 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 4: what we will alleges the same two people. 22 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: Okay, so it was beforehand the alleged car jacking. 23 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's our understanding. So they happened in a very 24 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 4: close space of time, close period of time. Police responded 25 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 4: really quickly and apprehended the fourteen year old, and we're 26 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 4: still searching for another person in relation to the both incidents. 27 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: Can I just ask, are the victims in these cases, 28 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: the people that were obviously working at sexy Land and 29 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: also the victim inside that car, are they okay? 30 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 3: From what you can gather, from what. 31 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 4: I can gather physically, they're okay, but obviously it'll be 32 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 4: a traumatizing experience. So you know, our thoughts are with 33 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 4: them to they are victims, and we hope that they 34 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 4: make a quick recovery. 35 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: Now, Matt, can I just ask how quickly were the 36 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: police able to apprehend that fourteen year old? 37 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 4: Look, it was within a very very short space of time. 38 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 4: I won't say minutes, but within a short space of time. 39 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 4: So very quick response and very quick apprehension of that individual. 40 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 4: Founder and obviously there's a bit more work to do. 41 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: Yet, So still searching for the second alleged defender. If 42 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: there is anybody out there listening, if they've got any information, 43 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 2: get in contact with the police. 44 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 4: Look, please do if you have any information about the incident. 45 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 4: We think we know the identity of the suspect, but 46 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 4: if anyone does have any further information, please contact the police. 47 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: So by the sounds of things and tell me if 48 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: you can't say, but it does sound as though they 49 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: were known to the police. 50 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 4: Look, I can't go that far. What I will say 51 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 4: is we do have a fourteen year old in custody 52 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 4: at the moment in relation to that incident. 53 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: All right, Commander, can we go through the latest crime stats? 54 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 2: I do want to take a closer look at these, 55 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 2: But before we do, can I ask what period of 56 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: time are these crime stats for? Because I feel like 57 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: sometimes that gets a little bit confused. 58 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, So these crime stats are for the last 59 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 4: twelve months to the end of February compared to the 60 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 4: twelve months before that. So these current stats include all 61 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 4: of the crimes reported to the police in the last. 62 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 3: Twelve months, so really during that lockdown period. 63 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. So look, if you look at the incredible low 64 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 4: unlawful entry rates, that includes the six month period of 65 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: last year where we had record lows. So they are 66 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 4: still captured in the last twelve month figures starting next 67 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 4: month and the month after some of those months will 68 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 4: start sliding back into the year before figures. But what 69 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 4: I can say is, and you know, bearing in mind 70 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 4: these we've been using these stats for fifteen ic years, 71 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 4: they're not really the ones we use for policing purposes. 72 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 4: So we used daily, weekly, monthly, as well as longer 73 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 4: term trends. But what I can say is, other than 74 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 4: November last year in the Greater Darwin area which includes 75 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 4: Dale and Casirin and Parmeston, other than November, all of 76 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 4: the months were lower than the previous months. But just 77 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 4: record low six months is what will be starting to 78 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 4: benchmark against in the not too distant future. 79 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: So really, I guess reading between the lines, we could 80 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: anticipate that we're going to see some an upward trend 81 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: with those crime stats, given the fact that we're now 82 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: going to be sort of from this point on comparing 83 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 2: to a COVID year. 84 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, statistically it may appear to be an upward trend, 85 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 4: but our job is to is to know crime prevention 86 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 4: preventative measures, act quickly to prevent crime, and if it 87 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 4: does occur, to respond really quickly. 88 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, because some of those I guess some of those 89 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: statistics may be a bit of a surprise to people, 90 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: some of them will not be. But alcohol related assaults 91 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 2: across the Northern Territory jump to staggering twenty eight percent, 92 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: while domestic violence related as one jumped twenty six percent. 93 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 2: I mean, some of those figures are quite staggering. But 94 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 2: what are police doing to try and work on those stats? 95 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 4: Firstly, Yeah, look, it's as I say, it's a it's 96 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 4: a twelve month trend. Yeah, and you know, over the 97 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 4: last twelve months we've seen some things that I don't 98 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 4: think we'll ever see again end of the future with 99 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 4: you know, lockdown's boarder control points, biosecurity control points, repatration 100 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 4: of vulnerable people, job keeper job seeking, stimulus payments, alcohol 101 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 4: prevented measures, no tourist season that you know, it just 102 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 4: the list goes on and on and on. But having 103 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 4: said that, yes, assaults and particularly alcohol related and domestic 104 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 4: violence related assaults are trending upwards in Darwin, Parmerstan is 105 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 4: probably the worst of the lot. 106 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: What do you reckon the cause of that is? 107 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 4: Look, I think the you know, there has been more 108 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 4: money available. Yeah, and after the lockdowns there was a 109 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 4: resurgence of people coming to Darwin from regional areas, and yeah, look, 110 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 4: alcohol has played a key role in it, and you'll 111 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 4: be aware of, you know, some of our alcohol preventative 112 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 4: measures that that have occurred over that period of time. 113 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 4: But there's still a lot more work to be done 114 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 4: in that space. 115 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so are you looking at maybe doing some 116 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: additional things in that alcohol space to try and curb that. 117 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 4: Well, it is a causal factor, so we have to 118 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 4: look at it. And you know, in terms of victims, 119 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 4: we're looking at repeat victims, repeat offenders, and you know, 120 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 4: trying to will prevent assaults and prevent people from being hurt. So, yeah, 121 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 4: very disturbing and obviously a lot more work. 122 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: To be done, absolutely, and I guess it's one of 123 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: those things that you're always working on when you when 124 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: you talk about assaults, and certainly when you talk about 125 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: alcohol related assaults. Can I ask as well, I know 126 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: one of the things that we talk about quite a 127 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: bit on this show is house breakings and commercial breakings. 128 00:06:58,480 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: As well as vehicle theft. 129 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 2: We have seen a massive decrease by those by the 130 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 2: standard of those statistics. But from what I can gather 131 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: from what you're saying to me at the moment that 132 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: police you know, you look at things more so in 133 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: real time rather than these stats from sort of twelve 134 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: months ago, because you've got to keep up with what's 135 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: happening right now. 136 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, I mean the these you know, we need 137 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 4: to know what the trends are, but we also need 138 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 4: to deal with the hero and now as well. And 139 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 4: in terms of the here and now, you'll be aware 140 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 4: of our recent Casuarina operation that was a quick response 141 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 4: to an identified issue. The start of the issue was 142 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 4: a series of shopliftings by youth of from bottle shops 143 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 4: and they all happen in a very short space of time, 144 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 4: so we needed to act and act act quickly, and 145 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 4: you know, we discovered some other issues out of it, 146 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 4: like anti social behavior and the Casurina era. And that 147 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 4: operation has been going for just under two weeks. Technically 148 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 4: it wrapped up yesterday, but we'll review on reassess on 149 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 4: where we're going to go. 150 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: And you've got some pretty good, pretty good numbers in 151 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: terms of that operation as well, didn't you. 152 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely. I think a media release will come out 153 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 4: later today on some firm numbers. But it highlighted an issue. 154 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 4: We reacted quickly and we put a put a stop 155 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 4: to it before it got out of control. 156 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: Can I ask I know that there again, there'll be 157 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: some people listening thinking, well, you know, these record low 158 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 2: commercial breakings and home breakings, it sort of doesn't resonate 159 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: with the community right now when you've got people still 160 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: being broken into. 161 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 3: What would you say to those listeners? 162 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thoroughly agree. Look that crime is not at 163 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 4: the same record low levels as it was mid last year, 164 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 4: but it is lower than it was on a month 165 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 4: by month basis from last year. But you know, people 166 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 4: are a lot more socially aware these days. You know, 167 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 4: crime is played out in the social media, it's played 168 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 4: out in the media, and one crime that's heavily publicized 169 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 4: does influence people's perceptions. So you know, there is technically 170 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 4: less property crime, but that doesn't necessarily make people feel 171 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 4: better about it. 172 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: So we have got a message from one of our 173 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 2: listeners asking if there is an attempted break in, what 174 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: does that count as in the crime statistics. 175 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 4: Attempted breakings usually involve damage to property. It's a standalone crime. 176 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 4: It's attempted unlall flentry, so it is counted as an 177 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 4: unlall flintry, as an attempted unlall flintry. So yeah, it certainly, 178 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 4: it certainly counts as a crime, and it counts towards 179 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 4: the overall number of property crimes. 180 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: So it is still included in those in those crime stats. Yeah, absolutely, 181 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: commander anything else we should be aware of when we 182 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: talk about those crime stats. But also in terms of 183 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: moving forward in some of those different areas that you're 184 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 2: planning on focusing on. 185 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 4: Look, I think you know, we have a challenging time 186 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 4: in terms of our community reassurance messaging, in terms of 187 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 4: what we're benchmarking against in six months time. It's going 188 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 4: to be difficult and challenging to meet the same positive 189 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 4: levels that we had twelve months ago. But the community 190 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 4: can help. I mean, the community are our eyes in ears, 191 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 4: you know. 192 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: It's yeah, well it's one of the things that we 193 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: sort of we hear a bit is people say, oh, 194 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: you know, look, we didn't report it because it was 195 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: a broken window, and we thought, oh, the police aren't 196 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: going to you know, they're so busy, they're not going 197 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 2: to be able to do anything. But do people need 198 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: to make sure that even if it's something that they 199 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 2: maybe feel isn't as significant, they still need to report 200 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: it to you guys. 201 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 4: Well, the thing about reporting to the police is that 202 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 4: we can then build up trends and issues and patterns 203 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 4: and identify hot spots, identify crime series, identify RECIDVIS defenders 204 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 4: and work out how we're going to stop it. So 205 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 4: you know, we do rely on the community. We rely 206 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 4: on the community reporting suspicious people and suspicious activities in 207 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 4: the community and at the end of the day, we 208 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 4: are here to serve and protect our. 209 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: Community absolutely well. 210 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: Northern Territory Police Commander for Darwin and Road Policing Matt 211 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: Hollanby always appreciate your time. 212 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 4: Thank you, always a pleasure, Katie